Poll of the Day > Disney's First HISPANIC SNOW WHITE Slams RACISTS who Hate Her!! Is She Hot???

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It was more pink than white

Bob Clampett did something similar almost 80 years ago

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MeteoricBurst posted...

Hispanics can have snow white skin. And Puerto Rican isn't a race.

wow *clap clap*

tell me something I dont know

Im still Puerto Rican.

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Blightzkrieg posted...

Ugly Disney princesses are the second worst thing to come out of the 1930s, and thats by a very narrow margin.

Lmao

While i agree that "snow white" does kinda envoke a certain melanin deficient culture, I'd say given the casting this is hardly a issue.

People saying she needs to white, would cast someone who is pink as hell and be satisfied.

Would you guys be cool with it if it was albino? Black or otherwise?

adjl posted...

That's an option, but somehow I feel like casting a Colombian-American actress and then making her up to look super-white would end really, really badly.

It isn't explicitly set in Germany (afaik), nobody's specified to be white, there are no cultural references in there that rely on the characters being white... Certainly, the characters are presumed to be white, given the origins (the same can be said of most fairy tales), but there's nothing in there that relies on that.

I'm curious. What would it take to make something EXPLICITY white? Like, I'm sure a story set in the middle of Africa with everyone dressed in african tribal clothing speaking the native tongue would be considered 'explicitly set in Africa' and people would at least be against a non-african playing the role. So what else does a story that comes from Germany, typically set in a European setting, with kings, queens (both presented in traditionally european manners), dwarves, huntsmen, and witches, with a lead character named 'Snow White', named specifically for her skin tone, need to do to be MORE explicitly white?

Tradition for tradition's sake is stupid. "It's tradition" is not a defense of whatever you're discussing.

I disagree. Traditions are important for defining who you are as a people and culture and it's important for ensuring a unified identity and stability. Obviously you shouldn't keep them around JUST because and plenty are bad just as plenty are good, but even something small can help foster a sense of unity, stability, and so-forth.

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It's not like cartoon Snow White had the actual pallor of snow either. Who gives a fuck?

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deoxxys posted...

wow *clap clap*

tell me something I dont know

Im still Puerto Rican.

I mean that's the impression you gave. That you were qualified here or something because you were similar race as her. And you insinuated Hispanics don't have white skin when its actually common.

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I'm sorry but I always thought that Snow White was set in France, much like Beauty and the Beast and Cinderella. Then again perhaps I'm mistaken in that assumption since both France and Germany have castles, as does the UK and a few other countries.

MeteoricBurst posted...

I mean that's the impression you gave. That you were qualified here or something because you were similar race as her. And you insinuated Hispanics don't have white skin when its actually common.

Its not specifically that I am "qualified" but its that the progressive mindset is if you are white complaining about a poc replacing a white role, you are just a racist.

I admit its dumb.

Also I am fully aware that hispanic people can be very pale, thats my moms entire side of the family, my brothers, and myself.

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deoxxys posted...

Its not specifically that I am "qualified" but its that the progressive mindset is if you are white complaining about a poc replacing a white role, you are just a racist.

Yeah, specifically because there's no reason to complain about it unless you have a problem with non white people. None of the people complaining in this topic will even watch the movie.

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EvilMegas posted...

Yeah, specifically because there's no reason to complain about it unless you have a problem with non white people. None of the people complaining in this topic will even watch the movie.

Its more so the idea behind it.

If I can stand up against white-washing wouldnt it be inconsistent of my values to not stand up against "brown-washing"?

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Dude shut the fuck up with that nonsense

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More racists mad about fake characters?

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EvilMegas posted...

White people are mad once again!

When did they stop being mad?

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deoxxys posted...

Its more so the idea behind it.

If I can stand up against white-washing wouldnt it be inconsistent of my values to not stand up against "brown-washing"?

Is it really beyond the realm of reasonable possibility that this actress had the best audition for the role? Some of yall automatically assume every time a nonwhite person gets cast in a lead role that it is a pandering or political decision despite little to no evidence of that ever being the case. Its very stupid and most people are so sick of it.

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deoxxys posted...

Also I am fully aware that hispanic people can be very pale, thats my moms entire side of the family, my brothers, and myself.

I asked this question over on the movie board since duckbear made the same topic there: If this Rachel girl didn't have the Hispanic tag attached would anyone be questioning her ethnicity? If she was like French or something. I don't think so.

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Unbridled9 posted...

I'm curious. What would it take to make something EXPLICITY white? Like, I'm sure a story set in the middle of Africa with everyone dressed in african tribal clothing speaking the native tongue would be considered 'explicitly set in Africa' and people would at least be against a non-african playing the role. So what else does a story that comes from Germany, typically set in a European setting, with kings, queens (both presented in traditionally european manners), dwarves, huntsmen, and witches, with a lead character named 'Snow White', named specifically for her skin tone, need to do to be MORE explicitly white?

Nothing. As I said, that was talking about Princess and the Frog (which was a German fairy tale, but Disney adapted it to be about a black woman in Louisiana). Snow White is explicitly white, I agree.

Unbridled9 posted...

I disagree. Traditions are important for defining who you are as a people and culture and it's important for ensuring a unified identity and stability. Obviously you shouldn't keep them around JUST because and plenty are bad just as plenty are good, but even something small can help foster a sense of unity, stability, and so-forth.

The ones that are good, though, should be kept because they're good, not merely because they are traditions and foster a sense of unity. Uniting over something bad isn't healthy for anyone.

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One thing I really find hilarious is when White Supremacists get a genetic test and find out they're not white (that One Drop Rule is apparently way more strict than they assumed).

Although we do know it's not a requirement for the ideology, but it's hilarious watching them have to choose between being betas or being hypocrites.

Voldemort was literally half muggle, Darth Vader's dad was sand

Idk why it bothers them

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Blightzkrieg posted...

Voldemort was literally half muggle, Darth Vader's dad was sand

Idk why it bothers them

Just Googled about Hitler being Jewish, apparently he was also partially African, and his parents were related (I think they had a common grandparent), so he was also inbred.

Nothing. As I said, that was talking about Princess and the Frog (which was a German fairy tale, but Disney adapted it to be about a black woman in Louisiana). Snow White is explicitly white, I agree.

But the same is true for the Princess and the Frog. While P&F doesn't have dwarves and her skin color isn't a plot-point, we're still talking about a European fairytale in a European setting in a time where everyone was almost exclusively white. Recasting it to have someone from an ethnicity that wasn't even in Europe at that time (and most certainly would not have been a princess) and everything else would be like having a Native American play Mulan.

The ones that are good, though, should be kept because they're good, not merely because they are traditions and foster a sense of unity. Uniting over something bad isn't healthy for anyone.

Of course the question then becomes 'what is good?'

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EvilMegas posted...

Dude shut the fuck up with that nonsense

What why? I am not going to be a hypocrite. Not going to just play one side of the coin.

Mead posted...

Is it really beyond the realm of reasonable possibility that this actress had the best audition for the role? Some of yall automatically assume every time a nonwhite person gets cast in a lead role that it is a pandering or political decision despite little to no evidence of that ever being the case. Its very stupid and most people are so sick of it.

Because I think the top priority is that a character should look like they are portrayed in their source material, I dont think thats much to ask for?

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deoxxys posted...

Because I think the top priority is that a character should look like they are portrayed in their source material, I dont think thats much to ask for?

No they dont. You can use make-up and costumes to do that
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c'mon y'all, you know who has the best snow, right?

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Mead posted...

Is it really beyond the realm of reasonable possibility that this actress had the best audition for the role?

Casting calls for a role almost always list the prefered ethnicity

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deoxxys posted...

Because I think the top priority is that a character should look like they are portrayed in their source material, I dont think thats much to ask for?

The *top* priority? Above acting ability? And in a transition where you're already guaranteed to get somebody that doesn't look much like the source material because real humans aren't cartoon characters?

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Zareth posted...

prefered ethnicity

But that means they could still technically choose a different one, right?
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LinkPizza posted...

But that means they could still technically choose a different one, right?

Its always possible

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adjl posted...

The *top* priority? Above acting ability? And in a transition where you're already guaranteed to get somebody that doesn't look much like the source material because real humans aren't cartoon characters?

What we dont have to be silly they dont litterally have to look like a cartoon character but jeez:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d9/f6/55/d9f6555c863016a41ae7af90599707c4.jpg

The girl they picked couldnt look less like Snow White, here is a hispanic girl while doing an okay job still looks more like that actress ever could:
https://tinyurl.com/3e5pz7rf

LinkPizza posted...

No they dont. You can use make-up and costumes to do that

I just think this girl is too far removed from the character asides from being a woman.

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MeteoricBurst posted...

I asked this question over on the movie board since duckbear made the same topic there: If this Rachel girl didn't have the Hispanic tag attached would anyone be questioning her ethnicity? If she was like French or something. I don't think so.

I dont know I cant speak for everyone but theres plenty of spanish girls that could look like Snow White, just not this one.

@MeteoricBurst

https://tinyurl.com/3e5pz7rf

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Zareth posted...

Casting calls for a role almost always list the prefered ethnicity

do they though?

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They should have done the good ol switcharoo with the Mulan actress.

Soup_or_Science posted...

So what is it? Do you guys want her to be white, or Caucasian?

Because she's bright e-damn-nough

Bright is not white, my man.

I love how you both don't know how white snow is, or what a Causasian actually is.

There's no reason they couldn't cast someone ethnically from like Mongolia or Hokkaido to meet pre-reqs while actively avoiding pale Europeans, but nah.
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deoxxys posted...

I dont know I cant speak for everyone but theres plenty of spanish girls that could look like Snow White, just not this one.

@MeteoricBurst

https://tinyurl.com/3e5pz7rf

Funny thing is I think people would still question the girl there if she was called Hispanic, even though she is pale. My point was no one would bother to ask if it wasn't mentioned this Rachel was Hispanic because people (in the US specifically) treat that like it's own race. You might have nitpicks over her not being fair enough but no talk about race. This Rachel girl has Polish father and Colombian mother (who looks to be non mixed Spaniard extract) so I'm not getting how she isn't European ethnically.

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deoxxys posted...

What we dont have to be silly they dont litterally have to look like a cartoon character but jeez:

"They don't have to literally look like the characters, just what I think they should look like"


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Snow white is the most boring looking disney princess. The actress look a lot hotter than original

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MeteoricBurst posted...

Funny thing is I think people would still question the girl there if she was called Hispanic, even though she is pale. My point was no one would bother to ask if it wasn't mentioned this Rachel was Hispanic because people (in the US specifically) treat that like it's own race. You might have nitpicks over her not being fair enough but no talk about race. This Rachel girl has Polish father and Colombian mother (who looks to be non mixed Spaniard extract) so I'm not getting how she isn't European ethnically.

But thats just the thing, I am not judging off what ethnicity she is, I am judging off how she looks nothing like Snow White (ex: gaunt face, extremely pointy chin, olive skin, her facial expression may be the only thing that she does well if she can do the exaggerated "oh noooo" snow white thing with her fingertips to her cheeks)

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MeteoricBurst posted...

I'm not getting how she isn't European ethnically.

It's as though Spaniards aren't snow white either. She's not Snow European, she's Snow White, ethnicity is irrelevant.
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deoxxys posted...

But thats just the thing, I am not judging off what ethnicity she is, I am judging off how she looks nothing like Snow White (ex: gaunt face, extremely pointy chin, olive skin, her facial expression may be the only thing that she does well if she can do the exaggerated "oh noooo" snow white thing with her fingertips to her cheeks)

except we dont have a realistic version of snow white. We don't have much in the way of known features other than skin and hair color. Her original design is basically a pin-up tattoo with few facial details. This is mostly due to the art/animation style of the time. There have been modern interpretations, that no one complained about cuz everything wasn't a problem then, but none are what i would call accurate.

Outside of her skin tone(easy fix) and being a little gaunt(easy fix) I actually see the snow white look in her.

but no one cares that dwarf is ableist

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Link_of_time posted...

except we dont have a realistic version of snow white. We don't have much in the way of known features other than skin and hair color. Her original design is basically a pin-up tattoo with few facial details. This is mostly due to the art/animation style of the time. There have been modern interpretations, that no one complained about cuz everything wasn't a problem then, but none are what i would call accurate.

Outside of her skin tone(easy fix) and being a little gaunt(easy fix) I actually see the snow white look in her.

@Link_of_time
I mean just google Snow White cosplay and take your pick.
Lots of girls look plenty close to Snow White.

Heres the one I picked:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d9/f6/55/d9f6555c863016a41ae7af90599707c4.jpg

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deoxxys posted...

@Link_of_time
I mean just google Snow White cosplay and take your pick.
Lots of girls look plenty close to Snow White.

Heres the one I picked:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d9/f6/55/d9f6555c863016a41ae7af90599707c4.jpg

Cosplay? If that's the criteria then this is non-issue. And the girl the picture is cute but doesn't really look like snow white

deoxxys posted...

@Link_of_time
I mean just google Snow White cosplay and take your pick.
Lots of girls look plenty close to Snow White.

Heres the one I picked:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d9/f6/55/d9f6555c863016a41ae7af90599707c4.jpg

That's like one shade lighter than the girl in the first post.

Nice try, racist.

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Its going to suck like every other live action Disney remake anyway so why bother even caring who they cast for these roles anymore?

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

It's as though Spaniards aren't snow white either. She's not Snow European, she's Snow White, ethnicity is irrelevant.

Well if that's what you're going for they should have casted an albino black girl like I said before.

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Stop wasting all your mental energy reacting to fucking tabloids

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EvilMegas posted...

That's like one shade lighter than the girl in the first post.

Nice try, racist.

@EvilMegas

I am going to assume this is a troll post because #1 they are very obviously different shades. #2 because you have no basis for crying racism. #3 I dont owe you or anyone an explanation but I am Puerto Rican. Growing up with my family and how they celebrate heritage has always made me passionate for ours and similar people. I see anyone who is Hispanic or Latino like you would cousins. Its hard not to feel like they are family when you share a lot of the same cultural background.

This actress just aint it, got nothing to do with racism lmao. She just looks nothing like Snow White. Also in the end, how much does my opinion really matter? Also why do you care so much about my opinion? In the end, she isnt going to be ousted from her position, shes been the chosen lead. Movie would have sucked regardless of who they picked anyway XD

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