Current Events > Study finds those with Ph.Ds are the most vaccine hesitant education group

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Houston 08/15/21 2:44:29 PM #1:	"The largest decrease in hesitancy between January and May by education group was in those with a high school education or less. Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group (those with a Ph.D.); by May Ph.D.s were the most hesitant group." https://www.upmc.com/media/news/072621-king-mejia-vaccine-hesitancy --- "Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory." - Dr Seuss <cite>Houston posted [p:957110540] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>"The largest decrease in hesitancy between January and May by education group was in those with a high school education or less. Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group (those with a Ph.D.); by May Ph.D.s were the most hesitant group." https://www.upmc.com/media/news/072621-king-mejia-vaccine-hesitancy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 08/15/21 2:45:38 PM #2:	A PhD is not a MD --- https://imgur.com/u5kY6Yt https://imgur.com/V6HBhkR <cite>Doe posted [p:957110575] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>A PhD is not a MD </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 08/15/21 2:48:03 PM #3:	What point do you think you're making here? --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:957110644] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>What point do you think you're making here? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRadiant 08/15/21 2:50:32 PM #4:	Shezarr posted... What point do you think you're making here? He's trying to disparage the vaccine without breaking the TOS --- She/her <cite>TheRadiant posted [p:957110713] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Shezarr posted... </cite> <quote>What point do you think you're making here?</quote>He's trying to disparage the vaccine without breaking the TOS </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WeeWeiWiiWie 08/15/21 2:51:50 PM #5:	Not sure I buy it with the clear clustering of education but with PhD being a weird outlier, the excel default graphs don't provide me with too much confidence, tbh. --- Stabilized. COVxy alt. <cite>WeeWeiWiiWie posted [p:957110752] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Not sure I buy it with the clear clustering of education but with PhD being a weird outlier, the excel default graphs don't provide me with too much confidence, tbh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 08/15/21 2:52:21 PM #6:	TheRadiant posted... He's trying to disparage the vaccine without breaking the TOS Oh I know what he's trying to do rhetorically, but I'm curious what he thinks this data means. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:957110764] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>TheRadiant posted... </cite> <quote>He's trying to disparage the vaccine without breaking the TOS</quote>Oh I know what he's trying to do rhetorically, but I'm curious what he thinks this data means. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimiHendrix 08/15/21 2:52:26 PM #7:	Shezarr posted... What point do you think you're making here? That its not always worth bragging about having a degree if you suck lol <cite>JimiHendrix posted [p:957110770] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Shezarr posted... </cite> <quote>What point do you think you're making here?</quote> That its not always worth bragging about having a degree if you suck lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Houston 08/15/21 2:52:36 PM #8:	Shezarr posted... What point do you think you're making here? I just find it interesting, is all. I didn't necessarily expect the highest education level to be the most hesitant --- "Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory." - Dr Seuss <cite>Houston posted [p:957110774] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Shezarr posted... </cite> <quote>What point do you think you're making here?</quote> I just find it interesting, is all. I didn't necessarily expect the highest education level to be the most hesitant </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Houston 08/16/21 1:12:14 AM #9:	Any ideas why this education group would be the most hesitant? --- "Sometimes you will never know the value of a moment until it becomes a memory." - Dr Seuss <cite>Houston posted [p:957126487] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Any ideas why this education group would be the most hesitant? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Winrawr 08/16/21 1:15:52 AM #10:	Houston posted... Any ideas why this education group would be the most hesitant? Because you can have a PhD in history and arts vs MD, DNP JD PharmD are rigoursouly trained In a competitive science <cite>Winrawr posted [p:957126551] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Houston posted... </cite> <quote>Any ideas why this education group would be the most hesitant?</quote>Because you can have a PhD in history and arts vs MD, DNP JD PharmD are rigoursouly trained In a competitive science </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
David1988 08/16/21 1:18:27 AM #11:	Doe posted... A PhD is not a MD Thats not to say there isnt a somewhat sizeable portion of MD's who are idiots enough to speak against the vaccine, Doctors for Covid Ethics for instance is one such organization with a couple of hundred doctors that routinely speaks out against the vaccine. You can find idiots of any education level or training. --- "Let's be honest...I'm everybody's type. I just gotta highlight the parts that appeal to her the most" - No_U_L7 <cite>David1988 posted [p:957126589] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite> <quote>A PhD is not a MD</quote> Thats not to say there isnt a somewhat sizeable portion of MD's who are idiots enough to speak against the vaccine, Doctors for Covid Ethics for instance is one such organization with a couple of hundred doctors that routinely speaks out against the vaccine. You can find idiots of any education level or training. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 08/16/21 1:19:23 AM #12:	David1988 posted... Thats not to say there isnt a somewhat sizeable portion of MD's who are idiots enough to speak against the vaccine, Doctors for Covid Ethics for instance is one such organization with a couple of hundred doctors that routinely speaks out against the vaccine. Kind of reminds me of those "architects and engineers for 9/11 truth" people. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:957126604] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>David1988 posted... </cite> <quote>Thats not to say there isnt a somewhat sizeable portion of MD's who are idiots enough to speak against the vaccine, Doctors for Covid Ethics for instance is one such organization with a couple of hundred doctors that routinely speaks out against the vaccine.</quote>Kind of reminds me of those "architects and engineers for 9/11 truth" people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 08/16/21 1:19:33 AM #13:	Winrawr posted... DNP JD PharmD are rigoursouly trained In a competitive science Those are not phds --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:957126609] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Winrawr posted... </cite> <quote>DNP JD PharmD are rigoursouly trained In a competitive science</quote>Those are not phds </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Winrawr 08/16/21 1:21:53 AM #14:	Shezarr posted... Those are not phds They are all doctorate level <cite>Winrawr posted [p:957126654] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Shezarr posted... </cite> <quote>Those are not phds</quote>They are all doctorate level </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
furb 08/16/21 1:23:22 AM #15:	A JD is a doctor of jurisprudence --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane <cite>furb posted [p:957126674] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>A JD is a doctor of jurisprudence </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sutree 08/16/21 1:28:47 AM #16:	Winrawr posted... They are all doctorate level Professional doctorates, which are typically faster to get and lower in "rank" than PhDs. --- It's just that bird law in this country-- it's not governed by reason <cite>sutree posted [p:957126772] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Winrawr posted... </cite> <quote>They are all doctorate level</quote>Professional doctorates, which are typically faster to get and lower in "rank" than PhDs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Winrawr 08/16/21 1:38:13 AM #17:	sutree posted... Professional doctorates, which are typically faster to get and lower in "rank" than PhDs. This is just simply false. There is no ranking system across different fields. Maybe people with phds care about this because they make 50k a year while a nurse crna with a masters works 3 days a week and makes 250k a year. It is a lot harder to get into a crna program then get. A PhD program for history, and even harder to get into an MD program. JD degree value is entirely dependent on your school and ranking within that school. <cite>Winrawr posted [p:957126974] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>sutree posted... </cite> <quote>Professional doctorates, which are typically faster to get and lower in "rank" than PhDs.</quote> This is just simply false. There is no ranking system across different fields. Maybe people with phds care about this because they make 50k a year while a nurse crna with a masters works 3 days a week and makes 250k a year. It is a lot harder to get into a crna program then get. A PhD program for history, and even harder to get into an MD program. JD degree value is entirely dependent on your school and ranking within that school. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 08/16/21 1:45:33 AM #18:	Oh the "nurse" who didn't know lactation rooms were a thing has opinions --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:957127130] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Oh the "nurse" who didn't know lactation rooms were a thing has opinions </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sutree 08/16/21 1:54:22 AM #19:	Winrawr posted... This is just simply false. There is no ranking system across different fields. Professional doctorates aren't even recognized at doctorates in most countries outside of the US. Winrawr posted... It is a lot harder to get into a crna program then get. A PhD program for history, and even harder to get into an MD program. Based on my Google-fu it's looking like History PhD program acceptance rates are lower than 10% but I can't really find an average. CRNA programs are 26%. Medical school is 7%. --- It's just that bird law in this country-- it's not governed by reason <cite>sutree posted [p:957127267] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Winrawr posted... </cite> <quote>This is just simply false. There is no ranking system across different fields.</quote>Professional doctorates aren't even recognized at doctorates in most countries outside of the US. Winrawr posted... </cite> <quote>It is a lot harder to get into a crna program then get. A PhD program for history, and even harder to get into an MD program.</quote>Based on my Google-fu it's looking like History PhD program acceptance rates are lower than 10% but I can't really find an average. CRNA programs are 26%. Medical school is 7%. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
untrustful 08/16/21 2:21:56 AM #20:	When you get to that stratosphere in education, you're kinda living on another planet. --- My Mario Maker Levels https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/untrustful?type=posted <cite>untrustful posted [p:957127675] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>When you get to that stratosphere in education, you're kinda living on another planet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Winrawr 08/16/21 2:41:02 AM #22:	sutree posted... Professional doctorates aren't even recognized at doctorates in most countries outside of the US. Based on my Google-fu it's looking like History PhD program acceptance rates are lower than 10% but I can't really find an average. CRNA programs are 26%. Medical school is 7%. I mean the prereq are massively diff. Nursing undergrad is hardest major to get into, doesn't mean it is the most achieving. Honestly don't understand the purpose of this discussion. What exactly are you trying to say? That getting a history degree is somehow more achieving than professional degrees? Any PhD? Fine. Lol. Personally i prefer making 4x the cash and actually doing something helpful for humanity <cite>Winrawr posted [p:957127949] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>sutree posted... </cite> <quote>Professional doctorates aren't even recognized at doctorates in most countries outside of the US. Based on my Google-fu it's looking like History PhD program acceptance rates are lower than 10% but I can't really find an average. CRNA programs are 26%. Medical school is 7%.</quote>I mean the prereq are massively diff. Nursing undergrad is hardest major to get into, doesn't mean it is the most achieving. Honestly don't understand the purpose of this discussion. What exactly are you trying to say? That getting a history degree is somehow more achieving than professional degrees? Any PhD? Fine. Lol. Personally i prefer making 4x the cash and actually doing something helpful for humanity </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 08/16/21 2:43:17 AM #23:	Winrawr posted... and actually doing something helpful for humanity LMAO. Anti-intellectualism isn't uncommon among fake nurses apparently. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:957127981] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Winrawr posted... </cite> <quote>and actually doing something helpful for humanity</quote>LMAO. Anti-intellectualism isn't uncommon among fake nurses apparently. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 08/16/21 2:49:09 AM #25:	Weird that an actual nurse wouldn't know that lactation rooms are a thing. But sure. Anti-intellectualism is apparently common among actual nurses then. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:957128067] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Weird that an actual nurse wouldn't know that lactation rooms are a thing. But sure. Anti-intellectualism is apparently common among actual nurses then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 08/16/21 2:51:24 AM #26:	Houston posted... Any ideas why this education group would be the most hesitant? protip: If you can't be direct and honest, your point is so shit that you have to hide it. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:957128089] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Houston posted... </cite> <quote>Any ideas why this education group would be the most hesitant?</quote> protip: If you can't be direct and honest, your point is so shit that you have to hide it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Winrawr 08/16/21 2:51:28 AM #27:	Shezarr posted... Weird that an actual nurse wouldn't know that lactation rooms are a thing. But sure. Anti-intellectualism is apparently common among actual nurses then. I'm a Med student too, so i guess future doctors are fucked. <cite>Winrawr posted [p:957128091] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Shezarr posted... </cite> <quote>Weird that an actual nurse wouldn't know that lactation rooms are a thing. But sure. Anti-intellectualism is apparently common among actual nurses then.</quote>I'm a Med student too, so i guess future doctors are fucked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 08/16/21 2:53:05 AM #28:	Winrawr posted... I'm a Med student too, so i guess future doctors are fucked. Seems that way --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:957128116] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Winrawr posted... </cite> <quote>I'm a Med student too, so i guess future doctors are fucked.</quote>Seems that way </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PC-Builder_Pony 08/16/21 2:56:02 AM #29:	Not too surprising --- Mac Book Pro 16 - 6-Core i7-9750H @ 2.60GHz - 32gb DDR4 2667 MHz - Radeon Pro 5500M 8gb - 2TB Apple SSD <cite>PC-Builder_Pony posted [p:957128159] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Not too surprising </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WeeWeiWiiWie 08/16/21 9:27:42 AM #30:	My guess is that this will be pulled/dramatically edited in the coming months. --- Stabilized. COVxy alt. <cite>WeeWeiWiiWie posted [p:957132879] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>My guess is that this will be pulled/dramatically edited in the coming months. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 08/16/21 9:31:23 AM #31:	What's the actual number compared to other educated groups? --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:957132952] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>What's the actual number compared to other educated groups? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 08/16/21 9:36:42 AM #32:	What was the sample size though? If they only had a a handful even 1 anti vax PhD could skew the results from the actual rate. --- My Mario Maker 2 Maker ID is J2K-RFD-K4G Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:957133047] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>What was the sample size though? If they only had a a handful even 1 anti vax PhD could skew the results from the actual rate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 08/16/21 9:41:01 AM #33:	Winrawr posted... Because you can have a PhD in history and arts These are unlikely to be Republican though --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:957133113] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Winrawr posted... </cite> <quote>Because you can have a PhD in history and arts</quote>These are unlikely to be Republican though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joeydollaz 08/16/21 9:42:08 AM #34:	Lies my cousin was one of the first to do this, because he experienced the reality I think the study should be about if you know people that died from this --- PERSONA 6 will NOT be Turn Based, Feb-25th 2021 <cite>Joeydollaz posted [p:957133139] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Lies my cousin was one of the first to do this, because he experienced the reality I think the study should be about if you know people that died from this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pistachio12 08/16/21 10:20:19 AM #35:	Houston posted... Any ideas why this education group would be the most hesitant? A study of the incidence of kidney cancer in the 3,141 counties of the United States reveals a remarkable pattern. The counties in which the incidence of kidney cancer is lowest are mostly rural, sparsely populated, and located in traditionally Republican states in the Midwest, the South, and the West. What do you make of this? ... Now consider the counties in which the incidence of kidney cancer is highest. These ailing counties tend to be mostly rural, sparsely populated, and located in traditionally Republican states in the Midwest, the South, and the West. ... The key factor is not that the counties were rural or predominantly Republican. It is that rural counties have small populations. This simply could be a typical confidence interval flaw of data from a smaller population group. Comments on this site help to explain other discrepancies as well : https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.20.21260795v1.article-metrics <cite>pistachio12 posted [p:957133976] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Houston posted... </cite> <quote>Any ideas why this education group would be the most hesitant?</quote> <quote>A study of the incidence of kidney cancer in the 3,141 counties of the United States reveals a remarkable pattern. The counties in which the incidence of kidney cancer is lowest are mostly rural, sparsely populated, and located in traditionally Republican states in the Midwest, the South, and the West. What do you make of this? ... Now consider the counties in which the incidence of kidney cancer is highest. These ailing counties tend to be mostly rural, sparsely populated, and located in traditionally Republican states in the Midwest, the South, and the West. ... The key factor is not that the counties were rural or predominantly Republican. It is that rural counties have small populations.</quote> This simply could be a typical confidence interval flaw of data from a smaller population group. Comments on this site help to explain other discrepancies as well : https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.20.21260795v1.article-metrics </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 08/16/21 10:33:15 AM #36:	Outside of PhDs there's a clear downward trend in hesitancy as level of education increases, so I'm guessing it's an issue with sample size --- https://imgur.com/kkm3QaD "Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people." <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:957134248] in Study find... [t:79615174]...</cite> <quote>Outside of PhDs there's a clear downward trend in hesitancy as level of education increases, so I'm guessing it's an issue with sample size </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Study finds those with Ph.Ds are the most vaccine hesitant education group