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pinky0926
10/31/21 4:17:50 PM
#101:


Umbreon posted...
Seems pretty effective, considering the people talking about it. You don't have to like protests.

What we're all talking about here is whether you should trash someone's wedding or not, so I don't know if that's the effective political protest it was intended to be

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pinky0926
10/31/21 4:18:16 PM
#102:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Yeah, people tried that. Didn't work.

How didn't it work and how does this work in a way that those things don't work

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Teh_Dr_Phil
10/31/21 4:18:32 PM
#103:


who posted

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Raikuro
10/31/21 4:19:17 PM
#104:


Sinema herself disrupted the wedding by accepting the invitation and going to a wedding while being a rightfully controversial public figure. Any other take is playing into exactly what Sinema (and the people paying her) intended with this stunt.

If protesters allow any opening for a "wrong" time to protest, the person completely deserving protest will conveniently find themselves in that position 24/7.
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Umbreon
10/31/21 4:22:27 PM
#105:


pinky0926 posted...
What we're all talking about here is whether you should trash someone's wedding or not, so I don't know if that's the effective political protest it was intended to be

Sinema's presence trashed the wedding. If she wasn't there, neither would the protestors. It's a shame the wedding got disrupted because of her. Hopefully, in the future, people avoid inviting Sinema to events to prevent such occurrences.

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RchHomieQuanChi
10/31/21 4:23:40 PM
#106:


pinky0926 posted...
How didn't it work and how does this work in a way that those things don't work

Because she's still taking money from her corporate donors, while obstructing any legislation that would help the constituents that voted her into power.

The only power the people have under our broken ass system is to apply the pressure on her in her personal life. Them's the breaks. This certainly got more of a reaction out of her than simply trying to talk to her.

These are people's livelihoods we're talking about, so forgive me if I don't care about some rich person's wedding being inconvenienced.

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Autocraticus
10/31/21 4:24:09 PM
#107:


When they go low, go even lower.
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Background_Guy
10/31/21 4:25:10 PM
#108:


lol fuck her
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pinky0926
10/31/21 4:26:24 PM
#109:


She won't break from this at all. $10 this is the new right wing talking point about "mentally deranged liberals" and will make part of her rhetorical platform.

It has a nice simple ring to it that a lot of people can get onboard. "liberals are so insane that they'll ruin the wedding of someone who has nothing to do with this just to spite you".

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Background_Guy
10/31/21 4:26:45 PM
#110:


Why the fuck were people wearing Native American costumes at a wedding?
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RchHomieQuanChi
10/31/21 4:27:53 PM
#111:


pinky0926 posted...
She won't break from this at all. $10 this is the new right wing talking point about "mentally deranged liberals" and will make part of her rhetorical platform.

It has a nice simple ring to it that a lot of people can get onboard. "liberals are so insane that they'll ruin the wedding of someone who has nothing to do with this just to spite you".

Lol right-wingers are saying this shit regardless. Who gives a fuck about their talking points anymore?

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kingdrake2
10/31/21 4:30:27 PM
#112:


metralo posted...
Good. Her and Manchin are basically handing the US off to fascism.

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divot1338
10/31/21 4:31:25 PM
#113:


So Sinema was upset that she didnt get to ruin it herself?

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AmericaTheBrave
10/31/21 4:32:21 PM
#114:


Why are liberals so unaware of how bad they look when they do things like this?

This is why they lose.

They care more about feeling "righteous" than the optics of their behavior.

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pinky0926
10/31/21 4:33:59 PM
#115:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Lol right-wingers are saying this shit regardless. Who gives a fuck about their talking points anymore?

How about, "who gives a fuck about someone's wedding, whoever they are", because that's exactly how this reads.

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RchHomieQuanChi
10/31/21 4:34:48 PM
#116:


AmericaTheBrave posted...
Why are liberals so unaware of how bad they look when they do things like this?

This is why they lose.

They care more about feeling "righteous" than the optics of their behavior.

Yes, that's why Republicans win. Because the optics of their behavior look fucking magnificent in comparison to liberals.




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Umbreon
10/31/21 4:35:57 PM
#117:


Remember when Biden won the election and conservatives calmly accepted their loss and didn't commit a literal act of terrorism on January
6th?

But tell me more about optics.


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RchHomieQuanChi
10/31/21 4:36:00 PM
#118:


pinky0926 posted...
How about, "who gives a fuck about someone's wedding, whoever they are", because that's exactly how this reads.

A millionaire's wedding or people's access to basic healthcare, voting rights, livable wages, etc.,

Hmm

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pinky0926
10/31/21 4:37:08 PM
#119:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
A millionaire's wedding or people's access to basic healthcare, voting rights, livable wages, etc.,

Hmm

And if this action had actually helped with that goal I'd be agreeing with you

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au_gold
10/31/21 4:37:22 PM
#120:


Wont somebody think of the millionaires?

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Maze_
10/31/21 4:39:18 PM
#121:


Umbreon posted...
Remember when Biden won the election and conservatives calmly accepted their loss and didn't commit a literal act of terrorism on January
6th?

But tell me more about optics.
Even worse than that

They commited literal terrorism, then Republicans officially refused to condemn it and let Trump get away with it using the logic of "Well since Trump's presidency is about to end, who cares if he promote terrorism and tries to over turn democracy!" cementing a January exception precedent for all crimes for Republican presidents from now on.

IT's remarkably evil and no one seems to be bothered by it

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CyricZ
10/31/21 4:41:58 PM
#122:


pinky0926 posted...
How didn't it work and how does this work in a way that those things don't work
Pinky, not to get in your grill but are you aware about Senator Sinema?

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pinky0926
10/31/21 4:43:32 PM
#123:


CyricZ posted...
Pinky, not to get in your grill but are you aware about Senator Sinema?

She's that "dem" that basically blocks every attempt by dems to actually improve the country even a little bit, right

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RchHomieQuanChi
10/31/21 4:45:22 PM
#124:


pinky0926 posted...
And if this action had actually helped with that goal I'd be agreeing with you

Idk, seeing her drop the smug, untouchable attitude was definitely a start

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Gwynevere
10/31/21 4:50:37 PM
#125:


pinky0926 posted...
She won't break from this at all. $10 this is the new right wing talking point about "mentally deranged liberals" and will make part of her rhetorical platform.

It has a nice simple ring to it that a lot of people can get onboard. "liberals are so insane that they'll ruin the wedding of someone who has nothing to do with this just to spite you".
I think we're well past the point of doing things dependent on how the right is going to spin it in the media.

You can have a stance as lukewarm as "hey maybe we should try to be more accepting of trans people in society" and right wingers will spin it as "deranged LIBERALS seek to destroy the traditional family and force you to marry trans people!"

If we held off on taking any action that might be twisted by ring wing media, we might as well grab shovels and dig our own graves.

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CyricZ
10/31/21 4:51:31 PM
#126:


pinky0926 posted...
She's that "dem" that basically blocks every attempt by dems to actually improve the country even a little bit, right
That's the tip of it, yes.

Running on promises, backing down on them, lining her pockets in donations from lobbyists, and doing so brazenly and out in the open.

Anyone who attempts to approach her on this is ignored, repelled, or evaded. She refuses to meet with her own constituents who elected her.

She basically embodies everything working-class America hates about politicians, regardless of sides.

Even most of the worst of them will take the time to meet with constituents, even if they're carefully selected glad-handers. Sinema is basically giving away the game in a way that few politicians have done in this country.

Like you'd have a point if she even tried to make an effort to be a representative for her state. She does not.

If she's allowed to get away with this, then the next wave of politicians will get away with the same or worse.

This is the only weapon the people have. You work for the people, you answer to them. If you pull the shit she pulls to the extreme degree she pulls it, you're going to see protests increase in degree as well.

She's not doing her job. She doesn't get a moment of peace until she's out of office. She has not earned it.

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pinky0926
10/31/21 4:51:55 PM
#127:


Gwynevere posted...
I think we're well past the point of doing things dependent on how the right is going to spin it in the media.

You can have a stance as lukewarm as "hey maybe we should try to be more accepting of trans people in society" and right wingers will spin it as "deranged LIBERALS seek to destroy the traditional family and force you to marry trans people!"

If we held off on taking any action that might be twisted by ring wing media, we might as well grab shovels and dig our own graves.

Well, there is that. And hey maybe (likely) the people having the wedding are trash. The concept doesn't sit well with me, is all.

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Raikuro
10/31/21 4:58:02 PM
#128:


The concept is "woman stirs shit, smears it all over wedding", instead of "shit magically appears at wedding, innocent woman appalled". Doesn't matter if dumdums insist the second scenario is what happened.
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RchHomieQuanChi
10/31/21 5:09:47 PM
#129:


Raikuro posted...
The concept is "woman stirs shit, smears it all over wedding", instead of "shit magically appears at wedding, innocent woman appalled". Doesn't matter if dumdums insist the second scenario is what happened.

Exactly. She openly shits on her constituents and carries that baggage with her to private events.

It's on her.

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ultimate reaver
10/31/21 5:16:08 PM
#130:


thats pretty funny

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legendary_zell
10/31/21 5:25:34 PM
#131:


Our politics would be a lot better if this is what politicians could expect for fucking around.

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marthsheretoo
10/31/21 5:31:14 PM
#132:


If a politician doesn't provide time for constituents to meet with them, the constituents will make their own time - and it may not be near as convenient as the politician wants it to be.

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Vampire_Wreath
10/31/21 5:46:45 PM
#133:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
A millionaire's wedding or people's access to basic healthcare, voting rights, livable wages, etc.,

Hmm

YA SEE DISRUPTING THIS WEDDING CANCELS THAT ONE OUT OK!

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DrizztLink
10/31/21 5:53:47 PM
#134:


CyricZ posted...
Worse.

The "centrists".
Same thing, just disingenuous.

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Solid Snake07
10/31/21 7:03:04 PM
#135:


Godnorgosh posted...
Solid Snake07 if the shoe were on the other foot:

https://youtu.be/b5ziRrDBUwk


I pretty consistently call terrible people out for being terrible people regardless of their politics. Most of the terrible people here just tend to be left wing since most people here are left wing.

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au_gold
10/31/21 7:03:57 PM
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Yazarogi
10/31/21 8:41:23 PM
#137:


Solid Snake07 posted...
I pretty consistently call terrible people out for being terrible people regardless of their politics. Most of the terrible people here just tend to be left wing since most people here are left wing.

quit lying, we've all seen your posts.

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MrMallard
10/31/21 8:48:53 PM
#138:


The point of protest is to be disruptive, to make your voice heard.

She's a professor at a university - she hides from her students when they ask her why she's going against every progressive policy she has a say in.

She gleefully shoots down proposals opposed by the Republicans, with a wink and a smile.

I feel bad for the married couple, but the right of the American people to petition the government for a redress of grievances is a vital aspect of freedom, and this act of protest came to be because Sinema refuses to engage with her constituents who are rightfully fucked off that she's gone against her entire platform.

She could have spoken to her actions as senator multiple times in the past, when people were less angry than they are now. This extreme measure has come about because she refuses to engage with the constituency who she has blatantly and objectively betrayed with her actions.

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DandyQuackShot
10/31/21 8:57:04 PM
#139:


Reminds me of those crazy church people who crashed military funerals for the shock value so that their message would be blasted around the world.

Were still in Iraq...

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thronedfire2
10/31/21 9:02:01 PM
#140:


Solid Snake07 posted...
I pretty consistently call terrible people out for being terrible people regardless of their politics. Most of the terrible people here just tend to be left wing since most people here are left wing.

but most of the right wing people are terrible

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mybbqrules
10/31/21 9:18:19 PM
#141:


Solid Snake07 posted...
Ruining the wedding of people who have nothing to do with this because you don't like the politics of one of their guests is a pretty bad look you fucking sociopaths
01/06: *happens*

Chuds: "Eh, water under the bridge, let's move on!"

Protestors outside of a wedding Sinema is attending: *exist*

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Intro2Logic
10/31/21 9:19:31 PM
#142:


marthsheretoo posted...
If a politician doesn't provide time for constituents to meet with them, the constituents will make their own time - and it may not be near as convenient as the politician wants it to be.
This is the only thing that needs to be said about the haranguing of Sinema.

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ZannoL
10/31/21 9:19:37 PM
#143:


That woman is pure trash.
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bladegash
10/31/21 9:29:32 PM
#144:


..... she officiated a wedding?

wtf does that mean?

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LightHawKnight
10/31/21 9:35:17 PM
#145:


Lets get to the point where none of her "friends" want to associate with her and see if she actually listens to her constituents.

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