Poll of the Day > Watched the baseball playoffs. Saw the Braves still use the stereotypical chant

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/24/21 12:04:28 AM
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Wtf. Heard they are adamant in keeping things as is with zero changes. The game was over 80% white midwesterners doing the chant with a tomahawk chop. Cleveland was wrong but this somehow cool?

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lihlih
10/24/21 12:08:51 AM
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They're from one of the southern states. Don't you know that racism is the in thing in those states.
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Metalsonic66
10/24/21 12:10:14 AM
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Uhhhhuuuuhhhhhuuuuuhhhhh

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Lynyrd_Skynyrd
10/24/21 12:12:32 AM
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Kansas City Chiefs fans do it too. Casual racism is as American as apple pie
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/24/21 12:18:54 AM
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So Cleveland wasnt southern enough is why? Wtf.

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DirtBasedSoap
10/24/21 12:35:58 AM
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i hate the braves and the astros

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Muscles
10/24/21 2:14:07 AM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
So Cleveland wasnt southern enough is why? Wtf.
Well one of them didn't have an insensitive stereotype as a logo, it's the same reason Blackhawks and Chiefs are good

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FatalAccident
10/24/21 2:21:54 AM
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what chant

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FrozenBananas
10/24/21 6:34:59 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
what chant

called the tomahawk chop, people pretend to chop an axe over their head and chant like a Native American

https://youtu.be/JYc_s4vLFNI

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FatalAccident
10/24/21 6:37:17 AM
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throwing a tomahawk is offensive? or is the chant offensive? I can't hear what they're saying.

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11110111011
10/24/21 6:37:58 AM
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Get over yourself.
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ArvTheGreat
10/24/21 10:43:32 AM
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arvs native american arv can shoot what he wants

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DirtBasedSoap
10/24/21 2:06:05 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
throwing a tomahawk is offensive? or is the chant offensive? I can't hear what they're saying.
a bunch of white people doing a Native American chant over and over at baseball games is pure cringe

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/24/21 10:42:58 PM
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11110111011 posted...
Get over yourself.
Lol. Get over yourself fam.

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FatalAccident
10/25/21 2:01:34 AM
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I mean it doesnt seem that bad considering the teams name and theme?

If there were a sports team with a Zulu warrior theme and the fans had a Zulu themed war chant with bow and arrow or spear type movements I wouldnt be offended personally.

Cringe maybe but dont see whats offensive about it. I mean itd be offensive if the other team were native Americans and they were doing the tomahawk chop against the team.

Again, I cant actually hear what theyre saying so unless the chant itself is saying anything offensive I dont really see the issue. You cant cancel something just cos its cringe.

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Fierce_Deity_08
10/25/21 2:09:56 AM
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Its only offensive now because stupid people have more free time to waste because of COVID. Everything that people see as offensive was not a problem five years ago or so.

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Kanatteru
10/25/21 2:41:01 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
I mean it doesnt seem that bad considering the teams name and theme?

well yeah the name and theme are not great to begin with

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FatalAccident
10/25/21 6:32:01 AM
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Kanatteru posted...
well yeah the name and theme are not great to begin with

Native Americans are a part of your countrys history. I think it would be more of offensive to not even have them in any capacity in your media or sports landscape at all.

Not every portrayal of Native American culture has to be seen as appropriation or negative either.

Sure there can be some engagement with Native American community leaders to see what the most sensible and inoffensive way is to portray the culture or symbolism. But to say that Native American symbolism or culture shouldnt be used at all is a bit silly.

I know its not as sensitive but where do you draw the line? Are we going to stop Michigan from using the Spartans because its offensive to Greeks?

I think this is fine personally, I wouldnt want to see portrayal of indigenous culture removed from media altogether. If its such an issue then yeah deal with it more tactfully

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myghostisdead
10/25/21 6:44:40 AM
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I don't care if they do it. I don't need people getting offended for me.

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ChaoticKnuckles
10/25/21 7:30:50 AM
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
Its only offensive now because stupid people have more free time to waste because of COVID. Everything that people see as offensive was not a problem five years ago or so.

This is inaccurate. People have had problems with all of the Native American themed teams that do stuff like this for decades. If you havent noticed you havent been paying attention.

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SomeUsername529
10/25/21 8:43:18 AM
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The Braves have done an okay job of either avoiding or eliminating their racist stuff. They got rid of their fake Native man mascot in the mid 80s and in general their name and design are not specifically offensive. The tomahawk chop is definitely borderline but there's no red man stereotypes, no headdresses, or anything else like that. If there weren't absolutely atrocious examples from other teams/sports to mow down I don't know if there'd be much momentum for going after the Braves.
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ArvTheGreat
10/25/21 8:45:20 AM
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how are headdresses bad?

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Revelation34
10/25/21 8:57:45 AM
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ChaoticKnuckles posted...


This is inaccurate. People have had problems with all of the Native American themed teams that do stuff like this for decades. If you havent noticed you havent been paying attention.


White people only.
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Krazy_Kirby
10/25/21 3:18:39 PM
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ChaoticKnuckles posted...


This is inaccurate. People have had problems with all of the Native American themed teams that do stuff like this for decades. If you havent noticed you havent been paying attention.


99% of the people who have problems with it aren't indians
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adjl
10/25/21 4:15:13 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
99% of the people who have problems with it aren't indians

100% of the people who have problems with murder aren't murder victims.

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Revelation34
10/25/21 4:28:10 PM
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adjl posted...


100% of the people who have problems with murder aren't murder victims.


What if the murder victim paid a hitman?
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