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DarkRoast
07/29/21 10:19:03 PM
#51:


I've been farming Ayaka gear and in the process dramatically upgraded Tartaglia's gear and holy shit does he scale hardcore with good investment

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Tyranthraxus
07/29/21 10:25:05 PM
#52:


DarkRoast posted...
I've been farming Ayaka gear and in the process dramatically upgraded Tartaglia's gear and holy shit does he scale hardcore with good investment

He scales better with more enemies lmao. His single target damage is so bad compared to what he does when surrounded by Hilichurls.

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Irony
07/29/21 10:26:11 PM
#53:


Have to settle for this. Crit damage will be higher once I ascend Ayaka and finish leveling Mistsplitter



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DarkRoast
07/29/21 10:27:59 PM
#54:


Tyranthraxus posted...
He scales better with more enemies lmao. His single target damage is so bad compared to what he does when surrounded by Hilichurls.

Well that I know, but the shit he can do with really good gear against a bunch of enemies is legendary.

I don't care what anyone says, Tartaglia is the shit.


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Tyranthraxus
07/30/21 2:01:41 AM
#55:


57 GET



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Jshipp24
07/30/21 6:49:40 AM
#56:


Alright i've finally finished the story to this point and can come out of self imposed exile. I'm not too sure how I feel about Ayaka at this point. She feels kinda fun to play but her kit doesn't really "mesh" with itself imo. Her Ult does a lot of damage but otherwise you want to mix in a lot of charge attacks from what i've seen. I've paired her with Xingque and that works as far as freezing goes so maybe i'll try her with different comps to see.

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DarkRoast
07/30/21 10:06:47 AM
#57:


I prefer Ayaka + Fischl. You can shift back and forth between Phys DMG and Cryo while superconducting. But yeah, Ayaka is kind of weird and, imo, a bit clunky.

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Tyranthraxus
07/30/21 11:08:13 AM
#58:


The PMA quest unlocked today and I gotta say fighting that thing 11 times in a row with zero variance is not really my idea of fun. It reminds me of the cryo regisvine quest from 1.3. maybe I'll do it in co-op.

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Noraneko_Vel
07/30/21 11:14:26 AM
#59:


empowered cryo regisvine was at least new and challenging for 1-2 attempts.

this is just fighting the same PMA over and over after we already grinded the shit out of it for Ayaka

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Irony
07/30/21 12:11:29 PM
#60:


Tyranthraxus posted...
57 GET

Damn I still got a couple of weeks

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Aitz
07/30/21 12:33:14 PM
#61:


Lol, they should have given us 5 acquainted fates after AR 55 because its so damn long to level up after 55

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Tyranthraxus
07/30/21 12:40:35 PM
#62:


Aitz posted...
Lol, they should have given us 5 acquainted fates after AR 55 because its so damn long to level up after 55
You get 5 at 60.

Honestly though this game needs to be a lot more generous with Acquaint Fates. The character rewards were a nice idea but there needs to be a replenishing source. Like, after hitting reputation 10, doing 3 bounties in that area gives an Acquaint Fate.

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Lukey_Bug
07/30/21 1:13:56 PM
#63:


Tyranthraxus posted...
57 GET


Just got there yesterday. Now just another 280000+ to 58!

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Noraneko_Vel
07/30/21 1:20:51 PM
#64:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Honestly though this game needs to be a lot more generous with Acquaint Fates. The character rewards were a nice idea but there needs to be a replenishing source. Like, after hitting reputation 10, doing 3 bounties in that area gives an Acquaint Fate.

in my opinion it'll happen soon, or maybe at Sumeru, because you lose the need to be stingy when the standard pool is very underwhelming compared to limited one and when the game have a very high character count.

We're at the point where permanent 5*s are becoming weak compared to recent limited chars.

Kokomi and Sayu will possibly be superior to Qiqi's healing (happens constantly together with damage and reactions).
Jean has cleansing and volleyballing, but otherwise Sayu may be superior.
Diluc can be inferior to all other 5* pyros and even Yanfei can be a better choice coz of high range, double shield drain, C4 self shielding and free C6 CA spam.
Keqing suffers from being electro main dps without utility (however, Sara C6 + Kazuha might skyrocket her dps!)
Mona has her omen and taunt, but otherwise Kokomi might completely replace her for hydro application with 100% uptime and healing.

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DarkRoast
07/30/21 2:49:16 PM
#65:


Dude you can get a million mora from today's event

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Tyranthraxus
07/30/21 3:01:32 PM
#66:


Noraneko_Vel posted...
in my opinion it'll happen soon, or maybe at Sumeru, because you lose the need to be stingy when the standard pool is very underwhelming compared to limited one and when the game have a very high character count.

We're at the point where permanent 5*s are becoming weak compared to recent limited chars.

Kokomi and Sayu will possibly be superior to Qiqi's healing (happens constantly together with damage and reactions).
Jean has cleansing and volleyballing, but otherwise Sayu may be superior.
Diluc can be inferior to all other 5* pyros and even Yanfei can be a better choice coz of high range, double shield drain, C4 self shielding and free C6 CA spam.
Keqing suffers from being electro main dps without utility (however, Sara C6 + Kazuha might skyrocket her dps!)
Mona has her omen and taunt, but otherwise Kokomi might completely replace her for hydro application with 100% uptime and healing.
Sayu's reaction healing is garbage. It's literally just 300 HP + 1.2 HP for every point of EM you have. Giving her an extremely generous 600 EM, that roughly translates to 1020 HP every 2 seconds max. It's meant to be on par with things like Jean's passive attack heal.

Meanwhile Qiqi's talisman can be inflicted at all times even when her burst is down and heals proportionally to the damage you do functionally scaling with the scaling itself.

Sayu is simply going to be a side grade to Bennett. She'll have better healing since she can heal up to 100% while Bennett can't but her other contributions as a support are lackluster. Additionally there's no EM claymores except Rain slasher and Bloodstained which are both terrible.

There's no hope of her even coming close to replacing Jean and definitely can't heal better than Qiqi.

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Aitz
07/30/21 3:02:11 PM
#67:


Okay guys, need some input on Xingqiu. I use him in Spiral Abyss as a Hu Tao vape support and I can kill things but I have seen videos where Xingqiu's burst does a shit ton of damage with the main dps so what stats should I aim for him? How much Atk/Crit Rate/Crit Dmg for him and should I continue going for Nobless Oblige?

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Tyranthraxus
07/30/21 3:07:38 PM
#68:


Aitz posted...
Okay guys, need some input on Xingqiu. I use him in Spiral Abyss as a Hu Tao vape support and I can kill things but I have seen videos where Xingqiu's burst does a shit ton of damage with the main dps so what stats should I aim for him? How much Atk/Crit Rate/Crit Dmg for him and should I continue going for Nobless Oblige?
I'd argue the energy recharge set is better for XQ than NO at this point. You can put NO on someone else like Bennett.

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Noraneko_Vel
07/30/21 4:42:46 PM
#69:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Sayu's reaction healing is garbage. It's literally just 300 HP + 1.2 HP for every point of EM you have. Giving her an extremely generous 600 EM, that roughly translates to 1020 HP every 2 seconds max. It's meant to be on par with things like Jean's passive attack heal.

lol "extremely generous"? Reaching 800 EM is easy, going beyond that is tough without buffs. And yeah, it's 1260 HP heals for the whole group every 2 seconds every swirl.
At C1, should you get hit, you fall below 70% hp and Sayu's tanuki will immediately restore your health each tick until you go back to 70% (from which point the swirl healing will keep you safe).

Then C6 will have the tanuki scale on EM, too.

Tyranthraxus posted...
It's meant to be on par with things like Jean's passive attack heal.

Jean wastes your field time with her insignificant passive attack damage, Sayu does this whole thing in 1 press and adds shred, swirl, at C6 EM scaled tanuki damage.

Tyranthraxus posted...
Meanwhile Qiqi's talisman can be inflicted at all times even when her burst is down

Both have long cooldowns and as much as I love Qiqi, she doesn't grant you any utility.

Tyranthraxus posted...
Sayu is simply going to be a side grade to Bennett

Reminder Bennett is the best healer char only for his massive buff and pyro synergy. She doesn't replace him nor is a "side grade", they're used in different groups

Tyranthraxus posted...
Additionally there's no EM claymores except Rain slasher and Bloodstained which are both terrible.

Yeah, but just having EM means a lot to her and Rainslasher might be a big benefit in fireworks teams, but I don't know.

Tyranthraxus posted...
There's no hope of her even coming close to replacing Jean and definitely can't heal better than Qiqi

More like there is no hope for a waste of field time like Jean to even come close to being as useful as Sayu and people already treat Qiqi like the worst char for only healing, while Sayu has a very good kit for keeping everyone at 100% HP, grants good utility on top of it.

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Raikuro
07/30/21 5:22:41 PM
#70:


Reminder Sayu's swirl healing only kicks in while she's active on the field. If she drops her tanuki burst and leaves, none of the swirls will be healing. Only the tanuki's direct heals will work. Sayu's burst just seems like a weaker version of Jean's with some limitations. Which isn't a bad thing, she just seems like a budget Jean.
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DarkRoast
07/30/21 5:24:40 PM
#71:


My C3 Eula utterly decimated this boss fight event.

In any case, as you'd expect this is what happens if you "invite" Beidou if you're already at C6



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DarkRoast
07/30/21 5:46:32 PM
#72:




WISH ME LUCK GUYZ

EDIT:



Don't mind if I do!

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Noraneko_Vel
07/30/21 5:46:42 PM
#73:


Raikuro posted...
Reminder Sayu's swirl healing only kicks in while she's active on the field

Wait, her passive seriously only works while she's on-field? That's...quite meaningless?

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Tyranthraxus
07/30/21 6:04:34 PM
#74:


Noraneko_Vel posted...
Wait, her passive seriously only works while she's on-field? That's...quite meaningless?
Unless honey impact got the description wrong that's exactly how it works.

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Raikuro
07/30/21 6:24:39 PM
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Just saying, Sayu's healing seems a lot more restricted than you might realize. Especially since honey impact doesn't really specify the "specific intervals" on her burst. Diona's healing really sucks because of its intervals and it's only saved by having quick shield access.
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DarkRoast
07/30/21 6:39:05 PM
#76:


Bennett and Noelle are the best healers, albeit for different reasons.

Noelle is a safe and guaranteed way to heal the entire party, and Bennett's healing is so damn fast it's comical

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Jshipp24
07/30/21 6:50:57 PM
#77:


So how does everyone feel about Baal so far? Ngl felt kinda mad getting beat by her in the cutscene and me being dumb I bring my Electro Keqing into the fight to watch her do nothing. I'm really curious how this is all going to turn out since it seems like there has to be a 3rd party almost to come to conclusion.

Also the leaks for her skills makes seem like she's going to be a monster support/sub dps. People sleeping on her damage but I see the potential although it doesn't seem like she'll be main dps potential due to her up times unfortunately.

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Tyranthraxus
07/30/21 6:58:38 PM
#78:


Jshipp24 posted...
So how does everyone feel about Baal so far? Ngl felt kinda mad getting beat by her in the cutscene and me being dumb I bring my Electro Keqing into the fight to watch her do nothing. I'm really curious how this is all going to turn out since it seems like there has to be a 3rd party almost to come to conclusion.

Also the leaks for her skills makes seem like she's going to be a monster support/sub dps. People sleeping on her damage but I see the potential although it doesn't seem like she'll be main dps potential due to her up times unfortunately.

Her damage sounds like it's going to be bad unless you get the grass cutter in which case it's going to be pretty good but still falling short of Ganyu or Xiao. Seems like Mihoyo is aiming for Archons to all be in support roles.

She looks like she will pair amazingly well with Xingqiu and Childe. The infusion is at odds with cryo however and melee overload only works on stagger immune enemies.

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Jshipp24
07/30/21 7:20:17 PM
#79:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Her damage sounds like it's going to be bad unless you get the grass cutter in which case it's going to be pretty good but still falling short of Ganyu or Xiao. Seems like Mihoyo is aiming for Archons to all be in support roles.

She looks like she will pair amazingly well with Xingqiu and Childe. The infusion is at odds with cryo however and melee overload only works on stagger immune enemies.
I wouldn't compare her damage output to pure carries imo. I wish she was a pure dps especially based off what we've seen but it is what it is. I think she'll be better then most people give her credit for on a comp based around her energy recharge.

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Irony
07/30/21 7:21:18 PM
#80:


I am just flabbergasted



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ANort175
07/30/21 7:25:14 PM
#81:


Irony posted...
I am just flabbergasted


That thing's gonna be lit if Noelle and Childe ever hook up and have a kid.

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Irony
07/30/21 7:29:57 PM
#82:


ANort175 posted...
That thing's gonna be lit if Noelle and Childe ever hook up and have a kid.
Tbf it's better than the one my Mona had before. Old one was flat atk, def, hp, and ER with 3 in atk and 1 in HP.

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ChrisTaka
07/30/21 7:38:54 PM
#83:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Seems like Mihoyo is aiming for Archons to all be in support roles.

I kinda assumed the Archons would be the best at their element:

Geo make shields and Zhongli has the best shield. Ameno is known for CC and Venti has one of if not the best CC in the game. Baal is electro so unless her multipliers were crazy high being a support was a given.

So I'm basically under the assumption that the Pyro archon and/or The Tsaritsa are gonna be absolutely broken when it comes to DPS.

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Tyranthraxus
07/30/21 7:44:08 PM
#84:


ChrisTaka posted...
I kinda assumed the Archons would be the best at their element:

Geo make shields and Zhongli has the best shield. Ameno is known for CC and Venti has one of if not the best CC in the game. Baal is electro so unless her multipliers were crazy high being a support was a given.

So I'm basically under the assumption that the Pyro archon and/or The Tsaritsa are gonna be absolutely broken when it comes to DPS.

Pyro is probably gonna come with an insane attack buffing archon, cryo will come with a crit buffer or potentially a guaranteed crit and hydro archon is gonna be a healer of some kind.

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DarkRoast
07/30/21 7:50:09 PM
#85:


Irony posted...
I am just flabbergasted


Hydro Noelle would love that

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Noraneko_Vel
07/30/21 8:11:29 PM
#86:


Ayaka 10/8/10, leveling complete!
And since I was already in the menu, I randomly rose Klee from 10/8/8 to 10/9/9.


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Noraneko_Vel
07/31/21 12:32:39 AM
#87:


Seems like I have all artifacts and weapons ready for Sayu (full EM gear and crit balance, ATK, Recharge mixed into substats). Gonna try Rainslasher.

And Kokomi (actually have 3 good +20 circlet variations with HP% main stat, Healing Power with high HP substats and Healing Power with very high ATK% stat). Going to try 2x Heart of Depth (hydro power), 2x Maiden's (scales healing power additionally directly into damage multipliers?). Will try Sacrificial R2, but Amber R2 is an option. There's still enough time to collect more refinements for both.

That means I'm all out of urgent things to spend resin on, guess I should grind Ayaka's Blizzard gear, reducing my critrate with cryo resonance closer to something like 80-90%, and trying to raise critdmg all the way to 250% if possible?
My circlet and goblet in particular are kinda bad

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Jshipp24
07/31/21 3:13:18 AM
#88:


I think I might go space whale for C6 Baal tbh. Her CD reduction for all teammates burst is probably one of the most broken things in the game besides perma CC, that and I might be a Electro Stan somewhat. She's probably the last character I go C6 for even though I'm pretty sure I said that about Eula lol

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Tyranthraxus
07/31/21 3:22:21 AM
#89:


Jshipp24 posted...
I think I might go space whale for C6 Baal tbh. Her CD reduction for all teammates burst is probably one of the most broken things in the game besides perma CC, that and I might be a Electro Stan somewhat. She's probably the last character I go C6 for even though I'm pretty sure I said that about Eula lol

It'll take about $1000 unless you get really lucky or really unlucky.

Honestly it's not worth it but it's your money spend it on whatever makes you happy. Remember Yae Mika is also Electro.

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Jshipp24
07/31/21 6:44:43 AM
#90:


Tyranthraxus posted...
It'll take about $1000 unless you get really lucky or really unlucky.

Honestly it's not worth it but it's your money spend it on whatever makes you happy. Remember Yae Mika is also Electro.
I got super lucky with Eula, but the game was basically throwing her at me so I don't expect that to happen again. Unless Yae is extremely interesting I'll probably just get one copy of her and move one. But honestly I know it's not worth it at all but I'm not sure it matters too much at the same time.

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DarkRoast
07/31/21 9:28:00 AM
#91:


Forget Baal, have you guys heard the good news about Lord Barbatos?




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DarkRoast
07/31/21 11:25:52 AM
#92:


Why is Electro Traveler's E cool down 10 freaking seconds what the fuck

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Tyranthraxus
07/31/21 11:45:06 AM
#93:


DarkRoast posted...
Why is Electro Traveler's E cool down 10 freaking seconds what the fuck
You can reduce it by making other characters pick up the magatama shit they drop on the ground.

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DarkRoast
07/31/21 12:14:20 PM
#94:


Tyranthraxus posted...
You can reduce it by making other characters pick up the magatama shit they drop on the ground.

What a bizarre mechanic

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Tyranthraxus
07/31/21 12:18:41 PM
#95:


DarkRoast posted...
What a bizarre mechanic
Well not completely. It's clear the intention is for you to swap in, push a button or 2, then swap out for a maindps.

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SifPack
07/31/21 1:02:00 PM
#96:


Jshipp24 posted...
So how does everyone feel about Baal so far?
Had my sights set on Yae (purely for waifu-ness)

Then Baal said "Next time, I will strike twice"

Now I don't know what to do anymore
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Tyranthraxus
07/31/21 1:14:04 PM
#97:


I ran into a really weird bug on my device.

Apparently Genshin Impact really does not like it when you retry a domain in co-op while the phone is charging. Exiting and going back in is fine though.

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Sayoria
07/31/21 2:05:08 PM
#98:




Here, we roll.....

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ChrisTaka
07/31/21 2:08:08 PM
#99:


Sayoria posted...


Here, we roll.....

That's a pretty godlike looking circlet

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Sayoria
07/31/21 2:22:21 PM
#100:




Not godlike, but okay I guess. Definitely better than my last hat.

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