Current Events > There is no scientific evidence that "Learning Styles" exist.

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https://youtu.be/rhgwIhB58PA

Multi-modal approaches (Combing text/words and with images or physical experience) are nearly universally better than catering to the non-scientific "learning style" approach.

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I'm willing to bet that "learning styles" as a concept was invented to find more creative ways to tell dumb kids that they aren't dumb.

"Oh, you're failing all your classes? But you do so well in gym, you must be a physical learner."

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Doesnt big pharm have a pill for that

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Funny story, I was looking for a quick lesson to teach my students last year and I thought about teaching learning styles, since we all learned about it as kids. After teaching the first lesson, I came across a video explaining what youre saying, TC. That theres actually no solid evidence that its even a thing.

I still taught the next two lessons because it was too late to tell them oh btw forget everything we just learned last week because its garbage. Im not teaching it anymore though.

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Its still good to present the material in a variety of formats simply for varietys sake. Kids today cant sit and listen to a 50-90 minute verbal lecture taking notes. The ones that can are usually the ones going to college. The rest are simply trying to graduate so they can move on.

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Bumpie

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i have no doubt that i learn better with a hands on-approach than reading a book or listening to someone talk and no one can convince me otherwise.

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I mean, duh.

Pogo_Marimo posted...

Multi-modal approaches (Combing text/words and with images or physical experience) are nearly universally better than catering to the non-scientific "learning style" approach.

double-duh.

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Had to take a learning styles test when i was seeing the counselor at school. My results were that i had no particular learning style lol (as in visual,audio, and reading were all about equal)

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TwoDoorPC posted...

i have no doubt that i learn better with a hands on-approach than reading a book or listening to someone talk and no one can convince me otherwise.

To the extent to which everyone does, sure.

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Makes sense to me

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As a HS math teacher, I read about this in college. In fact, mathematics benefits the most when presenting an idea through multiple representations instead of restricting to just one.

Showing a graph, the relevant table and equation, a verbal description of the model, and some kind of diagram or animation simultaneously (with proper connections) really helps to understand and learn.

I think Veritasium puts it best when he said learning to play music can't just be done by reading a book. You have to actually play the instrument.

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Im a teacher, and I still believe learning styles exist, but it isnt black and white.

I think it is just how some people absorb information better. Some people do better by listening, some people can sit and read a textbook for hours, and some people learn through immersion. And some dont.

Bottom line though. Teachers have to make lessons that are clear, concise, and not only give information, but allow students to apply it too. Especially the application part. And that is where a lot of students get hung up, because they never get to apply anything.


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I wouldnt say they dont exist, they just werent relevant to us in our time

but now?

We have the internet and all these social distractions, all this media formatted with new meta humor, even the way we present things to others is changing through the availability of words

things are becoming more and more broken down to the psychological level that focusing on the strengths of students and bringing out the best of their specific talents could be the future

they definitely exist, mostly because someone can recognize in their own mind what works for them and that wouldnt need to really be rooted in scientific reality to have it be effective

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Boy I love when people outside education with no training in pedagogy or theory try to discuss the subject

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Shezarr posted...

Boy I love when people outside education with no training in pedagogy or theory try to discuss the subject

I seriously doubt you know about life as much as you think you do >_>

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I can definitely say even from my job that interpret data and information when looking at a visual representation. This isnt to say I cant read and interpret something, it just takes me longer.

Additionally visual representation holds my attention more easy, and I tend to space out while reading.
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Vermander posted...

I can definitely say even from my job that interpret data and information when looking at a visual representation. This isnt to say I cant read and interpret something, it just takes me longer.

Additionally visual representation holds my attention more easy, and I tend to space out while reading.

GameFAQS wonders why kids get crap education and its mostly because old teachers just rolled with scientific findings like this instead of just asking the kids what they think works best

People like this guy:
Shezarr posted...

Boy I love when people outside education with no training in pedagogy or theory try to discuss the subject

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Been about 6 years since I was in teacher school, but the theory we were taught was multiple intelligences not learning styles. Basically
Multi-modal approaches (Combing text/words and with images or physical experience) as tc says. I don't think any teacher worth while would try to teach kids in only one way.

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When people tell me how to do something, I usually just stare blankly at them until they stand the fuck aside so I can actually learn how to do it.

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RedJackson posted...

I seriously doubt you know about life as much as you think you do >_>

RedJackson posted...

People like this guy:

Unlike you, I work in education, teach college, and am currently finishing my MA (which is heavily rooted in pedagogy). Try again!

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What a horrible take.

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Shezarr posted...

Unlike you, I work in education, teach college, and am currently finishing my MA (which is heavily rooted in pedagogy). Try again!

Buddy, thats my major and youre working with college kids

Try again!


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RedJackson posted...

Buddy, thats my major and youre working with college kids

Try again!

I work with students of all ages; I teach college. I don't give a fuck what your BA major is lmao.

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Shezarr posted...

I work with students of all ages; I teach college. I don't give a fuck what your BA major is lmao.

Shut the fuck up, youre the teacher in Goodwill Hunting that sucks and you know that

jk, youre alright sometimes

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Lol ok kid.

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That kind of felt like clickbait. The widespread efficacies of multi-modal learning and retention strategies don't really debunk the notion that learning styles exist. Some students have significant discrepancies between their various processing abilities, and that absolutely affects them in school. While certain methods of teaching are likely to work better across the board for specific subjects (e.g. using maps in geography), I expect students would still experience different outcomes with those methods, depending on their learning styles.

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IronChef_Kirby posted...

That kind of felt like clickbait. The widespread efficacies of multi-modal learning and retention strategies don't really debunk the notion that learning styles exist. Some students have significant discrepancies between their various processing abilities, and that absolutely affects them in school. While certain methods of teaching are likely to work better across the board for specific subjects (e.g. using maps in geography), I expect students would still experience different outcomes with those methods, depending on their learning styles.

People have literally studied this and found no consistent individual differences.

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TwoDoorPC posted...

i have no doubt that i learn better with a hands on-approach than reading a book or listening to someone talk and no one can convince me otherwise.

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COVxy posted...

To the extent to which everyone does, sure.

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s0nicfan posted...

I'm willing to bet that "learning styles" as a concept was invented to find more creative ways to tell dumb kids that they aren't dumb.

"Oh, you're failing all your classes? But you do so well in gym, you must be a physical learner."

this lol

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Well if a YouTube video said it, it must be true

Well if you're a deaf person I'm pretty sure you'd rather have the textbook than a lecture

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IronChef_Kirby posted...

That kind of felt like clickbait. The widespread efficacies of multi-modal learning and retention strategies don't really debunk the notion that learning styles exist. Some students have significant discrepancies between their various processing abilities, and that absolutely affects them in school. While certain methods of teaching are likely to work better across the board for specific subjects (e.g. using maps in geography), I expect students would still experience different outcomes with those methods, depending on their learning styles.

Video from one of the most respected science explainers on YT:

"Learning Styles was a hypothesis from some random teacher that was spread without ever being tested. When it was rigourously tested, there was no evidence it was correct."

This guy:

"I fail to see how this debunks learning styles"

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Derwood posted...

Well if a YouTube video said it, it must be true

As opposed to what, the teacher who told you about it in fifth grade?

If you doubt the veracity of his claims, he nicely cited all of his sources in the description.

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TC please tell me at least that Rush Style, Beast Style, and Breaker Style exist.

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COVxy posted...

People have literally studied this and found no consistent individual differences.

Well maybe it's like spanking and they haven't studied it in a very specific way that confirms my biases.

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CyricZ posted...

TC please tell me at least that Rush Style, Beast Style, and Breaker Style exist.

Not after 2005

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hockeybub89 posted...

Not after 2005

I'd object to this but I forget how far you are in the series and don't wanna spoil nothin'.

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CyricZ posted...

I'd object to this but I forget how far you are in the series and don't wanna spoil nothin'.

I've beaten them all. Think of the timeline. Kiryu doesn't use styles after Kiwami.

Man, now the joke is ruined!

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hockeybub89 posted...

I've beaten them all. Think of the timeline. Kiryu doesn't use styles after Kiwami.

He uses them in Like a Dragon.

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Derwood posted...

Well if a YouTube video said it, it must be true

He has tons of sources in the description. Many dispute their existence with data.

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This myth is because around 25% of adults in America have some form of dyslexia, most of it is undiagnosed because they have learned to compensate to some degree. These people are mostly likely to say they are just a "visual learner" or an "auditory learner."

They might say they are "street smart" and not "book smart," meaning they have difficulty reading.

They might say that audio books are easier to learn from or remember (whereas a strong reader is likely annoyed by the slow pace of an audiobook).

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