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DarkRoast
06/30/21 7:03:40 PM
#151:


Noraneko_Vel posted...
Her DEF stat was added into her ATK stat

EDIT:

I bet if I used a DEF goblet instead of a GEO goblet I could get over 6000 ATK hee hee

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DarkRoast
06/30/21 7:11:21 PM
#152:


For some reason people just don't seem to believe me when I say C6 Noelle is legitimately one of the best characters in the entire game. Her stat scaling results in some truly bonkers numbers, both offensively and defensively.

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Noraneko_Vel
06/30/21 7:33:09 PM
#153:


It's not very well known just how far Noelle's power and usefulness goes and tier lists like to underrate her coz you need C6 with good gear.
genshin.gg likes to mislead players greatly, it took so long for them to raise the ridiculously powerful Noelle and Sucrose to A and S tier respectively.

I'll likely be phasing her out of my team when Ayaka and Sayu come out though.

  1. Tartaglia C0, Sayu C1/C2, Fischl C6, Traveler Ele C6
  2. Ayaka C0, Barbara C6, Klee C2, Sucrose C6 / Venti C0
I don't have Mona and completely refuse to use Xingqiu, so my Ayaka team looks underwhelming. Not worried about freezing tho coz all I need is to hit the enemy a few times as Barbara to get the stagger going on Ayaka's burst victims. And with a multiplier like 4300% that is 100% crit, it should deal quite some pain.

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DarkRoast
06/30/21 7:38:53 PM
#154:


My C6 Fischl with R5 Alley Hunter is unironically probably the single highest source of DPS (as a Sub DPS). Oz routinely hits for well over 10k. It's ludicrous.

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DarkRoast
06/30/21 7:57:12 PM
#155:


Those tier list websites are such a joke. Beidou is always in like C or D tier despite being absolutely ridiculous in damage output.

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Jshipp24
07/01/21 5:32:24 AM
#156:


DarkRoast posted...
Those tier list websites are such a joke. Beidou is always in like C or D tier despite being absolutely ridiculous in damage output.
From what i've seen recently everyone is gushing over how good Beidou is, at least on reddit that is, and she's been seeing a ton of use.

My search for Jean continues though. Just hit pity on standard again for C3 Qiqi. I should start keeping a daily tally until I eventually get her.

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Sayoria
07/01/21 6:24:08 AM
#157:


Just hit 50/50 pity and got a Diluc dupe. This was about 7 pulls after my second Kazuha, which was 5 after my first Kazuha. What's this luck lately.

Go for 2nd constellation or save guarantee for another character upcoming? The choices....

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meralonne
07/01/21 10:06:49 AM
#158:


And here I thought averaging a 5-star every 60 or so pulls was decent luck. =(

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Lukey_Bug
07/01/21 10:10:48 AM
#159:


Hah, my best luck was pulling Hu Tao. Prefarming for her ended up getting a near perfect CW set. Had her 90 talents 999 day one. Then I pulled Homa on the first 10 pull I ever did on the weapon banner.

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DarkRoast
07/01/21 12:10:41 PM
#160:


Well, I have a guaranteed hard pity in the next ten pulls. I was hoping to get Bennett to C5 (at C3 currently) but I don't want Kazuha

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Sayoria
07/01/21 1:45:30 PM
#161:


This game really wants me to build Kazuha.

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Lukey_Bug
07/01/21 1:54:43 PM
#162:


Even though i didn't want him i decided to build him up. I had five sword billets so i made an r5 iron sting for him. I really dont have anything else to give him cause I'm not trying to gamble on weapon banner. Good enough sword for him?

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DarkRoast
07/01/21 2:20:16 PM
#163:


Iron Sting seems perfect for him.

Speaking of perfect, highly underappreciated weapons...



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pogo_rabid
07/01/21 2:23:14 PM
#164:


Well I struck out on rolling for the new guy

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Noraneko_Vel
07/01/21 4:29:13 PM
#165:


For Ayaka:


+4% critrate (Skyward)
+38.4% critdmg (ascension)
+55.1% recharge (Skyward)
ATK will be different coz Rosaria is lv20
Skyward Blade will be lv90 if I decide I want to keep this gear.



What do you guys think about my Ayaka gear?
I want to keep my Aquila Favonia on Keqing and I'm not sure if I'll refine Black Sword R1.
She's a strong normal attacker, but I feel a lot of her power is hidden in the burst, so the recharge should make her capable of recovering it in time.
Critrate is high so that I can reach almost 100% on frozen enemies and she'll remain strong on enemies that aren't cryo.

The weakness is probably my low ATK? I can't tell how much I need because I don't have Ayaka yet, but she will be lv90 with lv90 weapon after I unlock and grind for her.

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DarkRoast
07/01/21 4:46:05 PM
#166:


First run of the new Abyss. 34 stars. Venti is once again so OP he's literally broken.

As for Ayaka, that looks OK but I would honestly wait until they finish tuning her, especially since Inazuma brings new sets.

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Noraneko_Vel
07/01/21 5:07:55 PM
#167:


DarkRoast posted...
As for Ayaka, that looks OK but I would honestly wait until they finish tuning her, especially since Inazuma brings new sets.

Yeah, if they switch her ascension stat to critrate, I guess my build would be ruined.
I doubt they'll make very big changes this late though, probably just base stat adjustments, QoL and multiplier / cooldown adjustments.

I don't like the thought of putting the recharge -> burst power or energy -> basic attack power sets on Ayaka. The consistency of the blizzard set is pretty nice for someone who has a very high hit count like Ayaka IMO.
Sayu's best seems to be Viridescent Venerer, too.

I definitely will grind the recharge set for Traveler Electro though.

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BigG777
07/01/21 5:53:37 PM
#168:


Sayoria posted...
This game really wants me to build Kazuha.

Does crit damage do anything for an EM build? I remember hearing swirl cannot crit or something.
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Noraneko_Vel
07/01/21 6:00:29 PM
#169:


Vaporize and Melt can crit coz they just multiply damage.
Reactions that deal damage of their own (including swirl) don't crit.

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DarkRoast
07/01/21 6:02:51 PM
#170:


You're thinking of Venti - his ultimate cannot crit because it only does periodic swirl damage. His e, however, can crit.

Anemo attacks that are up front damage will crit, but if they add a periodic reaction they won't make that reaction crit

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DarkRoast
07/01/21 8:04:58 PM
#171:


My Beidou is now at Lv. 70 with 5/9/9 talents. It's now time to try.... Fireworks Tartaglia. FINALLY!

https://youtu.be/EWkD7p6ypLU

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DarkRoast
07/01/21 8:13:47 PM
#172:


That Fireworks shit is bananas

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DarkRoast
07/01/21 11:12:51 PM
#173:




This is the face of unstoppable murder

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Irony
07/01/21 11:13:50 PM
#174:


Man I'm tempted to pull Kazuha, but I'd never get constellations.

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DarkRoast
07/01/21 11:45:12 PM
#175:




Gotta stop for a moment and admire at just how ****ing cool Beidou's design is

Also I just unlocked ascension to 80 for FULL COUNTER mastery

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DarkRoast
07/01/21 11:49:23 PM
#176:




Beidou you're a 4-star, your E shouldn't do 45k damage

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DarkRoast
07/01/21 11:52:17 PM
#177:




....does that seriously say 74,000 damage

Beidou is some SSS+ tier damage bro

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Irony
07/01/21 11:52:36 PM
#178:


Calm down

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DarkRoast
07/01/21 11:59:43 PM
#179:


I will not

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action52
07/02/21 2:39:15 AM
#180:


What weapons / artifacts you using @DarkRoast ?

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DarkRoast
07/02/21 12:47:20 PM
#181:


Thundering Fury and WGS with standard ATK/CR/CD and + Electro



Also... Fml that's what I get for pushing the envelope

On the bright side I just geared up Jean and her gear more or less translates to Kazuha

Might use Iron Sting instead of Favonius Sword tho

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DarkRoast
07/02/21 1:03:49 PM
#182:


Well if nothing else, his ult does a SHITload of damage with Fischl

And the one saving grace is that, as it turns out, he's the only character I have that uses Diligence books



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Raikuro
07/02/21 1:20:35 PM
#183:


That's part of why I decided to pull Kazuha lol, I was swimming in Diligence books since I stopped using Chongyun. Had no issue getting all his talents to 7+, just lacking mora to go further.
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meralonne
07/02/21 1:54:37 PM
#184:


DarkRoast posted...
Might use Iron Sting instead of Favonius Sword tho
Because Mihoyo likes curved swords about as much as your typical Skyrim guard, apparently.

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Lukey_Bug
07/02/21 2:10:23 PM
#185:


If anyone wants to vote on the next topic title Ill nominate "75% DarkRoast"

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Tyranthraxus
07/02/21 2:13:51 PM
#186:


Lukey_Bug posted...
If anyone wants to vote on the next topic title Ill nominate "75% DarkRoast"

I usually try to come up with something related to the current patch cycle.

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ChrisTaka
07/02/21 2:47:16 PM
#187:


Thinking of changing my Zhongli build to full HP. Trying to make him a Sub Burst DPS was cool for a while but it's starting to feel like I do his burst just to reset my shield rather than damage lol

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Tyranthraxus
07/02/21 2:50:26 PM
#188:


ChrisTaka posted...
Thinking of changing my Zhongli build to full HP. Trying to make him a Sub Burst DPS was cool for a while but it's starting to feel like I do his burst just to reset my shield rather than damage lol

This is what I did. Even the goblet is HP. He can surprisingly still dish out respectable damage with a full HP build. The shield itself is pretty nuts. You can tank essentially every attack in the game. Doesn't matter what. You don't even need to bother dodging Boreas.

The only time I ran into problems is if I intentionally let Childe hit me with those foul legacy follow up attacks.

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DarkRoast
07/02/21 4:26:56 PM
#189:


Since people made fun of how often I post, I'll just add this one last comment. Got Kazuha to Lv 50 and so far he's not what I expected. I guess I expected a more traditional sucrose / xingqiu sub DPS, but he's kind of a weird hybrid between a main DPS and a sub dps, almost like Childe. Pretty fun to play, though. Definitely not grossly overpowered, but I do think he has a lot more utility than most of the previous banner characters. Certainly not a one-trick pony like my C3 (ugh) Eula.

Just FYI - For those of you with both Kazuha and Childe, have Childe add Riptide to some enemies then have Kazuha do his jump-pull shenanigans and watch the hilarity

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meralonne
07/02/21 4:31:26 PM
#190:


I thought he was pretty fun to play in the demo, but I'm not pulling for him when I already have a C5 Sucrose riding pine and an absolute shit assortment of swords available for him. I mean, maybe the Iron Sting would work, but I'd otherwise be gifting him a three-star sword and that would be an utter waste of a five-star character.

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Irony
07/02/21 5:09:39 PM
#191:


I really wanna pull him, but I never pull units if I can't get constellations

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Jshipp24
07/03/21 4:57:00 AM
#192:


Mona is now my 16th Character to reach friendship lv.10 giving me the final achivement for friendship on Hero's Way. No idea how long until I reach the leyline requirement but I'll get there one day.


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Aitz
07/03/21 5:41:53 AM
#193:


Man, I should really start building up all of my other characters. I was so much focused on Ganyu, Hu Tao and Eula that I have neglected all others. Only Xiangling, Fischl, Xinqgiu, Zhongli Qiqi and Lumine are usable to some extent. Zhongli is perfectly fine even at Level 69 but others are just meh

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Jshipp24
07/03/21 6:10:05 AM
#194:


Aitz posted...
Man, I should really start building up all of my other characters. I was so much focused on Ganyu, Hu Tao and Eula that I have neglected all others. Only Xiangling, Fischl, Xinqgiu, Zhongli Qiqi and Lumine are usable to some extent. Zhongli is perfectly fine even at Level 69 but others are just meh
I just rotate out new teams as I max friendship characters, it takes some to max friendship so you have some time to plan out new characters although it doesn't always work it out since I technically don't have anyone to replace Mona since I just sided in Rosaria and Sucrose almost back to back.

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DarkRoast
07/03/21 7:36:29 AM
#195:


Jshipp24 posted...
I just rotate out new teams as I max friendship characters, it takes some to max friendship so you have some time to plan out new characters although it doesn't always work it out since I technically don't have anyone to replace Mona since I just sided in Rosaria and Sucrose almost back to back.

FYI - putting characters in the Serenetea Pot gets them friendship

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meralonne
07/03/21 10:33:39 AM
#196:


All this time, and I still only have eight characters at Friendship 10.
One at 9, two at 8.

The time it takes to get one from 9 to 10 feels like it's as long as the time it takes to get them from 1-9.

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Irony
07/03/21 12:22:03 PM
#197:


Ended up pulling 2 of him. How do you even build him? EM on everything since swirl can't crit?

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Noraneko_Vel
07/03/21 12:32:38 PM
#198:


Kazuha?

Swirl can't crit, but the attack that triggers swirl can.
People here like to say Venti's burst can't crit, but yes it can crit too. (just not all of it, because a lot of damage comes from the reactions inside the burst, too)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gNxZ2xab1J6o1TuNVWMeLOZ7TPOqrsf3SshP5DLvKzI/pubhtml?gid=100510092#

This table sheet is a very good guideline for building characters that gets updated constantly, and it says put elemastery on all artifact main stats, priority on flower/feather substats, otherwise recharge.

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Raikuro
07/03/21 1:55:16 PM
#199:


Kazuha does like some crit since he's constantly slamming to apply the swirl and his burst direct damage scales higher than Venti's and Sucrose's. Plus since EM main stat is just flat out rare it's probably easier to get a crit rate circlet with EM sub stat. He naturally has EM so squeezing a ton into his artifact main stats is kinda overrated IMO.
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Jshipp24
07/03/21 4:01:17 PM
#200:


DarkRoast posted...
FYI - putting characters in the Serenetea Pot gets them friendship
I'm aware, I just don't do the Tea Pot as much as I should.

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