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EnterTheTekken
07/21/21 5:41:58 PM
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For background if you are not familiar, Ari Shaffir has a history of humor at the most inopportune times. He is probably more known online as the guy who did the "Amazing Racist" routines. He made some comments about the Kobe Bryant passing which I will let you seek out via your search engine of choice.

This is an excerpt from his set in the Comedy Cellar. The title says it all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7E7T-yJUC4

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cjsdowg
07/21/21 5:46:05 PM
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Just not funny.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
07/21/21 5:51:18 PM
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I chuckled a bit.

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g0ldie
07/21/21 5:53:26 PM
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there are people who argue there is no too far as far as comedy goes, and it's not something that I've thought enough about to form any meaningful opinion about, but in regards to the bit, personally I think:

cjsdowg posted...
Just not funny.

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VipaGTS
07/21/21 5:54:43 PM
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I mean, sure he can do the act but its not funny and just comes off as try hard. Its like hes still trapped on 4chan circa 2006. This edgy shit just isnt funny to me.

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Delirious_Beard
07/21/21 5:55:48 PM
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this guy is the very definition of unfunny

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Winrawr
07/21/21 5:57:45 PM
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I found it funny. I also find it amusing how badly people need to say someone isnt funny. You ever notice how people are really aggressive about that?

THIS PERSON ISNT FUNNY
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g0ldie
07/21/21 5:59:32 PM
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yea, funny how people comment on someone's humor when it comes to what they do professionally...

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Winrawr
07/21/21 6:01:52 PM
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g0ldie posted...
yea, funny how people comment on someone's humor when it comes to what they do professionally...
no, more that humor is just very subjective. Just like art, music, etc.

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Lost_All_Senses
07/21/21 6:03:49 PM
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Ari Shaffir has a hard time understanding he's not funny or likable enough to pull off offensive jokes.

Also, once you drug your friend in front of their kid, you deserve to fuck off forever. This dude is a 50 year old teenager that never grew out of his immature rebellious phase. And his humor reflects that. He's only funny if you also miss your teenage rebellious stage. I think it's also why all his friends kind of stepped out the way and let him fall. They were looking for a reason to get away from him and he provided it. Someone like Bert was just too much of a nice guy to stomp him while he was falling, even though he had every right to for what he did to him. i think Bert took it like a champ while at the same time knowing he was a danger to his overall well being and needed to distance himself. Bert is struggling trying to turn his life around and Ari is the "friend" that just hands you the gun to make it more fun to watch when you're self destructing.

Through the controversy, what was revealed is that pretty much no one around him respected him. And he deserves that wake up. Fuck him.

Good comedy is built around a persona. And Ari's persona fuckin SUCKS

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g0ldie
07/21/21 6:03:56 PM
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yea, and if TC made a topic where the person in question made a song, for example, someone could say the song was ass (assuming it's how they felt)

edit: at post 9

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Hayame Zero
07/21/21 6:06:49 PM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
For background if you are not familiar, Ari Shaffir

Yeah, probably.

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Dakimakura
07/21/21 6:06:53 PM
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End got kind of funny starting at the part with the 1 guy who faked his death from it. He seemed to lean pretty hard on the antisemitism unnecessarily. Like implying that the only way anyone could have empathy for the people who died from that is because they are Jewish. Cut all that out and there is certainly something there.

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viewmaster_pi
07/21/21 6:08:28 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
End got kind of funny starting at the part with the 1 guy who faked his death from it.
yeah, floridian wally johnson getting a new lease on life got a sensible smirk out of me

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Stewman_Magoo
07/21/21 6:19:24 PM
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The last bit was pretty good. Ari is a garbage tier person though.

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Lorenzo_2003
07/21/21 6:38:43 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
This dude is a 50 year old teenager that never grew out of his immature rebellious phase. And his humor reflects that.

To be fair, are there any really young comedians who are willing to say whatever they want, regardless of the woke backlash?

Remember Carlin? Hes a comedy legend now but his original standup was nowhere near as fearless as what it developed into and what we praise about him today. All the guys doing consistent take no prisoners style comedy are 35+ and I really dont think it has anything to do with immaturity.

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realnifty1
07/21/21 6:50:44 PM
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Not offensive at all, but not particularly funny either. Some decent ideas in there, but needs more work.
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unclekoolaid73
07/21/21 7:04:05 PM
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Not my cup of tea.
Most of these guys are trying out jokes at these small comedy clubs to see what "sticks". Lots of comics do this. Not familiar with the comic in the vid.

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voldothegr8
07/21/21 7:07:34 PM
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Not gonna lie I LOL'd a few times
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VipaGTS
07/21/21 7:42:48 PM
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Winrawr posted...
I found it funny. I also find it amusing how badly people need to say someone isnt funny. You ever notice how people are really aggressive about that?

THIS PERSON ISNT FUNNY
The topic literally asked us if it was funny. No need to get upset lol

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Lorenzo_2003
07/21/21 8:48:07 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
The topic literally asked us if it was funny. No need to get upset lol

Thats not really accurate.

TC asked if this comedian went too far with his routine, implying it mightve been too offensive for viewers. Thats not fully dependent on whether its funny or not, although being funny seems to be the trade off most people will allow for crass or rude humor. This is somewhat similar to how the fine line that exists between what is considered sexual harassment vs an acceptable romantic gesture is basically whether the target likes it or not. This also explains how you see such a wide range of opinions on comedy, where some did laugh at Ari Shaffirs jokes and others did not think it was funny at all.

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Background_Guy
07/21/21 8:52:58 PM
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Really using the word comedian loosely here
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TheGoldenEel
07/21/21 8:53:33 PM
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Ari Shaffir fucking sucks. I dont know how this dude ever had a career

i guess theres a market for unfunny abrasive assholes out there

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Background_Guy
07/21/21 8:56:04 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Ari Shaffir fucking sucks. I dont know how this dude ever had a career

i guess theres a market for unfunny abrasive assholes out there
Isn't he just one of those failed standups that transitioned to podcasting? Not exactly a glamorous life
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Smackems
07/21/21 8:56:53 PM
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I smiled and chuckled a little. It's ok but not great

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Lost_All_Senses
07/21/21 9:43:37 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
To be fair, are there any really young comedians who are willing to say whatever they want, regardless of the woke backlash?

Remember Carlin? Hes a comedy legend now but his original standup was nowhere near as fearless as what it developed into and what we praise about him today. All the guys doing consistent take no prisoners style comedy are 35+ and I really dont think it has anything to do with immaturity.

Did Carlin have no social depth, make fun of dead people immediately after they died for cheap laughs and drug his friends?

And lol @ making this about "woke backlash". Such a shallow way to view this. I already made a much deeper argument than caring just about "being too woke" or whatever dumb shit you guys like to throw around when someone you like just isn't funny to everyone.

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Lorenzo_2003
07/21/21 10:56:20 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Did Carlin have no social depth, make fun of dead people immediately after they died for cheap laughs and drug his friends?

And lol @ making this about "woke backlash". Such a shallow way to view this. I already made a much deeper argument than caring just about "being too woke" or whatever dumb shit you guys like to throw around when someone you like just isn't funny to everyone.

I think you missed my point about Carlin, by like a mile.

No, I have never heard of him doing anything similar to one of his friends, although Im not sure what that has to do with his standup routines. However, most of his humor in his later years was very dark and he basically admitted in interviews that he looked forward to people being wiped off the planet as a species. I dont know anyone who particularly likes Ari Shaffir, but like Carlin or any other offensive comic, Im not sure why that would matter to whether or not his jokes went too far.

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What_
07/21/21 11:01:35 PM
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P funny actually

p tame for Ari
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Lost_All_Senses
07/21/21 11:19:03 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
I think you missed my point about Carlin, by like a mile.

No, I have never heard of him doing anything similar to one of his friends, although Im not sure what that has to do with his standup routines. However, most of his humor in his later years was very dark and he basically admitted in interviews that he looked forward to people being wiped off the planet as a species. I dont know anyone who particularly likes Ari Shaffir, but like Carlin or any other offensive comic, Im not sure why that would matter to whether or not his jokes went too far.

Because people who show they are good intentioned outside of their jokes make it easier to laugh with them when they make harsh observations and jokes. When you do shit like I mentioned before, it's a little harder to share in on a laugh. Not impossible to share a laugh, but why wouldn't you want to go with the guy you know isn't taking pleasure in mocking people who just died on public platforms and drugging their friend?

Plus, that's just adding to him just always going for low hanging fruit. He built shows around going for low hanging fruit. He probably does have a good clever joke here and there, but he'll always go for that low hanging fruit that others moved on from after the 90s and aren't hacky enough to try to get away with. There's way better options out there and you can laugh with them knowing they're not complete douchebags. He's not a strong enough comedy to make up for being a piece of shit. That's why no large group cried or made a ruckus when everybody dropped him. He just kind of left everyone's minds immediately. Tho, obviously not mine lol. But that's not cause he's good. So, doesn't count.

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Tsukasa1891
07/21/21 11:21:41 PM
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Where's the joke? All he did was tell everyone what happened.

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TheGoldenEel
07/21/21 11:39:11 PM
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Just want to say that I agree with everything @Lost_All_Senses has said ITT

not a lot of people on CE who seem to have a deeper understanding of comedy so its refreshing to read posts like that

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Halo478
07/21/21 11:46:22 PM
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DepreceV2
07/21/21 11:50:20 PM
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I watched this and I didnt even smile. I wasnt offended or anything. It just wasnt funny at all. I was waiting for it to be funny and it never was

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hockeybub89
07/21/21 11:53:40 PM
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It can't be unfunny if it's comedy.

This is why I also enjoy every piece of music ever written.

I lost my personal taste in a tragic accident.

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pauIie
07/22/21 12:03:31 AM
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is it even a comedy routine? i couldn't tell.

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Smashingpmkns
07/22/21 12:07:29 AM
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Ari's brand of comedy died like 15 years ago and it wasnt great back then either.
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sutree
07/22/21 12:08:01 AM
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It was funny

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KeeperOfShadows
07/22/21 12:12:54 AM
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Eh, I chuckled a few times. His delivery needs work.

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Lorenzo_2003
07/22/21 12:22:59 AM
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KeeperOfShadows posted...
Eh, I chuckled a few times. His delivery needs work.

I agree with you on everything except the punchline. That last line But also, he lived, with the slight dramatic pause, worked.

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FuriousFox
07/22/21 12:43:49 AM
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Eh, I'm fine with offensive comedy, but that bit just lacked any creativity. The only thing it had going for it was the shock, and compared to other things I've seen on the internet it wasn't even that shocking.

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