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Bass_X0
06/22/21 3:00:15 PM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9711437/Washington-Post-condemned-video-urging-Americans-set-white-accountability-groups.html

Washington Post is condemned for video urging Americans to set up 'white accountability groups' and force themselves into 'a period of deep shame' over their skin color
The video is the latest in a series called The New Normal hosted by Nicole Ellis
It aired on Friday, and suggests white people segregate themselves into groups to discuss how white people have harmed people of color over history
One expert on the episode, Resmaa Manakem, suggests people take part in these groups for years before they can confront people of color
Trauma therapist Ilyse Kennedy said she took part in one such group and said it was important for white people to feel 'a period of deep shame'
The episode faced backlash, with one saying the suggestions were akin to a 'pseudoreligious movement' and constituted 'neoracism'

The Washington Post has been branded 'neoracist' and accused of promoting a 'pseudoreligious movement' after the airing of a controversial video declaring people should feel 'shame for being white' and urging readers to form 'white accountability groups'.
The latest episode of the series, hosted by Nicole Ellis and called the New Normal, was released on Friday and discussed how white people can combat white supremacy.
'An antiracist culture does not exist among white people,' trauma specialist and author Resmaa Menakem says when introducing the concept. 'White people need to start getting together specifically around race.'

The video series was launched last spring, originally to discuss the coronavirus pandemic but shifted to conversations about race after the death of George Floyd.

He adds that the groups should meet and discuss for up to five years, until, 'you end up with a community that is aligned with each other.'
Rebecca Toporek, who is a professor in the Department of Counseling at San Francisco State University agreed with the concept, saying that such groups, 'are really helpful in terms of having a place to process, having a group of people whose responsibility it is to call me on things, or to challenge me.'

Ellis then speaks to trauma therapist Ilyse Kennedy, who said she had been taking part in such a group, and said that it was important that members experience a, 'period of deep shame for being white and for acknowledging the harm that our ancestors have caused,' adding, 'we can't ask people of color to hold our hand.'
Toporek said such measures might be necessary to separate oneself from white supremacy.

'Part of the structure of racism... is to keep us from recognizing that racism is part of our daily lives.' she said. 'So it's a longer term process of looking at your understanding of yourself in the world, both historically but also contextually. Also the family you live in, the community you live in, and what role whiteness plays in that.'
Jesse Singal questioned the concepts promoted on the episode and likened them to a cult, tweeting, 'This is a very strange pseudoreligious movement that is likely to do more harm than good.'
'I'm fighting against race supremacy; the Washington Post wants to install it everywhere,' tweeted Christopher Rufo, a senior fellow for the Manhattan Institute.
Rufo, one of the most famous opponents of critical race theory in the US, added: 'The game is that they want to create an essentialized racial category ("whiteness"), load it with negative connotations, then impose it on individuals through guilt, shame, and school indoctrination. This approach is reductive, manipulative, and malicious. Don't fall for it.'

User @AGHamilton29 called the episode a: 'A 5 minute video propagating ignorant neoracist nonsense. It's really astonishing the extent to which this stuff is becoming mainstream and normalized, especially by the press.'
Another user replied that: 'It's like a bizarre new religion. They have their own language, their idea of original sins (whiteness), and seeking redemption through "doing the work" to understand race issues. It's a disconnect from the reality 99% of Americans live in.'
Discussions of race and 'anti-racism' efforts to actively tackle discrimination have hogged the headlines in recent months, and sparked fierce discussions between supporters and opponents.
Those who support critical race theory and anti-racism teachings say they are necessary to highlight the depth of racism faced by black Americans in almost every aspect of their life.
Opponents say the theories are too unequivocal, offer few solutions, and serve only to divide people further.



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Doom_Art
06/22/21 3:00:45 PM
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Damn straight

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skermac
06/22/21 3:01:29 PM
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No one can choose their skin color so no one should be ashamed no matter what color they are

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AlisLandale
06/22/21 3:02:23 PM
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I always feel deep shame, so sure, whats one more reason?

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CADE FOSTER
06/22/21 3:02:27 PM
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lol
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Smackems
06/22/21 3:02:34 PM
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Yeah, nah. I ain't ashamed of shit

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GreatGoomba
06/22/21 3:02:47 PM
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I flagellate myself daily

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thronedfire2
06/22/21 3:04:33 PM
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I am shamed, I cant get a tan at all :(

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Hop103
06/22/21 3:05:25 PM
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Only racists would say that anyone should be ashamed of their skin color.
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unnamedsoldier
06/22/21 3:05:36 PM
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and the left wonders why they aren't popular.
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Bad_Mojo
06/22/21 3:05:55 PM
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Horrible take. This isn't how you prevent future hate, only pushes it in a new direction.

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PC-Builder_Pony
06/22/21 3:06:02 PM
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Yikes wtf

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Guide
06/22/21 3:06:42 PM
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Trauma therapist Ilyse Kennedy said she took part in one such group and said it was important for white people to feel 'a period of deep shame'

This is absolutely insane. It's just plain racism.

Those who support critical race theory and anti-racism teachings say they are necessary

Says fucking who?

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ThePrinceFish
06/22/21 3:06:53 PM
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the neoracist left

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Guide
06/22/21 3:07:08 PM
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unnamedsoldier posted...
and the left wonders why they aren't popular.

They are, by definition, more popular

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IShall_Run_Amok
06/22/21 3:07:26 PM
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I'm ashamed that white supremacists have my skin color. I never agreed to this shit.

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Bad_Mojo
06/22/21 3:08:02 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
One expert on the episode, Resmaa Manakem, suggests people take part in these groups for years before they can confront people of color

Wait, what? lol, this has to be a meme, right?

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BakonBitz
06/22/21 3:10:20 PM
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This just doesn't seem right. I'm well aware of the things white people have done to minorities in the past, and it's terrible, but I am not going to be shamed for being born white. I'd rather stand up and promote change.

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nothanks1
06/22/21 3:11:12 PM
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Especially the Irish!
Damn those notorious racists for erm...
What was it?
Fleeing Ireland because of an attempted genocide?
/s

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Bad_Mojo
06/22/21 3:13:54 PM
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Also, and I could be wrong here, but I don't think this is Critical Race Theory, so don't dump this racist nonsense into that. CRT has some merit, from what little I understand of it

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Ardbert
06/22/21 3:14:28 PM
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why should people be ashamed of something they didn't even do?
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unnamedsoldier
06/22/21 3:15:05 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
white ppl get so up in arms when literally anyone says anything even close to negative about their skin color.

i'm not saying white ppl should be discriminated against because of their skin, but it is time they accepted that it isn't the best. they should feel some shame.

People get up in arms about racism? Who knew
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GreatGoomba
06/22/21 3:15:19 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
but it is time they accepted that it isn't the best.
So you're implying a particular skin color is "the best"? Sounds familiar

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monkmith
06/22/21 3:16:35 PM
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Ardbert posted...
why should people be ashamed of something they didn't even do?
ask a catholic, they pioneered that shit.

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BakonBitz
06/22/21 3:16:38 PM
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GreatGoomba posted...
So you're implying a particular skin color is "the best"? Sounds familiar
Hopefully he means that people of all skin colors are equal. Otherwise we're back at square one.

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ThePrinceFish
06/22/21 3:16:40 PM
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"I'm not saying that we should discriminate against white people but yeah they should be ashamed of their skin color"

Gee I wonder if that weak hedge is going to save that account

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Dakimakura
06/22/21 3:17:49 PM
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GreatGoomba posted...
So you're implying a particular skin color is "the best"? Sounds familiar

No, I am implying that by not being able to accept criticism of your skin color that you inherently saying that it is the best. Just show some shame for once and be equal instead of always acting superior.


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LeoRavus
06/22/21 3:18:01 PM
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All races have something to be ashamed of. Look at the horrendous shit that happens in Africa, what the Japanese did to the Chinese, what Native Americans did to other tribes. No one's innocent.

Or you could like, not live in the past?


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Temporal
06/22/21 3:18:43 PM
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clownworld

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Ardbert
06/22/21 3:19:32 PM
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if you replaced "white" with literally any other ethnic group, this would be considered hate speech. :v
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Bad_Mojo
06/22/21 3:19:40 PM
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Ardbert posted...
why should people be ashamed of something they didn't even do?

Exactly

CRT = People need to be aware that being a certain race lets you have an easier life in certain areas. Just by existing you get an upper hand.

Opinion in OP - If you're born a certain race you're a pile of shit and should feel ashamed. I think this is the same reason why Women get so oppressed for so long - got to feel shame for eating that apple.

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Heavy_D_Forever
06/22/21 3:20:10 PM
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Ardbert posted...
if you replaced "white" with literally any other ethnic group, this would be considered hate speech. :v
Only to normal people. Crazy people actually believe this nonsense.

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codey
06/22/21 3:20:32 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
No, I am implying that by not being able to accept criticism of your skin color that you inherently saying that it is the best. Just show some shame for once and be equal instead of always acting superior.

Accepting does not have to equal feeling shame, you know.

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UnholyMudcrab
06/22/21 3:20:49 PM
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A Daily Mail link means a snarky comment and then an immediate topic list
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
06/22/21 3:20:52 PM
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Fuck this racist bullshit and anyone who supports this blatant hate.

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Ardbert
06/22/21 3:21:37 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
Exactly

CRT = People need to be aware that being a certain race lets you have an easier life in certain areas. Just by existing you get an upper hand.

Opinion in OP - If you're born a certain race you're a pile of shit and should feel ashamed. I think this is the same reason why Women get so oppressed for so long - got to feel shame for eating that apple.

Yea, there is a huge difference between CRT and what this article is pushing. There's a difference between acknowledging history and the biases in our systems and telling people "you should be ashamed of your existence because of your skin color." That's like, literal racism. You've hit the other end of the horseshoe.
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CalosiaTana
06/22/21 3:22:25 PM
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Anyone who buys into this brain damaged garbage can go fuck themselves.

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iPhone_7
06/22/21 3:22:38 PM
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Being ashamed of your white skin is required to truly check your white privilege.

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SSJPurple
06/22/21 3:23:01 PM
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You shouldnt blame people today for the sins of their ancestors.

Learning history is very important, but making people ashamed of something they cant control and had nothing to do with isnt cool

Please call out racism when you see it, as it is alive and well however not all whites are Alt Right pricks.

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Solid Snake07
06/22/21 3:24:10 PM
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I'm good, thanks though

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Dakimakura
06/22/21 3:24:51 PM
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codey posted...
Accepting does not have to equal feeling shame, you know.

I think everyone is missing the point. It isn't about feeling bad about what you are, it is about taking accountability for yourself and being able to accept criticism.

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Pepys Monster
06/22/21 3:26:34 PM
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The regressive left sets back race relations once again.

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Goatsensation
06/22/21 3:27:30 PM
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Dailymail talking about shame lol

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Gamerguymass
06/22/21 3:28:04 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
You shouldnt blame people today for the sins of their ancestors.

Learning history is very important, but making people ashamed of something they cant control and had nothing to do with isnt cool

Please call out racism when you see it, as it is alive and well however not all whites are Alt Right pricks.

It's not even close to all white people either. A huge chunk if white people's ancestors didn't even come over here until after the Civil War. They were then immediately discriminated against, not even being considered white, because they weren't English Protestants. So yeah, these types of people can get bent. It's stupid shit like this that is the reason why the GOP is still so popular.

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LostForest
06/22/21 3:30:20 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
taking accountability for yourself and being able to accept criticism.

Accountability for what? Being born a certain race?

Having to feel ashamed and accountable for simply existing is literally the kind of racist horse shit that we've been fighting decades to eliminate.

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codey
06/22/21 3:30:31 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
I think everyone is missing the point. It isn't about feeling bad about what you are, it is about taking accountability for yourself and being able to accept criticism.

Which isn't shame.

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Zikten
06/22/21 3:32:18 PM
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Fuck "Sins of the father" bullshit. I've always hated it. I'm mad what people have done in rhe past and that some of them could have been my ancestors. But no, I don't feel shame for it. I am all for making everyone equal though. I'm even open to stuff like the government paying money to certain minorities to make up for what we did

But I am not going to go to therapy sessions and cry about whwt my ancestors did. I'd rather get shit done and actually fix the world
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06/22/21 3:33:45 PM
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We really need to eliminate any notion that being racist against white people is impossible or ok. Racism is racism, and all racism is bad, no matter what race its against. There is a decent amount of people that actually think its impossible to be racist against white people.

It's interesting too as we get farther and farther away from slavery, and things that our ancestors did gets farther and farther in the distant past. It's like forever calling Germans nazis because of what they did to the Jews. I'm Jewish, and I don't blame Germans for the Holocaust because most of them were not even alive when it happened and had no control over it.

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R1masher
06/22/21 3:41:45 PM
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Im still not putting my shopping cart back

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Bass_X0
06/22/21 3:42:53 PM
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R1masher posted...
Im still not putting my shopping cart back

hope you like your sticker, lazybones.

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