Current Events > Is not wanting to sleep with or date a trans-person a preference or transphobic?

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Lairen
06/23/21 1:34:15 PM
#252:


ApoorHollow posted...
If that were the case wouldnt that go both ways?

300 votes to 30 votes is pretty massive.

Maybe there are members that dont want to post in fear of being ridiculed?

Trans people are pure with not alts. Im an evil hetero with an army of alts. In fact im the only person besides trans who voted.

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ROOTFayth
06/23/21 1:34:31 PM
#253:


hockeybub89 posted...
There is nothing wrong with shaming people for opinions. Opinions are choices.
then again calling people bigoted for not wanting to date a trans-person is just an opinion
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Giant_Aspirin
06/23/21 1:35:19 PM
#254:


if the person is pre-op and doesn't have your preferred genitalia that seems valid.

also if you insist on having biological children of your own, that seems like a valid reason to exclude trans people, but this should mean you exclude infertile cis people as well.

however, if you were attracted to someone in every way (physically -- including genitals, mentally) until you find out the person is trans, that seems problematic.

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hockeybub89
06/23/21 1:36:07 PM
#255:


Bass_X0 posted...
hetero men dont want their sexual partner to have or previously had a penis. Thats what being heterosexual is.
Straight men are attracted to women. Therefore, you are saying they are men.

Someone better let any straight men dating trans women that they actually are attracted to penis.

By this argument, you yourself are gay if you ever accidentally got aroused by the sight of a trans woman. Ball don't lie.

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hockeybub89
06/23/21 1:37:39 PM
#256:


ROOTFayth posted...
then again calling people bigoted for not wanting to date a trans-person is just an opinion
Yes? Why are you so fragile with your opinions?

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ROOTFayth
06/23/21 1:39:20 PM
#257:


hockeybub89 posted...
Yes?
fair, I'm good with it then we'll just agree to disagree about said opinion
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Bass_X0
06/23/21 1:39:53 PM
#258:


hockeybub89 posted...
Straight men are attracted to women. Therefore, you are saying they are men.

Someone better let any straight men dating trans women that they actually are attracted to penis.

By this argument, you yourself are gay if you ever accidentally got aroused by the sight of a trans woman. Ball don't lie.

then by all means, have sex with another penis as much as you want. Its clearly what *you* are into.


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deoxxys
06/23/21 1:52:52 PM
#260:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
however, if you were attracted to someone in every way (physically -- including genitals, mentally) until you find out the person is trans, that seems problematic.
Unless, you know you try and get into bed with them. You are ready for the deed but you just cant stop thinking about how they used to have a penis and yours goes limp. You lean back and they ask if somethings wrong and while you're contemplating this, you have the realization that their legs connect to their torso as straight as action figure. Sudden dread hits, you think maybe this was a mistake and you are meant for this.

That doesnt really sound fair to the transwoman and may even worsen their gender dysphoria, I am certainly not going to be that person when I know its a turnoff for me.

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epik_fail1
06/23/21 1:58:28 PM
#261:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
if the person is pre-op and doesn't have your preferred genitalia that seems valid.

also if you insist on having biological children of your own, that seems like a valid reason to exclude trans people, but this should mean you exclude infertile cis people as well.

however, if you were attracted to someone in every way (physically -- including genitals, mentally) until you find out the person is trans, that seems problematic.


I am not saying this in a hurtful way, but I don't think a trans dick feels the same as a cis dick.
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Ardbert
06/23/21 1:59:33 PM
#262:


deoxxys posted...
Unless, you know you try and get into bed with them. You are ready for the deed but you just cant stop thinking about how they used to have a penis and yours goes limp. You lean back and they ask if somethings wrong and while you're contemplating this, you have the realization that their legs connect to their torso as straight as action figure. Sudden dread hits, you think maybe this was a mistake and you are meant for this.

That doesnt really sound fair to the transwoman and may even worsen their gender dysphoria, I am certainly not going to be that person when I know its a turnoff for me.

I'm a man and my legs dont connect straight to my torso. :v That sounds like a "you're too skinny" problem, not a trans vs cis issue. Get you a partner with something to hold on to.
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DarthWendy
06/23/21 2:02:12 PM
#263:


Lol its this topic again

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deoxxys
06/23/21 2:03:34 PM
#264:


Ardbert posted...
I'm a man and my legs dont connect straight to my torso. :v That sounds like a "you're too skinny" problem, not a trans vs cis issue. Get you a partner with something to hold on to.
I mean but men in general arent going to have wider hip bones or the appropriate spacing for spitting out a baby.

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hockeybub89
06/23/21 2:05:32 PM
#265:


Bass_X0 posted...
then by all means, have sex with another penis as much as you want. Its clearly what *you* are into.
I just don't know why you have to be so disgustingly hateful towards trans women and the straight men they fall in love with. A gay man would fuck a man with a penis, not women that might occasionally include women that formerly had penises.

And I'm actually disgusted by the penis, thank you very much, but people are so much more than their genitalia.

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The Trent
06/23/21 2:06:32 PM
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MutantJohn
06/23/21 2:09:08 PM
#267:


https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/ikq86p/how_do_you_combat_the_smell_of_a_neovagina/

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WashYourHands
06/23/21 2:11:20 PM
#268:


The Trent posted...
Welcome back

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Ardbert
06/23/21 2:13:38 PM
#269:


MutantJohn posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/ikq86p/how_do_you_combat_the_smell_of_a_neovagina/

(_;)

Honestly, I would just keep the dick if I were trans. That sounds horrifying.
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E_S_M_Z
06/23/21 2:28:42 PM
#270:


WashYourHands posted...
Welcome back

I got really confused when I saw the post, after his stint in purgatory I'm just not used to seeing those outside of topics specifically about him...

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MrMimeTime
06/23/21 2:31:30 PM
#271:


hockeybub89 posted...
Preferences are not requirements. No one has to stay with anybody, but a lot of people are in for disappointment if they only want a partner who matches some perfect template. All human relationships require sacrifice.

Oh well. No one is going to tell a stranger about their bipolar depression or past traumas. Intimate discussions require trust.

Perfect template is not the same as wanting to have biological kids. Get outta here with that disingenuous take.

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whitelytning
06/23/21 2:48:22 PM
#272:


MrMimeTime posted...
Perfect template is not the same as wanting to have biological kids. Get outta here with that disingenuous take.

Seems like you have to like what he says you have to like or you will be called a bigot or transphobic.

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hockeybub89
06/23/21 2:50:06 PM
#273:


whitelytning posted...
Seems like you have to like what he says you have to like or you will be called a bigot or transphobic.
But I mean that literally is being transphobic. I'd own it if I were a transphobe. Stop being fragile.

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hockeybub89
06/23/21 2:55:47 PM
#275:


Maybe you should stop worrying about me calling people names and start worrying about the imminent destruction of freedom and bodily autonomy. No one gonna have time to take off from suffering to care about your dating preferences.

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Naysaspace
06/23/21 2:57:55 PM
#276:


Dig up, stupid
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MrMimeTime
06/23/21 3:06:41 PM
#277:


hockeybub89 posted...
Maybe you should stop worrying about me calling people names and start worrying about the imminent destruction of freedom and bodily autonomy. No one gonna have time to take off from suffering to care about your dating preferences.

What?

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Nemu
06/23/21 3:08:46 PM
#278:


I am so confused why people want to die on the hill of labeling everything in regards to non-attraction to trans people as phobia. It's literally doing nothing but hurting your argument. Presentation of the argument is literally half the battle, which is why evangelical nutjobs are so convincing to their sheep.
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hockeybub89
06/23/21 3:17:59 PM
#280:


Nemu posted...
I am so confused why people want to die on the hill of labeling everything in regards to non-attraction to trans people as phobia. It's literally doing nothing but hurting your argument. Presentation of the argument is literally half the battle, which is why evangelical nutjobs are so convincing to their sheep.
If idiots care about presentation, then oh well. Fuck anyone that stupid.

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Medussa
06/23/21 3:20:38 PM
#282:


Conflict posted...
The general point is that there are valid reasons to not date transgender people,

the entire argument boils down to a giant (and intentional?) misunderstanding between attraction and compatibility. at least, from most of those who are arguing in good faith.

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ROOTFayth
06/23/21 3:21:08 PM
#283:


JustMyOpinion posted...
Gunpla does exactly that though. Compared them to literal Nazis.
then again she isnt the most sane person on this board Id guess
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garan
06/23/21 3:25:05 PM
#285:


Conflict posted...
No it's definitely not transphobic to prefer dating a cisgender person because you want biological kids


This fits for me because having kids of my own is one of the only reasons I'm still tempted to date.
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hockeybub89
06/23/21 3:28:52 PM
#286:


I admit that I'm just not wired the same as everyone. I guess I am bisexual or maybe really pansexual because I just cannot see why gentials or their former existence matter. There's just people that may or may not make you happy. I have no innate desire for reproduction. Straight/gay still has nothing to do with finding attraction to trans people though. If a man is born straight and has only been attracted to men, he's not suddenly gay because he got a boner for a trans woman. Cis and trans men still do nothing for him. He is attracted to the feminine form, not chromosomes.

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QueenCarly
06/23/21 3:31:34 PM
#287:


ROOTFayth posted...
then again she isnt the most sane person on this board Id guess

Theyre perfectly sane. But, they're a trans woman who won't back down when facing blatant transphobic bullshit so they're viewed as "insane and aggressive and rude." Just more cissexism at work

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Smackems
06/23/21 3:33:56 PM
#288:


Imagine giving this much of a shit who people are or aren't attracted to. God I can't imagine a worse hell than having that question eating at my brain

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ROOTFayth
06/23/21 3:35:57 PM
#290:


QueenCarly posted...
Theyre perfectly sane. But, they're a trans woman who won't back down when facing blatant transphobic bullshit so they're viewed as "insane and aggressive and rude." Just more cissexism at work
agree to disagree, saying stuff like I get more pussy than any of you is not just not backing down, its lame and insecure and she often portrays this through her posts

shes not only this aggressive in threads about transgenders fwiw, she also randomly posted a pic of her (new?) tits unwarranted, thats just sad
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epik_fail1
06/23/21 3:39:41 PM
#291:


ROOTFayth posted...

agree to disagree, saying stuff like I get more pussy than any of you is not just not backing down, its lame and insecure and she often portrays this through her posts

shes not only this aggressive in threads about transgenders fwiw, she also randomly posted a pic of her (new?) tits unwarranted, thats just sad


I don't even understand why she brags about it. I am gay and I wish I could go back in time and reduce the number of people I had sex with. So much emotional pain came from it. I am in a monogamous relationship since 3 years and I am still healing from getting ghosted, idiots telling me they are single to know they cheated their boyfriend, morons who catfished with fake/outdated pictures.
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Ardbert
06/23/21 3:41:16 PM
#292:


in her defense, new tits cost a lot of money so I don't blame her for showing them off. She could stand to be less aggressive though.
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ROOTFayth
06/23/21 3:45:39 PM
#293:


epik_fail1 posted...
I don't even understand why she brags about it. I am gay and I wish I could go back in time and reduce the number of people I had sex with. So much emotional pain came from it. I am in a monogamous relationship since 3 years and I am still healing from getting ghosted, idiots telling me they are single to know they cheated their boyfriend, morons who catfished with fake/outdated pictures.
Im guessing shes just pretty young and pretty new to the whole having sex thing and sees it as some sort of achievement, it should pass, hopefully

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Dreepapult
06/23/21 4:18:12 PM
#294:




Ya. Totally wouldn't know that wasn't a cis woman. Yup

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jon1012
06/23/21 4:19:07 PM
#295:


The Trent posted...

sooo happy you're back

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Ardbert
06/23/21 4:29:13 PM
#296:


Dreepapult posted...


Ya. Totally wouldn't know that wasn't a cis woman. Yup

I mean, I've seen bio women that look like that in Ohio. Go to any gas station in Appalachia and you'll find a few.
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Medussa
06/23/21 4:30:36 PM
#297:


Dreepapult posted...


congrats, you've managed to make the worst post so far

uness that's you.


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WashYourHands
06/23/21 4:35:22 PM
#298:


Dreepapult posted...


Ya. Totally wouldn't know that wasn't a cis woman. Yup
You arent helping like you think you are

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Dreepapult
06/23/21 4:37:44 PM
#299:


Eh, i do what i want lol

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Ardbert
06/23/21 4:38:49 PM
#300:


Dreepapult posted...
Eh, i do what i want lol

Does your mom know you're posting pics of her though?
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MutantJohn
06/23/21 4:54:00 PM
#301:


Why don't we just call it what it really is, shallow. It's not transphobic or bigoted, it's just shallow.

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