Current Events > Joe Biden: Kamala Harris as VP was a mistake

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SK8T3R215 11/15/21 2:45:54 PM #1:	https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/14/politics/kamala-harris-frustrating-start-vice-president/index.html Snippets: Many in the vice president's circle fume that she's not being adequately prepared or positioned, and instead is being sidelined. The vice president herself has told several confidants she feels constrained in what she's able to do politically. And those around her remain wary of even hinting at future political ambitions, with Biden's team highly attuned to signs of disloyalty, particularly from the vice president. Few of the insiders who spoke with CNN think she's being well-prepared for whichever role it will be. Harris is struggling with a rocky relationship with some parts of the White House, while long-time supporters feel abandoned and see no coherent public sense of what she's done or been trying to do as vice president. Defenders and people who care for Harris are getting frantic. When they're annoyed, some pass around a recent Onion story mocking her lack of more substantive work, one with the headline, "White House Urges Kamala Harris To Sit At Computer All Day In Case Emails Come Through." When they're depressed, they bat down the Aaron Sorkin-style rumor that Biden might try to replace her by nominating her to a Supreme Court vacancy. That chatter has already reached top levels of the Biden orbit, according to one person who's heard it. She's perceived to be in such a weak position that top Democrats in and outside of Washington have begun to speculate privately, asking each other why the White House has allowed her to become so hobbled in the public consciousness, at least as they see it. But, with many sources speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the situation more frankly, they all tell roughly the same story: Harris' staff has repeatedly failed her and left her exposed, and family members have often had an informal say within her office. Even some who have been asked for advice lament Harris' overly cautious tendencies and staff problems, which have been a feature of every office she's held, from San Francisco district attorney to US Senate. As CNN has previously reported, Harris herself has said she didn't want to be assigned to manage the border, aware that it was a no-win political situation that would only sandbag her in the future. But Biden's team was annoyed that Harris fumbled answers about the border, including when she gave an awkward, laughing response about not visiting it during a spring interview with NBC's Lester Holt. Several Biden campaign aides spoke of putting "a blanket" around Harris after she was picked as the running mate last year, and advised against bringing on staff from her presidential campaign, though the final decisions around hires and structure were left at her discretion. That's left her with just a handful of current aides who knew her before she was vice president-elect, and they don't know her well. Feeding dissension internally, many suspect each other of putting their own career interests ahead of hers, or of performing to try to build their relationships with her on the fly. Damage control started quickly at least: https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1460070063025831936 --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:960025444] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/14/politics/kamala-harris-frustrating-start-vice-president/index.html Snippets: Many in the vice president's circle fume that she's not being adequately prepared or positioned, and instead is being sidelined. The vice president herself has told several confidants she feels constrained in what she's able to do politically. And those around her remain wary of even hinting at future political ambitions, with Biden's team highly attuned to signs of disloyalty, particularly from the vice president. Few of the insiders who spoke with CNN think she's being well-prepared for whichever role it will be. Harris is struggling with a rocky relationship with some parts of the White House, while long-time supporters feel abandoned and see no coherent public sense of what she's done or been trying to do as vice president. Defenders and people who care for Harris are getting frantic. When they're annoyed, some pass around a recent Onion story mocking her lack of more substantive work, one with the headline, "White House Urges Kamala Harris To Sit At Computer All Day In Case Emails Come Through." When they're depressed, they bat down the Aaron Sorkin-style rumor that Biden might try to replace her by nominating her to a Supreme Court vacancy. That chatter has already reached top levels of the Biden orbit, according to one person who's heard it. She's perceived to be in such a weak position that top Democrats in and outside of Washington have begun to speculate privately, asking each other why the White House has allowed her to become so hobbled in the public consciousness, at least as they see it. But, with many sources speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the situation more frankly, they all tell roughly the same story: Harris' staff has repeatedly failed her and left her exposed, and family members have often had an informal say within her office. Even some who have been asked for advice lament Harris' overly cautious tendencies and staff problems, which have been a feature of every office she's held, from San Francisco district attorney to US Senate. As CNN has previously reported, Harris herself has said she didn't want to be assigned to manage the border, aware that it was a no-win political situation that would only sandbag her in the future. But Biden's team was annoyed that Harris fumbled answers about the border, including when she gave an awkward, laughing response about not visiting it during a spring interview with NBC's Lester Holt. Several Biden campaign aides spoke of putting "a blanket" around Harris after she was picked as the running mate last year, and advised against bringing on staff from her presidential campaign, though the final decisions around hires and structure were left at her discretion. That's left her with just a handful of current aides who knew her before she was vice president-elect, and they don't know her well. Feeding dissension internally, many suspect each other of putting their own career interests ahead of hers, or of performing to try to build their relationships with her on the fly. Damage control started quickly at least: https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1460070063025831936 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheDyslexicGuy 11/15/21 2:46:40 PM #2:	Water is wet --- https://imgur.com/sbQ2q87 <cite>TheDyslexicGuy posted [p:960025469] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Water is wet </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 11/15/21 2:49:13 PM #3:	Wait, picking a vice president based entirely on race and gender was a bad idea?!?!?!??!?!?!?! --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://imgur.com/ZkQRDsR - https://imgur.com/2x2gtgP <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:960025539] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Wait, picking a vice president based entirely on race and gender was a bad idea?!?!?!??!?!?!?! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoundGarden 11/15/21 2:54:20 PM #4:	One of history's most forgettable VP's. --- "You go. I'm just going to stare at the lake and think about how I almost just killed a baby." <cite>PoundGarden posted [p:960025698] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>One of history's most forgettable VP's. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 11/15/21 2:55:18 PM #5:	kamala fucking sucks --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:960025736] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>kamala fucking sucks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 11/15/21 2:56:18 PM #6:	I mean, she basically rocketed up the ranks and many in the party establishment were eager to anoint her the next great thing, a sort of fusion of all the best qualities of Obama and Hillary Clinton. But it turns out that the establishment is terrible at cultivating people who aren't transparently rank careerists and Harris in particular has negative charisma and surrounded herself with ex-Clinton flunkies. She's now under the thumb of a dude with a troubled past in regards to women and black people who is also famous for valuing familiarity and loyalty over all else. The same dude she correctly skewered for opposing desegregation ~~which was a genuinely great line that she immediately sabotaged by saying she basically agreed with him lol.~~ --- I'm Queen of Tomorrow baby! She/her <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:960025775] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>I mean, she basically rocketed up the ranks and many in the party establishment were eager to anoint her the next great thing, a sort of fusion of all the best qualities of Obama and Hillary Clinton. But it turns out that the establishment is terrible at cultivating people who aren't transparently rank careerists and Harris in particular has negative charisma and surrounded herself with ex-Clinton flunkies. She's now under the thumb of a dude with a troubled past in regards to women and black people who is also famous for valuing familiarity and loyalty over all else. The same dude she correctly skewered for opposing desegregation which was a genuinely great line that she immediately sabotaged by saying she basically agreed with him lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 11/15/21 3:01:39 PM #9:	Literally the next to weakest candidate in the democratic debates and held no real affect to the election because the game came down to Trump. Vs. NOT Trump. Of course this was a bad decision 10x over to nominate her. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:960025966] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Literally the next to weakest candidate in the democratic debates and held no real affect to the election because the game came down to Trump. Vs. NOT Trump. Of course this was a bad decision 10x over to nominate her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E_S_M_Z 11/15/21 3:09:53 PM #10:	totalnerdken posted... 2 presidents in a row where the President and the VP have friction. Something that's nearly unheard of, happened twice in a row. That might be a sign of something. I don't think this is that rare, lol. The very first VP hated his job and was notably pissed at the president. (Just for fun, John Adams on George Washington: "That brat of a Scottish peddler! His ambition, his restlessness and all his grandiose schemes come, Im convinced, from a superabundance of secretions, which he couldnt find enough whores to absorb!") --- Join the club. Be part of the exclusive group called whoever, at: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1482- ()xxx[]:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::> <cite>E_S_M_Z posted [p:960026214] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>totalnerdken posted... </cite> <quote>2 presidents in a row where the President and the VP have friction. Something that's nearly unheard of, happened twice in a row. That might be a sign of something.</quote> I don't think this is that rare, lol. The very first VP hated his job and was notably pissed at the president. (Just for fun, John Adams on George Washington: "That brat of a Scottish peddler! His ambition, his restlessness and all his grandiose schemes come, Im convinced, from a superabundance of secretions, which he couldnt find enough whores to absorb!") </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheDyslexicGuy 11/15/21 3:10:47 PM #11:	Hard job to have when you have actual geniuses like Dick Cheney who have done it before --- https://imgur.com/sbQ2q87 <cite>TheDyslexicGuy posted [p:960026251] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Hard job to have when you have actual geniuses like Dick Cheney who have done it before </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 11/15/21 3:14:17 PM #12:	Lol what a dumpster fire this all is --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:960026382] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Lol what a dumpster fire this all is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xavier_On_High 11/15/21 3:14:43 PM #13:	Yeah, isn't this like par for the course? VP claims feeling restricted early on, that way they can deny responsibility for any of the president's fuck-ups when they run later. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif <cite>Xavier_On_High posted [p:960026398] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, isn't this like par for the course? VP claims feeling restricted early on, that way they can deny responsibility for any of the president's fuck-ups when they run later. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescente 11/15/21 3:15:07 PM #14:	I remember there were folks saying Kamala should become president if Joe ever croaks. Lmao <cite>Crescente posted [p:960026412] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>I remember there were folks saying Kamala should become president if Joe ever croaks. Lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 11/15/21 3:16:17 PM #15:	PoundGarden posted... One of history's most forgettable VP's. Lolno --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:960026448] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>PoundGarden posted... </cite> <quote>One of history's most forgettable VP's.</quote>Lolno </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 11/15/21 3:17:00 PM #16:	We're gonna lose in 2024 aren't we? --- Ryzen 3800x, 6900XT, 32 gig, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:960026466] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>We're gonna lose in 2024 aren't we? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 11/15/21 3:20:31 PM #17:	I think part of the problem is that KHive types and quite likely Vice President Harris herself expected and anticipated that she was going to be groomed to succeed Biden as soon as 2024, and she would have a policy portfolio and stuff to do. But there was never any reason to expect any of that and the Biden administration just plain doesnt do much anyway. Worse, Harris has managed to flub what few choreographed appearances she has made, which is on her and her staff. --- I'm Queen of Tomorrow baby! She/her <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:960026559] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>I think part of the problem is that KHive types and quite likely Vice President Harris herself expected and anticipated that she was going to be groomed to succeed Biden as soon as 2024, and she would have a policy portfolio and stuff to do. But there was never any reason to expect any of that and the Biden administration just plain doesnt do much anyway. Worse, Harris has managed to flub what few choreographed appearances she has made, which is on her and her staff. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 11/15/21 3:22:13 PM #18:	It was likely not just a bad decision, it'll have catastrophic effects on the party and for the country. As the former VP, she'll probably be annointed during the next Presidential primary despite being highly unpopular. Other, potentially better candidates will be scared to run against her. The only ones who will run will be crackpots with ambission trying to attack from the right or Squad adjacent people who will gain just enough support to divide the party and be caricatured by opponents. I'm pretty sure basically any Republican could beat Harris because she has no natural constituency beyond Democratic Party staffers. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:960026608] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>It was likely not just a bad decision, it'll have catastrophic effects on the party and for the country. As the former VP, she'll probably be annointed during the next Presidential primary despite being highly unpopular. Other, potentially better candidates will be scared to run against her. The only ones who will run will be crackpots with ambission trying to attack from the right or Squad adjacent people who will gain just enough support to divide the party and be caricatured by opponents. I'm pretty sure basically any Republican could beat Harris because she has no natural constituency beyond Democratic Party staffers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WeeWeiWiiWie 11/15/21 3:23:17 PM #19:	ElatedVenusaur posted... The same dude she correctly skewered for opposing desegregation which was a genuinely great line that she immediately sabotaged by saying she basically agreed with him lol. That's, uh, super disingenuous. --- Stabilized. COVxy alt. <cite>WeeWeiWiiWie posted [p:960026641] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted... </cite> <quote>The same dude she correctly skewered for opposing desegregation which was a genuinely great line that she immediately sabotaged by saying she basically agreed with him lol.</quote> That's, uh, super disingenuous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LNSS 11/15/21 3:24:11 PM #20:	Veep predicted this --- LNSS <cite>LNSS posted [p:960026671] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Veep predicted this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheDyslexicGuy 11/15/21 3:24:59 PM #21:	She just frankly isn't very smart and it's a shame people are only starting to realize it now. --- https://imgur.com/sbQ2q87 <cite>TheDyslexicGuy posted [p:960026690] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>She just frankly isn't very smart and it's a shame people are only starting to realize it now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 11/15/21 3:25:17 PM #22:	pogo_rabid posted... We're gonna lose in 2024 aren't we? most likely --- MSI MEG X570 Unify \| Ryzen 7 5800X \| 32GB DDR4-3600 \| RTX 3080 Samsung Odyssey G7 32" - 1440p, 240hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:960026699] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>We're gonna lose in 2024 aren't we?</quote>most likely </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Njolk 11/15/21 3:25:18 PM #23:	American politics is corrupt and inefficient More at 10 --- Suffering is expecting things to last forever <cite>Njolk posted [p:960026702] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>American politics is corrupt and inefficient More at 10 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 11/15/21 3:25:54 PM #24:	Should've been Warren or Klobs. Love em or hate em, they actually had to fight for their positions and have experience in government, unlike Harris. Apart from those two I struggle to think of another VP pick he could've made that would've worked out. Though it was a dumb idea to limit it to only women in the first place. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:960026715] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Should've been Warren or Klobs. Love em or hate em, they actually had to fight for their positions and have experience in government, unlike Harris. Apart from those two I struggle to think of another VP pick he could've made that would've worked out. Though it was a dumb idea to limit it to only women in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NatsuSama 11/15/21 3:28:12 PM #25:	Why does this topic seem like there's several alts here circle jerking each other. --- WAAAH, I CAN'T BEAT THIS GUY WITH HIS TACTICS, I'M GONNA CALL IT SPAM AND CONDEMN HIM FOR USING IT <cite>NatsuSama posted [p:960026788] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Why does this topic seem like there's several alts here circle jerking each other. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 11/15/21 3:31:06 PM #26:	NatsuSama posted... Why does this topic seem like there's several alts here circle jerking each other. Cuz it is --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:960026886] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>NatsuSama posted... </cite> <quote>Why does this topic seem like there's several alts here circle jerking each other.</quote>Cuz it is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 11/15/21 3:46:17 PM #27:	Where does it say Biden says he thinks she is a mistake? This is just trying to start shit. --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:960027306] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Where does it say Biden says he thinks she is a mistake? This is just trying to start shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JBaLLEN66 11/15/21 3:49:09 PM #28:	I really dont get the problem here --- The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild is the worst Zelda Game by far. <cite>JBaLLEN66 posted [p:960027397] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>I really dont get the problem here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 11/15/21 3:49:18 PM #29:	We have Republicans thinking Trump is some sort of messiah and the Democrat who's not going to run for reelection is saying that his choice of successor was a mistake? Is Biden trying to tank the DNC? <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:960027399] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>We have Republicans thinking Trump is some sort of messiah and the Democrat who's not going to run for reelection is saying that his choice of successor was a mistake? Is Biden trying to tank the DNC? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sariana21 11/15/21 3:51:42 PM #30:	Nothing I read implied that Biden has indicated it was a mistake. --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08); Pronouns: she/her/hers <cite>Sariana21 posted [p:960027473] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Nothing I read implied that Biden has indicated it was a mistake. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 11/15/21 3:54:42 PM #31:	FortuneCookie posted... tank the DNC? The DNC isn't shorthand for the Democratic Party. It's a very specific part of the party apparatus --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:960027557] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite> <quote>tank the DNC?</quote>The DNC isn't shorthand for the Democratic Party. It's a very specific part of the party apparatus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sackgurl 11/15/21 3:54:52 PM #32:	a vp that does nothing? why we've only had one like that 45 times before! --- LittleBigPlanet is like merging dress-up with a real game. <cite>Sackgurl posted [p:960027561] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>a vp that does nothing? why we've only had one like that 45 times before! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 11/15/21 5:37:57 PM #34:	Doom_Art posted... The DNC isn't shorthand for the Democratic Party. It's a very specific part of the party apparatus I'm sorry. That gaff still doesn't invalidate the sentiment that it's a stupid idea to say you regret choosing the person who is supposed to be the next president of the US. It's not like they're going to call up Bernie Sanders and AOC if they want to run in 2024. It's Harris or Trump. (And I'm hoping Harris.) <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:960030509] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>The DNC isn't shorthand for the Democratic Party. It's a very specific part of the party apparatus</quote> I'm sorry. That gaff still doesn't invalidate the sentiment that it's a stupid idea to say you regret choosing the person who is supposed to be the next president of the US. It's not like they're going to call up Bernie Sanders and AOC if they want to run in 2024. It's Harris or Trump. (And I'm hoping Harris.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 11/15/21 5:42:29 PM #35:	PoundGarden posted... One of history's most forgettable VP's. VPs are supposed to be forgettable. If theyre remembered as VP and not for something afterwards it means something went wrong. Al Gore is mostly remembered because of the recount election and his climate change stuff, but that was all after his term as VP. Cheney is only remembered for his war crimes (bad thing). Most others are forgotten. Hell I already forgot Mike Pence existed. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:960030632] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>PoundGarden posted... </cite> <quote>One of history's most forgettable VP's.</quote>VPs are supposed to be forgettable. If theyre remembered as VP and not for something afterwards it means something went wrong. Al Gore is mostly remembered because of the recount election and his climate change stuff, but that was all after his term as VP. Cheney is only remembered for his war crimes (bad thing). Most others are forgotten. Hell I already forgot Mike Pence existed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/15/21 5:43:58 PM #36:	literally who --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:960030682] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>literally who </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krojen 11/15/21 5:45:32 PM #37:	Billionaires already laughing as they plan their advertising to boomer primary voters that Kamala is the only one who can win. --- https://imgur.com/hI4hAMb <cite>Krojen posted [p:960030722] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Billionaires already laughing as they plan their advertising to boomer primary voters that Kamala is the only one who can win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Autocraticus 11/15/21 5:45:36 PM #38:	We did it, Joe! <cite>Autocraticus posted [p:960030724] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>We did it, Joe! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 11/15/21 5:48:40 PM #39:	She doesnt seem to be popular with the general public. The voter base would have elected a peanut butter and jelly sandwich if it was what it took to oust Trump, so she really came along at the most opportune time. The question is who will step up after Biden? Hes said that he doesnt want to run again (I think he would be like 92 at the end of eight years), but everyone acted like Harris would be next in like. If the general public doesnt like Harris, then who will win? We are at a point where we need strength and we cannot keep prioritizing the first over the best. --- So long, Thanks for all the fish! <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:960030817] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>She doesnt seem to be popular with the general public. The voter base would have elected a peanut butter and jelly sandwich if it was what it took to oust Trump, so she really came along at the most opportune time. The question is who will step up after Biden? Hes said that he doesnt want to run again (I think he would be like 92 at the end of eight years), but everyone acted like Harris would be next in like. If the general public doesnt like Harris, then who will win? We are at a point where we need strength and we cannot keep prioritizing the first over the best. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 11/15/21 5:49:52 PM #40:	Running Harris in 2024 would be the dumbest shit the dems could do. So you know they're gonna do it. --- https://imgur.com/x04tPRZ https://imgur.com/t7T392I <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:960030853] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Running Harris in 2024 would be the dumbest shit the dems could do. So you know they're gonna do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spiderman23JII 11/15/21 5:50:22 PM #41:	this whole administration was a mistake Trump 2024 --- buss on life <cite>Spiderman23JII posted [p:960030871] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>this whole administration was a mistake Trump 2024 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 11/15/21 5:51:14 PM #42:	Payzmaykr posted... She doesnt seem to be popular with the general public. The voter base would have elected a peanut butter and jelly sandwich if it was what it took to oust Trump, so she really came along at the most opportune time. The question is who will step up after Biden? Hes said that he doesnt want to run again (I think he would be like 92 at the end of eight years), but everyone acted like Harris would be next in like. If the general public doesnt like Harris, then who will win? We are at a point where we need strength and we cannot keep prioritizing the first over the best. AOC 2024 baby --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:960030905] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Payzmaykr posted... </cite> <quote>She doesnt seem to be popular with the general public. The voter base would have elected a peanut butter and jelly sandwich if it was what it took to oust Trump, so she really came along at the most opportune time. The question is who will step up after Biden? Hes said that he doesnt want to run again (I think he would be like 92 at the end of eight years), but everyone acted like Harris would be next in like. If the general public doesnt like Harris, then who will win? We are at a point where we need strength and we cannot keep prioritizing the first over the best.</quote> AOC 2024 baby </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 11/15/21 5:51:43 PM #43:	I don't see Biden quote of him saying that like your title suggests... <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:960030927] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>I don't see Biden quote of him saying that like your title suggests... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 11/15/21 5:53:56 PM #44:	WeeWeiWiiWie posted... That's, uh, super disingenuous. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/harris-clarifies-stance- on-federally-mandated-school-busing I'm sorry, did Vice President Harris not criticize President Biden for opposing federally-mandated busing to combat segregation, then not say she doesn't support federally-mandated busing and not produce some word salad about how it was necessary then but not now, essentially ruining her own point? FYI: https://www.epi.org/publication/schools-are-still-segregated -and-black-children-are-paying- a-price/ Segregation is practically as big a problem now as it was in the '60s and '70s! You'll have to fix the linebreaks because this website is garbage. --- I'm Queen of Tomorrow baby! She/her <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:960031000] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>WeeWeiWiiWie posted... </cite> <quote>That's, uh, super disingenuous.</quote>https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/harris-clarifies-stance- on-federally-mandated-school-busing I'm sorry, did Vice President Harris not criticize President Biden for opposing federally-mandated busing to combat segregation, then not say she doesn't support federally-mandated busing and not produce some word salad about how it was necessary then but not now, essentially ruining her own point? FYI: https://www.epi.org/publication/schools-are-still-segregated -and-black-children-are-paying- a-price/ Segregation is practically as big a problem now as it was in the '60s and '70s! You'll have to fix the linebreaks because this website is garbage. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KiwiTerraRizing 11/15/21 5:54:57 PM #45:	People dont like her --- Trucking Legend Don Schneider! <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:960031029] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>People dont like her </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sonixs 11/15/21 5:55:07 PM #46:	Topic title and article don't match. <cite>Sonixs posted [p:960031034] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>Topic title and article don't match. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WeeWeiWiiWie 11/15/21 5:55:08 PM #47:	ElatedVenusaur posted... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/harris-clarifies-stance- on-federally-mandated-school-busing I'm sorry, did Vice President Harris not criticize President Biden for opposing federally-mandated busing to combat segregation, then not say she doesn't support federally-mandated busing and not produce some word salad about how it was necessary then but not now, essentially ruining her own point? FYI: https://www.epi.org/publication/schools-are-still-segregated -and-black-children-are-paying- a-price/ Segregation is practically as big a problem now as it was in the '60s and '70s! You'll have to fix the linebreaks because this website is garbage. He opposed bussing because he supported community integration through low income housing (which is the better solution!). This is disingenuous. --- Stabilized. COVxy alt. <cite>WeeWeiWiiWie posted [p:960031035] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/harris-clarifies-stance- on-federally-mandated-school-busing I'm sorry, did Vice President Harris not criticize President Biden for opposing federally-mandated busing to combat segregation, then not say she doesn't support federally-mandated busing and not produce some word salad about how it was necessary then but not now, essentially ruining her own point? FYI: https://www.epi.org/publication/schools-are-still-segregated -and-black-children-are-paying- a-price/ Segregation is practically as big a problem now as it was in the '60s and '70s! You'll have to fix the linebreaks because this website is garbage.</quote> He opposed bussing because he supported community integration through low income housing (which is the better solution!). This is disingenuous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bleuets 11/15/21 5:56:57 PM #48:	pogo_rabid posted... We're gonna lose in 2024 aren't we? its looking that way for sure. <cite>Bleuets posted [p:960031087] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>We're gonna lose in 2024 aren't we?</quote> its looking that way for sure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Goldice 11/15/21 5:58:25 PM #49:	totalnerdken posted... 2 presidents in a row where the President and the VP have friction. Something that's nearly unheard of, happened twice in a row. That might be a sign of something. ....VPs and presidents used to have far more friction than they do today --- New England Patriots: Super Bowl XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLIX, LI, LIII Champions <cite>Goldice posted [p:960031137] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>totalnerdken posted...</cite> <quote>2 presidents in a row where the President and the VP have friction. Something that's nearly unheard of, happened twice in a row. That might be a sign of something. </quote> ....VPs and presidents used to have far more friction than they do today</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonGrackle 11/15/21 5:58:37 PM #50:	going with those hip black young women for VP, eh Joe? <cite>CommonGrackle posted [p:960031147] in Joe Biden:... [t:79761087]...</cite> <quote>going with those hip black young women for VP, eh Joe?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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