Current Events > do you agree with jill valentine being played by a black actress

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Damar 08/19/21 4:12:28 AM #353:	https://twitter.com/getFANDOM/status/1313543312326918145?s=19 Look at Leon Where's the outrage over that? <cite>Damar posted [p:957225606] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/getFANDOM/status/1313543312326918145?s=19 Look at Leon Where's the outrage over that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 08/19/21 5:12:12 AM #354:	Mr_Karate_II posted... The only real reason anyone could be against this is if they're racist. An adaption doesn't have to stay 100% faithful to the source material. But it should. If they dont want to make a movie or tv show based on the games, dont name it after the games. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:957226194] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>Mr_Karate_II posted... </cite> <quote>The only real reason anyone could be against this is if they're racist. An adaption doesn't have to stay 100% faithful to the source material.</quote> But it should. If they dont want to make a movie or tv show based on the games, dont name it after the games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterbarf 08/19/21 5:18:26 AM #355:	I doubt there is an actress that looks exactly like the in game character. I can't think of a single reason why the skin shade is any more necessary to replicate than any number of other physical features that have no meaning in the game. If somebody thinks it's of more importance relative to such features, they're probably racist. --- https://imgur.com/SJyzEFW by SmidgeIsntBack <cite>masterbarf posted [p:957226260] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>I doubt there is an actress that looks exactly like the in game character. I can't think of a single reason why the skin shade is any more necessary to replicate than any number of other physical features that have no meaning in the game. If somebody thinks it's of more importance relative to such features, they're probably racist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SRR Capdown 08/19/21 5:20:57 AM #356:	Is the character's race integral to their backstory, characterisation, motivations etc? If not, it doesn't matter what race they are portrayed as. --- Fire Bucket <cite>SRR Capdown posted [p:957226279] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>Is the character's race integral to their backstory, characterisation, motivations etc? If not, it doesn't matter what race they are portrayed as. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dirtydog 08/19/21 5:21:58 AM #357:	masterbarf posted... I doubt there is an actress that looks exactly like the in game character. I can't think of a single reason why the skin shade is any more necessary to replicate than any number of other physical features that have no meaning in the game. If somebody thinks it's of more importance relative to such features, they're probably racist. Nobody thinks she should look EXACTLY like her. Jill has changed slightly in the games too, but never her basic attributes. Sienna Guillory in the 2004 movie doesn't look EXACTLY like Jill from say Resident Evil 5 either, but she looks close enough. There is no need for the straw man that an actor has to look literally identical OR they can look like anything at all and it doesn't matter. --- "They never pay the slaves enough so they can get free, just enough so they can stay alive and come back to work." - Charles Bukowski <cite>dirtydog posted [p:957226289] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>masterbarf posted... </cite> <quote>I doubt there is an actress that looks exactly like the in game character. I can't think of a single reason why the skin shade is any more necessary to replicate than any number of other physical features that have no meaning in the game. If somebody thinks it's of more importance relative to such features, they're probably racist.</quote> Nobody thinks she should look EXACTLY like her. Jill has changed slightly in the games too, but never her basic attributes. Sienna Guillory in the 2004 movie doesn't look EXACTLY like Jill from say Resident Evil 5 either, but she looks close enough. There is no need for the straw man that an actor has to look literally identical OR they can look like anything at all and it doesn't matter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dirtydog 08/19/21 5:23:28 AM #358:	SRR Capdown posted... Is the character's race integral to their backstory, characterisation, motivations etc? If not, it doesn't matter what race they are portrayed as. Says you. That isn't some empirical truth though. Jill is white, she doesn't need to justify parts of herself as being 'integral' or she isn't allowed to be white any more. --- "They never pay the slaves enough so they can get free, just enough so they can stay alive and come back to work." - Charles Bukowski <cite>dirtydog posted [p:957226302] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>SRR Capdown posted... </cite> <quote>Is the character's race integral to their backstory, characterisation, motivations etc? If not, it doesn't matter what race they are portrayed as.</quote> Says you. That isn't some empirical truth though. Jill is white, she doesn't need to justify parts of herself as being 'integral' or she isn't allowed to be white any more. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 08/19/21 5:27:58 AM #359:	Damar posted... https://twitter.com/getFANDOM/status/1313543312326918145?s=19 Look at Leon Where's the outrage over that? Which character is Neal McDonough playing? Its the bottom left character. Lol at Leon. I could actually see Neal McDonough playing Wesker. --- So long, Thanks for all the fish! <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:957226347] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>Damar posted... </cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/getFANDOM/status/1313543312326918145?s=19 Look at Leon Where's the outrage over that?</quote>Which character is Neal McDonough playing? Its the bottom left character. Lol at Leon. I could actually see Neal McDonough playing Wesker. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterbarf 08/19/21 5:31:32 AM #360:	bigblu89 posted... UNLESS the characters race is a central part of the storyline. Otherwise, just cast the person you see most for for the role. Exactly. People who have a problem with such casting are placing inherent value on skin tone. Skin tone is only of consequence when prejudice has a role. If no such prejudice exists in the game skin tone is no more of a defining feature than eye color, nose bridge height, shoe size, etc. --- https://imgur.com/SJyzEFW by SmidgeIsntBack <cite>masterbarf posted [p:957226378] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>bigblu89 posted... </cite> <quote> UNLESS the characters race is a central part of the storyline. Otherwise, just cast the person you see most for for the role.</quote>Exactly. People who have a problem with such casting are placing inherent value on skin tone. Skin tone is only of consequence when prejudice has a role. If no such prejudice exists in the game skin tone is no more of a defining feature than eye color, nose bridge height, shoe size, etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterbarf 08/19/21 5:38:22 AM #361:	dirtydog posted... Nobody thinks she should look EXACTLY like her. Jill has changed slightly in the games too, but never her basic attributes. This sounds like something somebody who thinks all black people look alike would say. Skin tone is hardly a basic attribute. There are exponentially more features that make somebody look how they do. I know the celebrities I think most resemble my mother and myself have very different skin tones than ourselves. --- https://imgur.com/SJyzEFW by SmidgeIsntBack <cite>masterbarf posted [p:957226440] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>dirtydog posted... </cite> <quote> Nobody thinks she should look EXACTLY like her. Jill has changed slightly in the games too, but never her basic attributes.</quote>This sounds like something somebody who thinks all black people look alike would say. Skin tone is hardly a basic attribute. There are exponentially more features that make somebody look how they do. I know the celebrities I think most resemble my mother and myself have very different skin tones than ourselves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 08/19/21 8:33:28 AM #362:	dirtydog posted... SRR Capdown posted... Is the character's race integral to their backstory, characterisation, motivations etc? If not, it doesn't matter what race they are portrayed as. This is what she looks like. This is what the target appearance is. Any deviation is wrong. Characterisation, motivation doesnt matter when it comes to getting her visual appearance accurate and correct. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:957228678] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>dirtydog posted... </cite> SRR Capdown posted... </cite> <quote>Is the character's race integral to their backstory, characterisation, motivations etc? If not, it doesn't matter what race they are portrayed as.</quote> This is what she looks like. This is what the target appearance is. Any deviation is wrong. Characterisation, motivation doesnt matter when it comes to getting her visual appearance accurate and correct. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dirtydog 08/19/21 8:45:33 AM #363:	That's a hot collection of pixels there. I remember when video game girls could look good without Capcom making them wear shorts because to make them wear a skirt would be oppressing them. Those days are gone now. --- "They never pay the slaves enough so they can get free, just enough so they can stay alive and come back to work." - Charles Bukowski <cite>dirtydog posted [p:957228912] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>That's a hot collection of pixels there. I remember when video game girls could look good without Capcom making them wear shorts because to make them wear a skirt would be oppressing them. Those days are gone now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skiin_Walker 08/19/21 8:49:53 AM #364:	dirtydog posted... That's a hot collection of pixels there. I remember when video game girls could look good without Capcom making them wear shorts because to make them wear a skirt would be oppressing them. Those days are gone now. I like the Regina costume the best. I'm a big Dino Crisis guy. --- "Because a dog is a dog, is a dog, is a dog Unlike the wolf who made a widower of grandpa" - Wu Tang Clan, 1992 - Forever <cite>Skiin_Walker posted [p:957228997] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>dirtydog posted... </cite> <quote>That's a hot collection of pixels there. I remember when video game girls could look good without Capcom making them wear shorts because to make them wear a skirt would be oppressing them. Those days are gone now.</quote> I like the Regina costume the best. I'm a big Dino Crisis guy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamestunner 08/19/21 9:14:29 AM #365:	This is a non issue, until Capcom decides to make another game with Jill in it. There will be outrage (to a certain group of people, not black people) when they put a white Jill in the game, there will be some revisionist history going on, when they refer to this and this movie only that Jill is black and Capcom "changed" her to white. <cite>gamestunner posted [p:957229452] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>This is a non issue, until Capcom decides to make another game with Jill in it. There will be outrage (to a certain group of people, not black people) when they put a white Jill in the game, there will be some revisionist history going on, when they refer to this and this movie only that Jill is black and Capcom "changed" her to white. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 08/19/21 9:47:03 AM #366:	Bass_X0 posted... This is what she looks like. This is what the target appearance is. Any deviation is wrong Oops. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:957230133] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>Bass_X0 posted... </cite> <quote>This is what she looks like. This is what the target appearance is. Any deviation is wrong</quote> Oops. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 08/19/21 9:49:31 AM #367:	cuttin_in_farm posted... Oops. not to mention the several other variations of her --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN https://imgur.com/hVC4i6j <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:957230187] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite> <quote> Oops.</quote>not to mention the several other variations of her </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E_S_M_Z 08/19/21 9:49:59 AM #368:	Bass_X0 posted... This is what she looks like. This is what the target appearance is. Any deviation is wrong. That art is her RE3 appearance. It's literally a deviation from her original appearance to begin with... --- Join the club. Be part of the exclusive group called whoever, at: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1482- ()xxx[]:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::> <cite>E_S_M_Z posted [p:957230193] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>Bass_X0 posted... </cite> <quote>This is what she looks like. This is what the target appearance is. Any deviation is wrong. </quote> That art is her RE3 appearance. It's literally a deviation from her original appearance to begin with... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dirtydog 08/19/21 9:54:28 AM #369:	cuttin_in_farm posted... Oops. Why oops? She's still got the same attributes and is a bit older there (Revelations?) Oops is making her a difference race. --- "They never pay the slaves enough so they can get free, just enough so they can stay alive and come back to work." - Charles Bukowski <cite>dirtydog posted [p:957230287] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite> <quote> Oops.</quote> Why oops? She's still got the same attributes and is a bit older there (Revelations?) Oops is making her a difference race. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 08/19/21 9:58:34 AM #370:	Jagr_68 posted... Damn she is hot af This. I'm all for it. --- https://imgur.com/a/X14Jka4 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:957230385] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>Jagr_68 posted... </cite> <quote>Damn she is hot af</quote> This. I'm all for it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 08/19/21 10:10:33 AM #371:	masterbarf posted... I doubt there is an actress that looks exactly like the in game character. I can't think of a single reason why the skin shade is any more necessary to replicate than any number of other physical features that have no meaning in the game. If somebody thinks it's of more importance relative to such features, they're probably racist. There actually is a person that looks exactly like Jill. Julia Voth did the face capture for Jill for multiple games. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:957230630] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>masterbarf posted...</cite> <quote>I doubt there is an actress that looks exactly like the in game character. I can't think of a single reason why the skin shade is any more necessary to replicate than any number of other physical features that have no meaning in the game. If somebody thinks it's of more importance relative to such features, they're probably racist. </quote> There actually is a person that looks exactly like Jill. Julia Voth did the face capture for Jill for multiple games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamestunner 08/19/21 10:14:47 AM #372:	Slayer_22 posted... There actually is a person that looks exactly like Jill. Julia Voth did the face capture for Jill for multiple games. She's an overated cosplayer who can't act. <cite>gamestunner posted [p:957230721] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>There actually is a person that looks exactly like Jill. Julia Voth did the face capture for Jill for multiple games.</quote> She's an overated cosplayer who can't act. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 08/19/21 10:20:57 AM #373:	gamestunner posted... She's an overated cosplayer who can't act. Alright, then what about Nicole Tompkins who voiced and did the face modeling for Jill in the RE3 Remake? --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:957230867] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>gamestunner posted...</cite> <quote> She's an overated cosplayer who can't act. </quote> Alright, then what about Nicole Tompkins who voiced and did the face modeling for Jill in the RE3 Remake?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamestunner 08/19/21 10:24:15 AM #374:	Slayer_22 posted... Alright, then what about Nicole Tompkins who voiced and did the face modeling for Jill in the RE3 Remake? Can she act? Or just a face model? Idk her outside of REmake 3. <cite>gamestunner posted [p:957230940] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>Alright, then what about Nicole Tompkins who voiced and did the face modeling for Jill in the RE3 Remake?</quote> Can she act? Or just a face model? Idk her outside of REmake 3. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 08/19/21 10:27:22 AM #375:	gamestunner posted... Can she act? Or just a face model? Idk her outside of REmake 3. Your idea of good acting and my own vastly differ, so I don't think we'd agree regardless of what I said regarding her skills as a actress. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:957231026] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>gamestunner posted...</cite> <quote> Can she act? Or just a face model? Idk her outside of REmake 3. </quote> Your idea of good acting and my own vastly differ, so I don't think we'd agree regardless of what I said regarding her skills as a actress.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamestunner 08/19/21 10:36:41 AM #376:	Slayer_22 posted... Your idea of good acting and my own vastly differ, so I don't think we'd agree regardless of what I said regarding her skills as a actress. I really just don't care for Voth. <cite>gamestunner posted [p:957231235] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>Your idea of good acting and my own vastly differ, so I don't think we'd agree regardless of what I said regarding her skills as a actress.</quote> I really just don't care for Voth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 08/19/21 10:37:34 AM #377:	This dude doesnt see the logic fail of being okay with different face modes playing Jills they created? Why cant this lady also create a Jill appearance? --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:957231258] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>This dude doesnt see the logic fail of being okay with different face modes playing Jills they created? Why cant this lady also create a Jill appearance? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 08/19/21 10:38:32 AM #378:	gamestunner posted... I really just don't care for Voth. That's fair lol. I think Jennifer Aniston is an annoying actress but a ton of people love her, we all got our personal likes and dislikes, I'm not really one to say someone is wrong for small stuff like that lol. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:957231281] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>gamestunner posted...</cite> <quote> I really just don't care for Voth. </quote> That's fair lol. I think Jennifer Aniston is an annoying actress but a ton of people love her, we all got our personal likes and dislikes, I'm not really one to say someone is wrong for small stuff like that lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamestunner 08/19/21 10:42:55 AM #379:	Slayer_22 posted... That's fair lol. I think Jennifer Aniston is an annoying actress but a ton of people love her, we all got our personal likes and dislikes, I'm not really one to say someone is wrong for small stuff like that lol. <cite>gamestunner posted [p:957231394] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>That's fair lol. I think Jennifer Aniston is an annoying actress but a ton of people love her, we all got our personal likes and dislikes, I'm not really one to say someone is wrong for small stuff like that lol.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 08/19/21 10:44:14 AM #380:	except for voth, nobody is going to have her exact face so that's not really a consideration. getting her race right is another story --- pisces <cite>ledbowman posted [p:957231424] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>except for voth, nobody is going to have her exact face so that's not really a consideration. getting her race right is another story </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 08/19/21 10:45:31 AM #381:	This is what she looks like accurate to the source material. Anything with more polygons or hd textures is a deviation and therefore wrong. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:957231453] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote> This is what she looks like accurate to the source material. Anything with more polygons or hd textures is a deviation and therefore wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeantownHero 08/19/21 10:50:14 AM #382:	cuttin_in_farm posted... This dude doesnt see the logic fail of being okay with different face modes playing Jills they created? Why cant this lady also create a Jill appearance? the line is always drawn at black. you think anyone would care if ScarJo or Robbie were playing the part? please --- Black In America https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1527-black-in-america <cite>BeantownHero posted [p:957231561] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite> <quote>This dude doesnt see the logic fail of being okay with different face modes playing Jills they created? Why cant this lady also create a Jill appearance?</quote> the line is always drawn at black. you think anyone would care if ScarJo or Robbie were playing the part? please </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 08/19/21 10:52:48 AM #383:	Its simple. If they hired her because shes the best actor they could find for the role, thats good. If they hired her to fill a diversity quota or for woke points, thats bad. Theres not much to discuss here apart from her acting skill <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:957231622] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>Its simple. If they hired her because shes the best actor they could find for the role, thats good. If they hired her to fill a diversity quota or for woke points, thats bad. Theres not much to discuss here apart from her acting skill </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dirtydog 08/19/21 10:57:29 AM #384:	Kloe_Rinz posted... Its simple. If they hired her because shes the best actor they could find for the role, thats good. If they hired her to fill a diversity quota or for woke points, thats bad. Theres not much to discuss here apart from her acting skill Is there not also such a thing as looking the part? --- "They never pay the slaves enough so they can get free, just enough so they can stay alive and come back to work." - Charles Bukowski <cite>dirtydog posted [p:957231739] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite> <quote>Its simple. If they hired her because shes the best actor they could find for the role, thats good. If they hired her to fill a diversity quota or for woke points, thats bad. Theres not much to discuss here apart from her acting skill</quote> Is there not also such a thing as looking the part? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 08/19/21 11:00:39 AM #385:	dirtydog posted... Is there not also such a thing as looking the part? Thats relevant for characters that actually have a distinguished look. Not someone who changes every game. From their clothing style, face structure, voice, AND fucking personality. Leon is the only MC with consistency in his hair. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:957231810] in do you agr... [t:79618886]...</cite> <quote>dirtydog posted... </cite> <quote>Is there not also such a thing as looking the part?</quote> Thats relevant for characters that actually have a distinguished look. Not someone who changes every game. From their clothing style, face structure, voice, AND fucking personality. Leon is the only MC with consistency in his hair. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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