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seems to be a popular opinion nowadays that oblivion was better but i'm not seeing it

KhlavicLanguage posted...

seems to be a popular opinion nowadays that oblivion was better

[Citation needed.]

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The Dark Brotherhood.

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yeah i played skyrim for hundreds of hours

i played oblivion for like 2 hours before i went back to skyrim
rose tinted glasses i guess

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Less handholding and more unique quests instead of trying to rely on their new system for infinite quests, imo.

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It had Dive Rock, and Skyrim didn't

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Everything.

More quests.
Better quest storylines.
Was a bigger leap in quality from Morrowind than Skyrim was from Oblivion.
Kept a lot of the lore and associated gameplay mechanics that made the game fun (like needing to use silver or magic on ghosts).

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Hexenherz posted...

Everything.

More quests.
Better quest storylines.
Was a bigger leap in quality from Morrowind than Skyrim was from Oblivion.
Kept a lot of the lore and associated gameplay mechanics that made the game fun (like needing to use silver or magic on ghosts).

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bait thread? Oblivion was way well more received than Skyrim. Morrowind has a very good reputation too.

The quests are significantly better and more varied, especially for the guilds

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I prefer Skyrim but as others said, the quests, especially the guilds.

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Subject of the Night: Last Minute Changes, Replay Value, the Tried & True method, and how to handle the first moments of gameplay.

I feel like it did everything better barring the scaling level cap and the environmental variations.

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furb posted...

I feel like it did everything better barring the scaling level cap and the environmental variations.

Somehow I think it worked better at the end of the day, eh? Skyrim just sucks the life out of Oblivion, in terms of immersion. Oblivion already has some problems with flatness & repetition in that regard tho, yes. Skyrim wasnt nearly as magical or coherent. Honestly.

Ive played countless of hours in Skyrim and really enjoyed it overall.

I just started Oblivion for the first time ever about a month or two ago, and Im already loving it way more. Better writing in its quests and I just like its RPG mechanics a lot more than the watered down mainstream mechanics of Skyrim. The less hand holding and overall greater difficulty is a lot of fun too.

^bada bing bada boom^

It has a cooler name.

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Man I never even finished Skyrim, I must have played 1000 hours and just stopped one day

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Sidequests and DLC for sure.

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Once youve seen one dragon youve seen them all.

Enemy variety & bosses

Zeus posted...

[Citation needed.]

yknow sometimes it's possible to just have a conversation

I found the combat less tolerable in Skyrim

like, if you never mastered Oblivion, it was fun... but if youd already done that, aside from the Dragonborn powers (which were what they were. And usually are). It was just the same stuff and this particular stuff isnt worth it. Neither was Morrowind nor Daggerfall

in this case Skyrim loses points BECAUSE it did the same thing as Oblvion but better lol

DavidZ2844 posted...

Ive played countless of hours in Skyrim and really enjoyed it overall.

I just started Oblivion for the first time ever about a month or two ago, and Im already loving it way more. Better writing in its quests and I just like its RPG mechanics a lot more than the watered down mainstream mechanics of Skyrim. The less hand holding and overall greater difficulty is a lot of fun too.

Did you use any QoL mods? How do those factor into which one you prefer more?

I guess it could be considered a wash since both Skyrim and Oblivion have pretty good mod communities.

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Didn't get endlessly ported to everything and made a big deal of.

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Flevi posted...

Did you use any QoL mods? How do those factor into which one you prefer more?

I guess it could be considered a wash since both Skyrim and Oblivion have pretty good mod communities.

I did use a couple to be honest one in particular that made it so any skill increase (minimum of at least one) would make its given attribute be able to be increased +5 instead of 10 skill increases.

Thats pretty much it though, the rest were just bug fixes and such. I just didnt want to keep track of all my skill increases and micro manage everything like crazy, because other than that aspect I really like Oblivions leveling system.

Like others said, the quests, but also all that ambient music

All these things are just another part of that glorious thing which is everything.

Did Oblivion even have a big snow environment?

DavidZ2844 posted...

I did use a couple to be honest one in particular that made it so any skill increase (minimum of at least one) would make its given attribute be able to be increased +5 instead of 10 skill increases.

Thats pretty much it though, the rest were just bug fixes and such. I just didnt want to keep track of all my skill increases and micro manage everything like crazy, because other than that aspect I really like Oblivions leveling system.

what about vanilla vs vanilla, which one is better right out of the box

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Can you be the leader of every guild in Oblivion?
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St0rmFury posted...

Can you be the leader of every guild in Oblivion?

Do you want to be the leader of any guild in Skyrim?

Xethuminra posted...

St0rmFury posted...

Can you be the leader of every guild in Oblivion?

Do you want to be the leader of any guild in Skyrim?

I think the Companions are fine.
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Lets talk.

Every quest and thing that involves writing
Expansions
Isn't dumbed down in magic

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Irony posted...

Every quest and thing that involves writing
Expansions
Isn't dumbed down in magic

Replace magic with generic game powers

I think that both games aren't good. One is the king that I don't remember well what he was doing. But king are very problematic sometimes. For skyrim, it's a rebellion sir. The prisoner, which btw can be on the right side according to the player, after the escape, need to join a rebellion.


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Not a whole lot honestly? Oblivion and Skyrim share almost all of their worst problems and the good things that Oblivion does are mostly holdovers from Morrowind


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ultimate reaver posted...

Not a whole lot honestly? Oblivion and Skyrim share almost all of their worst problems and the good things that Oblivion does are mostly holdovers from Morrowind

Skyrims worst problem is its shitty radiant quests, which arent in Oblivion, so youre wrong.

What we need was a generation of games that played like Oblivion and were bigger and focused on VR with motion control......... Where the characters actually aged and all that good stuff.

..... you know what. Im scrapping the above message just to say that 4 is LEAGUES ahead of the entire TES series.

Thats what I mean by a generation of games like Oblivion

Pretty much everything, save combat and the persuasion mechanics.

That said, Skyrim is the one I still play to this day, as it plays much better and the numerous mods Skyrim now has easily makes up a lot of the issues/differences.

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You could enchant magic staffs with parameters on said magic. Jump progress.

My list for features in a future TES game would be:

• spell freedom from Morrowind
• questline detail from Oblivion
• world detail from Skyrim

That would draw upon the strengths from each title.

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• Guilds were more fun
• Quests were way more fun
• Had a central city world which was cool
• More enemy types

Don't get me wrong, it did an awful lot worse, but these were some definite things.

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Oblivion at the time was such an original experience. When Skyrim arrived I knew what to expect from a "Bethesda game" and have already seen most of the tricks at that point.

By technical measure Skyrim is the better game but I prefer Oblivion's flavor of fantasy. Unicorns, knights and goblins. Skyrim is just viking porn.

Oblivion was the game that got me into both PC gaming and modding so I have a deeper emotional investment to it, even though I sunk hours into playing and modding Skyrim.

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M_Live posted...

Tried to play it recently, definitely not the gsmeplay

Were you a summoner? and, why the hell not?

Xethuminra posted...

Were you a summoner? and, why the hell not?

Is a summoner the way to go in Oblivion? Im still early in the game so still deciding on and messing around on what my play style will be, I just know I want to use more magic in this game since I rarely used it in Skyrim

Flevi posted...

what about vanilla vs vanilla, which one is better right out of the box

Unfair and useless comparison since I will use mods either way, sorry pal

In Oblivion, you could create a spell to summon a creature while at the same time turning you invisible and therefore roleplay that you transformed into said creature.

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MC_BatCommander posted...

The quests are significantly better and more varied, especially for the guilds

This, but that is the only thing Oblivion is better than Skyrim at

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It had much more interesting quests, both one off quests and entire questlines. I also enjoy micromanaging my stats so losing out on the core 8 stats was a downgrade for me.

Combat and some dungeon designs were the only real improvements in skyrim.

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