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Bass_X0
09/05/21 4:54:45 AM
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https://metro.co.uk/2021/09/04/dad-killed-peadophile-after-seeing-video-of-him-raping-daughter-15206300

Should he be spared the murder charge in this situation?

I think so. It was justified.

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Goldenguy
09/05/21 5:09:51 AM
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Going strictly by the letter of US law, he should be charged as he isn't judge, jury, or executioner. Not sure how that works in Russia, though.

Morally speaking, he definitely should not be charged for removing such a dreg of society. Or even if charged, should be immediately acquitted. I love the "he ran into my knife during an argument" part.

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Solution_45
09/05/21 5:13:45 AM
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yes he should avoid punishment.

he did society a huge favor.

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Middle hope
09/05/21 5:38:49 AM
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Reminds me of that time Gary Plauche shot and killed the karate instructor that diddled his kid.

He really only got a slap on the wrist for a crime that was absolutely premeditated and done in front of a room of witnesses and video taped.

I mean he clipped ol boy right in the face without hesitation.

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JTilly
09/05/21 5:41:24 AM
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Please leave that man alone
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Kloe_Rinz
09/05/21 5:46:57 AM
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Bass_X0 posted...
Should he be spared the murder charge in this situation?
Yes absolutely. Hes not a risk to society and hes unlikely to ever kill anyone else
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Funkydog
09/05/21 5:48:12 AM
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Fuck paedophiles, they are some of the lowest scum around

That said, justice and courts exist for a reason (supposedly) to make sure people are actually guilty of a crime. Otherwise every murderer could just say they killed a nonce to excuse themselves, or the accusation could merely be a lie/rumour. We really cannot be happy with vigilante justice as it almost never knows the facts of the matter, nor should we be letting angry people decide the punishment when someone is guilty.

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PBusted
09/05/21 6:13:41 AM
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Crazy fucking story. This guy who's apparently downloaded a lot of CP onto his phone is so cavalier about it that his friend, whose daughter is one of the victims, accidentally sees them while scrolling through it. That is just insane. Imagine scrolling through your friend's phone while he's sleeping, curious what kind of cool photos he takes, only to see CP of your kid there.
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PBusted
09/05/21 6:18:26 AM
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Never mind, I misread it. The friend was actually the one who made those videos himself. Imagine scrolling through a friend's phone and finding out they're a child rapist and porn producer. That's some creepypasta shit.
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Oshawottownage
09/05/21 6:57:33 AM
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Give him a light slap on the wrists.


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Nemu
09/05/21 7:08:02 AM
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As long as there is absolute proof it back it up, Im fine with such people not being persecuted to the full extent of the law. If its all on word of mouth, then the person should be expected to be treated no differently than any other murderer.
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Notti
09/05/21 7:14:18 AM
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Funkydog posted...
Fuck paedophiles, they are some of the lowest scum around

That said, justice and courts exist for a reason (supposedly) to make sure people are actually guilty of a crime. Otherwise every murderer could just say they killed a nonce to excuse themselves, or the accusation could merely be a lie/rumour. We really cannot be happy with vigilante justice as it almost never knows the facts of the matter, nor should we be letting angry people decide the punishment when someone is guilty.


This.

And vigilantism don't work because people intentionally start rumors or frame others for crimes.

Have we all seen how gullible most people are with conspiracy theories and antivax stuff, and anti-5G paranoia?

Wayyyyyyyy too many stupid people to trust that they get justice right. But, blood thirsty vigilantes only think about their one case that affected them. They don't think beyond that.
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Turbam
09/05/21 7:19:11 AM
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Set my man FREE!

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Lokison
09/05/21 7:21:05 AM
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He should be awarded a medal. He did the crime (is it really a crime though?) And then turned himself in. That's some honorable stuff right there.

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Kitt
09/05/21 7:23:25 AM
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He (the dad) did nothing wrong.

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LinkDaLunatic
09/05/21 7:24:32 AM
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this man's no criminal, he's a hero.
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Cuticrusader09
09/05/21 7:28:12 AM
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PBusted posted...
Never mind, I misread it. The friend was actually the one who made those videos himself. Imagine scrolling through a friend's phone and finding out they're a child rapist and porn producer. That's some creepypasta shit.


His mother defending the pedophile by saying he was probably drunk at the time is insane too. Thats not what alcohol does to you.
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Notti
09/05/21 7:29:39 AM
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Lokison posted...
He did the crime (is it really a crime though?) And then turned himself in.


If you're gonna be a vigilante, definitely turn yourself in take the punishment.
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LeoRavus
09/05/21 7:34:21 AM
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When you see someone raping your kid on their phone you really have no moral choice but to kill a mf. I went to high school with a senior who raped a 12 year old and only got 5 years. The girl's father tried to kill him so he was in some protective type situation.

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CyricZ
09/05/21 7:47:16 AM
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These kinds of topics really bring out the CEbros with murder fantasies.

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Fam_Fam
09/05/21 7:48:43 AM
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people here are fucked up. murder is fine, if you have a good reason?
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Esrac
09/05/21 7:51:40 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
people here are fucked up. murder is fine, if you have a good reason?

Yes.
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party_animal07
09/05/21 8:16:14 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
people here are fucked up. murder is fine, if you have a good reason?

Esrac posted...
Yes.


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Mr_Karate_II
09/05/21 8:34:18 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
people here are fucked up. murder is fine, if you have a good reason?
Yes,the sick fuck got what he deserved.

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Jiek_Fafn
09/05/21 8:36:22 AM
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It sets a terrible precedent to not punish him at all, but he's not a bad guy. I'm honestly not sure what an appropriate punishment is. Definitely not a standard murder sentence imo

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Turtlebread
09/05/21 8:38:14 AM
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are people really okay with someone getting away with murder scot free?

give him 10 hours of community service

and also a medal

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KStateKing17
09/05/21 8:40:14 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
people here are fucked up. murder is fine, if you have a good reason?

Esrac posted...
Yes.


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Lokison
09/05/21 8:41:02 AM
#28:


Turtlebread posted...
are people really okay with someone getting away with murder scot free?

give him 10 hours of community service

and also a medal
Agreed.

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Graycap
09/05/21 8:57:04 AM
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Unfortunately the proper way to handle this is to report it to the police.

You are not allowed to just kill someone because they've done horrible things.

And the guy can't be excused on simply losing his cool and killing the predator in a fit of rage, either. Since he didn't kill him right after he found out about the video. He beat him up... But only killed him the day after that. So potentially premediated murder.

Vigilante justice becomes a moral good when it's dealt upon someone the law won't punish. Not when you just don't feel like alerting the authorities at all.
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Kloe_Rinz
09/05/21 9:04:50 AM
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Graycap posted...
Unfortunately the proper way to handle this is to report it to the police
Sometimes this doesnt bring justice. Imagine being the parent of someone sexually assaulted by George Pell.
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Solution_45
09/05/21 9:13:48 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
people here are fucked up. murder is fine, if you have a good reason?

Esrac posted...
Yes.


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Gwynevere
09/05/21 9:16:45 AM
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CyricZ posted...
These kinds of topics really bring out the CEbros with murder fantasies.
Bit of armchair psychology, don't you think?

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ThyCorndog
09/05/21 9:16:52 AM
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I can understand why he did it
not that he like... should have. but I'm not sure anyone could really blame him

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Tyranthraxus
09/05/21 9:18:35 AM
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He should be arrested, charged, & given a slap on the wrist or whatever the minimum sentence for impassioned manslaughter is.

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Duncanwii
09/05/21 9:23:01 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
He should be arrested, charged, & given a slap on the wrist or whatever the minimum sentence for impassioned manslaughter is.

This except charged with murder and put in jail for the longest possible sentence.

Murder cannot be seen as ok regardless of the reason.
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ReDaZnDraGoN97
09/05/21 9:27:41 AM
#37:


Lokison posted...
GranolaPanic posted...
Its extremely disturbing to see people here that are okay with this. This is vigilante justice and shouldnt be supported. The guy was a vile predator, but you should alert the authorities instead of taking the law into your own hands.

Its not always reliable to tell the authorities. What if he is rich and has lots of money? nothing will happen to him guaranteed and hell get off with a slap in the wrist because hed have the best lawyers to get away with it

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CyricZ
09/05/21 9:29:08 AM
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Gwynevere posted...
Bit of armchair psychology, don't you think?
I'm sorry. Am I the one celebrating what a great thing it is that this man took the law into his own hands and killed another?

ReDaZnDraGoN97 posted...
Its not always reliable to tell the authorities. What if he is rich and has lots of money? nothing will happen to him guaranteed and hell get off with a slap in the wrist because hed have the best lawyers to get away with it
This is the kind of shit I'm talking about with "murder fantasies". People literally making stuff up that they have no basis for to justify the idea of killing someone who has done wrong.

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Funkydog
09/05/21 9:29:49 AM
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ReDaZnDraGoN97 posted...
Its not always reliable to tell the authorities. What if he is rich and has lots of money? nothing will happen to him guaranteed and hell get off with a slap in the wrist because hed have the best lawyers to get away with it
And what if he's innocent? Would you okay with me killing you and saying you were a paedophile as my reasoning if you weren't one?

I fully get the man's mindset if what he says is indeed true, but we can't just trust the word of a murderer and let them take matters into their own hands.

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Duncanwii
09/05/21 9:31:08 AM
#41:


Funkydog posted...

And what if he's innocent? Would you okay with me killing you and saying you were a paedophile as my reasoning if you weren't one?

I fully get the man's mindset if what he says is indeed true, but we can't just trust the word of a murderer and let them take matters into their own hands.

I agree. Throw the book at him
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monkmith
09/05/21 9:31:22 AM
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hel'll get a few years, not because what he did was wrong but because we're not supposed to take the law into our own hands. i very much doubt he's in for his full sentence.

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Tsukasa1891
09/05/21 9:31:31 AM
#43:


Turtlebread posted...
are people really okay with someone getting away with murder scot free?

give him 10 hours of community service

and also a medal
Yes. After all someone had to get rid of the massive shit stain (the body).

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Duncanwii
09/05/21 9:32:12 AM
#44:


monkmith posted...
not because what he did was wrong

It was definitely wrong. Murder is never ok.
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EnterTheTekken
09/05/21 9:32:12 AM
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Some of the same people I see here advocating the father's actions are some of the same people who do not want state executions, primarily basing it on the argument of "what good does state-sponsored retribution do for society?"

So why is one form of vigilantism/retribution morally acceptable, and another with state actors involved considered morally bankrupt?

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Lokison
09/05/21 9:32:23 AM
#46:


Duncanwii posted...
This except charged with murder and put in jail for the longest possible sentence.

Murder cannot be seen as ok regardless of the reason.
Shut up Duncan.

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KStateKing17
09/05/21 9:33:20 AM
#47:


I can see if this was similar to that murder by a mob a couple months ago where the woman claimed dude raped her without any type of proof, dude should be locked up forever. However, when you have undeniable proof that you just took out a serial rapist with videos of your own kid, why tf should I be mad?

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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/05/21 9:33:27 AM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
Some of the same people I see here advocating the father's actions are some of the same people who do not want state executions, primarily basing it on the argument of "what good does state-sponsored retribution do for society?"

So why is one form of vigilantism/retribution morally acceptable, and another with state actors involved considered morally bankrupt?

People lose sense of their morals anytime a child is involved.

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CyricZ
09/05/21 9:36:10 AM
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Like hell, you all play video games. You all watch action movies. I'm not saying it's your fault entirely if you've got a "personal bloody revenge" dream mentality.

There's a point where adult brain has to take over, though.

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Duncanwii
09/05/21 9:39:27 AM
#50:


Lokison posted...

Shut up Duncan.

Sorry you're angry I dont give killers a pass like other people in here. If the person is not an immediate threat to your life killing is never acceptable. Ever.
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Hexenherz
09/05/21 9:41:04 AM
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This happened in Russia? Guy will probably get a small monetary award from Putin personally and they'll call it good.

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