Current Events > It bothers me so much during Covid that people in the UK still don't tip.

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Xavier_On_High 09/06/21 6:59:53 AM #101:	UnfairRepresent posted... What's your point Stop being deliberately obtuse, you know what the point is. Service work, while gruelling and underpaid, isn't exceptionally so. If service workers should be tipped, so should a lot of retail workers. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif <cite>Xavier_On_High posted [p:957782096] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>What's your point</quote> Stop being deliberately obtuse, you know what the point is. Service work, while gruelling and underpaid, isn't exceptionally so. If service workers should be tipped, so should a lot of retail workers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 09/06/21 7:03:15 AM #102:	UnfairRepresent posted... In the developed world sure. Some 3rd world nations probably have bigger issues People in Germany tip and their "cultural differences " are bigger than the UKs are compared to the US You can fit the UK and US cultural differences inside of a jar of jam Plenty of developed countries pay their servers penalty rates, offer paid leave etc. Pretty rude to assume that they need your charity or that it's something that should be the culture in developed countries. Typical American. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:957782125] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>In the developed world sure. Some 3rd world nations probably have bigger issues People in Germany tip and their "cultural differences " are bigger than the UKs are compared to the US You can fit the UK and US cultural differences inside of a jar of jam</quote> Plenty of developed countries pay their servers penalty rates, offer paid leave etc. Pretty rude to assume that they need your charity or that it's something that should be the culture in developed countries. Typical American. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 09/06/21 7:03:41 AM #103:	So why dont the surgeon or the nurse deserve a tip? And you keep ignoring all the people telling you about all the shitty people retail workers have to put up with, especially customer service members, retail work isnt just shelf stacking so STFU acting like it is. The only one being intellectually dishonest is you. And again as you keep ignoring this why not pay wait staff more as well then? Either pay them more as well or tip everyone that deals with people. Take the L and stop trying to get out of your own trap as your lack of knowledge on what retail involves is showing. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:957782132] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>So why dont the surgeon or the nurse deserve a tip? And you keep ignoring all the people telling you about all the shitty people retail workers have to put up with, especially customer service members, retail work isnt just shelf stacking so STFU acting like it is. The only one being intellectually dishonest is you. And again as you keep ignoring this why not pay wait staff more as well then? Either pay them more as well or tip everyone that deals with people. Take the L and stop trying to get out of your own trap as your lack of knowledge on what retail involves is showing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 7:14:31 AM #104:	Darmik posted... Plenty of developed countries pay their servers penalty rates, offer paid leave etc. Pretty rude to assume that they need your charity or that it's something that should be the culture in developed countries. Typical American. He said rudely like a hypocrite Anyone who doesn't want a tip doesn't have to take it and Germany tips too. How about instead of screaming how bad foreigners are mr Carlson you actually try to explain why compassion and reward for good service is a bad thing? You sound so much like a Trumper defending US healthcare. Just chest thump, hypocrisy , insults , emotion and Xenophobia. Same attitude that got Brexit passed And again note how the dude who was claiming the UK does tip will ignore this post. spikethedevil posted... So why dont the surgeon or the nurse deserve a tip? it's not service work And you keep ignoring all the people telling you about all the shitty people retail workers have to put up with, especially customer service members, No I haven't. Retail work is hell. I used to do it I'd rather visit Silent Hill than do it again retail work isnt just shelf stacking so STFU acting like it is. I never said it was The only one being intellectually dishonest is you. And again as you keep ignoring this why not pay wait staff more as well then? Yes they should Either pay them more as well or tip everyone that deals with people. Take L and stop trying to get out of your own trap as your lack of knowledge on what retail involves is showing. or pay them both reasonably and give service workers tips Boom --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957782247] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Plenty of developed countries pay their servers penalty rates, offer paid leave etc. Pretty rude to assume that they need your charity or that it's something that should be the culture in developed countries. Typical American.</quote> He said rudely like a hypocrite Anyone who doesn't want a tip doesn't have to take it and Germany tips too. How about instead of screaming how bad foreigners are mr Carlson you actually try to explain why compassion and reward for good service is a bad thing? You sound so much like a Trumper defending US healthcare. Just chest thump, hypocrisy , insults , emotion and Xenophobia. Same attitude that got Brexit passed And again note how the dude who was claiming the UK does tip will ignore this post. spikethedevil posted... </cite> <quote>So why dont the surgeon or the nurse deserve a tip? </quote> it's not service work <quote>And you keep ignoring all the people telling you about all the shitty people retail workers have to put up with, especially customer service members, </quote> No I haven't. Retail work is hell. I used to do it I'd rather visit Silent Hill than do it again <quote>retail work isnt just shelf stacking so STFU acting like it is. </quote> I never said it was <quote>The only one being intellectually dishonest is you. And again as you keep ignoring this why not pay wait staff more as well then? </quote> Yes they should <quote>Either pay them more as well or tip everyone that deals with people. Take L and stop trying to get out of your own trap as your lack of knowledge on what retail involves is showing.</quote> or pay them both reasonably and give service workers tips Boom </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/06/21 7:16:19 AM #105:	Xavier_On_High posted... Stop being deliberately obtuse, you know what the point is. Service work, while gruelling and underpaid, isn't exceptionally so. If service workers should be tipped, so should a lot of retail workers. Nobody should be tipped. Everybody should be paid a livable wage. UR is categorically against livable wages. <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:957782259] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Xavier_On_High posted... </cite> <quote>Stop being deliberately obtuse, you know what the point is. Service work, while gruelling and underpaid, isn't exceptionally so. If service workers should be tipped, so should a lot of retail workers.</quote>Nobody should be tipped. Everybody should be paid a livable wage. UR is categorically against livable wages. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 7:20:33 AM #106:	Kloe_Rinz posted... Nobody should be tipped. Everybody should be paid a livable wage. UR is categorically against livable wages. UnfairRepresent posted... pay them both reasonably and give service workers tips Boom literally back to back lol perfection --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957782298] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite> <quote>Nobody should be tipped. Everybody should be paid a livable wage. UR is categorically against livable wages.</quote> UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>pay them both reasonably and give service workers tips Boom</quote>literally back to back lol perfection </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 09/06/21 7:20:34 AM #107:	Give us a proper reason as to why surgeons and nurses dont deserve tips? Saying theyre not servers isnt a fucking reason when there hob is harder and more important Why is it only service people? The surgeon literally saves peoples fucking lives. The fact that youre now shitting on medical staff as well as retail workers is frankly disgusting. And again as you keep ignoring this why not pay wait staff more as well then? --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:957782299] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Give us a proper reason as to why surgeons and nurses dont deserve tips? Saying theyre not servers isnt a fucking reason when there hob is harder and more important Why is it only service people? The surgeon literally saves peoples fucking lives. The fact that youre now shitting on medical staff as well as retail workers is frankly disgusting. And again as you keep ignoring this why not pay wait staff more as well then? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xavier_On_High 09/06/21 7:23:27 AM #108:	UnfairRepresent posted... or pay them both reasonably and give service workers tips Why, though? Why the exception for service workers? Other profession are just as gruelling. In the US, the reason service workers are tipped isn't compassion, it's because it subsidises their wages. It's a peculiarity in the service industry that only exists in the UK as an American import that doesn't really make sense. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif <cite>Xavier_On_High posted [p:957782321] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>or pay them both reasonably and give service workers tips</quote> Why, though? Why the exception for service workers? Other profession are just as gruelling. In the US, the reason service workers are tipped isn't compassion, it's because it subsidises their wages. It's a peculiarity in the service industry that only exists in the UK as an American import that doesn't really make sense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 7:30:43 AM #109:	Xavier_On_High posted... Why, though? Why the exception for service workers? Other profession are just as gruelling. In the US, the reason service workers are tipped isn't compassion, it's because it subsidises their wages. It's a peculiarity in the service industry that only exists in the UK as an American import that doesn't really make sense. Except it's in plenty of other countries too spikethedevil posted... Give us a proper reason as to why surgeons and nurses dont deserve tips? Saying theyre not servers isnt a fucking reason "Give us a proper reason why the world record holding weight lifter is special. Saying its because of his weight lifting isn't a fucking reason " Erm... the service is the point. Thats what you're tipping when there hob is harder and more important Why is it only service people? The surgeon literally saves peoples fucking lives. The fact that youre now shitting on medical staff as well as retail workers is frankly disgusting. I like how you argue not tipping people is shitting on them while simultaneously demanding no one tips service workers with the passion of Beowulf And it's not about what's hob is harder (or hotter) its about the service work. Even before getting into salaries. Surgeons are paid a lot more and need skills to be one, but that aside they're not serving you. You don't order your liver surgeon to run down the shops and buy you some Carlsberg export if you did do that and he complied, you should tip him for that service im not sure how more many times/ways I can explain this And again as you keep ignoring this why not pay wait staff more as well then? No they should do that too I've said that like 9 times now and you just ignore it while hypocritically complaining I ignore things --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957782394] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Xavier_On_High posted... </cite> <quote>Why, though? Why the exception for service workers? Other profession are just as gruelling. In the US, the reason service workers are tipped isn't compassion, it's because it subsidises their wages. It's a peculiarity in the service industry that only exists in the UK as an American import that doesn't really make sense.</quote>Except it's in plenty of other countries too spikethedevil posted... </cite> <quote>Give us a proper reason as to why surgeons and nurses dont deserve tips? Saying theyre not servers isnt a fucking reason</quote> "Give us a proper reason why the world record holding weight lifter is special. Saying its because of his weight lifting isn't a fucking reason " Erm... the service is the point. Thats what you're tipping <quote> when there hob is harder and more important Why is it only service people? The surgeon literally saves peoples fucking lives. The fact that youre now shitting on medical staff as well as retail workers is frankly disgusting.</quote> I like how you argue not tipping people is shitting on them while simultaneously demanding no one tips service workers with the passion of Beowulf And it's not about what's hob is harder (or hotter) its about the service work. Even before getting into salaries. Surgeons are paid a lot more and need skills to be one, but that aside they're not serving you. You don't order your liver surgeon to run down the shops and buy you some Carlsberg export if you did do that and he complied, you should tip him for that service im not sure how more many times/ways I can explain this <quote> And again as you keep ignoring this why not pay wait staff more as well then?</quote>No they should do that too I've said that like 9 times now and you just ignore it while hypocritically complaining I ignore things </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xavier_On_High 09/06/21 7:38:29 AM #110:	UnfairRepresent posted... Except it's in plenty of other countries too Yeah, but this conversation is about tipping in the UK, which exists as an import of a US custom, which exists due to labor laws that are different from those in the UK. It doesn't make sense to tip service workers here because there's no need to subsidise their wages. If your argument is that we should use tipping to show compassion rather than compensation, then we should use it for all arduous professions. If your argument is that service workers should be better compensated, then I agree, and I think it should be done via a living wage rather than leaving it to the whims of the customer. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif <cite>Xavier_On_High posted [p:957782471] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Except it's in plenty of other countries too</quote> Yeah, but this conversation is about tipping in the UK, which exists as an import of a US custom, which exists due to labor laws that are different from those in the UK. It doesn't make sense to tip service workers here because there's no need to subsidise their wages. If your argument is that we should use tipping to show compassion rather than compensation, then we should use it for all arduous professions. If your argument is that service workers should be better compensated, then I agree, and I think it should be done via a living wage rather than leaving it to the whims of the customer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 7:47:28 AM #111:	Xavier_On_High posted... Yeah, but this conversation is about tipping in the UK, which exists as an import of a US custom, which exists due to labor laws that are different from those in the UK. It doesn't make sense to tip service workers here because there's no need to subsidise their wages. Except it exists in other nations too let go of your envy of the US for a while and make a salient point. You should tip even if waitresses are underpaid. Plenty of service workers in the US (and elsewhere) are paid well and still get tips You're arguing that conservative greed in America bring evil makes it okay for you not have compassion. The pinnacle of egotistical two wrongs make a right logic If your argument is that we should use tipping to show compassion rather than compensation, then we should use it for all arduous professions. No just service work and maybe strippers If your argument is that service workers should be better compensated, then I agree, and I think it should be done via a living wage rather than leaving it to the whims of the customer. Everyone should earn a "living " wage Service workers should get tips --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957782579] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Xavier_On_High posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, but this conversation is about tipping in the UK, which exists as an import of a US custom, which exists due to labor laws that are different from those in the UK. It doesn't make sense to tip service workers here because there's no need to subsidise their wages.</quote> Except it exists in other nations too let go of your envy of the US for a while and make a salient point. You should tip even if waitresses are underpaid. Plenty of service workers in the US (and elsewhere) are paid well and still get tips You're arguing that conservative greed in America bring evil makes it okay for you not have compassion. The pinnacle of egotistical two wrongs make a right logic <quote> If your argument is that we should use tipping to show compassion rather than compensation, then we should use it for all arduous professions.</quote> No just service work and maybe strippers <quote> If your argument is that service workers should be better compensated, then I agree, and I think it should be done via a living wage rather than leaving it to the whims of the customer.</quote>Everyone should earn a "living " wage Service workers should get tips </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xavier_On_High 09/06/21 7:53:51 AM #112:	UnfairRepresent posted... No just service work and maybe strippers UnfairRepresent posted... Everyone should earn a "living " wage Service workers should get tips Why, though? Why the exception for service workers? None of the arguments you've made so far make sense, because plenty of professions could use that compassion. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif <cite>Xavier_On_High posted [p:957782647] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>No just service work and maybe strippers</quote> UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Everyone should earn a "living " wage Service workers should get tips</quote> Why, though? Why the exception for service workers? None of the arguments you've made so far make sense, because plenty of professions could use that compassion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 7:55:22 AM #113:	Xavier_On_High posted... Why, though? Why the exception for service workers? None of the arguments you've made so far make sense, because plenty of professions could use that compassion. UnfairRepresent posted... I like how you argue not tipping people is shitting on them while simultaneously demanding no one tips service workers with the passion of Beowulf And it's not about what's hob is harder (or hotter) its about the service work. Even before getting into salaries. Surgeons are paid a lot more and need skills to be one, but that aside they're not serving you. You don't order your liver surgeon to run down the shops and buy you some Carlsberg export if you did do that and he complied, you should tip him for that service im not sure how more many times/ways I can explain this --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957782661] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Xavier_On_High posted... </cite> <quote>Why, though? Why the exception for service workers? None of the arguments you've made so far make sense, because plenty of professions could use that compassion.</quote> UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>I like how you argue not tipping people is shitting on them while simultaneously demanding no one tips service workers with the passion of Beowulf And it's not about what's hob is harder (or hotter) its about the service work. Even before getting into salaries. Surgeons are paid a lot more and need skills to be one, but that aside they're not serving you. You don't order your liver surgeon to run down the shops and buy you some Carlsberg export if you did do that and he complied, you should tip him for that service im not sure how more many times/ways I can explain this</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlebread 09/06/21 8:01:24 AM #114:	What part of being a service worker makes it so you are required to tip them? --- https://imgur.com/yCW15Zn <cite>Turtlebread posted [p:957782730] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>What part of being a service worker makes it so you are required to tip them? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xavier_On_High 09/06/21 8:01:57 AM #115:	UnfairRepresent posted... I like how you argue not tipping people is shitting on them while simultaneously demanding no one tips service workers with the passion of Beowulf And it's not about what's hob is harder (or hotter) its about the service work. Even before getting into salaries. Surgeons are paid a lot more and need skills to be one, but that aside they're not serving you. You don't order your liver surgeon to run down the shops and buy you some Carlsberg export if you did do that and he complied, you should tip him for that service im not sure how more many times/ways I can explain this Plenty of professions outside the service industry involve taking commands and requests from customers, though. A carpenter has to follow a customer's specifications. A plumber has to fit a toilet where their client wants it. Why shouldn't they be tipped, if tipping is supposed to compensate the following of commands? --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif <cite>Xavier_On_High posted [p:957782737] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>I like how you argue not tipping people is shitting on them while simultaneously demanding no one tips service workers with the passion of Beowulf And it's not about what's hob is harder (or hotter) its about the service work. Even before getting into salaries. Surgeons are paid a lot more and need skills to be one, but that aside they're not serving you. You don't order your liver surgeon to run down the shops and buy you some Carlsberg export if you did do that and he complied, you should tip him for that service im not sure how more many times/ways I can explain this</quote> Plenty of professions outside the service industry involve taking commands and requests from customers, though. A carpenter has to follow a customer's specifications. A plumber has to fit a toilet where their client wants it. Why shouldn't they be tipped, if tipping is supposed to compensate the following of commands? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 8:08:45 AM #116:	Turtlebread posted... What part of being a service worker makes it so you are required to tip them? headdesk I've said this 30 fucking times now Read nearly any of my posts. I'm sick of copy pasting my own quotes just to be asked the same question over and over its like talking to anti vaxxers Xavier_On_High posted... Plenty of professions outside the service industry involve taking commands and requests from customers, though. A carpenter has to follow a customer's specifications. A plumber has to fit a toilet where their client wants it. Why shouldn't they be tipped, if tipping is supposed to compensate the following of commands? Because it's not a service job Guy installs the toilet, you leave him alone to do it and pay him for that specific work. You can't walk up to him halfway through and tell him to fix your pipes or go fetch you a drink . he'll tell you to fuck off I don't think you understand what serving people means --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957782807] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Turtlebread posted... </cite> <quote>What part of being a service worker makes it so you are required to tip them?</quote>headdesk I've said this 30 fucking times now Read nearly any of my posts. I'm sick of copy pasting my own quotes just to be asked the same question over and over its like talking to anti vaxxers Xavier_On_High posted... </cite> <quote>Plenty of professions outside the service industry involve taking commands and requests from customers, though. A carpenter has to follow a customer's specifications. A plumber has to fit a toilet where their client wants it. Why shouldn't they be tipped, if tipping is supposed to compensate the following of commands?</quote>Because it's not a service job Guy installs the toilet, you leave him alone to do it and pay him for that specific work. You can't walk up to him halfway through and tell him to fix your pipes or go fetch you a drink . he'll tell you to fuck off I don't think you understand what serving people means </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlebread 09/06/21 8:09:29 AM #117:	Because its a service job because they are serving you thats in the job description you havent made a decent point this entire topic --- https://imgur.com/yCW15Zn <cite>Turtlebread posted [p:957782813] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Because its a service job because they are serving you thats in the job description you havent made a decent point this entire topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 8:12:30 AM #118:	See Spike, THAT'S ignoring posts when you have no point --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957782848] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>See Spike, THAT'S ignoring posts when you have no point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlebread 09/06/21 8:14:21 AM #119:	Thats the most hypocritical thing anyone has said all topic hahaha. --- https://imgur.com/yCW15Zn <cite>Turtlebread posted [p:957782874] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Thats the most hypocritical thing anyone has said all topic hahaha. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xavier_On_High 09/06/21 8:22:46 AM #120:	UnfairRepresent posted... Because it's not a service job Guy installs the toilet, you leave him alone to do it and pay him for that specific work. You can't walk up to him halfway through and tell him to fix your pipes or go fetch you a drink . he'll tell you to fuck off I don't think you understand what serving people means But fetching you a drink is a service worker's job, and they are compensated for their job via wages. Their job isn't any more arduous than many other jobs. Why do you think service workers require compassion for serving people? They're not literally servants, if you ask a server to dance for you or for something that isn't within their job remit, they will refuse and you may be told to leave, so I just don't get why you think it's particularly gruelling. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif <cite>Xavier_On_High posted [p:957782987] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Because it's not a service job Guy installs the toilet, you leave him alone to do it and pay him for that specific work. You can't walk up to him halfway through and tell him to fix your pipes or go fetch you a drink . he'll tell you to fuck off I don't think you understand what serving people means</quote> But fetching you a drink is a service worker's job, and they are compensated for their job via wages. Their job isn't any more arduous than many other jobs. Why do you think service workers require compassion for serving people? They're not literally servants, if you ask a server to dance for you or for something that isn't within their job remit, they will refuse and you may be told to leave, so I just don't get why you think it's particularly gruelling. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 09/06/21 8:33:17 AM #121:	UnfairRepresent posted... He said rudely like a hypocrite Anyone who doesn't want a tip doesn't have to take it and Germany tips too. How about instead of screaming how bad foreigners are mr Carlson you actually try to explain why compassion and reward for good service is a bad thing? You sound so much like a Trumper defending US healthcare. Just chest thump, hypocrisy , insults , emotion and Xenophobia. You're literally ranting in this topic that every single country should treat services the same way America does. No. When you are in a foreign country you follow the customs of the place you are in. It's not up to you to decide that your way is better. This is why you're a typical American. It doesn't matter to you what the people from other countries think. It doesn't matter that literally everyone you're sitting with thinks you're an obnoxious asshole. The American knows better and you're here to educate them. And yet here you are accusing other people of being like Trumpers. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:957783150] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>He said rudely like a hypocrite Anyone who doesn't want a tip doesn't have to take it and Germany tips too. How about instead of screaming how bad foreigners are mr Carlson you actually try to explain why compassion and reward for good service is a bad thing? You sound so much like a Trumper defending US healthcare. Just chest thump, hypocrisy , insults , emotion and Xenophobia.</quote> You're literally ranting in this topic that every single country should treat services the same way America does. No. When you are in a foreign country you follow the customs of the place you are in. It's not up to you to decide that your way is better. This is why you're a typical American. It doesn't matter to you what the people from other countries think. It doesn't matter that literally everyone you're sitting with thinks you're an obnoxious asshole. The American knows better and you're here to educate them. And yet here you are accusing other people of being like Trumpers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 8:48:07 AM #122:	Darmik posted... You're literally ranting in this topic that every single country should treat services the same way America does. Dunno but all services but tipping ya. Stop thinking In terms of nationality and use your bug juicy brain to think in terms of rationality and compassion and pragmatism If your opinion of any word I say is different based on what patch of dirt my dad was standing on when he ejacated , then you have been brain washed by right wing propaganda it doesn't matter No. When you are in a foreign country you follow the customs of the place you are in. It's not up to you to decide that your way is better. his is why you're a typical American. It doesn't matter to you what the people from other countries think. It doesn't matter that literally everyone you're sitting with thinks you're an obnoxious asshole. The American knows better and you're here to educate them. Could not disagree any more strongly. I don't think I could put into words how strongly I disagree The idea that FGM , or throwing gay people off buildings or the genocide in China or rewind time the segregation in Anerica is okay because its their culture and you're wrong to oppose it is complete cowardice and harmful. You should always strive to improve and if things are wrong call it out and try to improve it. By your logic Ghandi was an arrogant monster for fighting the Caste system. America never should have been independent in the first place. Slavery and homophobia is acceptable. Hell rewind a couple of years and most of the UK opposed covid vaccinations . It was the work of Europe and America ( myself included) challenging them that changed minds. Right now it's the deep south having that problem and according to you its wrong to challenge them because its their culture. Pragmatic good overrides "man culture " Right and wrong doesn't respect what designated dirt pile you're on And yet here you are accusing other people of being like Trumpers. You sure are --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957783355] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>You're literally ranting in this topic that every single country should treat services the same way America does. </quote> Dunno but all services but tipping ya. Stop thinking In terms of nationality and use your bug juicy brain to think in terms of rationality and compassion and pragmatism If your opinion of any word I say is different based on what patch of dirt my dad was standing on when he ejacated , then you have been brain washed by right wing propaganda it doesn't matter <quote> No. When you are in a foreign country you follow the customs of the place you are in. It's not up to you to decide that your way is better. his is why you're a typical American. It doesn't matter to you what the people from other countries think. It doesn't matter that literally everyone you're sitting with thinks you're an obnoxious asshole. The American knows better and you're here to educate them. </quote> Could not disagree any more strongly. I don't think I could put into words how strongly I disagree The idea that FGM , or throwing gay people off buildings or the genocide in China or rewind time the segregation in Anerica is okay because its their culture and you're wrong to oppose it is complete cowardice and harmful. You should always strive to improve and if things are wrong call it out and try to improve it. By your logic Ghandi was an arrogant monster for fighting the Caste system. America never should have been independent in the first place. Slavery and homophobia is acceptable. Hell rewind a couple of years and most of the UK opposed covid vaccinations . It was the work of Europe and America ( myself included) challenging them that changed minds. Right now it's the deep south having that problem and according to you its wrong to challenge them because its their culture. Pragmatic good overrides "man culture " Right and wrong doesn't respect what designated dirt pile you're on <quote> And yet here you are accusing other people of being like Trumpers.</quote>You sure are </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/06/21 8:49:14 AM #123:	spikethedevil posted... Give us a proper reason as to why surgeons and nurses dont deserve tips? Because nobody deserves tips. Instead, everyone should get a livable wage at the minimum. UR is categorically against this. <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:957783368] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted... </cite> <quote>Give us a proper reason as to why surgeons and nurses dont deserve tips?</quote>Because nobody deserves tips. Instead, everyone should get a livable wage at the minimum. UR is categorically against this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 8:51:19 AM #124:	Kloe_Rinz posted... Because nobody deserves tips. Instead, everyone should get a livable wage at the minimum. UR is categorically against this. UnfairRepresent posted... Everyone should earn a "living " wage Service workers should get tips --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957783402] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite> <quote>Because nobody deserves tips. Instead, everyone should get a livable wage at the minimum. UR is categorically against this.</quote> UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Everyone should earn a "living " wage Service workers should get tips</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xavier_On_High 09/06/21 8:53:11 AM #125:	UnfairRepresent posted... Hell rewind a couple of years and most of the UK opposed covid vaccinations . It was the work of Europe and America ( myself included) challenging them that changed minds. Is this the most UnfairRepresent sentence ever uttered? --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif <cite>Xavier_On_High posted [p:957783427] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Hell rewind a couple of years and most of the UK opposed covid vaccinations . It was the work of Europe and America ( myself included) challenging them that changed minds.</quote> Is this the most UnfairRepresent sentence ever uttered? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/06/21 8:53:16 AM #126:	Yeah so you are categorically against the idea that nobody should be getting tips. Try defending shit tip culture buddy. <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:957783434] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Yeah so you are categorically against the idea that nobody should be getting tips. Try defending shit tip culture buddy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 9:00:08 AM #127:	Xavier_On_High posted... Is this the most UnfairRepresent sentence ever uttered? I've been one of the loudest pro vaccination, anti anti-vaxxer voices in the UK for years I was always pointed out the rioters, the guys avoiding regulations, how masks worked, why you sanitize, why lockdowns work snacking down anti-vaxxer nonsense and being yelled at the whole time I've had dozens if not hundreds of people tell me I'm the one who convinced them to get a jab or argue back against their anti vax family and I'm proud of that . In a small way I defeated ignorance and saved lives. I may have been a tiny cog in a gigantic machine but I was a cog According to Darmik this makes me an arrogant monster I think near the polar opposite. the arrogant coward is the one who thinks nationality supersedes ethics and their nationality is defacto superior and immune to change or criticism from foreigners even if they are right America was built on immigrants. Everything we gave to the world came off the back of "foreigners " --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957783538] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Xavier_On_High posted... </cite> <quote>Is this the most UnfairRepresent sentence ever uttered?</quote>I've been one of the loudest pro vaccination, anti anti-vaxxer voices in the UK for years I was always pointed out the rioters, the guys avoiding regulations, how masks worked, why you sanitize, why lockdowns work snacking down anti-vaxxer nonsense and being yelled at the whole time I've had dozens if not hundreds of people tell me I'm the one who convinced them to get a jab or argue back against their anti vax family and I'm proud of that . In a small way I defeated ignorance and saved lives. I may have been a tiny cog in a gigantic machine but I was a cog According to Darmik this makes me an arrogant monster I think near the polar opposite. the arrogant coward is the one who thinks nationality supersedes ethics and their nationality is defacto superior and immune to change or criticism from foreigners even if they are right America was built on immigrants. Everything we gave to the world came off the back of "foreigners " </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trelve 09/06/21 9:08:24 AM #130:	UnfairRepresent posted... I've had dozens if not hundreds of people tell me I'm the one who convinced them to get a jab or argue back against their anti vax family Are these the same people who aren't tipping? <cite>Trelve posted [p:957783674] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>I've had dozens if not hundreds of people tell me I'm the one who convinced them to get a jab or argue back against their anti vax family </quote>Are these the same people who aren't tipping? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 09/06/21 9:08:35 AM #131:	You know what Im not biting anymore lol. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:957783680] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>You know what Im not biting anymore lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 9:09:07 AM #132:	spikethedevil posted... America was built on a genocide. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FB6nCwoVCYw The British empire did some horrific things as well of course. Indeed Not only that the pilgrims came to America to oppress religious belief, not seeking religious freedom like annoying butts like to lie about. The guys who wrote "All men are created equal " owned slaves and saw women as inferior I don't think you're following my point. It seems to be near the opposite of what you think it is There Is nothing wrong with challenging culture and tradition no matter who you are Moral relativism is bullshit. Slicing up children's gentials doesn't become acceptable based on where you do it. It's always wrong no matter the "culture " and everyone should challenge it. Its arrogant not to challenge it --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957783684] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote><cite>spikethedevil posted... </cite> <quote>America was built on a genocide. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FB6nCwoVCYw The British empire did some horrific things as well of course.</quote>Indeed Not only that the pilgrims came to America to oppress religious belief, not seeking religious freedom like annoying butts like to lie about. The guys who wrote "All men are created equal " owned slaves and saw women as inferior I don't think you're following my point. It seems to be near the opposite of what you think it is There Is nothing wrong with challenging culture and tradition no matter who you are Moral relativism is bullshit. Slicing up children's gentials doesn't become acceptable based on where you do it. It's always wrong no matter the "culture " and everyone should challenge it. Its arrogant not to challenge it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/06/21 9:27:36 AM #133:	Xavier_On_High posted... Is this the most UnfairRepresent sentence ever uttered? No. This is: UnfairRepresent posted... I've been one of the loudest pro vaccination, anti anti-vaxxer voices in the UK for years I was always pointed out the rioters, the guys avoiding regulations, how masks worked, why you sanitize, why lockdowns work snacking down anti-vaxxer nonsense and being yelled at the whole time I've had dozens if not hundreds of people tell me I'm the one who convinced them to get a jab or argue back against their anti vax family <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:957783950] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Xavier_On_High posted... </cite> <quote>Is this the most UnfairRepresent sentence ever uttered?</quote>No. This is: UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>I've been one of the loudest pro vaccination, anti anti-vaxxer voices in the UK for years I was always pointed out the rioters, the guys avoiding regulations, how masks worked, why you sanitize, why lockdowns work snacking down anti-vaxxer nonsense and being yelled at the whole time I've had dozens if not hundreds of people tell me I'm the one who convinced them to get a jab or argue back against their anti vax family</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 09/06/21 9:45:14 AM #134:	Turtlebread posted... What part of being a service worker makes it so you are required to tip them? "bcuz ish a survace jerb" fuck off with your fake compassion tc --- https://youtu.be/l-iLiNCScno https://imgur.com/ZngbqJn https://imgur.com/lbSi0U3 https://imgur.com/xaRYKZM <cite>ModLogic posted [p:957784254] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Turtlebread posted... </cite> <quote>What part of being a service worker makes it so you are required to tip them?</quote>"bcuz ish a survace jerb" fuck off with your fake compassion tc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/06/21 9:56:29 AM #135:	ModLogic posted... fuck off with your fake compassion tc And this is the crux of it. If TC had any real compassion he would be pro livable wage and anti-tipping. Not spamming shit nobody believes like how he's the most pro vaxx that ever existed and other bullshit like that <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:957784422] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>ModLogic posted... </cite> <quote>fuck off with your fake compassion tc</quote>And this is the crux of it. If TC had any real compassion he would be pro livable wage and anti-tipping. Not spamming shit nobody believes like how he's the most pro vaxx that ever existed and other bullshit like that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 10:03:43 AM #136:	Kloe_Rinz posted... TC had any real compassion he would be pro livable wage UnfairRepresent posted... Everyone should earn a "living " wage --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957784549] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite> <quote>TC had any real compassion he would be pro livable wage</quote> UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Everyone should earn a "living " wage </quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 09/06/21 10:05:45 AM #137:	but only "service" workers deserve fake "compassion" --- https://youtu.be/l-iLiNCScno https://imgur.com/ZngbqJn https://imgur.com/lbSi0U3 https://imgur.com/xaRYKZM <cite>ModLogic posted [p:957784576] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>but only "service" workers deserve fake "compassion" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 10:09:44 AM #138:	ModLogic posted... but only "service" workers deserve fake "compassion" Everyone deserves compassion People defending not tipping service workers by literally no hyperbole: "People have just never thought about it before, okay they have but waitresses don't deserve it, okay they do but you're foreign!" are not showing any compassion. And a great deal of foolishness And are bragging about it. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957784649] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>ModLogic posted... </cite> <quote>but only "service" workers deserve fake "compassion"</quote>Everyone deserves compassion People defending not tipping service workers by literally no hyperbole: "People have just never thought about it before, okay they have but waitresses don't deserve it, okay they do but you're foreign!" are not showing any compassion. And a great deal of foolishness And are bragging about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlebread 09/06/21 10:15:23 AM #139:	UnfairRepresent posted... See Spike, THAT'S ignoring posts when you have no point --- https://imgur.com/yCW15Zn <cite>Turtlebread posted [p:957784740] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>See Spike, THAT'S ignoring posts when you have no point</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 09/06/21 10:20:17 AM #140:	okay they have but waitresses don't deserve it, No one has said this, youve gotten in trouble for purposefully misquoting people before. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:957784829] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>okay they have but waitresses don't deserve it, No one has said this, youve gotten in trouble for purposefully misquoting people before. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 10:24:20 AM #141:	So you fully admit waitresses deserve tips? Good, --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957784905] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>So you fully admit waitresses deserve tips? Good, </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 09/06/21 10:25:32 AM #142:	That was never the argument the argument has been why only waiters/waitresses deserve tips according to your weird logic. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:957784925] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>That was never the argument the argument has been why only waiters/waitresses deserve tips according to your weird logic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 10:29:07 AM #143:	spikethedevil posted... That was never the argument the argument has been why only waiters/waitresses deserve tips according to your weird logic. bullshit. The entire topic has been Brits )except one who still attacked me instead of you) passionately arguing not to tip waitresses and that you shouldn't This "Well why dont we tip the surgeon!?" bollocks only came up long after I destroyed 17/19 fallacies defending not tipping and entirely relies on ignoring every word i said If the UK believed waitress deserved tips then they would tip --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957784988] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted... </cite> <quote>That was never the argument the argument has been why only waiters/waitresses deserve tips according to your weird logic.</quote>bullshit. The entire topic has been Brits )except one who still attacked me instead of you) passionately arguing not to tip waitresses and that you shouldn't This "Well why dont we tip the surgeon!?" bollocks only came up long after I destroyed 17/19 fallacies defending not tipping and entirely relies on ignoring every word i said If the UK believed waitress deserved tips then they would tip </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlebread 09/06/21 10:36:13 AM #144:	This topic went the same way every other topic TC makes, with everyone shitting on his garbage logic while deftly ignoring any valid criticisms. It's chronic at this point. --- https://imgur.com/yCW15Zn <cite>Turtlebread posted [p:957785121] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>This topic went the same way every other topic TC makes, with everyone shitting on his garbage logic while deftly ignoring any valid criticisms. It's chronic at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/06/21 10:40:16 AM #145:	Turtlebread posted... This topic went the same way every other topic TC makes, with everyone shitting on his garbage logic while deftly ignoring any valid criticisms. It's chronic at this point. I like that you freudian slipped that you ignored everything I have said --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:957785194] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Turtlebread posted... </cite> <quote>This topic went the same way every other topic TC makes, with everyone shitting on his garbage logic while deftly ignoring any valid criticisms. It's chronic at this point.</quote>I like that you freudian slipped that you ignored everything I have said </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlebread 09/06/21 10:41:57 AM #146:	I like that you continue to miss the point. --- https://imgur.com/yCW15Zn <cite>Turtlebread posted [p:957785229] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>I like that you continue to miss the point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cornmuffins 09/06/21 11:08:45 AM #147:	This topic got really interesting, but lets not kid ourselves if wasnt for UR Idk if its weird but I like the (actual) UK (or even EU) perspective --- Getting C's and D's, saying thanks and please. You broke the golden rule, you're staying after school. <cite>Cornmuffins posted [p:957785847] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>This topic got really interesting, but lets not kid ourselves if wasnt for UR Idk if its weird but I like the (actual) UK (or even EU) perspective</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/06/21 11:35:33 AM #148:	Turtlebread posted... This topic went the same way every other topic TC makes, with everyone shitting on his garbage logic while deftly ignoring any valid criticisms. It's chronic at this point. He doesnt have any valid criticisms <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:957786524] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Turtlebread posted... </cite> <quote>This topic went the same way every other topic TC makes, with everyone shitting on his garbage logic while deftly ignoring any valid criticisms. It's chronic at this point.</quote>He doesnt have any valid criticisms </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlebread 09/06/21 11:36:25 AM #149:	Kloe_Rinz posted... He doesnt have any valid criticisms There, I fixed the grammar --- https://imgur.com/yCW15Zn <cite>Turtlebread posted [p:957786549] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite> <quote>He doesnt have any valid criticisms</quote> There, I fixed the grammar </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/06/21 4:05:05 PM #150:	Thanks <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:957793721] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Thanks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 09/06/21 4:54:07 PM #151:	I can add "Remember the time when Unfair compared not tipping to throwing gay people off buildings?" Exactly like I predicted. He's just cliche at this point. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:957795155] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>I can add "Remember the time when Unfair compared not tipping to throwing gay people off buildings?" Exactly like I predicted. He's just cliche at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/06/21 4:55:26 PM #152:	Oh shit, I remember that. What a dumpster fire this is turning out to be for UR <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:957795199] in It bothers... [t:79642696]...</cite> <quote>Oh shit, I remember that. What a dumpster fire this is turning out to be for UR </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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