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wolfy42
07/12/21 8:35:15 PM
#51:


Zeus posted...
...the pignose one is what Spectacular got replaced with. Go watch Spectacular.


How? I can't find it anywhere and I have disney/hulu/amazon/netflix etc.

It's like nowhere.

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Krazy_Kirby
07/12/21 8:53:01 PM
#52:


googled the picture, it is the one with the pig nostrils.

are you thinking of the unofficial sequel to the 90s one where he is on another planet? with the web armpit glider?
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Metalsonic66
07/12/21 9:07:52 PM
#53:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
the one with pig nostrils and square fingertips? hell no.

90s spider-man is clearly the best one
lol what is this

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Zeus
07/13/21 4:33:39 AM
#54:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
googled the picture, it is the one with the pig nostrils.

If you're trying to troll, you're doing a shit job of it. I explained two or three times now that the pig nose one is Ultimate, unless you're doing some side-joke at which point it'd be weird because Ultimate Spidey literally incorporates versions of this throughout the show:

https://i.imgur.com/OYZ59nc.gif

wolfy42 posted... How? I can't find it anywhere and I have disney/hulu/amazon/netflix etc.

It's like nowhere.

I have the digital version purchased on some platform I never use, part of a promo I got from buying a Funko Pop! Molten Man from Wal-Mart. Beyond that, I think I have the season 1 DVD.

I *think* I might have watched the show on NF originally, but it hasn't been hosted there for years.

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ParanoidObsessive
07/13/21 9:46:06 AM
#55:


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because Ultimate Spidey literally incorporates versions of this throughout the show

I'd assume he's not literally referring to pig nostrils (aka Spider-Ham), as much as he's complaining about the animation style of Spectacular and how it depicts noses in general.
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Krazy_Kirby
07/13/21 11:47:00 AM
#56:



kind of hard to tell from this angle, but this is the one I am talking about. big circle nostrils.

and there is no way in hell some dumb high school version beats https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZGN9fZvQhc

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KodyKeir
07/13/21 12:18:07 PM
#57:


Who is the sassy child in the spiderman outfit and why are they indicating they have a small penis?

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Metalsonic66
07/13/21 2:02:41 PM
#58:


lol

Spectacular Spider-Man actually had a much more mature story than the 90s version which had terrible voice acting, tons of recycled animation, and stupid network restrictions (like Spider-Man wasn't allowed to throw a punch, Morbius couldn't drink blood, all guns had to be lasers, Green Goblin threw MJ into another dimension, etc)

If you don't like the art style, that's cool. But cartoony doesn't equal bad. Sean Galloway did the designs for that show, and he is one of my favorite artists of all time

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Metalsonic66
07/13/21 2:03:51 PM
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ParanoidObsessive
07/13/21 2:23:50 PM
#60:


Metalsonic66 posted...
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Ugh, Tumblr nose.
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Metalsonic66
07/13/21 2:38:11 PM
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MeteoricBurst
07/13/21 3:26:39 PM
#62:


I just watched this last night. I enjoyed it but I'm biased because I much prefer the more grounded action (relatively) compared to the full superhero showy powers and special effects bonanza. The Captain America movies are still my favourite. The effects that were there were hilariously bad at times though. Somehow that worked because the overall vibe was very campy. This whole thing was like an old school campy Bond flick before he got all serious with Craig. The one downside was the villains were horrible. One was barely a character (Taskmaster) though it was explained why. You could not have had them there at all and nothing would change. Which makes me think they'll be back so they can be developed. But the main villain was even lamer and not funny either, unlike the rest of the film.

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helIy
07/13/21 4:14:51 PM
#63:


why should the villain be funny

aside from loki, what mcu villain was funny


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MeteoricBurst
07/13/21 4:59:38 PM
#64:


helIy posted...
why should the villain be funny

aside from loki, what mcu villain was funny

Because the whole tone of the movie was funny and it was jarring the villain lacked humour. Even her fake family were funny as shit despite being awful people. Maybe that's what they were going for because at the end Widow herself was making fun of him and he only got more violent. He had no sense of humour. Which fell flat in my view.

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Blightzkrieg
07/13/21 5:17:03 PM
#65:


helIy posted...
why should the villain be funny

aside from loki, what mcu villain was funny
Ultron!

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helIy
07/13/21 5:49:04 PM
#66:


MeteoricBurst posted...
Because the whole tone of the movie was funny and it was jarring the villain lacked humour. Even her fake family were funny as shit despite being awful people. Maybe that's what they were going for because at the end Widow herself was making fun of him and he only got more violent. He had no sense of humour. Which fell flat in my view.

Edit: I forgot to say Hera from Thor Ragnorok was pretty funny. Cate Blanchett hammed it up because that was a funny movie. That's how you match the villains to the tone. That said, it can be very funny having a serious character inside something campy but they didn't do it good in this movie.
there is nothing funny at all about a dude brainwashing and torturing kidnapped little girls

you're talking about tone, but look at the tone of the situation. the man was pure scum, he does not get to be funny

hera wasn't scum, she wasn't even inherently bad. she also wasn't funny, but that's aside from the point

also you could only come up with one character out of over 20 movies

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EvilMegas
07/13/21 5:56:33 PM
#67:


Mandarin
Whiplash from 2(he didn't mean to be, but he was)
All of Thor ragnor

I'm missing one

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MeteoricBurst
07/13/21 5:59:48 PM
#68:


helIy posted...
there is nothing funny at all about a dude brainwashing and torturing kidnapped little girls

you're talking about tone, but look at the tone of the situation. the man was pure scum, he does not get to be funny

hera wasn't scum, she wasn't even inherently bad. she also wasn't funny, but that's aside from the point

also you could only come up with one character out of over 20 movies

You said aside from Loki there wasn't any and I gave you one. Stop changing the subject. And this villains "occupation" is irrelevant. Her fake family were just as bad as him and they were funny. But then again you said the movie was boring in your OP so I'm not sure why you're arguing this with me when you didn't think it was funny period.


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Metalsonic66
07/13/21 6:03:14 PM
#69:


helIy posted...
aside from loki, what mcu villain was funny
Ultron, unfortunately
Ego also
And Surtur and the Grandmaster

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ParanoidObsessive
07/13/21 6:49:56 PM
#70:


helIy posted...
why should the villain be funny

The villain should be interesting. Failing that, funny's an acceptable fallback.

But if a villain isn't interesting, funny, or overly important, people will generally start shitting on them.
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helIy
07/13/21 10:06:35 PM
#71:


Metalsonic66 posted...
Ultron, unfortunately
Ego also
And Surtur and the Grandmaster
neither of those are funny

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helIy
07/13/21 10:09:09 PM
#72:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
The villain should be interesting. Failing that, funny's an acceptable fallback.

But if a villain isn't interesting, funny, or overly important, people will generally start shitting on them.
im not saying he was a good villain

well, in this movie anyways, but he isn't a villain that needed to be funny given the context of what he's doing. you don't need to make him endearing because that lessens the impact of what he did.

with Loki, his entire character is to be a joker.

with dryker? nah man.


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Metalsonic66
07/13/21 10:24:02 PM
#73:


helIy posted...
neither of those are funny
Yeah-huh

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Revelation34
07/13/21 10:26:19 PM
#74:


Metalsonic66 posted...



Who's the last guy in the first pic and the girl in the last one?

helIy posted...

neither of those are funny


LMAO. Grandmaster was hilarious.
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helIy
07/13/21 10:26:51 PM
#75:


Ultron isn't funny, he's deadpan sarcastic

ego is just a dude

surtur isn't funny at all, and the grandmaster is just annoyingly stupid

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Metalsonic66
07/13/21 10:28:52 PM
#76:


Revelation34 posted...
Who's the last guy in the first pic and the girl in the last one?
Octavius and Gwen

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Metalsonic66
07/13/21 10:29:18 PM
#77:


helIy posted...
Ultron isn't funny, he's deadpan sarcastic

ego is just a dude

surtur isn't funny at all, and the grandmaster is just annoyingly stupid
Helly gonna hel

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Revelation34
07/13/21 10:46:52 PM
#78:


Metalsonic66 posted...

Octavius and Gwen


Wtf did they do to him?
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Metalsonic66
07/13/21 10:59:56 PM
#79:


He looks normal to me

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Krazy_Kirby
07/13/21 11:12:37 PM
#80:


she would be hotter if she were a redhead instead of a blonde
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Revelation34
07/14/21 12:52:20 AM
#81:


Metalsonic66 posted...
He looks normal to me


I don't remember him having a 50s style superhero mask.
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Metalsonic66
07/14/21 2:43:43 AM
#82:


Revelation34 posted...
I don't remember him having a 50s style superhero mask.
Do you mean goggles

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ParanoidObsessive
07/14/21 8:07:55 AM
#83:


helIy posted...
Ultron isn't funny, he's deadpan sarcastic

ego is just a dude

surtur isn't funny at all, and the grandmaster is just annoyingly stupid

To be fair, Loki isn't really all that comedic either. He's supposed to be a somewhat tragic figure who copes via humor, slowly morphing into a harder, darker threat. He's pretty dark in Thor 2, he has more serious or intimidating moments in Avengers than he does comedic ones (even if stuff like "Puny God!" is all people meme about), and really only starts to shade into comedy outweighing everything else in Ragnarok, but that's because Ragnarok is played much more like a comedy than almost anything else. Pretty much everyone is snarky and a lot of the action is played for laughs (at least until the end).

He's really only full-on comedic in the new series (where he's the butt-monkey protagonist and not the villain). And even that's got some pretty tragic moments.



helIy posted...
with Loki, his entire character is to be a joker.

It's really not. If that's all you get out of Loki, you either profoundly misunderstood the character, or you really just aren't paying attention.

Or you're helly.
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helIy
07/14/21 8:39:55 AM
#84:


or you watch Loki where he explicitly says that himself

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Veedrock-
07/14/21 9:34:19 AM
#85:


Mandarin was a funny villain.

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Revelation34
07/14/21 9:50:36 AM
#86:


Metalsonic66 posted...

Do you mean goggles


Looks like a mask.
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Metalsonic66
07/14/21 4:55:47 PM
#87:


Try looking closer

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ParanoidObsessive
07/14/21 4:57:37 PM
#88:


helIy posted...
or you watch Loki where he explicitly says that himself

And if you watch Loki, you'll also see the part where they explicitly point out that he lies.

Loki's perspective of himself in that show doesn't necessarily accurately reflect the way he's been presented in other movies.
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helIy
07/14/21 5:49:05 PM
#89:


he doesn't actually lie at all in the show, so he's lying about lying

it's also a different Loki than the one in the movies

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ParanoidObsessive
07/14/21 8:40:32 PM
#90:


helIy posted...
he doesn't actually lie at all in the show, so he's lying about lying

But he's not the only one in the show that says that about himself. And the show version of him isn't actually the one we're talking about anyway.

You said Loki was a funny villain. He's not a villain in the show.

And he's not overly comedic in most of the movies where he actually IS the villain (or "antagonist" - except for The Avengers, there's an argument to be made that he's more victim than villain, and by Ragnarok he's more supporting cast than opposition).

He's snarky (especially in The Avengers), but literally everyone in the MCU is snarky (especially in The Avengers).



helIy posted...
it's also a different Loki than the one in the movies

To be fair, it's the same one that's in Endgame, and he's identical to the main timeline version of himself up to the point where the timelines diverged in The Avengers, so the one in the show is technically more villainous and less comedic than the one in the main timeline. At least prior to the show itself.
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ForteEXE3850
07/14/21 10:57:49 PM
#91:


So, how common is the knowledge that the fire isn't the only part of an explosion that can hurt you, and it's not like as long as the visible part of the fire doesn't touch you, explosions aren't actually dangerous?
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Lynyrd_Skynyrd
07/14/21 10:58:34 PM
#92:


ForteEXE3850 posted...
So, how widespread is known that the fire isn't the only part of an explosion that can hurt you, and it's not like as long as the fire doesn't touch you, explosions aren't actually dangerous?
I think everyone but Hollywood filmmakers knows that. It still looks cool though
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helIy
07/14/21 11:15:12 PM
#93:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
To be fair, it's the same one that's in Endgame, and he's identical to the main timeline version of himself up to the point where the timelines diverged in The Avengers, so the one in the show is technically more villainous and less comedic than the one in the main timeline. At least prior to the show itself.
thank you for describing what a variant is

and no, the movie one is more comedic, actually, given that variant loki isn't exactly funny, but movie loki still went through the ragnarok movie where he is considered very funny, and show loki did, in fact, not do any of those things after the first avengers movie.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
And the show version of him isn't actually the one we're talking about anyway.

except i am, specifically when i mentioned what he did in the show

ParanoidObsessive posted...
He's not a villain in the show.

loki is, in fact, a villain in the show.


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Metalsonic66
07/14/21 11:24:17 PM
#94:


ForteEXE3850 posted...
So, how common is the knowledge that the fire isn't the only part of an explosion that can hurt you, and it's not like as long as the visible part of the fire doesn't touch you, explosions aren't actually dangerous?


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Revelation34
07/15/21 2:15:29 AM
#95:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
there's an argument to be made that he's more victim than villain,


I guess the Hulk beating was that bad after all.
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Mead
07/15/21 3:16:17 AM
#96:


That movie was okay

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SeahorseCpt89
07/21/21 5:04:04 PM
#97:


I just saw it and I can safely say it was.......ok. Not bad but definitely in the mid-tier when it comes to the MCU movies.

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