Board 8 > Reminder: Dune is out today

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You should see it, one way or another.

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Already seen it. European priveleges.
It was fantastic.
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htaeD posted...

Already seen it. European priveleges.
It was fantastic.

Not the UK and Ireland thanks to Bond lol, oh well.

Looking forward to seeing it but waiting for my partner to get back first so will probably be a few weeks.

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I wanna see this!


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What's a Dune

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I'll be sure to make No-Bake Spice Cookies in celebration

I've made these, they're pretty bad

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The no bake spice cookies must flow!

Will probably go see this in theater next week to avoid the initial crowds, but I am very excite

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As someone who has no familiarity with the series, is there a reason why all the characters have flowery, lyrical names, and then Jason Momoa is Steve Montana or something like that, lol?

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Duncan Idaho?

the main character's named "Paul" so

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NFUN posted...

Duncan Idaho?

the main character's named "Paul" so

Yes, that's what I meant. The main character's last name is still something fancy though.

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It was amazing.

Only minor gripe is in certain scenes the score drowns out the dialogue audio.

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Best cinematography I've witnessed since Blade Runner 2049. Absolutely beautiful, breathtaking film, and with an all-star cast it was going to be hard for it to not be well acted.
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I really liked it. Some scenes I was holding my breath without realising it.

A lot of setup though.

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All setup, but somehow still entertaining.

Making me wait 150 minutes for 3 seconds of worm surfing is some straight bullshit though.

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Loved it. Probably the best big-budget blockbuster I've seen in years.

One thing I particularly enjoyed (without even consciously realizing it until my gf pointed it out) is the almost complete lack of humor. After a decade of Marvel and new Star Wars dominating the blockbuster landscape, I've been forced to stomach way too much of that in every major movie. Not EVERYTHING needs to follow that tired ass formula, and thankfully Dune didn't.

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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Loved it. Probably the best big-budget blockbuster I've seen in years.

One thing I particularly enjoyed (without even consciously realizing it until my gf pointed it out) is the almost complete lack of humor. After a decade of Marvel and new Star Wars dominating the blockbuster landscape, I've been forced to stomach way too much of that in every major movie. Not EVERYTHING needs to follow that tired ass formula, and thankfully Dune didn't.

Hey now, youve got Duncan clowning on Pauls girlish physique.

Seriously though, humour would be really weird and out of place in Dune.


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really liked this. For an older franchise it felt really fresh

was worried it wouldn't hold my attention. I fell asleep during Blade Runner 2049, it was too dry and plodding for my taste. Dune was pretty rad.

Hope it makes a lot of money and we get a sequel

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10/10, god, gorgeous.
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Planning on watching it tomorrow, as a gigafan of the books I'm really wary of the film based on the trailers. So many shots of explosions and battles, but the book very rarely focuses on such things. The biggest battles universally take place off-page and are tersely described by one of the characters before moving on with the plot.

I liked it but I'm so shocked that they only did half the book. I somehow did not realize that going in.

It's not that I dislike the pacing, I think it matches the tone of the book very well. But I think to really *get* what Dune is doing you at least need to read Messiah, and with zero indication we're going to get that it's a pretty bold move.

I've just got zero clue what people who are unfamiliar with the series are gonna take from this

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I am very very confused as to why they downplayed the traitor subplot to the point of pretty much cutting it.

That's the entire intrigue of the first third of the book and no one even mentions the idea that there might be a traitor.

Absolutely fantastic. 9 outta 10.
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see you tomorrow quinton

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

I liked it but I'm so shocked that they only did half the book. I somehow did not realize that going in.

It's not that I dislike the pacing, I think it matches the tone of the book very well. But I think to really *get* what Dune is doing you at least need to read Messiah, and with zero indication we're going to get that it's a pretty bold move.

I've just got zero clue what people who are unfamiliar with the series are gonna take from this

I think I read that Villeneuve wants to do a trilogy

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

I've just got zero clue what people who are unfamiliar with the series are gonna take from this

"Whoa this new Tremors sequel got a huge budget!"

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The movie pretty much lines up with the book breaks in the book itself. That said, the DUNE Miniseries continues to be the best adaptation. I was frankly a bit disappointed in it, and I would be really hard pressed to know how someone without prior knowledge of the series would take it because they don't really explain too much at all or do so at such a quick pace that it's hard to get much from it.

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Never seen anything from it before, read the books or seen the adaptation

I got pretty much everything I think. There's a lot of elements but it was all fairly well-explained

I assume Thanos is still alive, didn't see him die on screen, but maybe I actually did miss that

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FFDragon posted...

"Whoa this new Tremors sequel got a huge budget!"

lol
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Did they explain Mentats or the lack of computers in the movie because I don't think they did, even though there were two prominent Mentats in the movie.

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FFDragon posted...

Did they explain Mentats or the lack of computers in the movie because I don't think they did, even though there were two prominent Mentats in the movie.

No they didn't

MechanicalWall posted...

No they didn't

bruh

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XIII_rocks posted...

I think I read that Villeneuve wants to do a trilogy

A trilogy would be pretty much ideal, so hopefully the movie does well enough to get two sequels confirmed. It seems to be on a good pace. It would just suck if we only got one sequel and left the third up in the air.

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NFUN posted...

bruh

Yah it seems like a strange thing to omit because the no computers thing is one of the main parts of the setting that distinguishes Dune from other sci-fi series.

I mean they also didn't explain why everyone was wearing energy shields and yet were still just fighting with weapons that went through them anyways. The lore is cool and all but I think people overstimate how much you need to know to follow the plot of the first book, which you can very easily just take as the fantasy/sci-fi mashup that it is.

Now, if they DO get to do a trilogy, all this stuff gets way more relevant (especially Mentats). But for a movie that also means it's best explained later, not now.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

mean they also didn't explain why everyone was wearing energy shields and yet were still just fighting with weapons that went through them anyways.

Maybe I'm wrong but I thought that was what Brolin was saying when he said "the slow blade penetrates the shield".

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

A trilogy would be pretty much ideal, so hopefully the movie does well enough to get two sequels confirmed. It seems to be on a good pace. It would just suck if we only got one sequel and left the third up in the air.

A third movie, if it is made, will cover the second book, Dune Messiah.

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no idea about anything Dune related but movie looks fantastic and hopefully makes me wanna read book(s)?

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I just finished reading the first book for the first time yesterday. Gonna see the movie some time this week/end. I'm excited! Loved the book.

redrocket posted...

A third movie, if it is made, will cover the second book, Dune Messiah.

Yeah that's what I mean. I'd have been fine with one Dune movie and maybe a sequel, but seeing that the plan is to structure the movies around covering Messiah it feels like a way bigger waste of potential if it doesn't. There's already a lot of foreshadowing for Messiah in this first movie.

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Yesmar_ posted...

As someone who has no familiarity with the series, is there a reason why all the characters have flowery, lyrical names, and then Jason Momoa is Steve Montana or something like that, lol?

A lot of the best people in the Atreides arsenal are take ins. Duncan Idaho was basically an orphan to my recollection that was trained as a Swordmaster of Ginaz. If I remember correctly, he isn't from Calladan like the other Atreides are.

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FFDragon posted...

Did they explain Mentats or the lack of computers in the movie because I don't think they did, even though there were two prominent Mentats in the movie.

I don't think they explained shields and lack of guns either. Had to be weirdseeing this desert rat have a gun towards the end and being like yooo where is everyone elses

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Just watched this. Enjoyed it quite a bit, though it really left me wanting more.

I read the first 3 books in the series maybe 6-7 years ago. And then I re-read the first 3 and also book 4, about 2 years ago.

The thing about my time reading the Dune books was that it wasn't what I expected it to be. I thought it was going to be about sand worms and battles and space fights, and, well, it's much more introspective and philosophical.

I remember being sort of dissatisfied after finishing the first book. In my mind, Messiah was a very necessary extended epilogue. Based on people's reactions to this movie being "only" half a book, I'm interested to see what the reaction to the end of the next movie will be.

And then the thing is, yes, you could stop reading after Messiah, but the reality is that Children finishes Paul's arc. So, it's basically required reading. I just don't think we're going to get there with this movie series though.

God Emperor though....man that was something else. When I did my 2nd read through of the series, I had planned on reading all 6 of the OG books. But by the time I finished God Emperor my momentum had run out.

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Seanchan posted...

Just watched this. Enjoyed it quite a bit, though it really left me wanting more.

I read the first 3 books in the series maybe 6-7 years ago. And then I re-read the first 3 and also book 4, about 2 years ago.

The thing about my time reading the Dune books was that it wasn't what I expected it to be. I thought it was going to be about sand worms and battles and space fights, and, well, it's much more introspective and philosophical.

I remember being sort of dissatisfied after finishing the first book. In my mind, Messiah was a very necessary extended epilogue. Based on people's reactions to this movie being "only" half a book, I'm interested to see what the reaction to the end of the next movie will be.

And then the thing is, yes, you could stop reading after Messiah, but the reality is that Children finishes Paul's arc. So, it's basically required reading. I just don't think we're going to get there with this movie series though.

God Emperor though....man that was something else. When I did my 2nd read through of the series, I had planned on reading all 6 of the OG books. But by the time I finished God Emperor my momentum had run out.

The last 2 books are the first 2/3 of an unfinished trilogy, so its not that bad to just stop at God Emperor.

And yes, Messiah isnt a terrible place to stop the films. but Children of Dune is the obvious natural end point, so Im somewhat surprised that Villenevue hasnt even floated the idea of filming that.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

I've just got zero clue what people who are unfamiliar with the series are gonna take from this

I'm somewhat unfamiliar (I've seen the David Lynch film but never read a word of the books) and felt this new iteration did a great job introducing and explaining the world. There was never so much exposition that I felt I was being lectured, but enough that I never felt lost with the plot, characters, or world culture.

This is in stark contrast to the Lynch version, where I remember being pretty damn confused (and yeah, I'm sure that's largely because he only had 2-3 hours to communicate the first book's story, while this new one has the luxury of 2-3 hours to show us just a chunk of it).

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CaptainOfCrush posted...

I'm somewhat unfamiliar (I've seen the David Lynch film but never read a word of the books) and felt this new iteration did a great job introducing and explaining the world. There was never so much exposition that I felt I was being lectured, but enough that I never felt lost with the plot, characters, or world culture.

It seems like... quite a lot of significant aspects of culture is missing? From this thread, it doesn't seem like they mention the Butlerian Jihad or OCB at all and those are pretty integral

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Yeah, I probably should have said that I'm very unfamiliar, not just "somewhat." Aside from Paul, the only thing I really remembered about the Lynch version is that the Harkonnens - especially the Baron - were gross.

So there really wasn't anything in this new movie that felt missing to me - I never gave one thought about the lack of computers, for example, and I doubt many other casual viewers would question something like that or ponder an answer for it.

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NFUN posted...

It seems like... quite a lot of significant aspects of culture is missing? From this thread, it doesn't seem like they mention the Butlerian Jihad or OCB at all and those are pretty integral

Just because they are integral to the setting doesnt mean they actually have to be explained.

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Going to see this on Wednesday, good to see the reviews are almost universally positive. Excited to see my first movie in theaters in at least 2 years

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redrocket posted...

Just because they are integral to the setting doesnt mean they actually have to be explained.

at the very least, it does mean that they weren't explained...

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redrocket posted...

The last 2 books are the first 2/3 of an unfinished trilogy, so its not that bad to just stop at God Emperor.

And yes, Messiah isnt a terrible place to stop the films. but Children of Dune is the obvious natural end point, so Im somewhat surprised that Villenevue hasnt even floated the idea of filming that.

He knows he can't surpass the awesome Children of Dune miniseries.
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