Current Events > Nearly 40 Percent of U.S. Gen Zs identify as LGBTQ

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toyota
10/22/21 2:55:27 AM
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Nature or Nurture?


https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-40-percent-us-gen-zs-30-percent-christians-identify-lgbtq-poll-shows-1641085

Is this nature or nurture at work? Why didnt it seem that high with previous generations even if you factored in closeted people?
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MrMallard
10/22/21 2:56:36 AM
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Nice Newsweek link, bro

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Heliogabalus
10/22/21 2:57:12 AM
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Or maybe people are feeling safe enough now to say yeah, Im not actually heteronormative

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Smashingpmkns
10/22/21 2:58:08 AM
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Hopefully the next gen will cut out the religious shit entirely
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Humble_Novice
10/22/21 2:58:34 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Hopefully the next gen will cut out the religious shit entirely
I hope so too.
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ssjevot
10/22/21 3:00:15 AM
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toyota posted...
https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-40-percent-us-gen-zs-30-percent-christians-identify-lgbtq-poll-shows-1641085

Is this nature or nurture at work? Why didnt it seem that high with previous generations even if you factored in closeted people?

There's always going to be both. A society that punishes you for being LGBT will obviously suppress the numbers. If you could be literally killed for coming out, you probably aren't going to. There is a large gap between being killed and no one botering you at all, so depending on where a society is on that scale it's going to influence how many feel comfortable coming out.

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Yadoken
10/22/21 3:07:38 AM
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fake news

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gunplagirl
10/22/21 3:20:25 AM
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Good

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David1988
10/22/21 3:21:14 AM
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sounds about right

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HairyQueen
10/22/21 3:21:52 AM
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Lets get it higher

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Yadoken
10/22/21 3:22:03 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Good

You will never be happy unless you get years of therapy.

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joe40001
10/22/21 3:26:00 AM
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Considering the incentives, this is not surprising.

Given the choice:
"Are you part of the patriarchy? (which btw everybody hates)"
or
"Are you interesting?"

It's no surprise so many cishet people still claim option 2.

I'm pretty sure the observed natural rate is like ~10%-ish

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joe40001
10/22/21 3:29:16 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Good

Why good? Do you think that number is accurate? Do you think it's less? Do you think it's more?

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DeadBankerDream
10/22/21 3:30:52 AM
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Sounds like a mix of bad polling, a shitty news site and the polling itself being targeted towards young people who aren't settled in life yet.

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KamenRiderBlade
10/22/21 3:57:55 AM
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Here are real stats taken by professionals:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/329708/lgbt-identification-rises-latest-estimate.aspx
Currently, 86.7% of Americans say they are heterosexual or straight, and 7.6% do not answer the question about their sexual orientation.








https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219
Current US Population estimate as of April 1, 2020 = 331,449,281 citizens
There are about 257,536,092 adults in the US (Citizens who are 18 y/o) which account for 77.7% of the total US Population.

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Guns_of_Verdun
10/22/21 3:59:05 AM
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I don't get why it matters

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Turbam
10/22/21 3:59:31 AM
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I'm glad that many people feel comfortable about it, and aren't trying to deny it like so many other generations did.

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ForsakenHermit
10/22/21 4:01:50 AM
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40% strikes me as a bit high. If it's true I'd wager the majority of them are bi or pan.

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shnangyboos
10/22/21 4:02:33 AM
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The oppressed class getting bigger and bigger.

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Arcanine2009
10/22/21 4:14:00 AM
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absolute bullshit fake.

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Pandamonic
10/22/21 4:27:46 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Good
This

Smashingpmkns posted...
Hopefully the next gen will cut out the religious shit entirely
And this

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dotsdfe
10/22/21 4:34:51 AM
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Yeah, I hate to say it, but that number seems extremely dubious given how much higher it is than almost any other study.

Regardless, it is encouraging that more reliable numbers are still on the rise. People should never be ashamed to be themselves. When I figured out that I was gay, I had a lot of problems dealing with it because I grew up in a very conservative area, and it was still a bit more stigmatized, so I was scared to even tell my internet friends. It's changed so much in a short time, and if absolutely nothing else, it's so much easier to be out online these days.

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Mizznox
10/22/21 4:35:17 AM
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Barna produced the 124-page study in conjunction with the Cultural Research Center at Arizona Christian University and Foundations of Freedom, a non-profit entity that promotes traditional American values.
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Barna's poll is based on a sampling of 600 respondents
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The poll didn't ask directly whether the respondent was gay or straight, asking instead to choose an answer to the question: "Thinking about your commitments, would you describe yourself as ...."

Six responses were allowed, with the one garnering the most "yes" answers (75 percent) among Millennials being: "Searching for purpose in your life," followed by 74 percent who answered: "Believe all religious faiths are of equal value."

"An American patriot" was next at 55 percent, followed by 54 percent who answered, "Often feel anxious, depressed or unsafe" and 52 percent who answered, "Deeply committed to practicing your faith."

"Prefer socialism to capitalism" was next at 48 percent and "LGBTQ" was last at 30 percent. The order is similar among the 18-24 demographic that has LGBTQ nine percentage points higher.

"It fits into the larger narrative. Millennials are a group that has trouble creating lasting, meaningful relationships," says Barna. "If their sense is that some of the people they want to be friends with and a group they want to be accepted by is LGBTQ, then they'll identify with them. It's about image, belonging and acceptance."
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While the large number of Millennials who identify as LGBTQ is attention-grabbing, Barna says what he found "really interesting is that 40 percent of them fall into the category of what we call the 'don'ts;' they don't believe that God exists, they don't care if God exists. That's the highest we have seen for any generation, ever."

"Why is it when previous generations were able to figure out why life was worth living, this one isn't figuring it out?" he asks. "It has to do with the spiritual changes in America. They don't buy into the Bible, they don't trust God, they don't believe in Jesus, and politics have codified that into law, and the media is a major part of it."


lol, this is some ridiculous shit
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scamatoru
10/22/21 5:00:51 AM
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@gunplagirl @Woozul why are fake bs stats 'good'?

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Kaiganeer
10/22/21 5:09:13 AM
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idk these numbers sound like alternative facts
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Sheeeeesh
10/22/21 5:15:56 AM
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nice "facts"
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UnfairRepresent
10/22/21 5:17:05 AM
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What a shitty propaganda piece

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CountDog
10/22/21 8:29:26 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Sounds like a mix of bad polling, a shitty news site and the polling itself being targeted towards young people who aren't settled in life yet.

Dead on the money.

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Xavier_On_High
10/22/21 8:45:39 AM
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Bisexuality has always been hugely underreported.

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EndOfDiscOne
10/22/21 8:49:15 AM
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Good to see it climbing. Lets get it to 50% next year.

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WeeWeiWiiWie
10/22/21 8:50:49 AM
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Sounds like a really shitty poll question.

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Esrac
10/22/21 8:51:08 AM
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The number is so much higher than every other statistics that I've seen, that I can only assume it is faulty. Or at least suspect.
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KamenRiderBlade
10/22/21 8:51:54 AM
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Esrac posted...
The number is so much higher than every other statistics that I've seen, that I can only assume it is faulty. Or at least suspect.
That's why I posted the Gallup reported stats which are far more accurate and based off a larger sample size.

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CloudThunder
10/22/21 8:59:52 AM
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its all that matters in america,so its kind of expected.

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NatsuSama
10/22/21 9:11:51 AM
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Too much merit in voluntary polls again....

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HylianFox
10/22/21 10:40:50 PM
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Mizznox posted...
lol, this is some ridiculous shit

It always amuses me when religious people are all "why doesn't anybody like God anymore?"

Have you tried looking in a mirror?

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sabrestorm
10/22/21 10:41:15 PM
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Popularity

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Tyranthraxus
10/22/21 10:43:37 PM
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toyota posted...
https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-40-percent-us-gen-zs-30-percent-christians-identify-lgbtq-poll-shows-1641085

Is this nature or nurture at work? Why didnt it seem that high with previous generations even if you factored in closeted people?

Neither. People are just more comfortable admitting it now. It's like people trying to pinpoint the rise in autism rates. They're not rising. They're just getting more diagnoses. For decades you were just "the weird shy kid in class"

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Tyranthraxus
10/22/21 10:49:39 PM
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Woozul posted...
Yup. Not as much for women though; getting an actual diagnosis can take years, if you get one at all.
There's a huge lingering mindset in the medical community that just leans towards not believing women's medical complaints. IDK why but so many women seem to have this problem and getting female doctors doesn't seem to help much & can make it worse in some cases (i.e. looking for tubal ligation in your teens / early 20s)


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HylianFox
10/22/21 10:50:45 PM
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Yeah, for the longest time women were just "hysterical" because of their lady parts
>_>

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ZannoL
10/22/21 10:53:37 PM
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Nikra
10/22/21 11:08:39 PM
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The LGBTQ is to aggressive for their own good. It's only a matter of time before the main people have had enough of their winning.

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tanis574
10/23/21 12:01:37 AM
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Nikra posted...
The LGBTQ is to aggressive for their own good. It's only a matter of time before the main people have had enough of their winning.

They're basically the new Bible thumpers.
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Machete
10/23/21 12:28:00 AM
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HylianFox posted...
Yeah, for the longest time women were just "hysterical" because of their lady parts
>_>

and it gets darker still

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Tyranthraxus
10/23/21 12:57:40 AM
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Machete posted...
and it gets darker still

Imaginary female trouble among other things.



So asking the real questions now, do you think you would be incarcerated for masturbation for 30 years or deranged masturbation?

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