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SpiritSephiroth
11/05/21 8:11:07 AM
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Under a negative light has a underlying racist tone? This is especially rampant on platforms like twitch. Hell whenever a Japanese person like Yoshida in the recent FFXIV interviews came on screen, a lot of users were just posting "Weeb" and anime emotes constantly. Its freaking cringe and kind of demeaning.

Maybe I'm overblowing this but I see it on twitter as well. Sometimes Kpop stans do this to anything towards Japanese too.

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AirFresh
11/05/21 8:12:19 AM
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It's honestly mostly used as a joke today for most. The ones who do it unironically are being shitty though, I agree.

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spikethedevil
11/05/21 8:12:40 AM
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People who use weeb as an insult usually have no idea what it actually means, same goes for cuck.

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Turbam
11/05/21 8:12:59 AM
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Gonna make a run to the weeb store so I can buy my weeb juice and weeb snacks

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cavalierking
11/05/21 8:32:29 AM
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it's undeniably racist, yeah

anybody who uses it is directly saying that things are worthy of contempt by sole virtue of their being japanese (or hell, even just asian, since who gives a fuck - they're all the same thing, am i right??)

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shit's completely emblematic of how still very much accepted racism towards asians is

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Spidey5
11/05/21 8:36:49 AM
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I honestly see it the most on this board coming from the faaaaaaar right wingers. Do with that what you will.
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LightHawKnight
11/05/21 8:41:51 AM
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cavalierking posted...
it's undeniably racist, yeah

anybody who uses it is directly saying that things are worthy of contempt by sole virtue of their being japanese (or hell, even just asian, since who gives a fuck - they're all the same thing, am i right??)

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shit's completely emblematic of how still very much accepted racism towards asians is

Didnt it used to mean white people who were way too obsessed with anime? Now it just used for anything japanese or asian related.

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TetsuoS2
11/05/21 8:43:10 AM
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It's originally used for people who are over obsessed with Japanese culture in general, just not anime.

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spikethedevil
11/05/21 9:51:56 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Didnt it used to mean white people who were way too obsessed with anime? Now it just used for anything japanese or asian related.

None Japanese people so obsessed with Japan they basically pretend to be Japanese.

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DeadBankerDream
11/05/21 9:53:07 AM
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You can't complain about the term 'weeb' when your username is SpiritSephiroth.

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Squall28
11/05/21 9:54:28 AM
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Yes it is. Liking Asian culture shouldn't be seen as a negative.

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spikethedevil
11/05/21 9:54:34 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
You can't complain about the term 'weeb' when your username is SpiritSephiroth.

Liking a character from a game isnt a ween thing ffs.

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SpiritSephiroth
11/05/21 10:01:48 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
You can't complain about the term 'weeb' when your username is SpiritSephiroth.

I like asian culture in general. Hell my girlfriend is Japanese and I'm learning Japanese. If that's seen as a negative thing then whatever.

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smoke_break
11/05/21 10:19:46 AM
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Squall28 posted...
Yes it is. Liking Asian culture shouldn't be seen as a negative.
This.

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DeadBankerDream
11/05/21 10:25:20 AM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
I like asian culture in general. Hell my girlfriend is Japanese and I'm learning Japanese. If that's seen as a negative thing then whatever.
It's not negative. It's just hilarious that you're raging out about the term 'weeb' and your username is SpiritSephiroth.

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Biscotti
11/05/21 10:28:05 AM
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no.

i can appreciate the history and cuture of japan without loving weebs; weebs aren't well regarded in japan either.

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SpiritSephiroth
11/05/21 10:35:09 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
It's not negative. It's just hilarious that you're raging out about the term 'weeb' and your username is SpiritSephiroth.

I get you lol. I made this name a long time ago. I wouldn't have chosen such a brazen name nowadays.

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Mist_Turnips
11/05/21 10:37:37 AM
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Oh I have no doubt that geeks who cry weeb left and right are close minded and racist.

It tends to be a stupid American thing, predominantly.
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cavalierking
11/05/21 10:41:13 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
It's not negative. It's just hilarious that you're raging out about the term 'weeb' and your username is SpiritSephiroth.

... bro, who gives a fuck

i agree with tc's point (as should everybody who isn't racist)

you gonna make some pedantic, dipshit take on my username too?

Biscotti posted...
no.

i can appreciate the history and cuture of japan without loving weebs; weebs aren't well regarded in japan either.

the point isn't about japanophiles (i.e. "weebs") and how annoying they are or how they're regarded or whatever

it's about how calling anything and everything japanese/asian "weeb" or "weeb shit" (or whatever other derivative) is racist

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smoke_break
11/05/21 10:41:48 AM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
I get you lol. I made this name a long time ago. I wouldn't have chosen such a brazen name nowadays.
There's nothing wrong with making a username about a character that you like. Don't let him shame you! This is exactly what the topic is about, lol.

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DeadBankerDream
11/05/21 10:42:49 AM
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cavalierking posted...
you gonna make some pedantic, dipshit take on my username too?
Why would I? Weird question.

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SpiritSephiroth
11/05/21 10:56:19 AM
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Biscotti posted...
no.

i can appreciate the history and cuture of japan without loving weebs; weebs aren't well regarded in japan either.

I think you're missing the point of the topic.

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SpiritSephiroth
11/05/21 10:57:10 AM
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smoke_break posted...
There's nothing wrong with making a username about a character that you like. Don't let him shame you! This is exactly what the topic is about, lol.

Yeah I know. But people always make assumptions about this username mostly because they think I'm solely an FF7 fanboy. Its gets annoying when I'm in debates about videogames.

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Biscotti
11/05/21 11:00:53 AM
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cavalierking posted...


it's about how calling anything and everything japanese/asian "weeb" or "weeb shit" (or whatever other derivative) is racist

weebs aren't a race, they are a meme that originated on the internet.

might as well say all the hardcore weebs on the ps4 board with 'based japan' and 'anime tiddy' threads are racist to the west.

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Waifu-man
11/05/21 11:03:42 AM
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So does calling everything female related "simp"...
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02fran
11/05/21 11:08:46 AM
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Mist_Turnips posted...
Oh I have no doubt that geeks who cry weeb left and right are close minded and racist.

It tends to be a stupid American thing, predominantly.
Now that Korean movies and music are becoming more popular and mainstream in the west I'm seeing a lot of same kind of sentiment directed towards them too. I feel like a certain "type" of westerner feel threatened when foreign media gets recognized, especially if they're not white.

Biscotti posted...
weebs aren't a race, they are a meme that originated on the internet.

might as well say all the hardcore weebs on the ps4 board with 'based japan' and 'anime tiddy' threads are racist to the west.

That's the point. Japanese/Asian is an ethnicity/race. When you equate any media that's associated with Japan/Asia with a derogatory term that's racist. Maybe this'll put it better. Ghetto isn't a race. But if you call any media created by a black person ghetto, call Obama ghetto, call people interested in black history ghetto, call people who are attracted to black people ghetto, that's racist.
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Nemu
11/05/21 11:16:10 AM
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Sees like a massive overreach regarding some probably fringe racist usages of the word.
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Biscotti
11/05/21 11:18:50 AM
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02fran posted...
That's the point. Japanese/Asian is an ethnicity/race. When you equate any media that's associated with Japan/Asia with a derogatory term that's racist. Maybe this'll put it better. Ghetto isn't a race. But if you call any media created by a black person ghetto, call Obama ghetto, call people interested in black history ghetto, call people who are attracted to black people ghetto, that's racist.

i get that, but weebs, otaku, hikkimori or what have you, are seen poorly in japan itself. ppl may overuse the term weebs but imho it's not a racist term.


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02fran
11/05/21 11:21:46 AM
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Biscotti posted...
i get that, but weebs, otaku, hikkimori or what have you, are seen poorly in japan itself. ppl may overuse the term weebs but imho it's not a racist term.

It's not automatically a racist term but it's often used as one.
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Prestoff
11/05/21 11:36:21 AM
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Some of you guys are reaching with this. This isnt the first time a word on the internet was used incorrectly, most of the time it is used in jest with no ill intention. Some examples are words like cuck (which is now to demean a man's masculinity) and simp (to make fun of anyone who spends money on e-girls related). Ive seen that word used on twitch streams and i usually see the streamer just laughing and joking about it. If they were against it they would probably moderate it or instruct their moderators to time out/ban users who say it.

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02fran
11/05/21 11:40:18 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
it's not racist lol. if someone likes some Japanese cartoons or media or whatever that has cringey fanservicey shit with women who look like little girls who are constantly flashing their panties and crying and making weird overexaggerated noises, that's weeb shit, and that someone is a weeb. if it's something i'd be embarrassed to be watching in front of my niece or my grandma, i'm gonna call it out for being weird weeb shit.

The term for that is ecchi and people who consume that, otaku. But it's easier to use a term that generalizes all Japanese stuff.
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SpiritSephiroth
11/05/21 11:46:50 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
it's not racist lol. if someone likes some Japanese cartoons or media or whatever that has cringey fanservicey shit with women who look like little girls who are constantly flashing their panties and crying and making weird overexaggerated noises, that's weeb shit, and that someone is a weeb. if it's something i'd be embarrassed to be watching in front of my niece or my grandma, i'm gonna call it out for being weird weeb shit.

Okay but that wasn't the point of this topic. I'm talking about people calling everything Japanese "weeb". Not just the niche fan service stuff.

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CobraGT
11/05/21 11:51:43 AM
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02fran
11/05/21 11:56:15 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
those terms aren't as funny sounding or as widely recognized as weeb

Weeb is a hardcore geek term anyway. This is how I imagine the kind of people who use it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyZoLHyFHy8
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SpiritSephiroth
11/05/21 12:08:37 PM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
In any case, the fact that I had to say something isn't weeb because it could be made in the west shows it encourages the idea that eastern media are alien and negative. There is an underlying casually xenophobic tone to it.

This is how I feel. Even people i know in real life actively avoid eastern media. I remember one of my friends loving Demon Souls and Dark souls. I told him it was made by Japanese developers. He was like, "wow it's not weeb shit" or some thing along those lines. It's really casual how people regard anything Japanese or asian as "weeb shit" sometimes.

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Biscotti
11/05/21 12:20:07 PM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
the fact that I had to say something isn't weeb because it could be made in the west shows it encourages the idea that eastern media are alien and negative.

the reverse - great nippon beats awful west - is an incredibly common thread on some boards.


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ssjevot
11/05/21 12:21:25 PM
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Biscotti posted...
i get that, but weebs, otaku, hikkimori or what have you, are seen poorly in japan itself. ppl may overuse the term weebs but imho it's not a racist term.

The majority of Japanese under the age of 30 identify as otaku. I don't know what a weeb is exactly, but hikikomori are not the same thing. Otaku also isn't just anime or whatever. Like most young women identify as otaku, but they're likely idol or seiyu otaku. Similarly you have train otaku, airsoft otaku, etc. Otaku basically means a person who is really into their hobbies these days. The negative connotation is basically gone.

https://soranews24.com/2018/07/17/nearly-70-percent-of-young-japanese-women-self-identify-as-otaku-in-survey/

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Mist_Turnips
11/05/21 12:22:27 PM
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02fran posted...
Mist_Turnips posted...
Oh I have no doubt that geeks who cry weeb left and right are close minded and racist.

It tends to be a stupid American thing, predominantly.
Now that Korean movies and music are becoming more popular and mainstream in the west I'm seeing a lot of same kind of sentiment directed towards them too. I feel like a certain "type" of westerner feel threatened when foreign media gets recognized, especially if they're not white.

I just generally associate people who throw the term around constantly with having low intelligence.

DuranOfForcena posted...
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it's called having preferences

i also intentionally avoid capeshit and am more inclined to mocking it

does that make me racist to Americans, because Americans make capeshit?

There's always, you know, not mocking something you don't like and just scrolling past?
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