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MachineJaipur
10/08/21 8:42:33 AM
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https://news.yahoo.com/texas-school-shooting-gunman-released-094139218.html

The 18-year-old suspect who opened fire at a high school in Arlington, Texas, was granted bail and ordered to stay away from the institution as well from those who were injured in the incident, his attorney said on Thursday.
Kim T Cole, the civil rights lawyer representing Timothy George Simpkins, insisted the case was not a standard-issue school shooting.
There are numerous school shootings that have occurred across this country which are tragic. All school shootings are tragic. However, in this situation, this was not someone who was just out to go and shoot a school and had made up their mind [and said] You know hey Im upset and Im just going to shoot anyone I see, Ms Cole told the media.
I request the media correct their narrative with regard to what happened, and that you all respect the familys privacy, she said, as Mr Simpkins was escorted from the jailhouse by two relatives.
Theres a distinction between a mass shooting and a school shooting these are people who are out to shoot multiple people and thats not what happened.
Several social media videos of the incident showed students running for cover, after a fight broke out and a student opened fire inside a classroom at the Timberview High School, injuring four people.
Mr Simpkins, identified as the suspect, had fled the scene, but was taken into custody hours later. He will now be under house arrest, according to local news channel WFAA. He will also submit to drug and alcohol testing and wear a GPS monitoring device.
The court ordered Mr Simpkins, charged with three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, to stay away from the school and the people who were injured in the shooting.
Mr Simpkinss family had earlier said he was a target of bullying and also claimed he acted after being robbed and attacked by bullies.
Mr Simpkins was painted as a menace to our society and nothing could be further from the truth, said a lengthy Facebook post made on Thursday by an unnamed Simpkins family spokesperson. The comments were attributed to Mr Simpkinss mother and grandmother, reported local newspaper Fort-Worth Star Telegram.

He has never been known to bother anyone and would do anything to help someone in need.
From the beginning of this school year, Timothy has been bullied at school. He has been beaten, taunted, and harassed on a daily basis. Recently he was ambushed by a group of young males outside of school, stripped of his clothing in front of a crowd of onlookers, and robbed of his money and possessions. He has been humiliated and stripped of his dignity on more than one occasion which led to him being fearful to go to school or even leave our home without an adult, the post further said.
It laid out Mr Simpkinss early childhood, claiming he had became depressed and some days did not even want to get out of bed. I am certain that he was fearful for his safety and felt that he had no support from those in authority whose responsibility it was to protect him.
Mr Simpkinss father was brutally beaten to death and that this definitely heightened Timothys fear for his life.
Many of you have seen the video of the brutal beating Timothy received he never even returned a blow he simply balled up and covered his head, the post said. The alleged bullying he faced were brought to schools attention, but no action was taken, the Facebook post said.
Not to mention that the young men responsible for beating and harassing him recently made threats to kill him so you see, my son was terrified and believed he would be murdered just like his father.
Meanwhile, Mansfield school district associate superintendent of communications Donald Williams told local media that it was not ascertained yet if bullying could be cited as a reason for the shooting and said investigations into the incident will continue.
The entire situation will be assessed and evaluated and for us as a district. Were always looking at ways in which we can improve and get better. We have law enforcement officers on every single one of our campuses, I think thats important for the community to know, he said.
Mr Williams added that the students involved in the incident will be dealt with in accordance to our Student Code of Conduct, and thats the way that whole process is handled.

Only in America do you need to differentiate your types of school shootings
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J03can
10/08/21 8:44:15 AM
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America is beyond fixing

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Jagr_68
10/08/21 8:46:06 AM
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Texas is a 3rd world shithole.

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/08/21 8:50:07 AM
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From the beginning of this school year, Timothy has been bullied at school. He has been beaten, taunted, and harassed on a daily basis. Recently he was ambushed by a group of young males outside of school, stripped of his clothing in front of a crowd of onlookers, and robbed of his money and possessions.

I am 100 percent not justifying what happened. Dude should be in jail.

But holy shit. Why didn't the school do anything?

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g0ldie
10/08/21 8:50:47 AM
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tbh, learning more about the story, I'm feeling more sympathetic towards the shooter.

apparently, he was heavily bullied and beaten, and before the shooting, there's a video of him that went viral of him getting beaten up.

and it seems he was also robbed at gunpoint by the bullies before, and his dad was also killed by being beaten to death, or something like that.

but yea, he shouldn't have started shooting at people, and I think a bystander accidentally got hit and a pregnant woman fell, so it was a fucked up situation all together.

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TheChariot
10/08/21 8:51:38 AM
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...

I am 100 percent not justifying what happened. Dude should be in jail.

But holy shit. Why didn't the school do anything?

Do you... not know how public school works?
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Mr_Karate_II
10/08/21 8:52:40 AM
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The school could have prevented this, the shooter wasn't right for what he did however the school never bothered to do anything about him getting bullied and beaten.


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CableZL
10/08/21 8:52:57 AM
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Public schools won't do anything until someone dies. Then they'll try to shift blame.

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trappedunderice
10/08/21 8:55:55 AM
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When you see a grown ass man make a new ass account just for current events gamefaqs...
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/08/21 8:56:18 AM
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TheChariot posted...
Do you... not know how public school works?

I mean I graduated as the whole 0 tolerance policy thing was becoming the norm. So while I have my experience that ended almost 20 years ago I don't know how it works today. Which is why I asked the question.


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Dat_Cracka_Jax
10/08/21 8:58:12 AM
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CableZL posted...
Public schools won't do anything until someone dies. Then they'll try to shift blame.
They need to be held financially responsible for the role their indifference and inaction plays

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gatorsPENSbucs
10/08/21 9:01:14 AM
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What the fuck

and people here defending the attempted murderer

what

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pogo_rabid
10/08/21 9:01:53 AM
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A black school shooter in Texas got bail? Honestly i'm surprised.

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Unknown5uspect
10/08/21 9:06:15 AM
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MachineJaipur posted...
Mr Simpkins was painted as a menace to our society and nothing could be further from the truth,
If you get into an argument so heated that you pull out a gun and start shooting people, you're a fucking menace to society.

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Middle hope
10/08/21 9:06:38 AM
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I wish they could nail him with a terrorism charge and file him away for eternity

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pogo_rabid
10/08/21 9:07:56 AM
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Unknown5uspect posted...
If you get into an argument so heated that you pull out a gun and start shooting people, you're a fucking menace to society.


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Slayerblade11
10/08/21 9:11:10 AM
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Yeah if he really got bullied that badly i feel sorry for him but he had absolutely no consideration for the innocent bystanders he hurt when he lashed out with the gun still makes him on the whole unsympathetic
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g0ldie
10/08/21 9:12:24 AM
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Unknown5uspect posted...
If you get into an argument so heated that you pull out a gun and start shooting people, you're a fucking menace to society.
it wasn't an argument, he was being beaten up, and according to his defense, which was a part of a long line of bullying.

here is the beating that led to him shooting (he's the dude being beaten up):

https://streamable.com/qq1142

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UnfairRepresent
10/08/21 9:12:26 AM
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How the hell was he offered bail?

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GiftedACIII
10/08/21 9:25:14 AM
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MachineJaipur posted...
Theres a distinction between a mass shooting and a school shooting

Legit a sentence you'd only see in America.
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emblem boy
10/08/21 9:26:39 AM
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MachineJaipur posted...
He will now be under house arrest, according to local news channel WFAA. He will also submit to drug and alcohol testing and wear a GPS monitoring device.


Seems fine to me.
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DeadBankerDream
10/08/21 9:27:00 AM
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I feel like it's bad lawyering to tell the public that your client did it before you and he has decided on a legal strategy.

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pogo_rabid
10/08/21 9:28:54 AM
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emblem boy posted...
Seems fine to me.
If he came from a wealthy family you would be calling for blood crying "affluenza"

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Fony
10/08/21 9:31:48 AM
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Looking at the facts of the case, I'm not as angry as i was yesterday. this wasn't some angry at the world entitlted loser shooting randoms to vent his frustration at not gettinng laid or some other stupid reason. He was legit being destroyed for a long, long time. he got pretty savagely beaten beforhand. schools not punishing bullies, this kind of shooting will happen more often. I know school+gun=bad but this was clearly to defend himself and he should never have had to go this far to do that.

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UnfairRepresent
10/08/21 9:32:31 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
I feel like it's bad lawyering to tell the public that your client did it before you and he has decided on a legal strategy.
If you have bad facts it's often better to get ahead of them then simply deny them.

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/08/21 9:33:42 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
I feel like it's bad lawyering to tell the public that your client did it before you and he has decided on a legal strategy.

I'm not a lawyer but I would think it might depend on your strategy. It seems to me they will be going with the "he did it because he was bullied" angle. If everyone who saw the shooter said "oh it was this dude" you can't really try to defend yourself with the Shaggy defense of "it wasn't me"

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DeadBankerDream
10/08/21 9:34:02 AM
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Insanely dumb, penis-shaped post from Unfair.


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emblem boy
10/08/21 9:35:04 AM
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pogo_rabid posted...
emblem boy posted...
Seems fine to me.
If he came from a wealthy family you would be calling for blood crying "affluenza"


No. I'm very rigid in my stance that the criminal just system needs to change and one of those ways is in regards to the bail system. If you can show that they'll be monitored and won't be doing any other crimes, then don't fucking put people in prison for who knows how long, before they face trial.
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Kitt
10/08/21 9:36:22 AM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Legit a sentence you'd only see in America.
Yeah, that was incredibly dumb wording on her part. I guess the point she's trying to get across is -- there's a difference between someone coming to school with a gun to shoot at specific targets while indirectly hurting bystanders in the process vs. someone going to the school and just blasting at everyone they see.

Neither of these makes what he did any better or worse.

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Fony
10/08/21 9:36:40 AM
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This was clearly an attempt at self defense, and he didn't hunt down random people. That's why he got bail with no fusss at all.

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Tropicalwood
10/08/21 9:39:27 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
I feel like it's bad lawyering to tell the public that your client did it before you and he has decided on a legal strategy.
He's not trying to convince the court his client magically didn't shoot a bunch of people, he's trying to convince them that it was in self-defense and get a lighter sentence if not an exoneration.

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chrono625
10/08/21 9:49:48 AM
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The reason why schools dont punish bullies is because

the parents of the bullies dont care or dont believe their child is a bully.

suspension and expulsion to kids who already at risk behavioral wise doesnt do anything but put them into worse situations.

the major problem I have is that in self defense the schools having a zero tolerance policy is bullshit and probably why this kid did what he finally did.

you cant defend yourself without being punished either.

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gatorsPENSbucs
10/08/21 9:54:32 AM
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Slayerblade11 posted...
he had absolutely no consideration for the innocent bystanders he hurt when he lashed out with the gun still makes him on the whole unsympathetic
Yup.

Its really not surprising people here are taking his side, its pretty sad though.

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Cocytus
10/08/21 9:55:13 AM
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That's crazy
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Orosuke
10/08/21 9:57:33 AM
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I don't condone what he did, but I understand why. If he was getting jumped and beaten multiple times, robbed at gunpoint, and stripped in public and the school doesn't do anything, it's understandable a kid would feel the need to go to the extreme to defend himself.

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AwesomeFawful
10/08/21 10:02:31 AM
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MachineJaipur posted...
Theres a distinction between a mass shooting and a school shooting these are people who are out to shoot multiple people and thats not what happened
I hate literally everything right this minute........

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pojr
10/08/21 10:04:24 AM
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did one really cause the other? seems like this guy already had some serious issues, and the bullying had very little to do with it

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Samurontai
10/08/21 10:11:55 AM
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People in here really defending a school shooter.

It's satire, right?

Right?

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BlueTigerLion
10/08/21 10:13:52 AM
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Why are people shocked this happened in New York and California all the time. Rapists, murders, etc are back on the streets within 24 hours.

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Samurontai
10/08/21 10:17:58 AM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
Why are people shocked this happened in New York and California all the time. Rapists, murders, etc are back on the streets within 24 hours.

You realize this happened in Texas, right?

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chrono625
10/08/21 10:20:02 AM
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Samurontai posted...
People in here really defending a school shooter.

It's satire, right?

Right?

i mean - if theres a reason why someone did something its best to know about it and see if the root of the issue could have curbed prior to the act. So you dont have to justify his actions, but you also dont have to ignore the why.

so if he was being viciously bullied and beaten and it could have been prevented maybe the fucking school systems can stop pretending it doesnt exist and stop punishing the victims of bullying as well.

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skermac
10/08/21 10:22:04 AM
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Schools need to act swiftly in alll cases of bullying, this could have been prevented

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Samurontai
10/08/21 10:22:34 AM
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chrono625 posted...
i mean - if theres a reason why someone did something its best to know about it and see if the root of the issue could have curbed prior to the act. So you dont have to justify his actions, but you also dont have to ignore the why.

so if he was being viciously bullied and beaten and it could have been prevented maybe the fucking school systems can stop pretending it doesnt exist and stop punishing the victims of bullying as well.

I mean, we can do that without justifying the actions of a school shooter LMAO.

What is wrong with you guys, holy shit.

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BlueTigerLion
10/08/21 10:23:27 AM
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Samurontai posted...
You realize this happened in Texas, right?

It isnt a story when it happens in NYC/LA. Dont see why it is a big deal in Texas. I remember hearing one guy had 50 robberies in NYC and kept getting let out despite there also being an attempted murder cases on him during the crime spree.

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MrKapowski
10/08/21 10:24:40 AM
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Good for him for defending himself

Too bad it had to come to that, his family should absolutely sue the pants off that school

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MachineJaipur
10/08/21 10:25:02 AM
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Samurontai posted...
I mean, we can do that without justifying the actions of a school shooter LMAO.

What is wrong with you guys, holy shit.
Is anyone justifying it though?

Everybody agrees what he did was fucked up and he should not have done it at all
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Samurontai
10/08/21 10:26:08 AM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
It isnt a story when it happens in NYC/LA. Dont see why it is a big deal in Texas. I remember hearing one guy had 50 robberies in NYC and kept getting let out despite there also being an attempted murder cases on him during the crime spree.

You are comparing a school shooter, who was out to kill people, to a non violent robber who used notes to rob people.

Like, why? Also, he was apparently arrested and jailed.

https://nypost.com/2020/01/17/bail-reform-bank-robber-surrenders-inside-nyc-courthouse/

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LeadPipeCinche
10/08/21 10:27:35 AM
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Not saying the bullying is right but a teenager this day & age. Did he say something that instigated getting himself picked on. I mean he's a teenager, he's got a mouth..they spout off all time.
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Questionmarktarius
10/08/21 10:27:42 AM
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
But holy shit. Why didn't the school do anything?
Because, extraterritorial jurisdiction is inherently bullshit. Report the assault to the police, not the school principal.
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chrono625
10/08/21 10:29:43 AM
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Samurontai posted...
I mean, we can do that without justifying the actions of a school shooter LMAO.

What is wrong with you guys, holy shit.

very few, if any, are justifying it.

but ignoring the bullying and assault prior to the shooting is largely ignored here. Which was the crux of my post. That you ignored.

if everything his family and attorney are saying is true then it clearly stands to reason had it been stopped sooner it would have never come to this and if that video was him being beaten again and pulled a gun to defend himself then you can see why prevention is very important.

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