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Smackems
06/30/21 1:21:57 AM
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I just can't make myself play 3. Idk why. I've seen it played a lot and it just feels slow and clunky compared to the afore mentioned 2 games

Should I skip straight to Fusion? I'm probably gonna do it anyway

Idk why I'm making this topic

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Trumble
06/30/21 1:23:20 AM
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I felt the same about Super (haven't played Samus Returns tho; only Zero and now playing Fusion).

If I had to guess I'd say I'm probably about 70% or so of the way through Fusion. It's not as good as Zero Mission (which was an excellent game) but still well worth playing.

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Smackems
06/30/21 1:25:04 AM
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Trumble posted...
I felt the same about Super (haven't played Samus Returns tho; only Zero and now playing Fusion).

If I had to guess I'd say I'm probably about 70% or so of the way through Fusion. It's not as good as Zero Mission (which was an excellent game) but still well worth playing.
I beat fusion when it came out but don't remember much. I played ZM for the first time a couple weeks ago and fucking loved it

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Trumble
06/30/21 1:28:20 AM
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Smackems posted...
I beat fusion when it came out but don't remember much. I played ZM for the first time a couple weeks ago and fucking loved it
I played ZM recently, it was my first Metroid game. I quite enjoy a lot of Metroidvania titles in general, but hadn't played any actual Metroid or Castlevania games until recently (still haven't on the Castlevania side).

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ShyOx
06/30/21 1:29:45 AM
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What are the consoles of the respective titles?

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Trumble
06/30/21 1:30:32 AM
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ShyOx posted...
What are the consoles of the respective titles?
Super Metroid is SNES; Zero Mission and Fusion are both GBA.

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DespondentDeity
06/30/21 1:32:24 AM
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I have much more nostalgia and fondness for the original Metroid II than any other game in the series, it was the first game that stomped me over and over but I couldnt put down and eventually overcame.

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 1:34:23 AM
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Super Metroid

Of course you can skip it. Youll come back to it when youre ready. It only takes a few hours to beat each of these games, you know? One big thing is making sure you are sprinting the whole time. It speeds things up significantly & most of the tough puzzles involve it (sprint!). ~ Super Metroid is the most dense. You might be getting this sense that the developers are trying to trick you into going around in circles until you look up a guide that reveals an extremely obscure brick you need to destroy to gain access to the next level.... so then you can learn about all their crazy tricks & cocooning move.....

You would be correct.

Play Super after you beat the other games

If you still cant get into Super, beat them again!!!

For the love of god please at least try to play Metroid 1987 (NES) & 1991 (Return of Samus) after youre done with Fusion.........
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Smackems
06/30/21 1:35:46 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
Super Metroid

Of course you can skip it. Youll come back to it when youre ready. It only takes a few hours to beat each of these games, you know? One big thing is making sure you are sprinting the whole time. It speeds things up significantly & most of the tough puzzles involve it (sprint!). ~ Super Metroid is the most dense. You might be getting this sense that the developers are trying to trick you into going around in circles until you look up a guide that reveals an extremely obscure brick you need to destroy to gain access to the next level.... so then you can learn about all their crazy tricks & cocooning move.....

You would be correct.

Play Super after you beat the other games

If you still cant get into Super, beat them again!!!

For the love of god please at least try to play Metroid 1987 (NES) & 1991 (Return of Samus) after youre done with Fusion.........
I played the og Metroid when I was a kid

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 1:37:59 AM
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Super is like Fusion. Until you reach the last quarter, were not really playing the same game. Remember, Samus always starts weak.
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Smackems
06/30/21 1:41:00 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
Super is like Fusion. Until you reach the last quarter, were not really playing the same game. Remember, Samus always starts weak.
Yeah it's not just about it being slower tho. It's some kind of mental block. Maybe because I've seen so much super since I was a kid and beyond

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 1:42:01 AM
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If you run the other games a few times, you should be good enough to blast through it. Have you gotten to Kraid? Kraid is extremely motivating.
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The Popo
06/30/21 1:43:54 AM
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Id only played the original Metroid (NES - beat it), about one hour of Zero Mission, and hour of Metroid II (Gameboy), and beaten Metroid Prime twice.

Recently, I played Resident Evil Remake for the first time (my first RE game) and loved it. Got me thinking that I should go back and play some of the classics I missed out on. So Im currently about 6 hours into Super Metroid. Having a really fun time with it, outside of a chunk of time where it took me longer than it shoulda to find the Ice Beam. But yeah, I think the game holds up.

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Smackems
06/30/21 1:44:01 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
If you run the other games a few times, you should be good enough to blast through it. Have you gotten to Kraid? Kraid is extremely motivating.
Yeah I think I've gotten about halfway before

Btw I feel like this about other SNES games too like link to the past and ff6. I just cannot for the life of me make myself play them despite growing up with them and having a ton of nostalgia for them

I got SNES block

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DespondentDeity
06/30/21 1:44:43 AM
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I also find it frustrating to play Super after having watched dozens and hundreds of hours of people who are really good at the tech like Oatsngoats or Zoast, and like, not even being able to do a single instance of mach ball or down back despite practicing what felt like quite a bit.

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 1:45:28 AM
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You run into a room and take damage because you dont have Varia.

The game puts roadblocks in your way that dissuades exploration because they require items you dont have yet.

Super is best for replay value 100%

The first time is rough stuff XD

*trying* to figure out the Grappling Beam on your first run like LOL Help me Im in Hell!p me!!

Pro Tip: get real good at wall-jumping. You can skip most of the Grapple sections.
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catboy
06/30/21 2:33:29 AM
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It's OK to skip if you want to, but it has a very important story element in it.

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Smackems
06/30/21 2:35:05 AM
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catboy posted...
It's OK to skip if you want to, but it has a very important story element in it.
I'll just watch the story in youtube

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Dark_SilverX
06/30/21 2:39:07 AM
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play Other: M

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 2:40:43 AM
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Tbh

I like Other: M

the backstory just didnt do it for me at all

but the Ridley stuff is cool.
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AlisLandale
06/30/21 2:41:11 AM
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Really the only part of Super that matters is the intro stage, and Tourian. So if you just want the story thats what you need before moving onto Fusion.

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 2:42:43 AM
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The story is Ridley kidnapped the Baby Metroid you saved and Samus comes to clean it up. Mother Brain was resurrected & destroyed again. The end.

It has no bearing on Fusion. If youre familiar with the characters before going into Fusion, you will be fine.
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Smackems
06/30/21 2:49:45 AM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
play Other: M
I kinda want to tbh. It can't be that bad

Xethuminra posted...
The story is Ridley kidnapped the Baby Metroid you saved and Samus comes to clean it up. Mother Brain was resurrected & destroyed again. The end.

It has no bearing on Fusion. If youre familiar with the characters before going into Fusion, you will be fine.
I just watched a recap. I've seen playthroughs before and pretty much already knew it

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 2:50:37 AM
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All the Metroid die and she Kills Ridley for good this time

Thats the story. Im serious
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AlisLandale
06/30/21 2:51:13 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
It has no bearing on Fusion.

AKSHULLY space Chocobo

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 2:52:23 AM
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We dont talk about that ;)

Theyre a total Easter Egg & a pain to free anyway
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MrMallard
06/30/21 2:56:46 AM
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If you're not into Super Metroid, keep an eye out for this game called A Robot Named Fight. It's a roguelike metroidvania, heavy on the Metroid influence, and it has the stiffer controls of Super with a few powerups over the course of the run that makes the character feel a lot more slick and fluid as time goes on.

I'm not too hot on Super Metroid's physics either - Zero Mission was my first Metroid game, and arguably my first Metroidvania too. Super Metroid is just a lot more clunky in comparison, it comes with age and innovation.

But having played A Robot Named Fight as much as I have - about a hundred hours, with nearly everything unlocked - I think I can tackle Super Metroid now. I won't know until I try, but I will say that the physics of ARNF have helped me come to terms with the idea of a Samus that's weirdly floaty but weirdly dense at the same time.

I've recommended it to Metroid fans before, and not everyone tends to like it - but it might be worth looking into, especially when it goes on sale.

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Smackems
06/30/21 2:58:39 AM
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Sorry but I severely hate roguelikes

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 3:09:05 AM
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The Chozo genocide from the 2001 manga is pretty cool tbh
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Smackems
06/30/21 3:21:24 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
The Chozo genocide from the 2001 manga is pretty cool tbh
Is it canon and obtainable in English?

Also I think I'm gonna try other m

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 3:21:56 AM
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Smackems posted...
Is it canon and obtainable in English?
Yeah you can find it online no issue
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Smackems
06/30/21 3:23:26 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
Yeah you can find it online no issue
Eh I'm more of a physical guy

Also I edited my post to say I'm gonna try other m. Give me a break between 2d games. And I've never played it and want to see what's so bad

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 3:24:30 AM
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The story

Everything else is fine

The camera gets a bit wonky.....

...... like any other game ever
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DeadlyNinjaBees
06/30/21 3:27:13 AM
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If you take time away from newer Metroid games and come back it's just fine. Great even.

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 3:28:04 AM
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Im just about to start Prime

beating the quad before doing so is a rite of passage for me
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DeadlyNinjaBees
06/30/21 3:29:21 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
Im just about to start Prime

beating the quad before doing so is a rite of passage for me
Me too, man. Only finished the first and semi-started the 2nd. Never youched the third.
I've got that Wii collection though, so I wanna have a crack at the whole trilogy.

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 3:31:27 AM
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Echoes has a cool gameplay thing & the Luminoth are a cool offshoot of the Chozo. Dark Samus is also a thing.

Corruption is very story-oriented, and you get to travel the galaxy, and interact with the Federation & other Bounty Hunters

Its verrrrry different for a Metroid game......

Prime 1 stuck to the formula
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Smackems
06/30/21 3:33:00 AM
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Lol the quad

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 3:34:01 AM
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The Quad
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DeadlyNinjaBees
06/30/21 3:35:10 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
Corruption is very story-oriented, and you get to travel the galaxy, and interact with the Federation & other Bounty Hunters

Its verrrrry different for a Metroid game......

Prime 1 stuck to the formula
So, do I get to fly the spaceship in Prime 3?!?!?

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 3:36:11 AM
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DeadlyNinjaBees posted...
So, do I get to fly the spaceship in Prime 3?!?!?
You can interact with your ship & go from place to place

No Galaga mini-game, unfortunately
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catboy
06/30/21 4:02:52 AM
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I know a lot of people didn't like it, but I thoroughly enjoyed Prime 3

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 4:05:07 AM
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Me too.

I just kinda could tell how people would react and what it was. Lo & Behold

They love Dark Samus & Other M happened & Federation Force & dont play the originals yet!
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DeadlyNinjaBees
06/30/21 5:46:32 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
No Galaga mini-game, unfortunately
;_;

When will they learn that we also wanna have a go of the spaceship?
(Preferably from cockpit view).

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Xethuminra
06/30/21 5:48:03 AM
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In theory, they could base it off the boost-ball function from Metroid Prime & it should feel right.
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