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Damar
09/06/21 9:33:14 AM
#304:


CyricZ posted...
Your childish revenge fantasies have absolutely laid you bare. It's made you assume that I give two figs about the dead man.

Ultimately I don't. He made his bed.

I care about a society that thinks it gets to decide when someone should be pre-meditatively killed. I'm against the death penalty. I'm against revenge vigilantism. I don't budge on that, and I never will.

And the specific people celebrating this man's actions are showing us all who they are. That they believe they have a point where they're allowed to pre-meditatively kill someone and believe they should not only avoid consequences but be celebrated. Would they ever actually do it? Probably not, but they're convincing themselves there's a point.

Murder. Fantasy.

As the man once said:

Your boos mean nothing when I've seen what makes you cheer.

Except I have never once said he should have been murdered or wrote any revenge fantasties about how he should be murdered. In fact I looked at ways the killer could either be tried by the system and ultimately freed or declared unfit to stand trial and therefore not criminally responsible for his actions.
I think him spending anytime in prison would be a travesty and I'm sure most of Russian people agree with me which is why it won't happen.
What he did was a crime and murder but given the circumstances I believe we can acknowledge the crime without punishing the father who needs to be there for his daughter one of the true victims in this.
Your high handed moralizing on the backs of raped children is pretty low to be honest.
And you show no signs of stopping your distasteful provacating
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teep_
09/06/21 9:35:03 AM
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If only Cyric displayed this amount of conviction in his beliefs when confronted with racism irl, amirite?
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One_Day_Remains
09/06/21 9:36:21 AM
#306:


Cyric have you ever wondered why people are going so much harder on you than they are on other people who have also expressed disagreement with the dad's actions

Like, you'll notice nobody's talking shit about Funkydog and ScazarMeltex. Wonder why.
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CyricZ
09/06/21 9:37:29 AM
#307:


Damar posted...
Except I have never once said

Damar posted...
My takeaway from it was why didn't they kill the son of a bitch sooner.

And that's all I need to say to you.

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CyricZ
09/06/21 9:39:53 AM
#308:


teep_ posted...
If only Cyric displayed this amount of conviction in his beliefs when confronted with racism irl, amirite?
Go ahead dude. Tell the class the context.

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Damar
09/06/21 9:45:01 AM
#309:


CyricZ posted...
And that's all I need to say to you.

Except I wasn't talking about this case genius.
That one has a completely different dynamic.
One that easily put it in the grounds of self defense.
So try again.
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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 9:50:33 AM
#310:


DocDelicious posted...


He's got a young girl as his avatar, it ain't that fucking weird.


Lmaooo I just fucking saw that shit
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CyricZ
09/06/21 9:55:26 AM
#311:


Damar posted...
Except I wasn't talking about this case genius.
That one has a completely different dynamic.
One that easily put it in the grounds of self defense.
So try again.
Okay fair enough. I had to go through that whole damn thing, but you're right on that one and I'm sorry. So it's not you.

But it is other people here. If you want to be their advocate, that's your call.

You still assumed I cared for the criminal in this case (I don't) and you assumed when I called out non-specific people that you were one of them (apparently not) so what's the issue.

I mean look at them. They're making fun of my icon and claiming I don't actually have a girlfriend. You wanna go to bat for that?

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DezDroppedFreak
09/06/21 9:57:23 AM
#312:


Look at THEM says the guy who was equally antagonistic

bro you came in hot then got mad when you were met with the same energy

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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 9:58:10 AM
#313:


Cyric is the anime girl in your profile pic actually a 5000 year old dragon witch?
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ZevLoveDOOM
09/06/21 10:00:30 AM
#314:


if i found out my friend raped my daughter, guaranteed i would be pissed.

so yeah, i dont blame this dude for what he did...
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One_Day_Remains
09/06/21 10:03:52 AM
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I didn't claim anything, I just asked a question. Your posting history in regards to dating tends to suggest you're pretty socially oblivious so it sounded like a plausibility.
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Damar
09/06/21 10:07:10 AM
#316:


CyricZ posted...
Okay fair enough. I had to go through that whole damn thing, but you're right on that one and I'm sorry. So it's not you.

But it is other people here. If you want to be their advocate, that's your call.

You still assumed I cared for the criminal in this case (I don't) and you assumed when I called out non-specific people that you were one of them (apparently not) so what's the issue.

I mean look at them. They're making fun of my icon and claiming I don't actually have a girlfriend. You wanna go to bat for that?

And yet you have deliberately worded your posts to draw this type of reaction.
There were other ways you could have put your case across without the deliberately provactive language you used. Many others have done so.
You have drawn the reaction you have desired and now playing the martyr after getting what you wanted is a bit rich.
These cases are always going to be emotional.But you have really not helped matters here.Just willfully and gleefully fanned the embers of outrage to roaring flames.
Good job I suppose.
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CyricZ
09/06/21 10:08:08 AM
#317:


DezDroppedFreak posted...
you realize it would have cost zero dollars to not post again in the thread right
Yep. You're right. I'm living that and taking those consequences.

And I admit I came in hot. And it paid off, but "wanting to be right" is an illness, and it's not a good way to spend a day off.

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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 10:09:20 AM
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And it paid off,


I assure you it didn't
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Lokison
09/06/21 10:19:53 AM
#319:


CyricZ posted...
"wanting to be right" is an illness, and it's not a good way to spend a day off.
And yet, here you are. You literally just insulted yourself bud.

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Gwynevere
09/06/21 10:20:28 AM
#320:


One_Day_Remains posted...
It's actually mad weird that cyric woke up and immediately decided to return to this topic lol
This thread is the gift that keeps on giving

Shezarr posted...
Gee wonder why Covxy and Cyric are so upset ITT

Pretty much all the parents I know would absolutely do the same thing in this man's position. I don't doubt that for one second.


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DezDroppedFreak
09/06/21 10:30:00 AM
#321:


CyricZ posted...
Yep. You're right. I'm living that and taking those consequences.

And I admit I came in hot. And it paid off, but "wanting to be right" is an illness, and it's not a good way to spend a day off.

In what way is this paying off

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Lokison
09/06/21 10:31:47 AM
#322:


DezDroppedFreak posted...
In what way is this paying off
Maybe his fetish is being called out on the internet. Maybe hes making his keyboard really sticky.

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CyricZ
09/06/21 10:38:38 AM
#323:


Lokison posted...
And yet, here you are. You literally just insulted yourself bud.
Yes that was my point. I was directing that at myself in this context.

DezDroppedFreak posted...
In what way is this paying off
Only that it made me believe I was right. Which is what makes it so hollow.

Hope everyone has a good Labor Dabor. I'm gonna put this topic on Hide.

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Damar
09/06/21 11:02:32 AM
#324:


CyricZ posted...
Yes that was my point. I was directing that at myself in this context.

Only that it made me believe I was right. Which is what makes it so hollow.

Hope everyone has a good Labor Dabor. I'm gonna put this topic on Hide.

Finally a touch of rationality comes through.
Best post you've made in the thread
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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/06/21 11:03:53 AM
#325:


Gwynevere posted...
This thread is the gift that keeps on giving


"Weird hill to die on" essentially means "you're correct, but I'm too much of a pussy to endorse the position because what would people think?!"

Be better.

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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 11:10:06 AM
#327:


Woozul posted...
Hilarious that posters who would normally agree with certain mindsets are disagreeing because of the username. So fucking juvenile


Also hilarious that posters who would normally agree with certain mindsets are doing a complete 180 in a thread about a father killing his daughter's rapist. I've seen some users argue in favor of very anarchy-esque takes before. All of a sudden they are "LAW AND ORDER'
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One_Day_Remains
09/06/21 11:16:23 AM
#329:


WeeWeiWiiWie posted...


"Weird hill to die on" essentially means "you're correct, but I'm too much of a pussy to endorse the position because what would people think?!"

Be better.


Like I told CyricZ just a few minutes ago, you realize Funkydog expressed the same sentiment and yet no one is saying anything about her?

It might be because of how poorly you two have conducting yourselves ITT in comparison
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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/06/21 11:22:52 AM
#330:


One_Day_Remains posted...
Like I told CyricZ just a few minutes ago, you realize Funkydog expressed the same sentiment and yet no one is saying anything about her?

It might be because of how poorly you two have conducting yourselves ITT in comparison

When a bunch of people who otherwise are reasonable people say "nah, it's cool to kill people if they're really undesirable"

you don't confront it with:
"Eh, well, all sides have merits, but I disagree with you"

I feel no need to pretend like I respect the opposing position because it would be seen as more "respectable".

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Zodd3224
09/06/21 11:23:40 AM
#331:


"Really undesirable" he says.

What a clown.

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Gwynevere
09/06/21 11:27:23 AM
#332:


WeeWeiWiiWie posted...
"Weird hill to die on" essentially means "you're correct, but I'm too much of a pussy to endorse the position because what would people think?!"

Be better.
I don't wanna hear shit about being better from someone that couldn't articulate their opinion on the subject without being on a horse so high they're suffering from oxygen deprivation

I don't think you're correct about this one. I'm firmly in the camp of "pedophile scum got what was coming to him". And I think it's an incredibly naive and sheltered mindset to think that certain actions don't earn someone a place in the ground.

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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/06/21 11:30:07 AM
#333:


Gwynevere posted...
I don't wanna hear shit about being better from someone that couldn't articulate their opinion on the subject without being on a horse so high they're suffering from oxygen deprivation

I don't think you're correct about this one. I'm firmly in the camp of "pedophile scum got what was coming to him". And I think it's an incredibly naive and sheltered mindset to think that certain actions don't earn someone a place in the ground.

It's cool. You can throw your morals away when it appeals to your baser emotions. Just don't pretend like anybody needs to respect you for it.

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One_Day_Remains
09/06/21 11:30:18 AM
#334:


WeeWeiWiiWie posted...


When a bunch of people who otherwise are reasonable people say "nah, it's cool to kill people if they're really undesirable"

you don't confront it with:
"Eh, well, all sides have merits, but I disagree with you"

I feel no need to pretend like I respect the opposing position because it would be seen as more "respectable".


There's absolute merit to being so angry about your child getting raped that you'd want to kill the perpetrator

Just like there's merit to it not being the right thing to do for reasons ScazarMeltex outlined earlier
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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/06/21 11:32:18 AM
#335:


One_Day_Remains posted...
There's absolute merit to being so angry about your child getting raped that you'd want to kill the perpetrator

I can obviously empathize and understand it. Doesn't mean I would endorse it as morally correct. A behavior can be understandable and morally wrong, you know.

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Damar
09/06/21 11:35:47 AM
#336:


Zodd3224 posted...
"Really undesirable" he says.

What a clown.

Makes it sound like somehow the pedo was the jews and the father was the Nazis.
Quite incredible really.

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Gwynevere
09/06/21 11:38:24 AM
#337:


WeeWeiWiiWie posted...
It's cool. You can throw your morals away when it appeals to your baser emotions. Just don't pretend like anybody needs to respect you for it.
Based on the reaction itt, I'm not sure your assessment on whether a position is respectable is worth all that much.

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BeantownHero
09/06/21 11:57:19 AM
#338:


Would I be justified in murdering a police officer who brutalized a loved one

How about an Afghan refugee who tracked down the soilder who killed a loved one or subjected them to some horrible offense?

how about killing a drunk driver who seriously hurt a loved one?

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PC_Genjin
09/06/21 12:11:25 PM
#339:


BeantownHero posted...
Would I be justified in murdering a police officer who brutalized a loved one

How about an Afghan refugee who tracked down the soilder who killed a loved one or subjected them to some horrible offense?

how about killing a drunk driver who seriously hurt a loved one?

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Slayer_22
09/06/21 5:50:26 PM
#340:


Woozul posted...
Hilarious that posters who would normally agree with certain mindsets are disagreeing because of the username. So fucking juvenile

@Woozul how do you feel about this? Do you think his death was justified?
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Slayer_22
09/06/21 6:15:31 PM
#342:


Woozul posted...
I don't have anything to add that hasn't been said already.

Everyone's opinion is invaluable, Calypso. Speak your mind. :D
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Slayer_22
09/06/21 6:25:38 PM
#344:


Woozul posted...
I heavily disagree with the first part of that statement.

Are you condemning Cyric's point of view?
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Slayer_22
09/06/21 6:32:46 PM
#346:


Woozul posted...
I wasn't making a comment about anyone's view ITT, but a general statement.

Oh.

So you disagree that he deserved this or agree? I'm confused.
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Slayer_22
09/06/21 6:37:53 PM
#348:


Woozul posted...
I didn't and wasn't commenting on my views on it.

So this was deserved? Glad we agree!
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Guide
09/06/21 6:43:12 PM
#350:


I don't see why society is always brought up for this kind of thing. Individual cases can be judged by, you know, the individual factors of the case. Laws have never been hard and fast, even if we try to pretend they are.

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Slayer_22
09/06/21 6:45:18 PM
#351:


Woozul posted...
Not sure what you're trying to do here but it isn't working.

I'm not trying to do anything. I'm just glad we agree he got what he deserved.
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Guide
09/06/21 6:47:41 PM
#353:


Slayer_22 posted...
I'm not trying to do anything. I'm just glad we agree he got what he deserved.

He didn't say whether he did or didn't. Very specific on that. Why are you insisting? What's your gimmick?

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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/06/21 7:06:52 PM
#354:


I mean, the dude's obviously not arguing in good faith, just badgering people because he's enjoying being a part of the majority rn.

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