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skermac
08/02/21 3:11:19 PM
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Ive been on the internet since late 90s and this topic is first ive heard of chris chan, who is it and what happened

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Ryuko_Chan
08/02/21 3:11:31 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
You knew you were, too
Yep more insults because you lost an argument. I cba

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TheRadiant
08/02/21 3:12:33 PM
#103:


skermac posted...
Ive been on the internet since late 90s and this topic is first ive heard of chris chan, who is it and what happened
I only heard of this person the other day when this story broke out, it's weird how people seem so familiar with them that they drop their parent's actual names

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Turbam
08/02/21 3:14:22 PM
#105:


skermac posted...
Ive been on the internet since late 90s and this topic is first ive heard of chris chan, who is it and what happened
Don't look into it.
Just leave it alone, don't bother learning anything about it.

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Ryuko_Chan
08/02/21 3:14:39 PM
#106:


shockthemonkey posted...
What is insulting about that?
Hmm I dont know.

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skermac
08/02/21 3:14:44 PM
#107:


Well I just googled and found out its someone that was arrested for incest

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CoorsLight
08/02/21 3:15:15 PM
#108:


Speaking as a cis person, so maybe I'm off base... I feel bad for trans people since this seems like a no win situation. I'm sure that they would be happy to not have to be associated with Chris Chan, but it's also a slippery slope to let others decide if someone is "faking" their dysphoria (granted this already happens, but not usually by supposed allies). And on the legal side, it's gotta be tough that this could be a flashpoint for trans rights, but with such a heinous crime and someone who may not even understand what dysphoria really is, you either have to watch your rights possibly erode or root indirectly for an incestual rapist. And no I'm not talking about the mother daughter laws, that should be illegal even if it's a cis daughter, but maybe some other rights get attacked.

Anyways it's not hard to just use "they" if you don't believe them

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Solution_45
08/02/21 3:15:30 PM
#109:


skermac posted...
Ive been on the internet since late 90s and this topic is first ive heard of chris chan, who is it and what happened

mentally ill dude that raped his own mom
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Trumble
08/02/21 3:15:39 PM
#110:


TheRadiant posted...
I only heard of this person the other day when this story broke out, it's weird how people seem so familiar with them that they drop their parent's actual names

I don't tend to be the most knowledgable when it comes to lolcows, but I've been aware of this weirdo for at least 10 years or so now... I can't see how anyone could be in communities like GameFAQs and not be aware of them, tbh.

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Zikten
08/02/21 3:15:46 PM
#111:


TheRadiant posted...

I only heard of this person the other day when this story broke out, it's weird how people seem so familiar with them that they drop their parent's actual names

I only know of Chris from a lets play channel that talks about them alot called OneyPlays. Like 90% of my Chris knowledge is from OneyPlays. Chris is a 39 year old autistic person who has been a "lol cow" for 20 years online

Basically a rich source of fun from trolls. I think most of Chris's exploits are results of being trolled
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CRON
08/02/21 3:17:20 PM
#112:


I use male pronouns to refer to Chris because Chris transitioned into a woman because he believed it would make it easier for him to find a girlfriend. Chris has an extremely-limited, almost toddler-like view of gender and gender roles. He simply doesn't understand what being "trans" is, and likens his transition and womanhood as simply a means of getting closer to women.

What's been incredibly frustrating is how Chris' recent (steep) decline in mental health is largely due to a number of enablers and legitimate (yes, legitimate) fans that support Chris only because he's trans.

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Ryuko_Chan
08/02/21 3:18:14 PM
#113:


CoorsLight posted...
Speaking as a cis person, so maybe I'm off base... I feel bad for trans people since this seems like a no win situation. I'm sure that they would be happy to not have to be associated with Chris Chan, but it's also a slippery slope to let others decide if someone is "faking" their dysphoria (granted this already happens, but not usually by supposed allies). And on the legal side, it's gotta be tough that this could be a flashpoint for trans rights, but with such a heinous crime and someone who may not even understand what dysphoria really is, you either have to watch your rights possibly erode or root indirectly for an incestual rapist. And no I'm not talking about the mother daughter laws, that should be illegal even if it's a cis daughter, but maybe some other rights get attacked.

Anyways it's not hard to just use "they" if you don't believe them
Exactly. But these people instead are just jerking themselves off to how moral they are. They dont care what happens to trans people. Theyre perfectly fine painting a big target on our back so long as they get to own someone on the internet.

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CoorsLight
08/02/21 3:19:29 PM
#114:


I wouldn't doubt it all that it's true, based on what I know about Chris Chan, but it still costs you nothing to use they/them
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Iron-Tarkus
08/02/21 3:19:37 PM
#115:


Ryuko_Chan posted...
Also I dont really care what cis people think is transphobic ngl. It doesnt mean anything to me.
It shouldnt matter but Im also trans and think your take is wack as hell, for reasons people already went over.

Ryuko_Chan posted...
Sure is some great trans advocacy. Yeah just make sure that when people think of trans women they think of Chris fucking Chan the rapist. Great. Thanks for the help.
If a singular trans person being a rapist is enough to tarnish someones views on trans people you shouldnt care what they think. Focusing on optics and presentability to cater to bigots is a zero sum game.

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Ryuko_Chan
08/02/21 3:20:51 PM
#116:


Iron-Tarkus posted...
Focusing on optics and presentability to cater to bigots is a zero sum game.
really isnt

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One_Day_Remains
08/02/21 3:21:22 PM
#117:


"painting a big target on our back" lmao

You can't even make up your own mind on whether you're trans or not, don't include yourself in that group. If you just said "Chris Chan isn't trans because they've done no transitioning" and not any of that stupid shit about rape then we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
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Ryuko_Chan
08/02/21 3:22:23 PM
#118:


One_Day_Remains posted...
"painting a big target on our back" lmao

You can't even make up your own mind on whether you're trans or not, don't include yourself in that group. If you just said "Chris Chan isn't trans because they've done no transitioning" and not any of that stupid shit about rape then we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
if youre going to include him but not me thats all I need to know to know youre trolling

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One_Day_Remains
08/02/21 3:24:54 PM
#119:


I didn't include them though.

You literally made a valid point about Chris not being trans at first and then made a really stupid one.
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Ryuko_Chan
08/02/21 3:27:32 PM
#120:


ok then Im still right

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CRON
08/02/21 3:30:20 PM
#122:


Ryuko_Chan posted...
Exactly. But these people instead are just jerking themselves off to how moral they are. They dont care what happens to trans people. Theyre perfectly fine painting a big target on our back so long as they get to own someone on the internet.
This isn't a trans issue. Chris isn't really transgender. He "transitioned" because he believed it'd make it easier to find a girlfriend. He just doesn't truly grasp what gender is.

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Trumble
08/02/21 3:32:23 PM
#123:


shockthemonkey posted...
I think calling trans people evil manipulators who forced cis people to transition is a much bigger target than someone who is only seen as a punchline up until this point.
It sounds more to me like people are saying a bunch of 4chan-type trolls (with no specific implication as to whether they're cis or trans, and/or male or female) "forced" Chris to do it, not that "trans people" did.

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SadHumanBeing
08/02/21 3:36:00 PM
#125:


Imagine how deplorable, morally bankrupt and void of empathy for others one must be that upon hearing about a RAPE CASE, one's highest level of concern is ensuring the RAPIST be referred to by their preferred pronouns, with absolutely no shits given toward the actual victim here.

Some of you are so gross.

Stay away from society.

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One_Day_Remains
08/02/21 3:38:46 PM
#126:


SadHumanBeing posted...
Imagine how deplorable, morally bankrupt and void of empathy for others one must be that upon hearing about a RAPE CASE, one's highest level of concern is ensuring the RAPIST be referred to by their preferred pronouns, with absolutely no shits given toward the actual victim here.

Some of you are so gross.

Stay away from society.


Shut the fuck up. Nobody is doing that.
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Iron-Tarkus
08/02/21 3:40:44 PM
#127:


SadHumanBeing posted...
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Fitting account name

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nfearurspecimn
08/02/21 3:50:51 PM
#129:


welp got warned for shitting on chris chan lol

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Trumble
08/02/21 3:55:41 PM
#130:


nfearurspecimn posted...
welp got warned for shitting on chris chan lol
No, that's not what they got warned for; that's just something else they were doing at the same time. They were being undeniably sexist, and very arguably transphobic, throughout the entire topic.

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Kanaya413
08/02/21 3:56:10 PM
#131:


Heliogabalus posted...
Its been interesting to see so many people go full mask off with the transphobia in any discussion about the situation.
No surprise honestly
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nothanks1
08/02/21 3:56:26 PM
#132:


see ce? if you mark them they'll get warned
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coolpal23
08/02/21 3:59:32 PM
#133:


Wow I had no idea Ryuko was like that

What a crummy person lol

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nothanks1
08/02/21 4:01:46 PM
#134:


That poster's been trolling here since they first arrived when they were 'apparently' 14

I sincerely doubt they're only 19 or whatever age it is now
Most likely it's a middle age adult
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IronChef_Kirby
08/02/21 4:02:01 PM
#135:


Seeing people misgender her reminds me of my dad who tosses the n-word around but insists that he isnt racist because he only uses it toward select targets.

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CRON
08/02/21 4:03:39 PM
#136:


IronChef_Kirby posted...
Seeing people misgender her reminds me of my dad who tosses the n-word around but insists that he isnt racist because he only uses it toward select targets.
I'm 110% supportive of trans rights but I choose to not refer to Chris with female pronouns. As I've mentioned before, he knows next to nothing about the concept of gender and decided to transition because he figured it'd make it easier for him to find a girlfriend. The only priority Chris ever had was finding a woman to replace his mother with.

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nfearurspecimn
08/02/21 4:10:44 PM
#138:


Naysaspace posted...
Calling CWC "her" is also misgendering CWC because CWC prefers to go by "Them" and "they"

so all these self-righteous sjw defenders who keep saying "her" need to get their heads out of their asses and stop pretending they aren't frauds as well. its ok to admit you don't know. Simply assuming that CWC goes by "her" is terrible, hypocritical, and flat-out-moronic behaviour.
hope they see this bro

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One_Day_Remains
08/02/21 4:11:23 PM
#139:


nfearurspecimn posted...
welp got warned for shitting on chris chan lol


Yes they got warned for doing what literally everyone else ITT is doing and not for saying shit like "Rape is largely a male crime"
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nfearurspecimn
08/02/21 4:14:08 PM
#141:


its the initials of chris chans IRL name

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Zikten
08/02/21 4:15:36 PM
#142:


shockthemonkey posted...

Ill be honest I dont even know what cwc stands for

Chris Weston Chandler I believe

It's his full name
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One_Day_Remains
08/02/21 4:17:23 PM
#143:


It stands for CruiserWeight Classic
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nfearurspecimn
08/02/21 4:17:42 PM
#144:


One_Day_Remains posted...
It stands for CruiserWeight Classic
idgi

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SadHumanBeing
08/02/21 4:20:13 PM
#145:


One_Day_Remains posted...
Shut the fuck up. Nobody is doing that.
Happened in this very topic random new alt guy.

Get over yourself.

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One_Day_Remains
08/02/21 5:09:50 PM
#147:


SadHumanBeing posted...

Happened in this very topic random new alt guy.

Get over yourself.


"New alt guy". Lmao this account is literally older than yours
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Heliogabalus
08/02/21 11:08:27 PM
#148:


IronChef_Kirby posted...
Seeing people misgender her reminds me of my dad who tosses the n-word around but insists that he isnt racist because he only uses it toward select targets.

I feel like this is a very apt comparison.

What CWC did was absolutely heinous and monstrous, but lets not pretend that these self appointed gatekeepers dont feel the same way about other people who dont meet the requirements for what they believe should be considered trans.

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SadHumanBeing
08/03/21 9:14:44 AM
#149:


"Guys, let's ensure that we treat the RAPIST with a penis with the utmost dignity and respect or you're a bigot!" *pats self on back*

Never mind the fact the RAPE VICTIM had her dignity literally raped from her.

Get off your high horses you absolutely grotesque individuals. People using this as an opportunity for their performative fake progressiveness is grotesquely abhorrent. A majority of the people in this topic seemingly don't even give a shit a person was repeatedly raped. It's astonishing you'd even want to associate this person with general trans rights and activism.

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CyricZ
08/03/21 9:19:48 AM
#150:


SadHumanBeing posted...
Get off your high horses you absolutely grotesque individuals.
How about you not use a horrible person as a vehicle for your bigotry against a wider group. Is that too much to ask for?

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Uta
08/03/21 10:55:58 AM
#151:


I've had to mark pretty close to half the posts in this thread, so I'm going to close this rather than let this dicussion continue.

First, some important facts. Chris-Chan is Trans and uses She/Her pronouns. You can see this on her twitter profile. https://twitter.com/CPU_CWCSonichu?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Referring to transwomen with singular They / Them pronouns DOES count as misgendering. You know she uses She / Her, and you've chosen to go against that because you don't respect her. And finally, Christine has been trans for over a decade. She does take HRT. She did not transition because she wanted to get laid. Her obsession with women was a manifestation of her dysphoria, and after coming out she largely stopped talking about trying to find a "boyfriendless girl". The same is also true of her intense homophobia that she expressed in Sonichu.

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