Current Events > Anyone else think that calling everything Japanese a "weeb" thing..

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DuranOfForcena posted...

the literal definition of it when you google it is "(in Japan) a young person who is obsessed with computers or particular aspects of popular culture to the detriment of their social skills."

that doesn't sound like the negative connotation is "basically gone" to me

I live in Japan. It's not used that way anymore.

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SerperiorThanU posted...

I mean, casual racism against Asians is socially accepted, with Asians being known for just taking it.

This isn't an example of "casual racism" when the term isn't even directed at Asians. Most of the time it's directed at white people who are obsessed with anything Japanese releated (especially anime/video games). Like I said, it's mostly done in jest especially when you see it in twitch chats. That's not to say there are people who use it in a derogatory light, and if they do it should be called out but those are far and few in my experience.

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DuranOfForcena posted...

Mist_Turnips posted...

I just generally associate people who throw the term around constantly with having low intelligence.

well the important thing is you have someone to feel superior to

Mist_Turnips posted...

There's always, you know, not mocking something you don't like and just scrolling past?

i will comment on what i want in whatever way i want and you can fucking scroll past it if you don't like reading it

You are extremely overweight and have a hilariously broken family, so I just find it funny when you try to look down on anything other than a broken scale lol.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

I just remember you mentioning being overweight in your venting topic. But go ahead and block me, its funny when people dish it but can't take it.

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DuranOfForcena posted...

it's called having preferences

By this logic, so would preferring Japanese media. So then why should they be shamed for it?
DuranOfForcena posted...

well the important thing is you have someone to feel superior to

That's the whole point of using "weeb".

Yeah people in the thread are literally proving the point in the OP lol. Especially Serperior's great point of casual racism against Asians being downplayed constantly and us just taking it.

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Mist_Turnips posted...

I just remember you mentioning being overweight in your venting topic. But go ahead and block me, its funny when people dish it but can't take it.

Imagine thinking weeb and attacking a person's family are the same thing. Weebs truly are detached from reality

DuranOfForcena posted...

i mean, i'd say the whole women who look like little girls flashing their panties and crying and making overexaggerated sex-sounding noises all the time thing is a pretty good reason for shaming

There are countless anime, let alone Japanese media that don't do those things. You generalizing them like this isn't helping your case. It's also not exclusive to Japanese media. Shall we talk about how the most popular cartoon in the US has an unrepentant rapist as a main character? Or one another most popular cartoon being about grade schoolers who are constantly involved in sexual situations? But that's just normal aka American wacky, not foreign wacky.

DuranOfForcena posted...

i don't default to thinking that weebs are of "lower intelligence" simply because they are weebs, i just think they are into some weird shit.

Bro, you literally just said you were fine with shaming people who prefer Japanese media above. I'd think implying they're freaks is the same level if not worse than saying someone is stupid for using derogatory terms.

Anyway, you actually admitted you intentionally avoid Asian media. Which is flat-out racist. Probably a Freudian slip since I doubt you intended to admit that.

Axiom posted...

Mist_Turnips posted...

I just remember you mentioning being overweight in your venting topic. But go ahead and block me, its funny when people dish it but can't take it.

Imagine thinking weeb and attacking a person's family are the same thing. Weebs truly are detached from reality

Huh, speaking of anime, I haven't watched anything in a long time. Been binging the switch lately.

Anyone got any recs? I like Jojo.
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One could also say the whole "objectifying women, sexualizing teens, glorifying crime, toxic masculinity and homophobia" that's common in rap and movies by black creators means people who enjoy them should be shamed for it. Or that they intentionally avoid it. Does that sound like a "preference" thing?

SerperiorThanU posted...

Calling any Japanese (and in many cases, any eastern) media that isn't distinctly western weeb, calling people weebs for having any amount of interest in those things, calling things that aren't Japanese weeb, and calling actual Japanese people weebs isn't directed at Asians or Japanese people? From what I've seen these usages of the word is MUCH more common than calling people who genuinely do put Asian/Japanese media on a pedestal

Unless they're calling an asian person a weeb, then yeah it's not directed at Asian/Japanese people. And I'm saying this as a Vietnamese American myself, I do face a lot of casual racism (especially when living in the south where I was born) but some of you guys are reaching at this being about racism. I can see it being a derogatory term, but I just can't see it as racism when its intention is not directed at asian people. Like do you believe people making jokes or just jesting about race means they're racist? Dave Chapelle does this shit all the time, do you think he's a racist? I'm just saying, this feels like one of those cases of people wanting to feel offended for the sake of it.

And it's weird trying to link "weeb" to the alt right when it is the alt right that glorifies Japan (JonTron is a good example of this) being a homogenous country that gives the middle finger to "sjw's" and "diversity" with its entertainment industry.


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Doesn't FFXIV have a loli race with race-customized bikinis? Sounds like weeb nonsense to me

People make fun of weebs because weebs are incredibly annoying and delusional. In this thread alone they're accusing everyone who makes fun of them of being racist and directing personal insults towards peoples' families.

Background_Guy posted...

People make fun of weebs because weebs are incredibly annoying and delusional. In this thread alone they're accusing everyone who makes fun of them of being racist and directing personal insults towards peoples' families.

02fran posted...

Why am I not surprised lmao

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02fran posted...

Background_Guy posted...

People make fun of weebs because weebs are incredibly annoying and delusional. In this thread alone they're accusing everyone who makes fun of them of being racist and directing personal insults towards peoples' families.

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Pfffft hahaha

If I were to summarize my thoughts.

Calling anything Japanese "weeb shit" or weeb in general: Racist

Calling someone who likes any anime or Japanese game in general a weeb: Stupid af and kinda cringe, but not racist

Calling a japanophile nerd who is obsessed with Japanese culture and wish they lived in Japan, but are not actually Japanese a weeb: Fair game
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I think it depends how you use it, and in recent years it has become used far more in a racist way.

Even now calling someone who fetishes Japanese culture/women without knowing a thing about it a weeb can be a bit iffy though I feel.
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Touch posted...

Why am I not surprised lmao

he's actually said worse. Said that Japanese people keep giving themselves white people eyes and hate their own eyes, said that comedy is dead in a topic about anti-asian jokes being criticized, said that Koreans are dog-eaters. Don't even think I can post those.

02fran posted...

Background_Guy posted...

People make fun of weebs because weebs are incredibly annoying and delusional. In this thread alone they're accusing everyone who makes fun of them of being racist and directing personal insults towards peoples' families.

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And he was never heard from again.
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SerperiorThanU posted...

So if someone refers to anything from Vietnamese culture or someone with an interest in Vietnamese culture as a derogatory term that's not directed at Vietnamese people?

That's a fair question, I guess my bias is that interest in Vietnam is nowhere near the level of that in Japan, so there's no term to describe an obession of Vietnamese culture over others like there is in Japanese culture. With that said, I still wouldn't feel it would be directed at Vietnamese people because the point is that it's primarily directed at the other individual, not the culture that is being "fetishzied".
SerperiorThanU posted...

I don't really want to get personal about it but you said you grew up in a southern state and you're also someone I see who likes to act as if western media is the default and eastern media that don't emulate it are alien.

You got the first part right, but the second part wrong (unless I said something which insinuated that, than I apologize).

SerperiorThanU posted...

I've also seen you say us east Asians are more privileged than you so you might see this as some sort of punching up even though the white people that create western media are obviously still on top.

Oh I know that, white people practical dominate hollywood representation by a mile. The East Asian privelege parts is only for very specific examples like SAT testings and Hollywood representation in general. I remember one of my friends (who is also Vietnamese) got a role for a tv show (back in 2014) to play as an one time character, who was a Vietnamese construction worker. He got a call days until the actual filming that his character would actually be a recurring character, but his ethnicity was changed to being Korean because it would be more "appealing". The way he explained wasn't a big deal for him (he was just happy to get a role), but it definately kind of seething for me that they even did that.

SerperiorThanU posted...

Yeah, alt right weebs are idiots that glorify a fantasy version of Japan. That's one of the purposes of mocking actual weebs. Those weebs, being alt right, are also hypocritical and insecure about their interest in something foreign so they're both very fond of using the word themselves and being racist against Asians themselves. However, there are also a massive amount of liberals and leftists who enjoy anime/eastern media which one look at resetera, tumblr, and tvtropes forums can tell you. Weebs are definitely used by both sides (since liberals do want to counter the alt right weebs plus there are a fair share of liberals who do not care about racism against Asians or are prejudiced against Asians themselves) but from what I've seen, the majority of people who genuinely thinks enjoying a foreign country's media or a media that doesn't feel domestic are things that should be negatively labeled are conservatives.
And from my personal experience, weeb is used far less often on left leaning places like resetera and tumblr than right leaning places like 4chan, Twitch/Youtube comments, and the console boards of this site.

And I will give it to you that terms like cuck, simp, and weeb do get used more from conservative leaning users online than left leaning individuals.... well in my experience at least. They're so over used that they did eventual lose their original meaning and it's primarily used just to make fun of others for things like not being man enough and stuff.

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I dont call Japanese things weeb I call Westerners really liking Japanese things weebs.

And its specifically in regards to them liking those Japanese cartoons or Japanese rpg cartoon games, cartoon books

Theres more to Japan, Japanese life, & Japanese things than that cartoon stuff but its pretty much what the weebs are obsessed with.

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02fran posted...

You literally scraped through my entire post history just because you were mad at getting called a weeb, lmao. That just proves my point about how sensitive weebs are.
Nothing I said was wrong btw

Turbam posted...

Gonna make a run to the weeb store so I can buy my weeb juice and weeb snacks

Weeby Doo would do anything for a weeb snack.

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I think its absolute dogshit to try to claim weeb shit represents the whole culture.

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Background_Guy posted...

You literally scraped through my entire post history just because you were mad at getting called a weeb, lmao. That just proves my point about how sensitive weebs are.
Nothing I said was wrong btw

lowkey being highkey of course.

02fran posted...

lowkey being highkey of course.

No seriously who the fuck are you? I've never seen you before in my life but you have all of my posts memorized and screenshotted. I don't even remember most of these, and I wrote them! Are you a stalker? Or is this a Tyler Durden thing?

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Weeby Doo would do anything for a weeb snack.

Pocky. It's called Pocky.

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Background_Guy posted...

No seriously who the fuck are you? I've never seen you before in my life but you have all of my posts memorized and screenshotted. I don't even remember most of these, and I wrote them! Are you a stalker? Or is this a Tyler Durden thing?

Crocodile tears over digging up previous posts after getting exposed for being a racist.
Right out of the white supremacist playbook.

02fran posted...

lowkey being highkey of course.

fucking lol
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So remember in this topic when people said so many of the people spamming weeb were alt right racists? I love it when they immediately validate those claims.
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Background_Guy posted...

No seriously who the fuck are you? I've never seen you before in my life but you have all of my posts memorized and screenshotted. I don't even remember most of these, and I wrote them! Are you a stalker? Or is this a Tyler Durden thing?

"Hey! Ignore the racist shit I said! Explain to me who you are random gamefaqs user!!!!"

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... man, how fucking dense is some of this board

i explicitly stated it right here:

cavalierking posted...

the point isn't about japanophiles (i.e. "weebs") and how annoying they are or how they're regarded or whatever

it's about how calling anything and everything japanese/asian "weeb" or "weeb shit" (or whatever other derivative) is racist

^ that is unequivocally problematic

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you don't call mexican food and mariachi bands "mexican shit"

you don't call basketball and rap "black shit"

you don't call the rainbow flag and pro-lgbt media "gay shit"

but you call japanese/asian cartoons, music, films, food, art, culture, etc. "weeb shit"?

and the people who have even the faintest of interests in any of the above "weebs"?

because apparently there's an inherent wrongness or contemptible quality to japanese/asian things?

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it's just fucking racist, straight up

and, again, as i mentioned in another earlier post of mine:

cavalierking posted...

shit's completely emblematic of how still very much accepted racism towards asians is

that something this obvious actually has to be explained to you guys - let alone you guys having the fucking nerve to even debate it - is just depressing and... gross

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@cavalierking I honestly have an inkling they just read the topic title, not the OP and rushed to type up their response lol

But you make good points. As Serperior stated, casual racism against Asians is rampant and you could just tell from this topic

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... actually, it occurred to me that there's a fundamental misunderstanding some of you guys are having:

some of you think that the term "weeb" (a noun here) refers to japanophiles or anime fanatics or whoever else alone and nothing more

meanwhile, those of us who are a little more privy and discerning have long noticed that the term has devolved into a catch-all pejorative for anything and everything japanese/asian (in this case, it's an adjective)

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the term hasn't referred to just the former in a long time

as i said, it's long since devolved into the catch-all latter

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so, when people call something like sushi "weeb shit", for example, they're not attacking japan/asia worshippers and their choice in cuisine

they're attacking a japanese food for no reason other than its being japanese

and that's just, well, racist, straight up

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you are literally outing yourself at this point if you still can't comprehend the gist after this post

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I'ma take a moment and shamelessly simp for Perry Bible Fellowship, one of the greatest comics of the century and the source of the weeaboo thing.



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IShall_Run_Amok posted...

I'ma take a moment and shamelessly simp for Perry Bible Fellowship, one of the greatest comics of the century and the source of the weeaboo thing.

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I never understood this comic. Why does he say weeaboo and why do they react to it if this is the comic that started it? :X
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02fran posted...

Crocodile tears over digging up previous posts after getting exposed for being a racist.
Right out of the white supremacist playbook.

I'm serious, this is creepy. You have an obsessive catalog of everything I've posted on a dying video game message board. Did I do something to you that made you want revenge? Did I make fun of you for being a weeb two years ago and you've been preparing your epic clap-back ever since? Are you trying to be my nemesis or something? I'm both confused and concerned.

Background_Guy posted...

I'm serious, this is creepy. You have an obsessive catalog of everything I've posted on a dying video game message board. Did I do something to you that made you want revenge? Are you trying to be my nemesis or something? I'm both confused and concerned.

There's a log site, it takes two minutes to find a post.

Calm down, sparky.

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DrizztLink posted...

There's a log site, it takes two minutes to find a post.

Calm down, sparky.

He had like five posts prepared only a few minutes after I posted my first response. I've made like hundreds or thousands of posts. He's been prepared, dude.

Ok.

Does that particularly change the content of the posts in question?

Like, his creep factor is irrelevant to your own reputation.

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DrizztLink posted...

Ok.

Does that particularly change the content of the posts in question?

Like, his creep factor is irrelevant to your own reputation.

1. All of my posts are right, if people want to get mad, they're free to, but that doesn't change reality.
2. Neither my posts nor his stalking me are the subject of this thread. But I'm concerned about the latter, just on a personal level.

sounds like a topic that a weeb would make tbh

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