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wackyteen
10/20/21 2:20:36 PM
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A drawing

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/10/19/aclu-10-year-old-girl-was-arrested-hawaii-public-school-drawing-picture-that-upset-parent/

HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - The Hawaii ACLU is demanding change from the state Department of Education and HPD following the arrest of a 10-year-old girl last year.
The incident happened last January at Honowai Elementary School in Waipahu.
The ACLU and an attorney for the family says the 10-year-old girls rights were violated when she was detained and questioned without her mom.
She was then handcuffed and brought to jail without being charged with a crime, the ACLU said.
Thats just straight up wrong, said ACLU of Hawaii Legal Director Wookie Kim. And theres nothing that condones or justifies that.
In a letter to the DOE and HPD, the ACLU said the girl identified as N.B. who has ADHD participated in drawing an offensive sketch of another student in response to being bullied.
The next day, a parent of one of the kids who received this drawing, was very upset and essentially demanded that they call the police, said attorney Mateo Caballero, who is representing the student and her mother.
Hawaii News Now asked to see the drawing, but was denied.
We dont want it to be about the drawing, said Cabellero. This is about a 10-year-old Black girl who was arrested and there was no reason to believe that she was violent.
She didnt bring any any weapons to school, she didnt make any explicit threats to anyone.
The ACLU said the school also detained the students mother, Tamara Taylor, in a room and would not let her see her daughter.
Taylor said officers told her that they were negotiating with a parent about the matter involving her daughter, and that she wasnt allowed to speak with her.
N.B. should have been allowed to be with her parent who was sequestered in another room in the same school at that very time as police officers were interrogating 10-year-old N.B., said Kim.
A few days after the incident, Taylor delivered a grievance letter to the school and Leeward District Complex Area Superintendent Keith Hui, which stated in part:
Although I was at Honowai Elementary, I was not told that my daughter was removed from the premises, handcuffed in front of staff and her peers, placed into a squad car and taken away.
I was stripped of my rights as a parent and my daughter was stripped of her right to protection and representation as a minor. There was no understanding of diversity, African-American culture and the history of police involvement with African-American youth. My daughter and I are traumatized from these events and Im disheartened to know that this day will live with my daughter forever.
N.B. was released to her mother at the Pearl City Police Station.
The HPD followed the proper protocol, but we must remember that the DOE is the complainant in this situation, said retired federal agent Tommy Aiu. Theyre the ones that called HPD.
HPD must act on the complaint levied by the school and thats why the child was taken into technical custody to the station then released to her parents.
The ACLU said based on the comments made by officers that day, they believe N.B. was taken to the station because she wasnt taking the situation seriously after she made a comment wondering what jail would be like.
And for the consequence to be getting handcuffed because you express yourself in a way that maybe you didnt realize, offended someone or harm someone else that is not the solution, said Kim.
The ACLU is demanding the DOE and HPD adopt policies like forbidding staff to call police unless imminent threat of significant harm is presented and to consult with a school counselor before calling.
They also want it mandatory for a parent or guardian to be present when a minor is being questioned.
Those kind of things should happen and get resolved at the school level because again, the pipeline to prison is not a good methodology, said Aiu. Absent of an actual threat, the school should try and work out, maybe a better way, a better path for the child.
The DOE has said it does not have a comment in response to the letter.
HPD says its working with city attorneys to address the allegations.

I don't fucking care if she drew a graphic bloody scene featuring said parent by fucking name, there's no reason to arrest a child AND THEN REFUSE TO LET THEIR PARENT BE FUCKING PRESENT.

As soon as the cops were called, the mom should have been called and briefed on the situation.

Ffs.

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Ratchetrockon
10/20/21 2:21:23 PM
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Damn wtf.


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C_Pain
10/20/21 2:22:56 PM
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What the fuck? Why would the school call the police?

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kingdrake2
10/20/21 2:25:57 PM
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C_Pain posted...
Why would the school call the police?


from what i'm reading it all started from a "karen". if she didn't complain to call the cops it wouldn't of happened.

i still think it was too extreme over a drawing (should've been handled differently).
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SSJPurple
10/20/21 2:26:02 PM
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This is wrong on every level.

wackyteen posted...
there's no reason to arrest a child AND THEN REFUSE TO LET THEIR PARENT BE FUCKING PRESENT.

As soon as the cops were called, the mom should have been called and briefed on the situation.

Exactly. How does one even properly question a 10 year old who probably doesnt even understand their rights.

What kind of scum bag cuffs a 10 year old and puts them in a squad carthen again these are the same people who shoot the family chihuahua and claim they were scared

Scum

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gunplagirl
10/20/21 2:39:13 PM
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Detaining a minor without charging them and speaking to them without a parent present? Well now, that's an open and shut settlement with the city.

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wackyteen
10/20/21 4:30:36 PM
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I just can't wrap my head around this.

Makes no sense.

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eston
10/20/21 4:32:59 PM
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What_
10/20/21 4:34:32 PM
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That Karen bitch ratted on the child needs to have her children taken away from her
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Solution_45
10/20/21 4:34:42 PM
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Wookie Kim

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wackyteen
10/20/21 4:35:24 PM
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@eston

https://www.law.hawaii.edu/person/wookie-kim

Real, actual person

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Cocytus
10/20/21 4:35:54 PM
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Good, hope that kid does a dime in solitary.
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thronedfire2
10/20/21 4:36:43 PM
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I hope they have pics of the drawing

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eston
10/20/21 4:37:00 PM
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NoxObscuras
10/20/21 4:43:55 PM
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I really want to see what the drawing is. The attorney doesn't want this to be about the drawing, but it's kind of late for that. The article says the drawing was in response to bullying. So was it a drawing showing that Karen's kid is a bully? Is that why she got so offended?

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YugiNoob
10/20/21 4:45:01 PM
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Yeah, I saw this on HNN and was like WTF IS THIS SHIT <_<

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Umbreon
10/20/21 4:48:47 PM
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I can think of about 1312 reasons why this should have never been allowed.

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Imit8m3
10/20/21 5:57:54 PM
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I'm not surprised. Hawaiians are the most racist people on earth. I was born there, I know.


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Zikten
10/20/21 6:03:35 PM
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Disgusting abuse of rights. Those cops deserve to be fired
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nothanks1
10/20/21 6:07:36 PM
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Perhaps the child could stop being Black?

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Smackems
10/20/21 6:09:24 PM
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Cocytus posted...
Good, hope that kid does a dime in solitary.
Lol

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modena
10/20/21 6:12:23 PM
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I saw that this morning and wtf!? Lol

P.s. I got my HS diploma in Waipahu back in '07 before I joined the Army. (Couldn't afford to move back stateside)

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Sir Will
10/20/21 6:13:58 PM
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wackyteen posted...
They also want it mandatory for a parent or guardian to be present when a minor is being questioned.
It's not!?

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sabrestorm
10/20/21 6:17:23 PM
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I hope a judge rips them a new one and makes them pay the parents a few million and forces a rule change

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Kami_no_Kami
10/20/21 6:27:54 PM
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Dang. Clicking on this topic I would have thought itd be a scare-your-kid-straight type of situation with the parent involved.

I dont even understand how this would happen without the parents. It wouldve required multiple people at the school, any officers involved and the parent of the bully to all make ridiculously stupid decisions.

Im guessing the picture probably involved a threat of violence to get this type of response, but it still shouldve been solved at the school (or, if outside, at a therapists office) and the girls parents 100% should have been involved.
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Back_Stabbath
10/20/21 6:30:16 PM
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(not the offending one from the OP, kid drawings are just hilarious)

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justaguy3492
10/20/21 6:32:04 PM
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I need darkprince to explain to me why the cops are actually in the right here and why we just don't understand policing.

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modena
10/20/21 6:34:23 PM
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justaguy3492 posted...
I need darkprince to explain to me why the cops are actually in the right here and why we just don't understand policing.
Awww shit

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Bishop9800
10/20/21 6:41:27 PM
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justaguy3492 posted...
I need darkprince to explain to me why the cops are actually in the right here and why we just don't understand policing.

@darkprince45

Care to explain......

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