Current Events > Abused girl's father kills pedophile friend

(+) Yeah! (+)

Justice was done.

Hopefully they let him off with a slap on the wrist and maybe a beer afterwards, eh?
---

Slayer_22 posted...

No, you're working on the idea of a slippery slope.

This makes the rest of your post unintentionally hilarious, and more than a little embarrassing.

---

Sphyx posted...

This makes the rest of your post unintentionally hilarious, and more than a little embarrassing.

Because if we give just a slap on the wrist to the pedophile who killed the person who molested their child then it sets a horrible precedent and will encourage all types of vigilante murders against suspected pedophiles.
Allowing bad things to happen to bad peoole will just encourage more bad things to happen to people right?

Leon Gary Plauch (November 10, 1945 October 23, 2014) was an American man known for the 1984 vigilante killing of Jeff Doucet, who had kidnapped, sexually assaulted, and molested Plauch's son, Jody. The killing occurred on Friday, March 16, 1984, and was captured on camera by a local news crew. Although Plauch shot and killed Doucet, he was given a seven-year suspended sentence with five years' probation and 300 hours of community service for the shooting and received no prison time. The case received wide publicity because some people questioned whether Plauch should have been charged with murder or let off. Plauch stated that he was in the right, and that those in a similar position would have done the same thing.

There was no mass vigilante culling of suspected pedophiles here after that verdict.
So your high handed pearl clutching on behalf of the scum of the earth is rejected.

You're basing your argument on me being some sort of defender of child molestation, and you were quick to come to that conclusion with no proof.

Until you find a way to make that work, feel free to piss off.

---

Damar posted...

Because if we give just a slap on the wrist to the pedophile who killed the person who molested their child then it sets a horrible precedent and will encourage all types of vigilante murders against suspected pedophiles.
Allowing bad things to happen to bad peoole will just encourage more bad things to happen to people right?

There was no mass vigilante culling of suspected pedophiles here after that verdict.
So your high handed pearl clutching on behalf of the scum of the earth is rejected.

Nail on the head there. Plauch is a fucking hero as far as I'm concerned.

And, proof that we won't fall into this slippery slope mentality with killings of these pieces of human filth. So, yeah...lol.
---

Sphyx posted...

You're basing your argument on me being some sort of defender of child molestation, and you were quick to come to that conclusion with no proof.

Until you find a way to make that work, feel free to piss off.

You're not doing a very good job of arguing what point you have otherwise lol
---

Sphyx posted...

You're basing your argument on me being some sort of defender of child molestation, and you were quick to come to that conclusion with no proof.

Until you find a way to make that work, feel free to piss off.

Because bad things happening to bad people is bad right? Which leads to more bad.
Especially when bad is so subjective.
This is not the thread to be putting that absurdly simplistic argument across guy.
It makes people wonder about your motives for doing so.

You're guilty of the same thing as them. Only you use more words, but make even less sense.

---

Sphyx posted...

You're guilty of the same thing as them. Only you use more words, but make even less sense.

If you want to talk about embarassing, let's talk about defending the death of a confirmed pedophile.
---

Slayer_22 posted...

If you want to talk about embarassing, let's talk about defending the death of a confirmed pedophile.

Sphyx posted...

You're basing your argument on me being some sort of defender of child molestation, and you were quick to come to that conclusion with no proof.

Until you find a way to make that work, feel free to piss off.

---

No, I'm basing my argument on you defending the death of a confirmed pedophile.

I'm not accusing you of doing anything else.

And that shit is straight up embarassing and shameful.
---

Sphyx posted...

You're guilty of the same thing as them. Only you use more words, but make even less sense.

I've got a couple of questions

What the hell are you talking about?
Do you even know?

Slayer_22 posted...

you defending the death of a confirmed pedophile.

Prove it.

---

Race to the bottom.

"You're a bad person!"

"No, you are!"

Every goddamn argument on here.

---

Sphyx posted...

Prove it.

Lol.

No, clearly you're only disagreeing with me, someone who was condemning a pedophile's death...to not defend the pedophile's death.

5D chess, brother. You got me.

Or something.
---

Sphyx posted...

Prove it.

I don't think you realise how frightening the implications are of a world where we can so easily applaud doing bad things, just because it's done to bad people. Especially when 'bad' can be so subjective.

The last sentence gave you away.

Damar posted...

I don't think you realise how frightening the implications are of a world where we can so easily applaud doing bad things, just because it's done to bad people. Especially when 'bad' can be so subjective.

The last sentence gave you away.

I didn't catch that.

What the fuck?
---

Damar posted...

The last sentence gave you away.

Pathetic.

Still waiting.

---

Sphyx posted...

Pathetic.

Still waiting.

Alright, so...you tell us.

What side are you on? Is raping children bad? Is killing confirmed pedophile rapists bad?
---

Sphyx posted...

Pathetic.

Still waiting.

What for? Another pedo to get killed so you can go with the "doing bad things to bad peolple is bad okay" defense?

OK, let's be serious for a moment. Yes, I do think raping children is bad. That you even had to ask that is genuinely confounding.

Here's the part that might blow your mind... I also think vigilante killing is bad. Not the exact question you asked, but yours was blatantly suggestive and misleading.

The "What side are you on?" part is where i think your problem lies.

---

Good. You people put to much faith in this bullshit justice system.

Lets these sick people out all the time but minor issues and oh boy you could get 10+ years.

I hope I'm on a jury one day for a case like this. Not guilty all day.

Sphyx posted...

OK, let's be serious for a moment. Yes, I do think raping children is bad. That you even had to ask that is genuinely confounding.

Here's the part that might blow your mind... I also think vigilante killing is bad. Not the exact question you asked, but yours was blatantly suggestive and misleading.

The "What side are you on?" part is where i think your problem lies.

Cool cool we're getting somewhere.
Now tell us which act do you consider worse
The murder of a pedo.
Or the rape of multiple children over several.years by said pedo.

Also imagine not being ok with this.

Some of you are pedos and I hope you get caught. I've seen people post here defending them hard. Really F up.

Sphyx posted...

OK, let's be serious for a moment. Yes, I do think raping children is bad. That you even had to ask that is genuinely confounding.

Here's the part that might blow your mind... I also think vigilante killing is bad. Not the exact question you asked, but yours was blatantly suggestive and misleading.

The "What side are you on?" part is where i think your problem lies.

Oh, so this still applies:

Slayer_22 posted...

No, I'm basing my argument on you defending the death of a confirmed pedophile.

I'm not accusing you of doing anything else.

And that shit is straight up embarassing and shameful.

---

The problem here is that you guys are making assumptions and leaps of logic based on Sphyxs initial post.

Sphyx never said bad was subjective in this particular scenario. He only said that bad can be subjective which is correct. Not everyone has the same definition of good and bad. He shouldnt have to prove anything here. You read his post, made assumptions, and started to argue a position he never took. Its basically a strawman logical fallacy. Youre attacking a position he never defended instead of addressing his actual argument.

---

Scarecrow17 posted...

The problem here is that you guys are making assumptions and leaps of logic based on Sphyxs initial post.

Sphyx never said bad was subjective in this particular scenario. He only said that bad can be subjective which is correct. Not everyone has the same definition of good and bad. He shouldnt have to prove anything here. You read his post, made assumptions, and started to argue a position he never took. Its basically a strawman logical fallacy. Youre attacking a position he never defended instead of addressing his actual argument.

Another one.
Christ.

Scarecrow17 posted...

The problem here is that you guys are making assumptions and leaps of logic based on Sphyxs initial post.

Sphyx never said bad was subjective in this particular scenario. He only said that bad can be subjective which is correct. Not everyone has the same definition of good and bad. He shouldnt have to prove anything here. You read his post, made assumptions, and started to argue a position he never took. Its basically a strawman logical fallacy. Youre attacking a position he never defended instead of addressing his actual argument.

.Sphyx posted...

This makes the rest of your post unintentionally hilarious, and more than a little embarrassing.

What argument is there here? Like...honestly.
---

Damar posted...

Another one.
Christ.

See. This isnt an argument and Ive already confirmed my position earlier in this thread since you apparently cant read very well which youve demonstrated several times in this thread.

Slayer_22 posted...

.

What argument is there here? Like...honestly.

Because from my understanding, the stance youve taken is a slippery slope as well. You just didnt realize it which is why he found it funny.

---

Damar posted...

Cool cool we're getting somewhere.
Now tell us which act do you consider worse?
The murder of a pedo.
Or the rape of multiple children over several.years by said pedo.

We're getting into the same "pick a side" issue i mentioned before.

Why would one being a bigger crime mean i should overlook the other? Would you wipe the slate clean for a monster, just because he was once on your side against someone arguably worse?

If we were discussing who should get the harsher punishment, this might be a point. But we're not. We're talking about the morality of the killing, not the rapes. It's a given that those are wrong and should be punished if guilty. Where we seem to differ is that I don't believe the first person's crimes absolve the second person of theirs.

The_True_King posted...

Also imagine not being ok with this.

Some of you are pedos

Now it's your turn to piss off!

---

Scarecrow17 posted...

Because from my understanding, the stance youve taken is a slippery slope as well. You just didnt realize it which is why he found it funny.

I outright stated it wasn't though. That was the point of the post.
---

Slayer_22 posted...

I outright stated it wasn't though. That was the point of the post.

And thats incorrect because your stance, in itself, is that of a slippery slope. You automatically believe that letting the law handle it will leave to a chain of reactions which ultimately results in an undesirable outcome. Thats the definition of slippery slope. The evidence you posted to try and support your argument happened here in America, not Russia. I could easily point you in a direction where people didnt give the law a chance and now a pedophile roams free because of it but again, this instance happened in America and not Russia.

Is it not your stance that the law could be too lenient and let a pedophile walk free?

---

Damar posted...

Cool cool we're getting somewhere.
Now tell us which act do you consider worse
The murder of a pedo.
Or the rape of multiple children over several.years by said pedo.

You're picking the wrong battle here
---

Sphyx posted...

We're getting into the same "pick a side" issue i mentioned before.

Why would one being a bigger crime mean i should overlook the other? Would you wipe the slate clean for a monster, just because he was once on your side against someone arguably worse?

You already nailed your colors to the mast in this thread guy.

Sphyx 3 days ago
#265

No, murder is murder.
Punish him to the fullest extent of the law.

Because nothing screams saying not a pedo defender than posting that the man who murdered a pedo who raped his daughter and videoed it should be "Punished to the fullest extent of the law"

Goddamn you are so much worse than I thought.

Dude he's not a pedo defender just because he doesn't agree with vigilante killing. Stop. You're doing the dumb shit CyricZ was doing accusing everyone he didn't agree with of having a "murder fantasy"
---

One_Day_Remains posted...

You're picking the wrong battle here

Am I?

Sphyx 3 days ago
#265

No, murder is murder.
Punish him to the fullest extent of the law.

I think not.

There's a difference between condemning a murderer and defending a child rapist. Falling right back into that "only two sides" thing again.

Jason isn't your friend just because he fought Freddy.

---

Sphyx posted...

There's a difference between condemning a murderer and defending a child rapist. Falling right back into that "only two sides" thing again.

Jason isn't your friend just because he fought Freddy.

Are you ever going to shut the hell up?

---

You know what chariots are good at? Pissing off at great velocity.

Off you go.

---

TheChariot posted...

Are you ever going to shut the hell up?

Why would he do that when you guys are stupidly accusing him of being a pedo defender
---

Sphyx posted...

There's a difference between condemning a murderer and defending a child rapist. Falling right back into that "only two sides" thing again.

Except the first thing you posted when entering this thread was unequivocal support for punishing the father to the fullest extent of the law. No mitigation,no taking into account the extradionary circumstances of the case.
An unequivocal condemnation you have yet to give to this child rapist.

Damar posted...

An unequivocal condemnation you have yet to give to this child rapist.

What would be the point of that when he's already dead?!

Also,
Sphyx posted...

We're talking about the morality of the killing, not the rapes. It's a given that those are wrong and should be punished if guilty.

---

Sphyx posted...

What would be the point of that when he's already dead?!

Also,

So you can only condemn child rapists when they're alive huh?
Otherwise you would be disrespecting the dead?
Would you care to unequivocally condemn this revolting child rapist for his horrific actions against children now then?

You missed a part of that quote. I suspect you did it intentionally.

---

Sphyx posted...

You missed a part of that quote. I suspect you did it intentionally.

So no you're not going to bother condemning the pedophile who's disgusting and abhorrent actions led directly to his own death.
Well guess what guy.
The father is no longer in prison he has been released pending a trial which will result in zero jail time and minimal punishment if he even gets found guilty.
That angers and upsets you because you wanted him punished to the "fullest extent of the law".
Unfortunately for you most normal people don't think like that.
And they don't bother to shed a tear over dead child rapists either.
Do you know who clutch pearls over dead pedophiles?
Scared living pedophiles.

Sphyx posted...

Some really immature attitudes ITT.

I don't think you realise how frightening the implications are of a world where we can so easily applaud doing bad things, just because it's done to bad people.

Especially when 'bad' can be so subjective.

Would you be happy if this guy were arrested and sent to prison? Sending someone to rot in a jail cell for life is doing a bad thing to them. The only way you could avoid doing something bad to him is if you didn't punish him at all and let him go.

It's sad when you believe your own lies.

---

Scarecrow17 posted...

And thats incorrect because your stance, in itself, is that of a slippery slope. You automatically believe that letting the law handle it will leave to a chain of reactions which ultimately results in an undesirable outcome. Thats the definition of slippery slope. The evidence you posted to try and support your argument happened here in America, not Russia. I could easily point you in a direction where people didnt give the law a chance and now a pedophile roams free because of it but again, this instance happened in America and not Russia.

Is it not your stance that the law could be too lenient and let a pedophile walk free?

Of course. It is a possibility, and my preferred result is a pedophile rapist dying. In any case, my stance is more that the guy didn't do anything wrong.

My stance in that particular situation isn't based as much on a slippery slope, as the result isn't 100% gonna happen just because if happened before. It isn't a situation of 'oh, it happened once, so it'll happen every time' just the possibility exists that someone can get off scot free, in which case, I'd rather they do not even get the chance.

I'm sure I can find some Russian articles if I could speak the language, but I can only find what I can find.

But do not mind me. I'm tired af. Sorry if it's a bit ramble-y
---

Sphyx posted...

We're getting into the same "pick a side" issue i mentioned before.

Why would one being a bigger crime mean i should overlook the other? Would you wipe the slate clean for a monster, just because he was once on your side against someone arguably worse?

If we were discussing who should get the harsher punishment, this might be a point. But we're not. We're talking about the morality of the killing, not the rapes. It's a given that those are wrong and should be punished if guilty. Where we seem to differ is that I don't believe the first person's crimes absolve the second person of theirs.

Now it's your turn to piss off!

I never called you out as a pedo but holy shit nice of you to tell us. I'll definitely be reporting your username and links to the appropriate people

How are y'all still arguing about this lol

---