Current Events > Marcus Arbery (Ahmaud Arbery's father): "All Lives Matter"

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Dathrowed1
11/25/21 1:39:15 AM
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_BlueMonk
11/25/21 1:42:59 AM
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looks like he missed the point of black lives matter

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Kolibri X
11/25/21 2:12:51 AM
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Him saying this speaks a lot to his character and compassion for all people who lost a loved one too soon. He seems like a good man, a good father and I'm glad his family got the verdict they wanted and deserved.

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Naysaspace
11/25/21 2:14:36 AM
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see if the alt-right didn't co-opt this seemingly innocuous statement to become a dogwhistle for "white power", then this wouldn't even be an issue.

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_HayleyWilliams
11/25/21 2:18:54 AM
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Naysaspace posted...
see if the alt-right didn't co-opt this seemingly innocuous statement to become a dogwhistle for "white power", then this wouldn't even be an issue.
I never even understood it because, even if you disagreed with the BLM phrase, it is clear it is said because black people do not believe their lives matter to others. I don't get why alt-right chuds tried to make it a black supremacy movement when they could have just mocked another "liberal victim complex" or whatever.

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Crikey
11/25/21 2:20:18 AM
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I disagree.
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Tyranthraxus
11/25/21 2:23:34 AM
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There isn't a person on the planet that genuinely believes all lives matter. Maybe like literally Jesus but that's it.

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KStateKing17
11/25/21 2:23:45 AM
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_HayleyWilliams posted...
I never even understood it because, even if you disagreed with the BLM phrase, it is clear it is said because black people do not believe their lives matter to others. I don't get why alt-right chuds tried to make it a black supremacy movement when they could have just mocked another "liberal victim complex" or whatever.
Anyone who tries to argue that BLM suggests that only black people matter are doing it to act dumb at this point.

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Kolibri X
11/25/21 2:26:43 AM
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Oh boy. Here comes the evil/shitposting on this man's beautiful, uplifting words.

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Dathrowed1
11/25/21 9:44:25 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
There isn't a person on the planet that genuinely believes all lives matter. Maybe like literally Jesus but that's it.
That is the thing. I think he is a Christian

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BeyondWalls
11/25/21 9:46:32 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
There isn't a person on the planet that genuinely believes all lives matter. Maybe like literally Jesus but that's it.
Uh... what.

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lolife67
11/25/21 9:59:49 AM
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BeyondWalls posted...
Uh... what.
He's saying most people probably don't think rapists, pedophiles, mass murderers, etc lives really matter.
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Lyrica
11/25/21 10:01:00 AM
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How can all lives matter when what happened to his son is a clear example that black lives don't matter to some people.

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Sad_Face
11/25/21 10:20:30 AM
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_HayleyWilliams posted...
I never even understood it because, even if you disagreed with the BLM phrase, it is clear it is said because black people do not believe their lives matter to others. I don't get why alt-right chuds tried to make it a black supremacy movement when they could have just mocked another "liberal victim complex" or whatever.

Because it comes off as arrogant as though their lives matter more and makes the group more exclusive when it needs to be inclusive. A simple solution would be to slap on Too at the end for "Black Lives Matter Too". Quick and easy marketing solution. But that's too much effort and apparently it's not BLM's problem that a significant population, the one they're aiming to garner sympathy from, is interpreting the tagline differently and more negatively from its original intentions.


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lolife67
11/25/21 10:25:53 AM
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Sad_Face posted...
Because it comes off as arrogant as though their lives matter more and makes the group more exclusive when it needs to be inclusive. A simple solution would be to slap on Too at the end for "Black Lives Matter Too". Quick and easy marketing solution. But that's too much effort and apparently it's not BLM's problem that a significant population, the one they're aiming to garner sympathy from, is interpreting the tagline differently and more negatively from its original intentions.
This is all bs lol if this were the case then people wouldn't still try to discredit it even after it's been explained to them. Much like you're trying to do here.
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Umbreon
11/25/21 10:25:53 AM
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If you're more worried about the branding of BLM than the message... you probably never cared about the message.

At least you didn't say it made people sound 'uppity'?


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Sad_Face
11/25/21 10:40:10 AM
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lolife67 posted...
This is all bs lol if this were the case then people wouldn't still try to discredit it even after it's been explained to them. Much like you're trying to do here.

The fact that you have to explain them on what it actually means means that it's a communication failure. A good tagline communicates the message straight and to the point with no room for ambiguity or misinterpretation. We've been at this for almost 7 years now, the fact that people are still fighting over this is proof of what I'm talking about.

At least it's not as bad as "Defund the Police!" where people spouting that didn't actually mean they want to defund the police. Or maybe they did mean it. Or maybe they did but then rescinded the idea when they found defunding the police exacerbated the problems.

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lolife67
11/25/21 10:44:12 AM
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Sad_Face posted...
The fact that you have to explain them on what it actually means means that it's a communication failure.
No, it means they're being intentionally obtuse, especially at this point.
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thronedfire2
11/25/21 11:03:44 AM
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Sad_Face posted...
The fact that you have to explain them on what it actually means means that it's a communication failure. A good tagline communicates the message straight and to the point with no room for ambiguity or misinterpretation. We've been at this for almost 7 years now, the fact that people are still fighting over this is proof of what I'm talking about.

At least it's not as bad as "Defund the Police!" where people spouting that didn't actually mean they want to defund the police. Or maybe they did mean it. Or maybe they did but then rescinded the idea when they found defunding the police exacerbated the problems.


shut the fuck up

defund the police never meant abolish police completely, thats just what the right wingers ran with so they could be like omg you want to defund the police but youll still call them if you need to???

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11/25/21 11:07:23 AM
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VipaGTS
11/25/21 11:09:07 AM
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I dont think he meant it as a political statement. Yall are reading too much into that lol. His message was he wants to make the world better for all people. He wasnt trying to stand up against BLM.

also, people complaining that defund needed to be explained. That wasnt the problem. If they heard defund and got abolish out of it then they are either too stupid to comprehend or are being disingenuous on purpose.

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Unknown5uspect
11/25/21 11:11:26 AM
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Reminder that @Sad_Face is literally a pizzagater.

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Antifar
11/25/21 11:15:44 AM
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I was saying abolish the police

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Unknown5uspect
11/25/21 11:17:25 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Yeah this sure reads like someone who believes in Pizzagate
It's cute that he doesn't think people are intentionally misinterpreting BLM because they don't think black lives matter.

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IShall_Run_Amok
11/25/21 11:18:09 AM
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Antifar posted...
I was saying abolish the police


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_HayleyWilliams
11/25/21 11:19:08 AM
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Sad_Face posted...
Because it comes off as arrogant as though their lives matter more and makes the group more exclusive when it needs to be inclusive. A simple solution would be to slap on Too at the end for "Black Lives Matter Too". Quick and easy marketing solution. But that's too much effort and apparently it's not BLM's problem that a significant population, the one they're aiming to garner sympathy from, is interpreting the tagline differently and more negatively from its original intentions.
What kind of simple idiot needs the implied "too" tagged on there? Did they never hear anyone say something mattered before BLM?

If I say I want a pizza and you think I'm revealing a liberal pedophile ring, then that's a you problem. My message was clear.

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VipaGTS
11/25/21 11:23:09 AM
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_HayleyWilliams posted...
What kind of simple idiot needs the implied "too" tagged on there? Did they never hear anyone say something mattered before BLM?
yup. Theyre just racist or cop nut suckers who dont want to admit it. If all lives matter should they not be fighting for black lives lost by negligent and corrupt cops? Ive never seen all lives matter operated as a legitimate protest actually showing and caring about lost lives. Its 100% a racist counter protest to BLM. Sad thing is the users here who champion it know that but are too pussy to admit their real reason for supporting it.

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ledbowman
11/25/21 11:23:38 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
Oh boy. Here comes the evil/shitposting on this man's beautiful, uplifting words.
who could have foreseen this

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_HayleyWilliams
11/25/21 11:24:15 AM
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ledbowman posted...
who could have foreseen this
But enough about you guys

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_HayleyWilliams
11/25/21 11:25:18 AM
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VipaGTS posted...
yup. Theyre just racist or cop nut suckers who dont want to admit it. If all lives matter should they not be fighting for black lives lost by negligent and corrupt cops? Ive never seen all lives matter operated as a legitimate protest actually showing and caring about lost lives. Its 100% a racist counter protest to BLM. Sad thing is the users here who champion it know that but are too pussy to admit their real reason for supporting it.
I think you mean context matters "too" :P

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MutantJohn
11/25/21 11:28:21 AM
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Chad dad

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Lost_All_Senses
11/25/21 11:31:03 AM
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_BlueMonk posted...
looks like he missed the point of black lives matter

This. People try to use it as a GOTCHA if it goes over even one person's head in the black community.

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JimmyFraska
11/25/21 11:32:01 AM
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_BlueMonk posted...
looks like he missed the point of black lives matter
I think you missed what he's saying
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Sad_Face
11/25/21 11:34:34 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
defund the police never meant abolish police completely, thats just what the right wingers ran with so they could be like omg you want to defund the police but youll still call them if you need to???

Certain mayors heard defund the police and thought it was a bright idea to defund the police, as their vocal citizens demanded. So they slashed their city police budgets. Crime rates skyrocketed. Off my notes, this happened in Minneapolis.

And if you want to abolish the police, a system is going to replace it. Do you want your fellow neighbors to police the neighborhood? Because then you might run into another Zimmerman/Martin incident. A neighborhood watch can work but it requires a level of trust and unity among the neighborhood. We don't have kind of close knit culture nowadays. At least in my community (since I shouldn't speak for everyone), it's not possible to have a policeless territory with our culture. Too many broken homes to build a foundation off of.

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the0rebirth
11/25/21 11:34:55 AM
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_BlueMonk posted...
looks like he missed the point of black lives matter

Nah, hes just not speaking in terms of political slogans. Hes actually saying that all lives matter as a philosophical assertion.

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Lost_All_Senses
11/25/21 11:36:47 AM
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JimmyFraska posted...
I think you missed what he's saying

Do you think BLM stands for only killing innocent white people?

Show me the clip where they say "We won't rest until only innocent white people are being gunned down by cops!"

White people are to be protected the same. But white people aren't the ones historically abused on the level black people are. And co-opting BLM into Blue Lives Matter and All Lives Matter just shows that white people can't stand the idea of black people getting their problems spotlighted in the US. It has to be about white people like it always has since the U.S. was a thing. They'd rather turn it into a petty arguments that eat up time for progress rather than just let black people be spotlighted. And there's ill intentions behind that for a lot of people.

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ledbowman
11/25/21 11:42:46 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Do you think BLM stands for only killing innocent white people?

Show me the clip where they say "We won't rest until only innocent white people are being gunned down by cops!"

White people are to be protected the same. But white people aren't the ones historically abused on the level black people are. And co-opting BLM into Blue Lives Matter and All Lives Matter just shows that white people can't stand the idea of black people getting their problems spotlighted in the US. It has to be about white people like it always has since the U.S. was a thing. They'd rather turn it into a petty arguments that eat up time for progress rather than just let black people be spotlighted. And there's ill intentions behind that for a lot of people.
yet here yall are being petty and argumentative over a black voice that called for universal love

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Lost_All_Senses
11/25/21 11:47:07 AM
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ledbowman posted...
yet here yall are being petty and argumentative over a black voice that called for universal love

If the community gives into the ALM and Blue Lives Matter shit, there will be thr next road block ready. You must of completely ignored the history of this stuff.

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gatorsPENSbucs
11/25/21 11:49:05 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
If the community gives into the ALM and Blue Lives Matter shit, there will be thr next road block ready. You must of completely ignored the history of this stuff.
Why cant people just say hes right instead of diving into all these weird hidden meaning things. Not everyone has awful thoughts on their mind 24/7.


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Machete
11/25/21 11:52:06 AM
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Sad_Face posted...


Certain mayors heard defund the police and thought it was a bright idea to defund the police, as their vocal citizens demanded. So they slashed their city police budgets. Crime rates skyrocketed. Off my notes, this happened in Minneapolis.

And if you want to abolish the police, a system is going to replace it. Do you want your fellow neighbors to police the neighborhood? Because then you might run into another Zimmerman/Martin incident. A neighborhood watch can work but it requires a level of trust and unity among the neighborhood. We don't have kind of close knit culture nowadays. At least in my community (since I shouldn't speak for everyone), it's not possible to have a policeless territory with our culture. Too many broken homes to build a foundation off of.


Why do you believe in pizzagate?
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Lost_All_Senses
11/25/21 11:52:58 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why cant people just say hes right instead of diving into all these weird hidden meaning things. Not everyone has awful thoughts on their mind 24/7.

Honestly, this moment will breeze by either way. So in this instant, it is kind of a waste to talk about the bigger picture. I dunno why Im putting myself in this position to be annoyed lol. I was doing so good on avoiding these pointless conversations

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ButteryMales
11/25/21 11:53:50 AM
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Sad_Face posted...
So they slashed their city police budgets. Crime rates skyrocketed. Off my notes, this happened in Minneapolis.
I checked this multiple times. Usually they would set a budget for 2022 while COVID caused a crime streak and then people would absurdly blame the future budget.
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ledbowman
11/25/21 11:53:51 AM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
If the community gives into the ALM and Blue Lives Matter shit, there will be thr next road block ready. You must of completely ignored the history of this stuff.
dude he wasn't saying All Lives Matter tee hee, he was was just saying all lives matter because he was feeling hopeful. it's really simple but you're so far up your own ass you've lost the thread

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