Current Events > DB Super jumped the shark after the Tournament of Power

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Josiah_Is_Back 07/01/21 7:03:56 PM #1:	Jiren was regarded as the strongest mortal in the multiverse, even more powerful than his God of Destruction. He and Goku transcended the power level of the gods. Now you've got more people in Goku's universe alone who are "even stronger," while Beerus of course remains a moving goalpost who can OHKO everyone. Ugh. <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:955650722] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Jiren was regarded as the strongest mortal in the multiverse, even more powerful than his God of Destruction. He and Goku transcended the power level of the gods. Now you've got more people in Goku's universe alone who are "even stronger," while Beerus of course remains a moving goalpost who can OHKO everyone. Ugh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TuckersImp 07/01/21 7:17:14 PM #2:	Huh? The tournament ended the series. --- https://images.app.goo.gl/UTtGoLvRBsGKBHKS9 <cite>TuckersImp posted [p:955651177] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Huh? The tournament ended the series.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KlRBEH 07/01/21 7:18:17 PM #3:	Kind of funny that of all the places you would pick for Super to jump the shark, you somehow picked the part where it actually gets good --- https://imgur.com/fUaBI I NEEDUH MONSTA TA CLOBBA DAT DERE KIRBEH <cite>KlRBEH posted [p:955651208] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Kind of funny that of all the places you would pick for Super to jump the shark, you somehow picked the part where it actually gets good </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumpo 07/01/21 7:18:29 PM #4:	El Gran Padre and Gohan Calvo are multiverse busters <cite>Trumpo posted [p:955651217] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>El Gran Padre and Gohan Calvo are multiverse busters </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 07/01/21 7:21:35 PM #5:	Super Jumped the shark at evil Goku --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:955651312] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Super Jumped the shark at evil Goku </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MyWifeBeatsMe 07/01/21 7:22:04 PM #6:	What about El Hermano? <cite>MyWifeBeatsMe posted [p:955651328] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>What about El Hermano? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BipBapBam 07/01/21 7:24:55 PM #7:	Irony posted... Super Jumped the shark at evil Goku But he was unironically one of the best villains in the entire series. --- Regardless of warnings, the future doesn't scare me at all. This is where the fun begins. <cite>BipBapBam posted [p:955651431] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite> <quote>Super Jumped the shark at evil Goku</quote>But he was unironically one of the best villains in the entire series. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 07/01/21 7:26:40 PM #8:	Dragon Ball has always been "Hey, this new guy is stronger than the last guy you fought who almost ended the world. Go fight him." I'm 100% certain we'll see someone stronger than the Angels and even Zeno one day. TuckersImp posted... Huh? The tournament ended the series. The manga is still going on. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:955651502] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Dragon Ball has always been "Hey, this new guy is stronger than the last guy you fought who almost ended the world. Go fight him." I'm 100% certain we'll see someone stronger than the Angels and even Zeno one day. TuckersImp posted... </cite> <quote>Huh? The tournament ended the series.</quote>The manga is still going on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 07/01/21 7:27:13 PM #9:	BipBapBam posted... But he was unironically one of the best villains in the entire series. In what way? I don't think a word out of his mouth hasn't been said by a dragon quest boss. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:955651518] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>BipBapBam posted... </cite> <quote>But he was unironically one of the best villains in the entire series.</quote> In what way? I don't think a word out of his mouth hasn't been said by a dragon quest boss. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 07/01/21 7:27:14 PM #10:	BipBapBam posted... But he was unironically one of the best villains in the entire series. No. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:955651519] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>BipBapBam posted... </cite> <quote>But he was unironically one of the best villains in the entire series.</quote> No. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 07/01/21 7:28:05 PM #11:	Scotty_Rogers posted... No. thus it has been confirmed yes by the Scotty rules of Dragon Ball --- Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:955651546] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted... </cite> <quote>No.</quote>thus it has been confirmed yes by the Scotty rules of Dragon Ball </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PC-Builder_Pony 07/01/21 7:29:33 PM #12:	Jiren wasnt from their universe though --- Mac Book Pro 16 - 6-Core i7-9750H @ 2.60GHz - 32gb DDR4 2667 MHz - Radeon Pro 5500M 8gb - 2TB Apple SSD <cite>PC-Builder_Pony posted [p:955651586] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Jiren wasnt from their universe though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 07/01/21 7:31:26 PM #13:	Beerus solo'd the other GoDs It is weird Beerus didn't master UI by now, but I guess this newest chapter explains why --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:955651651] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Beerus solo'd the other GoDs It is weird Beerus didn't master UI by now, but I guess this newest chapter explains why </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 07/01/21 7:33:20 PM #14:	So is the show still making new cartoons, or is this just maga thing. Because I assumed that it was done and over ? Are Krillin and Gohan still losers? --- Kamala Harris: "I don't think America is a racist country" <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:955651698] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>So is the show still making new cartoons, or is this just maga thing. Because I assumed that it was done and over ? Are Krillin and Gohan still losers? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 07/01/21 7:33:26 PM #15:	It's hard to believe the current age they're in the story of Super is Age 780, that's the same Age Future Gohan was killed by the androids and future trunks became a super saiyan for the first time. It's hard to believe that the Kid Trunks of the main line age would have absolutely no problems whatsoever defeating and killing Future Android 17 and 18, through "Future" is kinda pointless now, it'd be better to all them timeline alts, but then again I suppose that's no longer accurate as well given happened in the anime --- A worthless existence <cite>tremain07 posted [p:955651701] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>It's hard to believe the current age they're in the story of Super is Age 780, that's the same Age Future Gohan was killed by the androids and future trunks became a super saiyan for the first time. It's hard to believe that the Kid Trunks of the main line age would have absolutely no problems whatsoever defeating and killing Future Android 17 and 18, through "Future" is kinda pointless now, it'd be better to all them timeline alts, but then again I suppose that's no longer accurate as well given happened in the anime </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 07/01/21 7:36:44 PM #16:	BipBapBam posted... But he was unironically one of the best villains in the entire series. No --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:955651803] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>BipBapBam posted... </cite> <quote>But he was unironically one of the best villains in the entire series.</quote>No </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 07/01/21 7:37:43 PM #17:	cjsdowg posted... So is the show still making new cartoons, or is this just maga thing. Because I assumed that it was done and over ? Are Krillin and Gohan still losers? The manga is still going on, and we have confirmation that there will be a new canon movie coming next year. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:955651836] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite> <quote>So is the show still making new cartoons, or is this just maga thing. Because I assumed that it was done and over ? Are Krillin and Gohan still losers?</quote>The manga is still going on, and we have confirmation that there will be a new canon movie coming next year. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sLaCkEr408___RJ 07/01/21 7:38:14 PM #18:	Dragon Ball jumped the shark when King Piccolo killed Shenron <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:955651853] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Dragon Ball jumped the shark when King Piccolo killed Shenron </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Office_pwnz 07/01/21 7:38:27 PM #19:	idk i think the lazy pallet swaps was more "jumping the shark". That and the retcon that nothing in dbz mattered, potara now have a time limit, etc. Plus the insistence that all the new stuff is canon for some reason. it's a really poorly done show, kinda ruins the legacy. Very lazy --- https://imgur.com/akrc5X8 <cite>The_Office_pwnz posted [p:955651858] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>idk i think the lazy pallet swaps was more "jumping the shark". That and the retcon that nothing in dbz mattered, potara now have a time limit, etc. Plus the insistence that all the new stuff is canon for some reason. it's a really poorly done show, kinda ruins the legacy. Very lazy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 07/01/21 7:41:24 PM #20:	Solar_Crimson posted... The manga is still going on, and we have confirmation that there will be a new canon movie coming next year. thanks --- Kamala Harris: "I don't think America is a racist country" <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:955651967] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>The manga is still going on, and we have confirmation that there will be a new canon movie coming next year.</quote> thanks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CraziestCal 07/01/21 7:46:54 PM #21:	The first fight with Beerus they were so strong their punches were about to destroy the universe or something. Now they are even stronger but that does not seem to be an issue? --- Vaseline... You know what I mean. <cite>CraziestCal posted [p:955652143] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>The first fight with Beerus they were so strong their punches were about to destroy the universe or something. Now they are even stronger but that does not seem to be an issue? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Office_pwnz 07/01/21 7:57:34 PM #22:	CraziestCal posted... The first fight with Beerus they were so strong their punches were about to destroy the universe or something. Now they are even stronger but that does not seem to be an issue? also, master roshi is now on a similar level to everyone else. ugh --- https://imgur.com/akrc5X8 <cite>The_Office_pwnz posted [p:955652493] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>CraziestCal posted... </cite> <quote>The first fight with Beerus they were so strong their punches were about to destroy the universe or something. Now they are even stronger but that does not seem to be an issue?</quote>also, master roshi is now on a similar level to everyone else. ugh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 07/01/21 8:03:58 PM #23:	Was it ever confirmed in the manga that Jiren was stronger than his GoD? The manga at least tries to be somewhat consistent with power level, the anime doesnt care at all and says all sorts of crazy stuff. --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:955652686] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Was it ever confirmed in the manga that Jiren was stronger than his GoD? The manga at least tries to be somewhat consistent with power level, the anime doesnt care at all and says all sorts of crazy stuff. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sLaCkEr408___RJ 07/01/21 8:38:49 PM #24:	CraziestCal posted... The first fight with Beerus they were so strong their punches were about to destroy the universe or something. Now they are even stronger but that does not seem to be an issue? Simply powering up to Super Saiyan 3 caused massive natural disasters across planet Earth. <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:955653731] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>CraziestCal posted... </cite> <quote>The first fight with Beerus they were so strong their punches were about to destroy the universe or something. Now they are even stronger but that does not seem to be an issue?</quote>Simply powering up to Super Saiyan 3 caused massive natural disasters across planet Earth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 07/01/21 8:43:02 PM #25:	base Rolf > jiren --- Life is just a journey from the maternity ward to the crematorium. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:955653864] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>base Rolf > jiren </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 07/01/21 8:44:34 PM #26:	Nukazie posted... base Rolf > jiren This man is spittin facts --- My Mario Maker 2 Maker ID is J2K-RFD-K4G Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:955653912] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Nukazie posted... </cite> <quote>base Rolf > jiren</quote> This man is spittin facts </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiritSephiroth 07/01/21 8:46:10 PM #27:	The_Office_pwnz posted... also, master roshi is now on a similar level to everyone else. ugh Wait, is that whole "can access ultra instinct to an extent" bullshit still occuring in the manga? That was literally the stupidest thing DB has ever done. --- https://imgur.com/spfW7gv https://imgur.com/EAuZ5LW https://imgur.com/ZzXmr8X <cite>SpiritSephiroth posted [p:955653963] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>The_Office_pwnz posted... </cite> <quote>also, master roshi is now on a similar level to everyone else. ugh</quote> Wait, is that whole "can access ultra instinct to an extent" bullshit still occuring in the manga? That was literally the stupidest thing DB has ever done. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 07/02/21 12:08:17 PM #28:	Honestly Roshi doing faux UI isnt that big of a stretch. All he does is beat off and do training Some would argue that is peak male mindset. Total openness to oneself. The down side is being horny detracts the mind and body from syncing and reacting, so everyone tried to put Roshi in a state of refractory permanently - Mastered Ultra Refractory Roshi. It turns him into a a MURRder machine. --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:955671472] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Honestly Roshi doing faux UI isnt that big of a stretch. All he does is beat off and do training Some would argue that is peak male mindset. Total openness to oneself. The down side is being horny detracts the mind and body from syncing and reacting, so everyone tried to put Roshi in a state of refractory permanently - Mastered Ultra Refractory Roshi. It turns him into a a MURRder machine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 07/03/21 8:46:27 PM #29:	SpiritSephiroth posted... Wait, is that whole "can access ultra instinct to an extent" bullshit still occuring in the manga? That was literally the stupidest thing DB has ever done. He dodged a couple moves from Jiren when Jiren assumed he was a scrub, but Jiren stomped him right after that. Roshi is def not SSJ Blue level. It just served as the final inspiration for Goku for UI, he just had to expand on what the Turtle School taught him --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:955718110] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>SpiritSephiroth posted... </cite> <quote>Wait, is that whole "can access ultra instinct to an extent" bullshit still occuring in the manga? That was literally the stupidest thing DB has ever done.</quote> He dodged a couple moves from Jiren when Jiren assumed he was a scrub, but Jiren stomped him right after that. Roshi is def not SSJ Blue level. It just served as the final inspiration for Goku for UI, he just had to expand on what the Turtle School taught him </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 07/03/21 8:53:12 PM #30:	cjsdowg posted... maga --- I do not receive notifications, so using the @ feature will not do anything. I might see your post and respond though if I have already been in the topic. <cite>Machete posted [p:955718293] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote>maga </quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xavier_On_High 07/03/21 9:03:46 PM #31:	UI Roshi makes sense, since UI is more like a state of mind than a power level and he is a master martial artist. I like the idea of it acting as a balance against the ridiculous power creep. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif <cite>Xavier_On_High posted [p:955718556] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>UI Roshi makes sense, since UI is more like a state of mind than a power level and he is a master martial artist. I like the idea of it acting as a balance against the ridiculous power creep. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pow Pow Punishment 07/03/21 9:28:27 PM #32:	They're doing a pretty good job explaining. Both Moro and Granolah started weaker than Goku and Vegeta, but took crazy cheating measures to obtain power. Moro especially was decently layed-out because he actually got severely outmatched at first but eventually developed using weird non-ki magic to absorb power like Buu. That's believable. Granolah is a bit more of an ass-pull, just wishing the dragon to unlock any possible potential (he shouldn't be more powerful than Gohan who went through a similar process), but whatever, that storyline has been so fun I'm dismissing that. At least they tried, if both cases were simply "A new villain more powerful than before showed up" then that'd be crap. Goku Black was dumber than both of them even though I thought he was a cool villain overall. Unliimited zenkais, but Goku's and Vegeta's zenkai ability suddenly stopped because it had reached its limit? Yeah okay. --- Currently playing: Skyrim, Hearthstone Training log: https://powpowpunishment.blogspot.com <cite>Pow Pow Punishment posted [p:955719203] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>They're doing a pretty good job explaining. Both Moro and Granolah started weaker than Goku and Vegeta, but took crazy cheating measures to obtain power. Moro especially was decently layed-out because he actually got severely outmatched at first but eventually developed using weird non-ki magic to absorb power like Buu. That's believable. Granolah is a bit more of an ass-pull, just wishing the dragon to unlock any possible potential (he shouldn't be more powerful than Gohan who went through a similar process), but whatever, that storyline has been so fun I'm dismissing that. At least they tried, if both cases were simply "A new villain more powerful than before showed up" then that'd be crap. Goku Black was dumber than both of them even though I thought he was a cool villain overall. Unliimited zenkais, but Goku's and Vegeta's zenkai ability suddenly stopped because it had reached its limit? Yeah okay. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiritSephiroth 07/03/21 9:48:57 PM #33:	Pow Pow Punishment posted... Goku Black was dumber than both of them even though I thought he was a cool villain overall. Unliimited zenkais, but Goku's and Vegeta's zenkai ability suddenly stopped because it had reached its limit? Yeah okay. I like to think it stops being majorly effective until they can breakthrough to the next stage. Just like with ascended saiyan, Majin, SSJ3, the God forms and not leaking ki outside, kaioken and blue ect Everytime they make a breakthrough they continue boosting their power again. --- https://imgur.com/spfW7gv https://imgur.com/EAuZ5LW https://imgur.com/ZzXmr8X <cite>SpiritSephiroth posted [p:955719759] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Pow Pow Punishment posted... </cite> <quote>Goku Black was dumber than both of them even though I thought he was a cool villain overall. Unliimited zenkais, but Goku's and Vegeta's zenkai ability suddenly stopped because it had reached its limit? Yeah okay.</quote> I like to think it stops being majorly effective until they can breakthrough to the next stage. Just like with ascended saiyan, Majin, SSJ3, the God forms and not leaking ki outside, kaioken and blue ect Everytime they make a breakthrough they continue boosting their power again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sLaCkEr408___RJ 07/04/21 12:04:20 PM #34:	Xavier_On_High posted... UI Roshi makes sense, since UI is more like a state of mind than a power level and he is a master martial artist. I like the idea of it acting as a balance against the ridiculous power creep. This state of mind was mattered by Goku in Dragon Ball. Taught by Popo <cite>sLaCkEr408___RJ posted [p:955734670] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Xavier_On_High posted... </cite> <quote>UI Roshi makes sense, since UI is more like a state of mind than a power level and he is a master martial artist. I like the idea of it acting as a balance against the ridiculous power creep.</quote>This state of mind was mattered by Goku in Dragon Ball. Taught by Popo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Weezy_Tha_Don 07/04/21 12:07:51 PM #35:	Nukazie posted... base Rolf > jiren your garden is overgrown and your cucumbers are soft! --- https://imgur.com/hwZyGuA - courtesy of the homie United_World I speak my mind, cause biting my tongue hurts. <cite>Weezy_Tha_Don posted [p:955734766] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Nukazie posted... </cite> <quote>base Rolf > jiren</quote> your garden is overgrown and your cucumbers are soft! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulGrave 07/04/21 12:53:45 PM #36:	Pow Pow Punishment posted... Granolah is a bit more of an ass-pull, just wishing the dragon to unlock any possible potential (he shouldn't be more powerful than Gohan who went through a similar process), but whatever, that storyline has been so fun I'm dismissing that. At least they tried, if both cases were simply "A new villain more powerful than before showed up" then that'd be crap. How do people still not understand how the wish worked? --- When Kaidou fails to keep up with Luffy in their next fight remember this conversation - MrDrMan <cite>ViewtifulGrave posted [p:955736043] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>Pow Pow Punishment posted... </cite> <quote>Granolah is a bit more of an ass-pull, just wishing the dragon to unlock any possible potential (he shouldn't be more powerful than Gohan who went through a similar process), but whatever, that storyline has been so fun I'm dismissing that. At least they tried, if both cases were simply "A new villain more powerful than before showed up" then that'd be crap.</quote>How do people still not understand how the wish worked? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nasty_Nitro 07/04/21 1:05:00 PM #37:	The only way Dragon Ball can jump the shark is if the dragonballs become obsolete it is always 100% possible that someone could have wished for more powers --- OG status Triple OG Status Jaguars, Miami Heat, ROH, NJPW, AEW supporter <cite>Nasty_Nitro posted [p:955736363] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>The only way Dragon Ball can jump the shark is if the dragonballs become obsolete it is always 100% possible that someone could have wished for more powers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/04/21 1:18:30 PM #38:	AngelsNAirwav3s posted... Was it ever confirmed in the manga that Jiren was stronger than his GoD? The manga at least tries to be somewhat consistent with power level, the anime doesnt care at all and says all sorts of crazy stuff. Yeah Jiren in the manga was far less impressive or powerful --- Oda break tracker 2021- 5 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 7-1 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 8-8 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:955736737] in DB Super j... [t:79543867]...</cite> <quote>AngelsNAirwav3s posted...</cite> <quote>Was it ever confirmed in the manga that Jiren was stronger than his GoD? The manga at least tries to be somewhat consistent with power level, the anime doesnt care at all and says all sorts of crazy stuff. </quote> Yeah Jiren in the manga was far less impressive or powerful</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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