Current Events > why do so many people treat Tesla's like rich people cars.

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The model 3 is only like 40k which is fairly affordable. Even the model S is only 90k which while not near as affordable for most isn't some high end price range.

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You kinda need to own a house to drive an electric car though

So it can be a status sign in big cities

*Only* 90k?

UndefeatedGOAT posted...

You kinda need to own a house to drive an electric car though

So it can be a status sign in big cities

You can rent a place and charge one. Even a lot of apartments have the option to charge one. Even then living in a house doesn't make you rich. That's middle class level

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Mid 30s is already luxury car territory

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Branding.

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CoolMaskGuy posted...

*Only* 90k?

That's the high end model and yeah thats not a lot. There's plenty of luxury cars in that price range or higher without near as much prestige to the average person

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They certainly aren't poor people cars.

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WaterLink posted...

They certainly aren't poor people cars.

Yrah but they're affordable by the middle class.
Which is far from rich imo

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Key posted...

Yrah but they're affordable by the middle class.
Which is far from rich imo

To the lower class and broke people they might as well be rich

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Even if I had forty thousand dollars, it'd be a waste. I have no place to charge it. It's a small town and they don't put outlets in the parking lots. Go figure.

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WaterLink posted...

To the lower class and broke people they might as well be rich

That's just poor people having a misunderstanding of what rich is.
Having more money than the poor doesn't make someone rich

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UndefeatedGOAT posted...

You kinda need to own a house to drive an electric car though

So it can be a status sign in big cities

Almost all apartment complexes in big cities have charging stations though.

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Key posted...

The model 3 is only like 40k which is fairly affordable.

It STARTS at $35k but by the time you add-on the things to make it useful (long range for instance) and add on taxes you'll be up to $45-50k. Which sure isn't super expensive but it's not cheap either. Self-driving is another $10k add-on.

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Because you have to invest a load into the charging for it, and most people don't have just a Tesla, they have one as a commuter and a car that runs on a gas engine besides. And until they make charging an electric car as convenient and fast as filling a fuel tank they'll just be rich people toyd. There is more to the cost of owning a Tesla than how much you pay at the dealer.

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Key posted...

That's just poor people having a misunderstanding of what rich is.
Having more money than the poor doesn't make someone rich

Its almost like wealth is relative. Crazy.

Also if you can afford a 90k car you're doing pretty damn well. Thats easily well into upper middle class territory.

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Key posted...

You can rent a place and charge one. Even a lot of apartments have the option to charge one. Even then living in a house doesn't make you rich. That's middle class level

Depends on if your in an area where a house > 1,000,000

I live one block from a Tesla charging station so I could conceivably go electric for my next car

Idk if Tesla is what I want though, hopefully the charges keep getting more universal

Crazyman93 posted...

Because you have to invest a load into the charging for it, and most people don't have just a Tesla, they have one as a commuter and a car that runs on a gas engine besides. And until they make charging an electric car as convenient and fast as filling a fuel tank they'll just be rich people toyd. There is more to the cost of owning a Tesla than how much you pay at the dealer.

Ehh. If you really don't drive a lot, you can get by with a regular 120v outlet that everyone has at home.
If your washer and dryer is in your garage, you can even use that outlet and get faster speeds.
Or if needed, you can get an electrician to help you set stuff up, but it won't be "a load". It will probably be under 2k I'd guess, and some states will have incentives to reduce that as well
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theAteam posted...

It STARTS at $35k but by the time you add-on the things to make it useful (long range for instance) and add on taxes you'll be up to $45-50k. Which sure isn't super expensive but it's not cheap either. Self-driving is another $10k add-on.

Which is completely affordable for the middle class.

CanuckCowboy posted...

Its almost like wealth is relative. Crazy.

Also if you can afford a 90k car you're doing pretty damn well. Thats easily well into upper middle class territory.

Yeah but upper middle class isn't rich.

Crazyman93 posted...

Because you have to invest a load into the charging for it, and most people don't have just a Tesla, they have one as a commuter and a car that runs on a gas engine besides. And until they make charging an electric car as convenient and fast as filling a fuel tank they'll just be rich people toyd. There is more to the cost of owning a Tesla than how much you pay at the dealer.

It's really not that bad. Tesla's are pretty common where I work and I wouldn't call a single person there rich. There all just middle to upper middle class

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emblem boy posted...

If your washer and dryer is in your garage, you can even use that outlet and get faster speeds.

lol wut, there's seperate outlets for those in America?

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Trumble posted...

lol wut, there's seperate outlets for those in America?

The outlets are often higher voltage

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Trumble posted...

lol wut, there's seperate outlets for those in America?

specifically for electric dryers, yes. they use a higher voltage.

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The cars (Model 3 and Y) aren't too outrageously priced compared to some other entry level luxury brands, but like...cars in general are pretty pricey these days. Those monthly payments add up.

Trumble posted...

emblem boy posted...
If your washer and dryer is in your garage, you can even use that outlet and get faster speeds.
lol wut, there's seperate outlets for those in America?

The outlet the washer/dryer is attached to is usually different than the standard outlet you'd plug a regular electronics into. Higher voltage and amperage.




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UndefeatedGOAT posted...

You kinda need to own a house to drive an electric car though

So it can be a status sign in big cities

I bought my Model S when I lived in an apartment. I quickly got a garage with a power outlet I could use to charge it, though. Before that, I would just go to the supercharger station down the block. I moved there specifically because it was near a supercharger and I knew I'd be buying the car soon after moving in.

I have a house now, though, an it's much better overall... But pretty much the same as having that garage. I just have more space now.

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12000 watts each hour of charging at the top end.

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