Poll of the Day > Yeesh... don't get your lawn care done in Texas

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Lokarin 10/29/21 8:57:20 AM #1:	https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/city-s-attempt-cut-texas-man-s-grass-leads-standoff-n1282623?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma > An attempt by Austin, Texas, officials to serve a search warrant and provide lawn care resulted in shots fired, an hourslong standoff, a house fire and a death, police said Wednesday. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:959498532] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/city-s-attempt-cut-texas-man-s-grass-leads-standoff-n1282623?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma > An attempt by Austin, Texas, officials to serve a search warrant and provide lawn care resulted in shots fired, an hourslong standoff, a house fire and a death, police said Wednesday. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 10/29/21 8:59:41 AM #2:	But that guy didn't want lawn care. That's why he started blasting. --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:959498588] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>But that guy didn't want lawn care. That's why he started blasting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 10/29/21 9:02:53 AM #3:	The dark side of HOAs. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:959498646] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>The dark side of HOAs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 10/29/21 9:03:37 AM #4:	The spark of government overreach is gonna lead to cries for more government overreach. Yeaaaah. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:959498657] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>The spark of government overreach is gonna lead to cries for more government overreach. Yeaaaah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 10/29/21 9:35:53 AM #5:	To be fair, I wouldn't actually call that government overreach (at least, not in the usual sense). The homeowner signed on to the HOA's regulations when he bought the house (or, if it was brought in later, when he chose to stay there), this is just the government enforcing his compliance with them. The HOA is most likely overreaching, because that's what HOAs do (and, in a sense, they are a government of their own), but the government's just providing this enforcement service to that private organization. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:959499331] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>To be fair, I wouldn't actually call that government overreach (at least, not in the usual sense). The homeowner signed on to the HOA's regulations when he bought the house (or, if it was brought in later, when he chose to stay there), this is just the government enforcing his compliance with them. The HOA is most likely overreaching, because that's what HOAs do (and, in a sense, they are a government of their own), but the government's just providing this enforcement service to that private organization. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 10/29/21 10:24:21 AM #6:	adjl posted... The dark side of HOAs. As if this is the only one, lol The "bright side of HOAs" would be the FAR shorter list adjl posted... To be fair, I wouldn't actually call that government overreach (at least, not in the usual sense). The homeowner signed on to the HOA's regulations when he bought the house (or, if it was brought in later, when he chose to stay there), this is just the government enforcing his compliance with them. The HOA is most likely overreaching, because that's what HOAs do (and, in a sense, they are a government of their own), but the government's just providing this enforcement service to that private organization. TO BE FAIR... A lot of people have little choice anymore when it comes to HOAs, they're a cancer that spread everywhere. Some states like TX and FL are known to be especially bad. Governments encourage it b/c if it's an HOA community, they can charge HOA fees for road maintenance and such, which the government would normally have to pay for w/ your tax dollars (which you still pay in full, of course). I literally could not find a property that wasn't rural and way out from civilization to build my house that isn't in an HOA. Best I could do was get a lot advertised as "no HOA!" that...actually did have HOA covenants, but at least only a handful and no fees or HOA board (enforcement strictly by others in the community taking "offenders" to court....I'll see how that goes....) Also TO BE FAIR.... No. HOA is in no way, shape or form "government". The covenants are not the government's job to enforce or care about and they should've never intervened to this degree. The government should not be providing them "enforcement services" of any kind. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:959500270] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>The dark side of HOAs.</quote>As if this is the only one, lol The "bright side of HOAs" would be the FAR shorter list adjl posted... </cite> <quote>To be fair, I wouldn't actually call that government overreach (at least, not in the usual sense). The homeowner signed on to the HOA's regulations when he bought the house (or, if it was brought in later, when he chose to stay there), this is just the government enforcing his compliance with them. The HOA is most likely overreaching, because that's what HOAs do (and, in a sense, they are a government of their own), but the government's just providing this enforcement service to that private organization.</quote>TO BE FAIR... A lot of people have little choice anymore when it comes to HOAs, they're a cancer that spread everywhere. Some states like TX and FL are known to be especially bad. Governments encourage it b/c if it's an HOA community, they can charge HOA fees for road maintenance and such, which the government would normally have to pay for w/ your tax dollars (which you still pay in full, of course). I literally could not find a property that wasn't rural and way out from civilization to build my house that isn't in an HOA. Best I could do was get a lot advertised as "no HOA!" that...actually did have HOA covenants, but at least only a handful and no fees or HOA board (enforcement strictly by others in the community taking "offenders" to court....I'll see how that goes....) Also TO BE FAIR.... No. HOA is in no way, shape or form "government". The covenants are not the government's job to enforce or care about and they should've never intervened to this degree. The government should not be providing them "enforcement services" of any kind. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 10/29/21 10:37:00 AM #8:	An attempt by Austin, Texas, officials to serve a search warrant and provide lawn care resulted in shots fired, an hourslong standoff, a house fire and a death, police said Wednesday. Police officers and code enforcement officers arrived at a home at 9:16 a.m. to serve a nuisance search warrant, but could not make contact with the resident, Austin Police Chief Joseph Chacon said at an evening news conference. The warrant was left at the door and contractors for the city's code enforcement began working on the lawn. About an hour later, the resident started shooting from inside the house, Chacon said. "And they immediately backed off. They got all of the staff that was working on the house to safety and and a SWAT call was initiated for a barricaded subject," he said. SWAT, mental health officers and a crisis negotiator arrived on scene, but could not get the man out of the home, leading to the lockdown of a nearby elementary school and the closure of several streets. "SWAT spent the next several hours trying to negotiate with the individual to just simply come out of the house," Chacon said. This is fucking insane! There should have NEVER been a search warrant for a fucking lawn. And they say "code enforcement," but later say it was to comply w/ a HOA covenant, NOT a government code. At about 3 p.m., the resident started shooting at officers again. "And because of that immediate threat ... they made entry using a robot," Chacon said. The robot helped officers determine that a fire had been started in the home, and was quickly spreading, he said. Officers still couldn't get the man to come out of the house as it became fully engulfed in flames. Translation: Police set the house on fire, probably by accidentally striking a gas line or something. Why though? Why were they even there? Why did this ever escalate in the first place? Why the fuck did they lockdown schools when the dude was refusing to leave his house? Everything about this screams, "wanna be soldiers practically creaming themselves at their first chance to play pretend terror response". But then the man exited through the garage with weapons in his hand. "At that time, a SWAT officer shot and struck the resident who went down with a gunshot wound," Chacon said. I totally believe the police narrative of what happened, and I'm sure if the suspect was alive to give his side of the story, it'd still 100% check out, ok? He absolutely must have been charging out to go down in a "blaze of glory" and not merely trying to escape his blazing house, ok? Officers got the man away from the house and treated him before he was taken to a hospital, where he died. It's unclear what caused his death. lol, unclear what caused the death of the guy shot by police The resident of the home has not been identified. Austin Police spokesperson Jose Mendez said he was a white man in his 50s. Their main goal Wednesday was to get the man in compliance with the local homeowners association. And there it fucking is! "Code compliance", my ass! They attempted to cut the lawn for him, and this is the reaction they got, Mendez said. Fuck you, Jose Mendez. They invaded his property w/ a small army. What a fucking absolute shit take, and from the official police spokesman, no less. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:959500546] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote><quote>An attempt by Austin, Texas, officials to serve a search warrant and provide lawn care resulted in shots fired, an hourslong standoff, a house fire and a death, police said Wednesday. Police officers and code enforcement officers arrived at a home at 9:16 a.m. to serve a nuisance search warrant, but could not make contact with the resident, Austin Police Chief Joseph Chacon said at an evening news conference. The warrant was left at the door and contractors for the city's code enforcement began working on the lawn. About an hour later, the resident started shooting from inside the house, Chacon said. "And they immediately backed off. They got all of the staff that was working on the house to safety and and a SWAT call was initiated for a barricaded subject," he said. SWAT, mental health officers and a crisis negotiator arrived on scene, but could not get the man out of the home, leading to the lockdown of a nearby elementary school and the closure of several streets. "SWAT spent the next several hours trying to negotiate with the individual to just simply come out of the house," Chacon said.</quote>This is fucking insane! There should have NEVER been a search warrant for a fucking lawn. And they say "code enforcement," but later say it was to comply w/ a HOA covenant, NOT a government code. <quote>At about 3 p.m., the resident started shooting at officers again. "And because of that immediate threat ... they made entry using a robot," Chacon said. The robot helped officers determine that a fire had been started in the home, and was quickly spreading, he said. Officers still couldn't get the man to come out of the house as it became fully engulfed in flames.</quote>Translation: Police set the house on fire, probably by accidentally striking a gas line or something. Why though? Why were they even there? Why did this ever escalate in the first place? Why the fuck did they lockdown schools when the dude was refusing to leave his house? Everything about this screams, "wanna be soldiers practically creaming themselves at their first chance to play pretend terror response". <quote>But then the man exited through the garage with weapons in his hand. "At that time, a SWAT officer shot and struck the resident who went down with a gunshot wound," Chacon said.</quote>I totally believe the police narrative of what happened, and I'm sure if the suspect was alive to give his side of the story, it'd still 100% check out, ok? He absolutely must have been charging out to go down in a "blaze of glory" and not merely trying to escape his blazing house, ok? <quote>Officers got the man away from the house and treated him before he was taken to a hospital, where he died. It's unclear what caused his death.</quote>lol, unclear what caused the death of the guy shot by police <quote>The resident of the home has not been identified. Austin Police spokesperson Jose Mendez said he was a white man in his 50s. Their main goal Wednesday was to get the man in compliance with the local homeowners association.</quote>And there it fucking is! "Code compliance", my ass! <quote>They attempted to cut the lawn for him, and this is the reaction they got, Mendez said.</quote>Fuck you, Jose Mendez. They invaded his property w/ a small army. What a fucking absolute shit take, and from the official police spokesman, no less. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 10/29/21 1:29:31 PM #9:	Are there pictures of the lawn in the article that my phone is unable to load? But anyways dude starts randomly shooting guns from inside his house, I'm not on his side. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:959505001] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>Are there pictures of the lawn in the article that my phone is unable to load? But anyways dude starts randomly shooting guns from inside his house, I'm not on his side. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 10/29/21 1:57:20 PM #10:	State flag literally has the motto "Don't tread on me." If they're that passionate about stopping people from walking on their grass, it's no surprise that things get really crazy when somebody tries to cut it. adjl posted... To be fair, I wouldn't actually call that government overreach (at least, not in the usual sense). The homeowner signed on to the HOA's regulations when he bought the house (or, if it was brought in later, when he chose to stay there), this is just the government enforcing his compliance with them. The HOA is most likely overreaching, because that's what HOAs do (and, in a sense, they are a government of their own), but the government's just providing this enforcement service to that private organization. The core issue is the government being involved in a minor civil dispute, which shouldn't have happened. It wasn't a public regulation so therefore the government had no place in enforcing it. streamofthesky posted... A lot of people have little choice anymore when it comes to HOAs, they're a cancer that spread everywhere. Some states like TX and FL are known to be especially bad. Which is a second, very real issue. HOAs used to be a matter of choice and convenience. Nowadays they take up a very large segment in many areas, and that problem is compounded by the housing crunch. BlackScythe0 posted... Are there pictures of the lawn in the article that my phone is unable to load? That was the other thing I was really curious about. The one photo I could find, the grass looks short but supposedly they might have been cutting it when the incident happened: https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/10/28/in-standoff-over-unmown-lawn-texas-man-sets-house-on-fire-and-is-shot-to-death/ Given that it's a HOA, I can't imagine it was allowed to get anywhere near close to some homes in my area, let alone an actual problem. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:959505777] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>State flag literally has the motto "Don't tread on me." If they're that passionate about stopping people from walking on their grass, it's no surprise that things get really crazy when somebody tries to cut it. adjl posted... </cite> <quote>To be fair, I wouldn't actually call that government overreach (at least, not in the usual sense). The homeowner signed on to the HOA's regulations when he bought the house (or, if it was brought in later, when he chose to stay there), this is just the government enforcing his compliance with them. The HOA is most likely overreaching, because that's what HOAs do (and, in a sense, they are a government of their own), but the government's just providing this enforcement service to that private organization.</quote> The core issue is the government being involved in a minor civil dispute, which shouldn't have happened. It wasn't a public regulation so therefore the government had no place in enforcing it. streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>A lot of people have little choice anymore when it comes to HOAs, they're a cancer that spread everywhere. Some states like TX and FL are known to be especially bad.</quote> Which is a second, very real issue. HOAs used to be a matter of choice and convenience. Nowadays they take up a very large segment in many areas, and that problem is compounded by the housing crunch. BlackScythe0 posted... </cite> <quote>Are there pictures of the lawn in the article that my phone is unable to load?</quote> That was the other thing I was really curious about. The one photo I could find, the grass looks short but supposedly they might have been cutting it when the incident happened: https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/10/28/in-standoff-over-unmown-lawn-texas-man-sets-house-on-fire-and-is-shot-to-death/ Given that it's a HOA, I can't imagine it was allowed to get anywhere near close to some homes in my area, let alone an actual problem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 10/29/21 2:07:51 PM #11:	So like, why are HOAs always so shitty? Is it just because the people that run them get drunk on the littlest bit of power you can get? I'm not sure why they are even a thing anymore seeing as everyone hates them so much --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:959506078] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>So like, why are HOAs always so shitty? Is it just because the people that run them get drunk on the littlest bit of power you can get? I'm not sure why they are even a thing anymore seeing as everyone hates them so much </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 10/29/21 4:16:18 PM #12:	Muscles posted... So like, why are HOAs always so shitty? Is it just because the people that run them get drunk on the littlest bit of power you can get? Pretty much. Bunch of people that'd never be entrusted with power or authority of any sort by companies or the public getting onto HOA boards and going full Karen. I'm not sure why they are even a thing anymore seeing as everyone hates them so much Several reasons. Some annoying but understandable, some just plain stupid. Like I said, it's a money-maker for the government. Collect the same property taxes but be on the hook for less public services like road maintenance In turn, the governments encourage HOAs by giving some tax breaks to the developers if they set them up. From the state/county's perspective, they're paying a little up front for a permanent revenue increase. In many areas now, the builders/developers themselves buy up tracts of land to create their own cookie cutter housing subdivisions. This saves them money vs. building custom homes on the buyer's own lot (what I'm trying to do, and these fat cat builders are basically giving me the hand....). Maybe 20% of said savings are passed onto the buyer. Think assembly line / mass production. Some homeowners / homebuyers still see HOAs as a way to increase or "protect" property values. Which is both baseless and untrue, and rather stupid (yay, pay more in property taxes!). In the past, HOAs were used to segregate by keeping the minorities out of white neighborhoods, and today it basically comes down to the mistaken belief that having a micromanaging piece of shit HOA board will like... prevent neighbors from having meth labs in their garages or whatever. According to my friend, who's a real estate agent and also flips houses (buy, fix up, sell). He's actually even tried to buy land and build an affordable HOA-free housing community in the past, and literally none of the builders would agree. They straight up demand an HOA be setup for any new development here. But yes, they fucking suck, #4 is really dumb, and houses not in HOAs literally advertise it as a selling point, which should be a big clue as to how most people view them. Many end up in HOAs b/c they didn't have much of a choice. It's really crappy and corrupt, and yet another example of governments fucking over their own constituents for their own convenience. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:959509687] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>So like, why are HOAs always so shitty? Is it just because the people that run them get drunk on the littlest bit of power you can get?</quote>Pretty much. Bunch of people that'd never be entrusted with power or authority of any sort by companies or the public getting onto HOA boards and going full Karen. <quote>I'm not sure why they are even a thing anymore seeing as everyone hates them so much</quote>Several reasons. Some annoying but understandable, some just plain stupid. Like I said, it's a money-maker for the government. Collect the same property taxes but be on the hook for less public services like road maintenanceIn turn, the governments encourage HOAs by giving some tax breaks to the developers if they set them up. From the state/county's perspective, they're paying a little up front for a permanent revenue increase.In many areas now, the builders/developers themselves buy up tracts of land to create their own cookie cutter housing subdivisions. This saves them money vs. building custom homes on the buyer's own lot (what I'm trying to do, and these fat cat builders are basically giving me the hand....). Maybe 20% of said savings are passed onto the buyer. Think assembly line / mass production.Some homeowners / homebuyers still see HOAs as a way to increase or "protect" property values. Which is both baseless and untrue, and rather stupid (yay, pay more in property taxes!). In the past, HOAs were used to segregate by keeping the minorities out of white neighborhoods, and today it basically comes down to the mistaken belief that having a micromanaging piece of shit HOA board will like... prevent neighbors from having meth labs in their garages or whatever. According to my friend, who's a real estate agent and also flips houses (buy, fix up, sell). He's actually even tried to buy land and build an affordable HOA-free housing community in the past, and literally none of the builders would agree. They straight up demand an HOA be setup for any new development here. But yes, they fucking suck, #4 is really dumb, and houses not in HOAs literally advertise it as a selling point, which should be a big clue as to how most people view them. Many end up in HOAs b/c they didn't have much of a choice. It's really crappy and corrupt, and yet another example of governments fucking over their own constituents for their own convenience. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 10/29/21 4:34:43 PM #13:	Muscles posted... I'm not sure why they are even a thing anymore seeing as everyone hates them so much To be fair, at least some people like the conveniences associated with HOAs. They can provide some services, and give access to communal areas. However, stuff like that can often be driven less by the consumer and more by the developers, etc, and then the housing market often forces people to take that or nothing. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:959510214] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not sure why they are even a thing anymore seeing as everyone hates them so much</quote> To be fair, at least some people like the conveniences associated with HOAs. They can provide some services, and give access to communal areas. However, stuff like that can often be driven less by the consumer and more by the developers, etc, and then the housing market often forces people to take that or nothing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcturusisnow 10/31/21 10:45:27 AM #14:	Zeus posted... To be fair, at least some people like the conveniences associated with HOAs. They can provide some services, and give access to communal areas. However, stuff like that can often be driven less by the consumer and more by the developers, etc, and then the housing market often forces people to take that or nothing. @Zeus here with the fucked up take that HOAs are in any way good. Hey Zeus, go the fuck away please. Your opinions are shit and have been shown as such multiple times. <cite>Arcturusisnow posted [p:959559064] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>To be fair, at least some people like the conveniences associated with HOAs. They can provide some services, and give access to communal areas. However, stuff like that can often be driven less by the consumer and more by the developers, etc, and then the housing market often forces people to take that or nothing.</quote>@Zeus here with the fucked up take that HOAs are in any way good. Hey Zeus, go the fuck away please. Your opinions are shit and have been shown as such multiple times. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jsb0714 10/31/21 11:35:06 AM #15:	Zeus posted... To be fair, at least some people like the conveniences associated with HOAs. They can provide some services, and give access to communal areas. They "can" provide some services, but they won't. <cite>jsb0714 posted [p:959559986] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>To be fair, at least some people like the conveniences associated with HOAs. They can provide some services, and give access to communal areas.</quote>They "can" provide some services, but they won't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 11/01/21 8:11:08 AM #16:	BlackScythe0 posted... Are there pictures of the lawn in the article that my phone is unable to load? But anyways dude starts randomly shooting guns from inside his house, I'm not on his side. I agree. He should have shot at the HOA board instead. streamofthesky posted... According to my friend, who's a real estate agent and also flips houses (buy, fix up, sell). He's actually even tried to buy land and build an affordable HOA-free housing community in the past, and literally none of the builders would agree. They straight up demand an HOA be setup for any new development here. Just lie about it or shut it down like a week later. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:959585875] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Are there pictures of the lawn in the article that my phone is unable to load? But anyways dude starts randomly shooting guns from inside his house, I'm not on his side. </quote> I agree. He should have shot at the HOA board instead. streamofthesky posted...</cite> <quote>According to my friend, who's a real estate agent and also flips houses (buy, fix up, sell). He's actually even tried to buy land and build an affordable HOA-free housing community in the past, and literally none of the builders would agree. They straight up demand an HOA be setup for any new development here.</quote> Just lie about it or shut it down like a week later.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 11/01/21 8:59:48 AM #17:	Revelation34 posted... Just lie about it or shut it down like a week later. What? <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:959586579] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>Just lie about it or shut it down like a week later.</quote>What? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 11/01/21 10:19:36 AM #18:	streamofthesky posted... What? Either lie and don't create it or shut it down later. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:959587954] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted...</cite> <quote> What? </quote> Either lie and don't create it or shut it down later.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Archgoat 11/01/21 10:56:14 AM #19:	Zeus posted... State flag literally has the motto "Don't tread on me." If they're that passionate about stopping people from walking on their grass, it's no surprise that things get really crazy when somebody tries to cut it. The Texas state flag does not have Don't Tread on Me on it. Maybe you are thinking of the Gadsden flag. <cite>Archgoat posted [p:959588743] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>State flag literally has the motto "Don't tread on me." If they're that passionate about stopping people from walking on their grass, it's no surprise that things get really crazy when somebody tries to cut it. </quote> The Texas state flag does not have Don't Tread on Me on it. Maybe you are thinking of the Gadsden flag. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 11/02/21 7:08:28 AM #20:	It's weird that Rev wants to turn a looney into a martyr for a message that most people already agree with. The guy being a nut and HOAs being bad aren't mutually exclusive. Revelation34 posted... Either lie and don't create it or shut it down later. "Developers HATE this one simple trick!" You can't lie when there's a contract, and HOAs established by developers are controlled by developers so you won't have the power to dissolve it. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:959615303] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>It's weird that Rev wants to turn a looney into a martyr for a message that most people already agree with. The guy being a nut and HOAs being bad aren't mutually exclusive. Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>Either lie and don't create it or shut it down later.</quote>"Developers HATE this one simple trick!" You can't lie when there's a contract, and HOAs established by developers are controlled by developers so you won't have the power to dissolve it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/02/21 7:13:51 AM #21:	Muscles posted... So like, why are HOAs always so shitty? Is it just because the people that run them get drunk on the littlest bit of power you can get? I'm not sure why they are even a thing anymore seeing as everyone hates them so much a lot of them are old and corrupt and then there are ones that have dealt with some actual nightmare property owners who really diminish home value in the area. Im talking about people who just litter the place with junk with no regard to anything at all but the problem is that then the people working for the HOA go way overboard a lot of the time and start sending warnings and fines for silly hall monitor shit. Like one time one tried to fine us because a storm blew a screen off of one of our windows. I hadnt noticed it because it was a small side window, but I found the screen and just popped it back into place and ignored their dumb fine. Never heard anything of it beyond that. --- Proud B Student <cite>Mead posted [p:959615354] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>So like, why are HOAs always so shitty? Is it just because the people that run them get drunk on the littlest bit of power you can get? I'm not sure why they are even a thing anymore seeing as everyone hates them so much</quote> a lot of them are old and corrupt and then there are ones that have dealt with some actual nightmare property owners who really diminish home value in the area. Im talking about people who just litter the place with junk with no regard to anything at all but the problem is that then the people working for the HOA go way overboard a lot of the time and start sending warnings and fines for silly hall monitor shit. Like one time one tried to fine us because a storm blew a screen off of one of our windows. I hadnt noticed it because it was a small side window, but I found the screen and just popped it back into place and ignored their dumb fine. Never heard anything of it beyond that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 11/02/21 8:12:35 AM #22:	Veedrock- posted... "Developers HATE this one simple trick!" You can't lie when there's a contract, and HOAs established by developers are controlled by developers so you won't have the power to dissolve it. Yup. They'll want the HOA covenants written up before they begin work on the property, and in order to subdivide a parcel of land into the lots for houses, a plat is required. The government will need to know in order for the plat to be approved whether the roads will be publicly maintained or private (HOA). I was so confused by his statement, b/c it made no sense at all. You can't just "fake" having a HOA. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:959616030] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>"Developers HATE this one simple trick!" You can't lie when there's a contract, and HOAs established by developers are controlled by developers so you won't have the power to dissolve it.</quote>Yup. They'll want the HOA covenants written up before they begin work on the property, and in order to subdivide a parcel of land into the lots for houses, a plat is required. The government will need to know in order for the plat to be approved whether the roads will be publicly maintained or private (HOA). I was so confused by his statement, b/c it made no sense at all. You can't just "fake" having a HOA. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 11/02/21 12:51:18 PM #23:	Veedrock- posted... It's weird that Rev wants to turn a looney into a martyr for a message that most people already agree with. The guy being a nut and HOAs being bad aren't mutually exclusive. "Developers HATE this one simple trick!" You can't lie when there's a contract, and HOAs established by developers are controlled by developers so you won't have the power to dissolve it. If the contract says it can't be shut down then it can't be shut down. If the contract only says something like "an HOA" will be established then it can be shut down because of that loophole. Also it would be a third party creating the community so it would fall under the friend to be the president. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:959621998] in Yeesh... d... [t:79733867]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>It's weird that Rev wants to turn a looney into a martyr for a message that most people already agree with. The guy being a nut and HOAs being bad aren't mutually exclusive. "Developers HATE this one simple trick!" You can't lie when there's a contract, and HOAs established by developers are controlled by developers so you won't have the power to dissolve it. </quote> If the contract says it can't be shut down then it can't be shut down. If the contract only says something like "an HOA" will be established then it can be shut down because of that loophole. Also it would be a third party creating the community so it would fall under the friend to be the president.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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