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Xethuminra
07/27/21 10:39:09 PM
#101:


Bring out the alts!
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Doom_Art
07/27/21 10:39:13 PM
#102:


Duncan you're a guy in his 30s without a job, quit talking lol

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QueenCarly
07/27/21 10:39:22 PM
#103:


Duncanwii posted...
If you're going to swear at me I'll put you on ignore.

Oh no, not a curse word! Duncan, you say far worse things on a daily basis than fuck.

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scorpion41
07/27/21 10:40:00 PM
#104:


Jiggy101011 posted...
Maybe I'm missing something but that gets you 63k a year before taxes.

Thats still more than some degreed professionals. Thats definitely more than a lot of trade work. Minimum wage should be $9-10/hr MAX. You want more money? Go learn a trade.

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Questionmarktarius
07/27/21 10:40:31 PM
#105:


Umbreon posted...
If a business can't afford to pay their workers a living wage, maybe that business should die.
Or, you know, move the factories to Bangladesh or something, where the alleged "living wage" is much cheaper.
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--Zero-
07/27/21 10:42:19 PM
#106:


Now to start attacking the real problem being housing costs.

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Vicious_Dios
07/27/21 10:42:55 PM
#107:


scorpion41 posted...
Thats still more than some degreed professionals. Thats definitely more than a lot of trade work. Minimum wage should be $9-10/hr MAX. You want more money? Go learn a trade.

They don't want to address this. They would rather verbally abuse Duncan.

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Xethuminra
07/27/21 10:43:00 PM
#108:


--Zero- posted...
Now to start attacking the real problem being housing costs.
Roommates tho!

Living alone is a luxury
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Duncanwii
07/27/21 10:43:33 PM
#109:


Umbreon posted...
Duncan.

Do you have a job? Yes or No?

I fail to see how thats relevant. I can understand basic economics even without one.
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--Zero-
07/27/21 10:43:38 PM
#110:


Xethuminra posted...
Roommates tho!

Living alone is a luxury

No lol

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Veggeta_MAX
07/27/21 10:44:48 PM
#111:


Jiggy101011 posted...
Maybe I'm missing something but that gets you 63k a year before taxes.


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QueenCarly
07/27/21 10:45:24 PM
#112:


Vicious_Dios posted...
They don't want to address this. They would rather verbally abuse Duncan.

There is nothing to address. Minimum wage was created with the intent for it to be a living wage. It has not been allowed to raise with inflation to be that.

Maybe the real answer is that those degreed positions and the tradespeople are also not paying enough.

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Vicious_Dios
07/27/21 10:45:39 PM
#113:


'32 hours an hour'

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QueenCarly
07/27/21 10:45:55 PM
#114:


Duncanwii posted...
I fail to see how thats relevant. I can understand basic economics even without one.

You can theoretically, but you don't.

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DeathDeathSong
07/27/21 10:47:19 PM
#115:


seeing duncan and veedee get fucking wrecked this topic is so great, ya love to see it

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Eramir
07/27/21 10:48:25 PM
#116:


Hey Dorito fingers,

No one would even earn 67k a year because employers who pay only minimum wages hardly ever let their works get close 40 hours a week (that would require them to provide benefits).

Second. You act like 67k a year is a lot of money... it's not that's barely enough for a living.
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Trumpo
07/27/21 10:48:51 PM
#117:


ColdRainAndSnow posted...
Its also sad to see some one getting paid $17 an hour and then get upset when wages hike up to $17 how come I didnt get a raise? Capitalism is designed so poor people start fighting against each other
Cali, NY and some of New England.
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Veggeta_MAX
07/27/21 10:49:25 PM
#118:


Vicious_Dios posted...
'32 hours an hour'


I dunno what @Jiggy101011 is tryna argue here. I guess technical semantics here?

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Duncanwii
07/27/21 10:50:16 PM
#119:


DeathDeathSong posted...
seeing duncan and veedee get fucking wrecked this topic is so great, ya love to see it

Youd think I'd care more but I honestly dont.
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Solar_Crimson
07/27/21 10:50:30 PM
#120:


scorpion41 posted...
Thats still more than some degreed professionals. Thats definitely more than a lot of trade work. Minimum wage should be $9-10/hr MAX. You want more money? Go learn a trade.
Minimum wage should be enough for anyone to live off of; that's what it was made for.

Unless you believe that people who make the current MW should starve to death in the streets because our cost of living is out of control.

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Veggeta_MAX
07/27/21 10:50:44 PM
#121:


Eramir posted...
Second. You act like 67k a year is a lot of money... it's not that's barely enough for a living.
LMAO I'd love to be enlightened by this.

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IfGodCouldDie
07/27/21 10:54:08 PM
#122:


Duncanwii posted...
No self respecting business is going to pay $33 an hour. You're lucky you're getting $15 because they're desperate.
I make 33 an hour.

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Veggeta_MAX
07/27/21 10:55:50 PM
#123:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
I make 33 an hour.
minimum wage?

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PC-Builder_Pony
07/27/21 10:56:06 PM
#124:


Hello inflation : (

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Doom_Art
07/27/21 11:02:46 PM
#126:


Duncanwii posted...
I fail to see how thats relevant.
alright well that's a no

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IfGodCouldDie
07/27/21 11:04:25 PM
#127:


Vicious_Dios posted...
To each to their own ability. ('-' )

Either downsize more, stay with your momma and papa for another 30 years, reduce frivolous spending.

Your negative consequences from your own life choices are not my problem.
Its not ever going to be your problem because you are just as much of a fucking cog as everyone else.

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MajesticFerret
07/27/21 11:05:32 PM
#128:


Payzmaykr posted...
Or heres an idea: force landlords and rental companies to rent homes for fair prices ($300 for an apartment and $600 for a house),

Bruh, maybe you should actually be a home owner before throwing around arbitrary asenine numbers like this.

What kinda houses are people renting out, fucking shacks? $600/month doesn't even cover a lot of homes property taxes, let alone maintenance, HOA fees, and paying towards the cost of the actual house/land.

Same thing with those joke tier apt complex costs. You know what the most expensive thing when building houses or apt complexes? Labor...the same thing you want to go up drastically.

You would be hard pressed to find an apt in places like Thailand for $300 and the price of labor over there is joke compared to most western countries even now. You want them to start building apts out of cardboard and offload the repair costs to you? Because that's about all that is sustainable at renting at $300/month, especially in a country where some of these people want bare minimum labor to be $33/hr.

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IfGodCouldDie
07/27/21 11:07:59 PM
#129:


Duncanwii posted...
At least I'm not simping for communism.
That doesn't answer their question.

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Duncanwii
07/27/21 11:08:19 PM
#130:


Doom_Art posted...

alright well that's a no

Yeah? And?
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deoxxys
07/27/21 11:13:41 PM
#131:


Lmao yall out here arguing for more the $15 dollars an hours but yet here in NC the min wage is still 7.25, let alone $10 bucks an hour

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Umbreon
07/27/21 11:13:41 PM
#132:


Duncanwii posted...
I fail to see how thats relevant. I can understand basic economics even without one.

Interpreting indirect answer as "I never had a job and live off my parents".

Which is fine, sometimes that's necessary. It does, however, disqualify you from this discussion since someone who never had to work a job certainly wouldn't know what it's like to survive on their own.

You're telling people who have that they don't deserve to make a living wage.

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IfGodCouldDie
07/27/21 11:16:34 PM
#133:


Duncanwii posted...
No, they're not realistic because they're not realistic. You may as well ask raw meat to not give you food poisoning.
You should probably do some real research into what these companies make and the amount of employees they have before you make these kinds of claims.

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harley2280
07/27/21 11:18:56 PM
#134:


Duncanwii posted...
Payzmaykr posted...
We need $33/hr to match inflation. Theyre less than halfway to where we need to be.

No self respecting business is going to pay $33 an hour. You're lucky you're getting $15 because they're desperate.

Aetna does
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deoxxys
07/27/21 11:22:20 PM
#135:


--Zero- posted...
Now to start attacking the real problem being housing costs.
Omg now THIS is the issue.

To put it in perspective...I was looking at the sales history of a house currently costing 115k which is on the low end of cheap housing right now 800-1200sqft. Like you better like living in a ghetto or urban area. You know how much that house cost in 2016?? 50K!!! The housing market is ridiculous.

What the government needs to do is put restrictions on investors/etc just trying to make profits off of every single property! People need places to live!

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Duncanwii
07/27/21 11:22:52 PM
#136:


Umbreon posted...
You're telling people who have that they don't deserve to make a living wage.

I think that if my parents can make such a good life for themselves on a teacher's salary then everyone should be able to as well.
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QueenCarly
07/27/21 11:24:35 PM
#137:


Duncanwii posted...
I think that if my parents can make such a good life for themselves on a teacher's salary then everyone should be able to as well.

Average teachers salary is $60k my dude

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Derwood
07/27/21 11:24:56 PM
#138:


Duncanwii posted...
I think that if my parents can make such a good life for themselves on a teacher's salary then everyone should be able to as well.

Adjust it for inflation....
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hockeybub89
07/27/21 11:27:13 PM
#139:


I welcome everyone to spend a week in the hellhole of a pharmacy I have called a job and tell me how we should all be lucky businesses choose to pay us at all.

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Solar_Crimson
07/27/21 11:34:21 PM
#140:


Duncanwii posted...
I think that if my parents can make such a good life for themselves on a teacher's salary then everyone should be able to as well.
Times change, and your parents' experience is not going to be the same for people who live in different parts of the country, or even within your area.

And not every teacher even makes the $60k that was mentioned. Some make far less than that.

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Umbreon
07/27/21 11:34:42 PM
#141:


Duncanwii posted...
I think that if my parents can make such a good life for themselves on a teacher's salary then everyone should be able to as well.


Your parents did it back when prices weren't insane.

You clearly don't know what it takes to survive on your own in the current era.

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Umbreon
07/27/21 11:39:43 PM
#142:


But in the end, Duncan is squarely on the "Fuck you, I got mine!" train.

Because again, he wouldn't be saying that stuff if he was employed at any point in his life.

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Cemith
07/27/21 11:41:07 PM
#143:


Duncanwii posted...
I think that if my parents can make such a good life for themselves on a teacher's salary then everyone should be able to as well.

I think that my parents that bought a house in 1990 can afford a house that was sold in 1990.

C'mon homie you're embarrassing yourself.

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Duncanwii
07/27/21 11:42:39 PM
#144:


Umbreon posted...
But in the end, Duncan is squarely on the "Fuck you, I got mine!" train.

Because again, he wouldn't be saying that stuff if he was employed at any point in his life.

I was employed 3 separate times in the summer between 2012-2016. I took what they gave me and didnt complain.
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TeaMilk
07/27/21 11:45:04 PM
#145:


Duncanwii posted...
I was employed 3 separate times in the summer between 2012-2016. I took what they gave me and didnt complain.
you dont fucking have living expenses lmao you were getting pocket money

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Umbreon
07/27/21 11:45:43 PM
#146:


Duncanwii posted...
I was employed 3 separate times in the summer between 2012-2016. I took what they gave me and didnt complain.

So a temp/summer job?

How many hours would you need to pay a month of rent in a shitty apartment?

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marthsheretoo
07/27/21 11:46:09 PM
#147:


Duncan, if you're so anti-communism, why are you living a lifestyle that amounts to being taken care of by a more powerful authority figure, accepting their handouts without working to better yourself and contribute? Why do you not try to sink or swim in the tides of the free market, earning your own way and making an honest living?

Bc it seems to me like you are reaping the benefits of a smaller system in which you are provided for without question while denigrating anyone who wishes they were treated better by an exploitative system you have never had to interact with.

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Duncanwii
07/27/21 11:55:41 PM
#148:


marthsheretoo posted...
Duncan, if you're so anti-communism, why are you living a lifestyle that amounts to being taken care of by a more powerful authority figure, accepting their handouts without working to better yourself and contribute? Why do you not try to sink or swim in the tides of the free market, earning your own way and making an honest living?

Bc it seems to me like you are reaping the benefits of a smaller system in which you are provided for without question while denigrating anyone who wishes they were treated better by an exploitative system you have never had to interact with.

The organization who got me those summer jobs has the ultimate goal of getting me prepared for independant living. This involves helping me find employment and preform daily tasks aimed at living by myself/maybe with my Gf. So yes eventually I will be employed. And I will gratefully take what they give me and be happy I got hired in the first place in such a competitive work market.
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marthsheretoo
07/27/21 11:59:09 PM
#149:


Perhaps you should hold off on discussing these issues until you've had the chance to put your money where your mouth is, then? I know you think you will be grateful for what you get, but it's hard to imagine what it will actually be like, and frankly, you do not know. You just don't. That's not an insult or a slight.

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_Angel_
07/28/21 12:00:48 AM
#150:


67k is pretty decent money. Even SoCal can live decent off that.

Think it's worse in NY though.

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PoundGarden
07/28/21 12:02:12 AM
#151:


Duncanwii posted...
The organization who got me those summer jobs has the ultimate goal of getting me prepared for independant living. This involves helping me find employment and preform daily tasks aimed at living by myself/maybe with my Gf. So yes eventually I will be employed. And I will gratefully take what they give me and be happy I got hired in the first place in such a competitive work market.

God dammit.

I literally do this for a living, so if what he's saying is true it's probably time to stop ripping on Duncan. Idk how to say it in a ToS friendly way other than you typically need to qualify for those kinds of programs which are typically ran/funded through the state.

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