Poll of the Day > Fauci under fire for torturing dogs in his experiments.

(+) Yeah! (+)

https://nypost.com/2021/10/27/fauci-slammed-by-beagle-organization-over-alleged-experiments/amp/

Im not a dog fan, but wow, what a sick fuck. Trapping dogs in cages with hungry sandflies to be eaten alive? This is sick.

Well it sounded absurd and turns out it is

Fuck him

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Literally no citations or links on that page?

I'm not denying any accusations, but cmon let's see the: grant that was funded by the NIH that approved this work, the iacuc approval for the animal protocols

I can guarantee that no such experiments would EVER be funded by the NIH or approved by the IACUC if the actual experiment is: let dogs be eaten alive by flies

Not how any of this works

Oh, and for the record them being funded by the NIH does not make them his experiments or his lab even if any of this is true

Nevermind I'm an idiot and just saw who the topic creator was. I guess I don't need to argue against it anymore when he generally does a good enough job of that himself

Stopped reading after https://nypost.


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HornedLion posted...

Stopped reading after https://nypost.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/sexton-labcoat-tyrant-fauci-feeling-pressure-as-beagle-flies-scandal-fuels-distrust.amp

MartianManchild posted...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/sexton-labcoat-tyrant-fauci-feeling-pressure-as-beagle-flies-scandal-fuels-distrust.amp

Stopped reading after https://www.foxnews.

/inb4infowarz.com

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HornedLion posted...

Stopped reading after https://www.foxnews.

/inb4infowarz.com

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10129137/Rand-Paul-

Can you provide a link that's not some far right rag? You know, something that has actual merit to it?

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Health man perform unethical experiments on dogs, that means vaccine will kill you

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papercup posted...

Can you provide a link that's not some far right rag? You know, something that has actual merit to it?

Ok. Fine. I know this shatters a lot of peoples perception of reality but its really messed up that he supported this and taxpayer money went towards it.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/children-health-defense-calls-fauci-195700752.html

Ahh yes, Robert Kennedy Jr, famed, let me see....

• Anti-vaccine activist
• conspiracy theorist
• author
• environmental lawyer

Totally a trustworthy source

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Zareth posted...

Ahh yes, Robert Kennedy Jr, famed, let me see....

* Anti-vaccine activist
* conspiracy theorist
* author
* environmental lawyer
Totally a trustworthy source

Way to straw man. Its pretty obvious you didnt actually read any of the multiple sources I posted.

MartianManchild posted...

Ok. Fine. I know this shatters a lot of peoples perception of reality but its really messed up that he supported this and taxpayer money went towards it.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/children-health-defense-calls-fauci-195700752.html

So youre posting an article that describes events (without proof) in a book being released by a known anti-vaxxer, and not only that, but the person they quote is a member of the anti-vaccination group that RFK Jr heads?

ooooookkkkkayy

MartianManchild posted...

Way to straw man. Its pretty obvious you didnt actually read any of the multiple sources I posted.

multiple sources? more like multiple secondary sources.

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MartianManchild posted...

Way to straw man.

I don't think you know what that word means.

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Zareth posted...

I don't think you know what that word means.

Thats exactly what you did with your post.

MartianManchild posted...

Way to straw man. Its pretty obvious you didnt actually read any of the multiple sources I posted.

You didn't provide sources you gave links to unsourced stories.

BlackScythe0 posted...

You didn't provide sources you gave links to unsourced stories.

Which are still weird. I read three out of the four and apparently the amount of taxpayer money wasted was either:
-$1.68 million
-$424 thousand
-or a $376 thousand grant

so even his dumbass sources dont agree.

why even feed

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Fauci is our hero. Close this thread.

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Poor puppies. Animal testing can be very cruel.

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Nice to see everyone can read a study.

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The first time I ever exposed myself to gore online was when I was in 8th grade English and I did a report on animal testing where we had to make a poster lmao

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Every single alt news site is shitting this through the 'ole media mill. Extremely profitable story, and nobody seems to be actually going through with reading the study at hand.

Sorry, but I turn into an asshole any time I see a commercial with Sarah Mclachlan playing, and flies flying around a dog or a kid. None of the photos I've seen have been properly sourced. I'm sure every single person freaking out about this buys dozens of products tested on animals.

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NY Post is a pile of dogshit.

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ReturnOfFa posted...

Every single alt news site is shitting this through the 'ole media mill. Extremely profitable story, and nobody seems to be actually going through with reading the study at hand.

Sorry, but I turn into an asshole any time I see a commercial with Sarah Mclachlan playing, and flies flying around a dog or a kid. None of the photos I've seen have been properly sourced. I'm sure every single person freaking out about this buys dozens of products tested on animals.

Yeah, I feel bad for animals and I wish their conditions were better in some testing facilities, but sometimes animal testing is necessary.

And did you honestly believe that people would read the study?

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Jen0125 posted...

Yeah, I feel bad for animals and I wish their conditions were better in some testing facilities, but sometimes animal testing is necessary.

And did you honestly believe that people would read the study?

Nah lmao.

It's really funny watching 'journalists' that people think are 'subversive' like Breaking Points (Krystal and Saagar) devoting a whole segment to puppy abuse porn.

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MartianManchild posted...

Thats exactly what you did with your post.

Pointing out that your sources are bullshit conspiracy theorists isn't a strawman argument

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Unsurprisingly, this has already been thoroughly debunked.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/10/25/fauci-puppy-experiments-conspiracy-republicans/

Cliff-notes version:
-The Tunisian study which was the subject of the original article was not actually supported by NIAID; other research in Tunisia *was* supported by NIAID and the New York Post seemed to fuck up and get them confused (no surprise there, considering it's a Murdoch rag), but said research did not involve animal testing.
-The dogs in that Tunisian study weren't trapped in cages and fed to flies; they were given a vaccine and allowed to roam freely, because they were the main reservoir host - and flies the main vector - of the disease being studied (which has a mortality rate of ~6% when infecting humans).
-A *third* study, which was also randomly collated into this mess, did involve "de-barking" beagle puppies and euthanizing them after the study, but that is because:
a) It is necessary to use young dogs to see the drugs' effects on growth
b) It is legally mandated that animal testing (on non-rodent mammals) be conducted on HIV-AIDS drugs and it is required that they be euthanized afterwards so that researchers can assess their organs for damage.
c) It is recommended that dogs being used for this research be de-barked because otherwise the constant barking stresses the dogs out (not to mention the researchers).
d) This was all to research next-generation antiretrovirals for the treatment of HIV/AIDS.

In other words, not nearly as controversial as the right-wing trolls are trying to paint it as.

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darkknight109 posted...

Unsurprisingly, this has already been thoroughly debunked.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/10/25/fauci-puppy-experiments-conspiracy-republicans/

Cliff-notes version:
-The Tunisian study which was the subject of the original article was not actually supported by NIAID; other research in Tunisia *was* supported by NIAID and the New York Post seemed to fuck up and get them confused (no surprise there, considering it's a Murdoch rag), but said research did not involve animal testing.
-The dogs in that Tunisian study weren't trapped in cages and fed to flies; they were given a vaccine and allowed to roam freely, because they were the main reservoir host - and flies the main vector - of the disease being studied (which has a mortality rate of ~6% when infecting humans).
-A *third* study, which was also randomly collated into this mess, did involve "de-barking" beagle puppies and euthanizing them after the study, but that is because:
a) It is necessary to use young dogs to see the drugs' effects on growth
b) It is legally mandated that animal testing (on non-rodent mammals) be conducted on HIV-AIDS drugs and it is required that they be euthanized afterwards so that researchers can assess their organs for damage.
c) It is recommended that dogs being used for this research be de-barked because otherwise the constant barking stresses the dogs out (not to mention the researchers).
d) This was all to research next-generation antiretrovirals for the treatment of HIV/AIDS.

In other words, not nearly as controversial as the right-wing trolls are trying to paint it as.

Oh wow look an article with sources and wouldn't you know the conservative nonsense was the nonsense we knew it to be all along.

ouch oof tc under fire yet again for being the lowest common denominator
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I also think it's really funny when an Olympian saves 280 dogs from South Korea or some shit. Trick's on you THEY GONNA BREED MORE!!!

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LOCK AND LOAD

strap those hard-ons down boys

I know we're all HORNY for revenge. we'll make that old fuck fauci pay some day

AMERRRICAAAAAGWAURHAWHGGWHAHRWRAWRR

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I'm not even a dog fan!

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I love it when gaslighters and conspiracy spreaders accuse everyone else of gaslighting when said crowds choose not to believe the obvious bullshit.

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papercup posted...

Can you provide a link that's not some far right rag? You know, something that has actual merit to it?

far to either side has bias
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

far to either side has bias

The problem is one side treating lunacy as reality and says the other side is actually the extreme ones.

The blind political bias on this site is nauseating.

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Most media sucks dick, it's true. Anything right-wing sucks a super load of dicks full of cum though.

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And not even the clean or safe stuff.

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Krazy_Kirby posted...

far to either side has bias

https://youtu.be/_OFudWnMJSU

https://youtu.be/Fkn4ugYO6uc

https://youtu.be/AQvqfS2kvFw

Does Left-Wing media cause domestic terrorism of these numbers? Pretty long compilation that doesn't spend more than a minute or two on each one.

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did left wing members attempt an insurrection on this nations capitol?

that's pretty much the worst thing you can do under domestic terrorism, short of actually succeeding at it
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One side is guilty of sensationalism and omitting details they deem unnecessary to their narrative.

The other side is guilty of being outright contrarian to facts, of giving air time to unfounded conspiracies and anti-science, as well as yielding air time to frauds who've no place giving testimony on serious subjects as though they had the privilege of having such access to that information, of rallying domestic terrorists and white supremacists, and sitting back while the world is on the verge of burning until the moment the flames pile on -- then somehow it's the other side's fault.

Sure, both sides are "biased;" just like an ice box and a slew of forest fires are extreme temperatures.

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MartianManchild posted...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10129137/Rand-Paul-

Ironically Daily Mail is the worst out of the ones you already linked.

darkknight109 posted...

Unsurprisingly, this has already been thoroughly debunked.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/10/25/fauci-puppy-experiments-conspiracy-republicans/

Cliff-notes version:
-The Tunisian study which was the subject of the original article was not actually supported by NIAID; other research in Tunisia *was* supported by NIAID and the New York Post seemed to fuck up and get them confused (no surprise there, considering it's a Murdoch rag), but said research did not involve animal testing.
-The dogs in that Tunisian study weren't trapped in cages and fed to flies; they were given a vaccine and allowed to roam freely, because they were the main reservoir host - and flies the main vector - of the disease being studied (which has a mortality rate of ~6% when infecting humans).
-A *third* study, which was also randomly collated into this mess, did involve "de-barking" beagle puppies and euthanizing them after the study, but that is because:
a) It is necessary to use young dogs to see the drugs' effects on growth
b) It is legally mandated that animal testing (on non-rodent mammals) be conducted on HIV-AIDS drugs and it is required that they be euthanized afterwards so that researchers can assess their organs for damage.
c) It is recommended that dogs being used for this research be de-barked because otherwise the constant barking stresses the dogs out (not to mention the researchers).
d) This was all to research next-generation antiretrovirals for the treatment of HIV/AIDS.

In other words, not nearly as controversial as the right-wing trolls are trying to paint it as.

Debarking is animal cruelty.

ReturnOfFa posted...

AMERRRICAAAAAGWAURHAWHGGWHAHRWRAWRR

Goddammit. I read that in Alex Jones' voice.

Adam_Savage posted...

did left wing members attempt an insurrection on this nations capitol?

that's pretty much the worst thing you can do under domestic terrorism, short of actually succeeding at it

I would say assaulting the White House itself would be worse.

Entity13 posted...

One side is guilty of sensationalism and omitting details they deem unnecessary to their narrative.

This is literally the purest example of both sides. Media is shit in general.
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MartianManchild posted...

Ok

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And OP won't be back lol

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Revelation34 posted...

Debarking is animal cruelty.

In most cases, yes. However, it is considered a best-practice for lab animals (for those that will be euthanized as part of the tests), because the constant noise of the barking stresses the dogs out (and can also lead to hearing damage in the researchers).

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Torturing dogs is an alpha move.

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