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and there it is the persecution complex

"minorties being treated fairly means straite white men are getting treated unfair"

no no you are not at all not even close

there are no laws targeting you

people using social media to expose a person for things they say and do is not a bad thing

dont say or do racist shit and no one will call you racist

dont say or do homophobic shit and no one will call you homophobic

its that simple

if you vote for a person you know is going to hurt others then you support those people getting hurt

if you vote for a person who openly praises dictators and wants to turn america in to a dictatorship you support turning america into a dictatorship

if you vote for a president who had peacefull protestors gased just so he coudl trespass on private property for a photo op well then you support that

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BeantownHero posted...

No one is obligated to acknowledge the humanity of those who vote to curb the rights of minorites, women and the LGBTQ community. Fuck that.

And this is EXACTLY the problem. This mindset.

Ask yourself this:
Which is more important? Hating racists or reducing racism? Because I promise you, the kind of approach you are taking puts those two options at odds.

Ibram x Kendi, one of the leaders of the CRT movement defined the world as "racist" and "anti-racist" and what do you know? The only people who are "anti-racist" are people who are sycophants for his exact ideology.

This by definition makes more racists. If you stack the deck so that it's damn near impossible not to be airquotes "racist" then congrats you just got yourself a whole bunch more racists. And then if you take your dumbass stance of rejecting the humanity of every airquotes "racist"

THAT'S HOW you get Trump, all all the lives he cost, and all the nonsense congressional republicans can do to take money from the poor and give it to the rich. By putting your smugness as a higher value than literally everything else.

Your feeling of superiority over "the deplorables" is not worth losing the world over. And you are a selfish moron if you think otherwise.

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oh by the way what do you call all those people who want to get comics movies games ect canceled for daring to have a none white male lead

right now right wingers are throwing a tantrum over the new static shock comic because virgil supports BLM

they are saying its to political showing their raw ignorance of the character of static who was always doing this

right wingers love to try and get any left wing media canceled

but notice no one on the left of importance trying to get all those christian propaganda films canceled

no one tried to get tucker carlsons school shooting fetish movie canceled

we just openly mock those films

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joe40001 posted...

And this is EXACTLY the problem. This mindset.

Ask yourself this:
Which is more important? Hating racists or reducing racism? Because I promise you, the kind of approach you are taking puts those two options at odds.

Ibram x Kendi, one of the leaders of the CRT movement defined the world as "racist" and "anti-racist" and what do you know? The only people who are "anti-racist" are people who are sycophants for his exact ideology.

This by definition makes more racists. If you stack the deck so that it's damn near impossible not to be airquotes "racist" then congrats you just got yourself a whole bunch more racists. And then if you take your dumbass stance of rejecting the humanity of every airquotes "racist"

THAT'S HOW you get Trump, all all the lives he cost, and all the nonsense congressional republicans can do to take money from the poor and give it to the rich. By putting your smugness as a higher value than literally everything else.

Your feeling of superiority over "the deplorables" is not worth losing the world over. And you are a selfish moron if you think otherwise.

yes this worked so well after the civil war when we did not punish them

let them pass racist laws that made life worse for black people to this day

yes dont ever punish people for hurting minorities

but if that minority commits a crime they need to be punished harshly

i was bullied in school so badly i had to drop out at age 14 i still have night terrors to this day im 34 almost 35

had a teacher openly say i should be raped strait in class and the students laughed

and you think i should sti down and sing camp fire songs with these people because they are people to

they have no regrets for how they treated me still have those same views

but no my trauma dont matter to you just how bad they might feel if they get called out on the awful things they did


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AceMos posted...

and there it is the persecution complex

"minorties being treated fairly means straite white men are getting treated unfair"

no no you are not at all not even close

there are no laws targeting you

people using social media to expose a person for things they say and do is not a bad thing

dont say or do racist shit and no one will call you racist

dont say or do homophobic shit and no one will call you homophobic

its that simple

if you vote for a person you know is going to hurt others then you support those people getting hurt

if you vote for a person who openly praises dictators and wants to turn america in to a dictatorship you support turning america into a dictatorship

if you vote for a president who had peacefull protestors gased just so he coudl trespass on private property for a photo op well then you support that

You are still playing the game.

I don't give a flying fuck if you think your dystopian authoritarian social policing "only takes about the bad people", you are wrong, and anybody with sense can see it has gone far far far far far far too far.

You are burning the house down and then WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINING that everything getting burnt "had it coming". Fuck off, fuck that, fuck no.

Do you want to cancel people? Or do you want medicare for all? Because it sure as shit seems like your priority is sacrificing votes and good will that would go to the later in the name of the smug self satisfaction you get for the former.

Fuck that entitled as mindset. Save the world and stop prioritizing your self-righteous ignorance over saving human lives. Your part in this divisive us vs them game is what got Trump elected, you might as well as cast 100s of Trumps vote yourself, because it's the loud, hateful, divisive people like you than drew 100s of people to the polls to vote for Trump just so they all could say their little "fuck you" to your mindset.

I am 100% done humoring people like you. Everybody can see just how petty and ignorant your mindset is.

And that wouldn't be that bad, if it weren't for the fact that it's that very "hate my neighbor" mindset that literally causes the country to resist all the goals you claim to be for.

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Please don't respond to Joe.

Just, please, please, don't. I won't asking anything else if you can just do that. For your own sake, and everyone else's. Never. Respond. To. Joe.

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AceMos posted...

oh by the way what do you call all those people who want to get comics movies games ect canceled for daring to have a none white male lead

right now right wingers are throwing a tantrum over the new static shock comic because virgil supports BLM

they are saying its to political showing their raw ignorance of the character of static who was always doing this

right wingers love to try and get any left wing media canceled

but notice no one on the left of importance trying to get all those christian propaganda films canceled

no one tried to get tucker carlsons school shooting fetish movie canceled

we just openly mock those films

But MOOOOOOOOOOOOM billy is meaner, he started it.

Let me say it crystal clear:
Somebody else being shitty, is not a good justification for you to be shitty.

You, or at least the hivemind mainstream liberals you vomit propoganda for are being very very shitty. You are being part of the problem by insisting this is a zero sum us vs them shittiness-off.

Fuck that, fuck that, fuck that.

In the name of saving this country and this world, you need to stop being shitty right now. And you need to stop defending others being shitty too.

Acknowledge the humanity of your fucking fellow man, it's not that hard. Stop prioritizing your self-righteousness over actually solving problems.

It's that damn simple.

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yep still blaming minorities

"just suffer for the greater good" is legit what you just fucking told me

you legit think straite white men should be above the law that is your entire stance

a straite white man kills a gay man cus "gay panic" they should get a slap on the wrist

parents sned their gay child to gay conversion therapy the parents should not get called out for it

nope we have to ignore every bit of bigotry we see ust so people like you feel better and will maybe vote democrate

the people who recorded george floyds murder they should have just looked away in your fantasy world

@joe40001

and yes that is exactly what you are saying

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You wonder why people still vote republican when things like social safety nets, and medicare for all and tons of liberal policies poll WAAAAY over 50%? It's because people like you want to turn it all back to a culture war.

"I vote against my own interests because minorities, women and the LGBTQ community expose hatred and fight for equality just a bit too much for my liking"

I'd rather go down fighter then aqcuise to those who would make people like me a second class via the ballot box if given the chance


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Funkydog posted...

Please don't respond to Joe.

Just, please, please, don't. I won't asking anything else if you can just do that. For your own sake, and everyone else's. Never. Respond. To. Joe.

oh he has a reputation i did not know that ok ill stop i thought maybe he was ad rive by troll which can be fun to watch twist into nots

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Funkydog posted...

Please don't respond to Joe.

Just, please, please, don't. I won't asking anything else if you can just do that. For your own sake, and everyone else's. Never. Respond. To. Joe.

What do you find so threatening about what I say?

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AceMos posted...

oh he has a reputation i did not know that ok ill stop i thought maybe he was ad rive by troll which can be fun to watch twist into nots

He effectively is, but he it does it whenever possible in any topic he can. He doesn't want to debate, but just spew nonsense and waste your time.

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AceMos posted...

yep still blaming minorities

"just suffer for the greater good" is legit what you just fucking told me

you legit think straite white men should be above the law that is your entire stance

a straite white man kills a gay man cus "gay panic" they should get a slap on the wrist

parents sned their gay child to gay conversion therapy the parents should not get called out for it

nope we have to ignore every bit of bigotry we see ust so people like you feel better and will maybe vote democrate

the people who recorded george floyds murder they should have just looked away in your fantasy world

@joe40001

and yes that is exactly what you are saying

It's not though, it's telling that you think you get to tell me what I think.

It's telling that you are so damn scared of recognizing the humanity of your fellow man that you'd rather doom this country.

I'm not going to play your game anymore.

You. Are. Wrong.

Look in your soul, you are prioritizing self-righteousness for fixing problems. You are alienating all the voters you need to actually make change.

When you make everybody your enemy you ruin your chances to have friends. If you cared about making positive changes you'd recognize that.

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ok yea im putting him on ignore this is getting old free advice for future trolls

try to actually adress points brought up it makes it more fun for the other person

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BeantownHero posted...

"I vote against my own interests because minorities, women and the LGBTQ community expose hatred and fight for equality just a bit too much for my liking"

I'd rather go down fighter then aqcuise to those who would make people like me a second class via the ballot box if given the chance

"I'm a fighter" he says as he stabs himself over and over "and I'm going to go down a fighter"

You are giving all the power to your enemies, defining most of the world as your enemy and then confused as to why nothing you want is happening.

Here's what's different about me that you: I'd rather get Medicare for all than feel superior to somebody.

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AceMos posted...

ok yea im putting him on ignore this is getting old free advice for future trolls

try to actually adress points brought up it makes it more fun for the other person

It is pathetic that you are so lost that you think common sense is trolling.

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"You can have Medicare if you just roll over and accept MAGAs social/racial policy agendas and keep your mouth shut while they trash you publicly"

Yeah, no

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BeantownHero posted...

"You can have Medicare if you just roll over and accept MAGAs social/racial policy agendas and keep your mouth shut while they trash you publicly"

Yeah, no

No, more like "You can have medicare if you acknowledge the humanity of republicans, and don't call almost everybody racist."

For me that's an easy "Hell yeah, deal!"

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"Dont call the group racist that responsed to a year long civil rights protest with "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" and tried to have BLM labeled a terrorist organization, or they may get mad and vote against things they want!"

They literally tried to have the votes of black brown people in battleground states in the last election thrown out because they deemed them "illegitimate", but you somehow how think bending over to these people and keeping quiet in the face of their rhetoric and actions is somehow for the greater good? this is Duncan tier logic

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BeantownHero posted...

"Dont call the group racist that responsed to a year long civil rights protest with "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" and tried to have BLM labeled a terrorist organization, or they may get mad and vote against things they want!"

They literally tried to have the votes of black brown people in battleground states in the last election thrown out because they deemed them "illegitimate", but you somehow how think bending over to these people and keeping quiet in the face of their rhetoric and actions is somehow for the greater good? this is Duncan tier logic

Half the country said "when the looting starts, the shooting starts"? Half the country wanted votes of black and brown people thrown out?

There is no coherent way to judge all republican voters by the worst of republicans while simultaneously saying republicans are wrong to do that back to democrats.

You are playing the division game, it's that game that's destroying the country. You are throwing so many babies out with the bathwater and then acting confused why those babies are pissed.

If it is beyond your capacity to recognize the humanity in all of them, at the bare minimum recognize the humanity in most of them.

Somebody votes to limit voting access to minorities? Fine give up on them if you must. Somebody votes "Republican" to say "I care about human rights but fuck this woke bullshit", if you have any sense you'll make that person an ally and not an enemy.

We will not get people to get compassionate policies though if most liberals are focused on a throwing a temper tantrum at anybody who isn't 100% on their side.

Treat most americans as humans, it's literally the bare minimum you can do to a person you want to have as an ally.

You will never persuade a single person you dehumanize, and you embolden them to fight against you.

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You ever notice how it's never Republicans that have to stop playing "the division game"?

Hmm, thinkyemoji.

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Donald Trump recieved 70+ million votes and has consistently polled as one of the front runners for the Republican nomination in 2024

couple that in with conservatives who dont vote, yet support the GOP(and by extension, MAGA) politically and socially and you can miss me with the "not all Republicans/conservatives" nonsense

There's one group cutting off their nose to spite their face, and it ain't the one who wont stay silent in the face of voter suppression, attempts to make the LGBTQ community second class citizens, deny female bodily autonomy and demonize black and brown people who come here from other countries.


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CyricZ posted...

You ever notice how it's never Republicans that have to stop playing "the division game"?

Hmm, thinkyemoji.

If there was a single republican here arguing for division I'd tell them to stop too.

You are still playing the game, you are still turning are very future into a contest for who has the most shittiness points, and that is the problem.

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CyricZ posted...

You ever notice how it's never Republicans that have to stop playing "the division game"?

Hmm, thinkyemoji.

Joe, explain this PLEASE

joe40001 posted...

There is no coherent way to judge all republican voters by the worst of republicans while simultaneously saying republicans are wrong to do that back to democrats.

You called them "the fuck you party"

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joe40001 posted...

Ask yourself this:
Which is more important? Hating racists or reducing racism? Because I promise you, the kind of approach you are taking puts those two options at odds.

I'd be inclined to say "reducing racism", but I think pointing out racism and shaming people who are going out of their way to be bigoted is a more effective way of reducing racism than appeasing the right and playing softball with them. You either challenge them and risk alienating them, or you coddle them and their stance and risk legitimising what they were saying in the first place.

You see it time and time again with right wing figures who go "debate me, debate me" in response to their horseshit, where their "debate" is throwing out as much unsubstantiated horseshit as they can to get their opponent arguing in circles - meanwhile, the people who are there for them or who are otherwise undecided take what they're saying at face value and run with it. They try and set the rules, and then they try to run the game - because they prey on respectability politics to hold their opponents to standards they'll never meet to get as much of their disingenuous horseshit in front of as many eyes as possible.

A leftist will say "eat the rich" and the right will go into a tizzy about how that promotes radical political violence and how unacceptable it is, but when a right winger argues thst the Unite the Right rally was a legitimate expression of concern for historical preservation, or that the January Capitol insurrection wasn't a big deal and that we should follow through on their concerns - the right will continue to rebuke the backlash from the left who saw both incidents as politically motivated violent demonstrations for the far right to normalise themselves in the mainstream, and continue to paint leftist demonstrations as the most politically radical threat faced by the nation.

The right is never going to respect or tolerate the left based on how well they're treated, they're just going to charge in full steam ahead to get what they want - as we've seen time and time again. You can look at any instance of a far right group of people being appeased or coddled, and all it has ever done is embolden them to create less and less equal policy and make wilder and more unsubstantiated claims to further normalise their position. Appeasement doesn't work.

When you have someone who, ironically or not, is making racially insensitive comments and somebody tells them how fucked up and wrong it is, and that person then argues about how it's not insensitive and we should define the definition of racially insensitive and dismiss the accounts of people who find it demeaning and cruel - the only person who's going to win that argument is the right winger pushing for it, because even addressing it as a legitimate point is enough for them. It puts it out into the ether and they can point to it and to "see? it exists!" to a crowd of people who already want that to be the case and who'll eat it up.

The way I read "what's more important, reducing racism or hating racists" is that those two things are diametrically opposed. That by hating racists and refusing to engage with them in good faith, you're condemning them to further radicalisation, and that by engaging with them productively you're giving them a chance to atone.

To a point, this can be true on an individual level. Hey Grandma, stop being so racist, these people are just trying to get by. I love you but that's fucked up. Maybe engaging with one person you're close with can help persuade them to take a more positive direction.

But on a wider scale, appeasing racists and bigots and trying to explain the error of their ways isn't going to work. That narrative doesn't apply when you have a movement of people who have made up their mind that that's their stance, and who are powerful enough to push their ideology through the political process until their views are reflected in political policy. The only way to combat that is to... combat it. To actively challenge it.

"Hating racists" and "reducing racism" aren't diametrically opposed. You hate racism, you point out the effect that racism has and how it seeps into the language someone is using, and when the person who's being racist defends their racism and uses the opportunity to paint themselves as a free speech martyr being silenced by the Regressive Left, you label them as a racist. Simple as that. You stigmatize racism, you make it less socially acceptable to be a racist, and you change the culture to find racism less acceptable and palatable. There is room for compassion on an individual level, and there will be people who take cancellation too far and the like - but let's get one thing straight here: hating racism and hating racists can - and does - reduce racism.

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If we just shut the fuck up while they yell "what about chicago?" every day, we can all get healthcare!


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joe40001 posted...

If there was a single republican here arguing for division I'd tell them to stop too.

Right of course! Republicans never play the division game! They play the "we were always right from the beginning" game. They play the "we're the default, you're the aberrant" game. They play the "things were just fine until you came around and started complaining" game.

Easy to call yourselves uniters when it's under a fascist fucking rule.

Easy to say "we're all happy and together and united under one flag" when you've successfully throttled the voices of dissent!

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BeantownHero posted...

Donald Trump recieved 70+ million votes and has consistently polled as one of the front runners for the Republican nomination in 2024

couple that in with conservatives who dont vote, yet support the GOP(and by extension, MAGA) politically and socially and you can miss me with the "not all Republicans/conservatives" nonsense

There's one group cutting off their nose to spite their face, and it ain't the one who wont stay silent in the face of voter suppression, attempts to make the LGBTQ community second class citizens, deny female bodily autonomy and demonize black and brown people who come here from other countries.

Somebody else being shitty, is not a good justification for you to be shitty.

70+ million people didn't vote for voter suppression, they voted to say "fuck you, hillary clinton" 70+ million people didn't to make LGBTQ people second class they voted to say "fuck you, biological sex is a thing", 70+ million people didn't vote to demonize black people, they voted for "fuck you, riots are bad even when black people do them."

Most people don't vote for republicans, they vote against democrats. And you don't help yourself or others by writing off half the country.

How can you even do that in your brain? Grossly overgeneralize and then get mad at republicans, because they overgeneralized? You tear down enough statues of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln and they are going to have plenty of ammo to overgeneralize about all democrats.

What, you just have to pray that they view the left with far more nuance and fairness than you view them?

There are worse things in the world than choosing to be the bigger man, particularly when humanity hangs in the balance.

Since 2015, police officers have fatally shot at least 135 unarmed Black Americans.

Well over 80k black americans died from COVID.

By using the former as an excuse to turn everything into a "white fragility" "white guilt" "white shame" "institutional racism" "white tears" "old white men bad" etc you alienated a lot of the country, and Trump got elected and way more people died from COVID than needed to.

George Floyd was not more important than the 80k Americans that died from COVID.

Your priorities are out of whack. Which would be fine if they were principled, but they aren't, it's still about shittyness points, it's still about watering down the meaning of the term "racist" so much that people no longer fear the label.

By playing this game you empower everything you claim to hate. And all it would take to stop it is one iota of humility.

Losing 600k americans is much more important than you and people like you losing some moral superiority points. So sacrifice a little bit of your smug indignation and you will make up tons more ground in cooperation, and in policy that people can get done.

It's quite simple, stop making hating your fellow man such a high priority.

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

Joe, explain this PLEASE

It's in the post immediately before yours

You called them "the fuck you party"

I did, and?

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joe40001 posted...

It's in the post immediately before yours

I did, and?

honestly that post just made me lose the game

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70+ million people didn't vote for voter suppression, they voted to say "fuck you, hillary clinton" 70+ million people didn't to make LGBTQ people second class they voted to say "fuck you, biological sex is a thing", 70+ million people didn't vote to demonize black people, they voted for "fuck you, riots are bad even when black people do them."

Most people don't vote for republicans, they vote against democrats. And you don't help yourself or others by writing off half the country.

This is either legitimately insane, or some dank trolling


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joe40001 posted...

70+ million people didn't vote for voter suppression, they voted to say "f*** you, hillary clinton"

Cool. But you do realise that by voting to say "fuck you, hillary clinton", they also voted for voter suppression, right? You realise that they supported shit like the Capitol Insurrection and the Unite the Right rally, both of them violent far-right demonstrations, right? By A) voting for Trump and B) standing by him as he suppressed voter rights and enabled violent far-right demonstrations, you can see how Trump supporters implicitly supported those things that they claim they're opposed to, right?

Because if they didn't support those things, and continued to support Trump the entire course if his presidency - as many did - they're either morons or they fail to see those examples as a problem.

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CyricZ posted...

Right of course! Republicans never play the division game!

I never said they didn't. I said there were none of them here that I saw.

Hivemind republicans do play it, and they are part of the problem. People obsessed with hating half the country are the problem. Again,

Somebody else being shitty, is not a good justification for you to be shitty.

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BeantownHero posted...

This is either legitimately insane, or some dank trolling

Both those things are consistent. They vote against democratic woke nonsense, not for the strawmen of "yay nazi biogotry racism facism" you pretend.

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It's really not that hard.

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I'm a democrat, but I honestly don't see what we have to gain from vilifying individuals like this. The GOP is the problem, not the individuals that bought their honeyed lies. :v They're stupid, but not all of them are malicious.

joe40001 posted...

Both those things are consistent. They vote against democratic woke nonsense, not for the strawmen of "yay nazi biogotry racism facism" you pretend.

door #1 it is

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Ardbert posted...

I'm a democrat

ok alt

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MrMallard posted...

ok alt

omg, how long do i have to be here before people stop accusing me of being an alt.

Ardbert posted...

I'm a democrat, but I honestly don't see what we have to gain from vilifying individuals like this. The GOP is the problem, not the individuals that bought their honeyed lies. :v They're stupid, but not all of them are malicious.

The issue is when you claim to be a supporter of the people those you vote and fund are openly oppressing and then tell them that them implementing laws to strip away their rights is "helping them" then you're just another oppressor and should be called out as such.

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"Just be nice" is being deliberately clueless about the results of the Obama administration.

We tried it, kay? Didn't work, and in fact, made things worse.

No more Mr. Nice Left. The wolves are literally at the door.

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BeantownHero posted...

door #1 it is

Common sense sounds insane to you?

I know you were deep in your hivemind bubble, but seriously the idea of acknowledging your fellow American who voted republican is human is beyond your comprehension?

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Funkydog posted...

The issue is when you claim to be a supporter of the people those you vote and fund are openly oppressing and then tell them that them implementing laws to strip away their rights is "helping them"

Yea, and it's good to tell them when they're falling short of that. :v The problem is that these people (the ones that aren't malicious) have cognitive dissonance and don't realize how they're actually impacting the groups they care about. They think that it's a net positive somehow. Getting out the pitchforks and throwing them into the lake of fire over it isn't helping anyone and it makes us look crazy and reactionary.

nothing common sense in appeasing racists and those who conveniently arent, yet justify supporting them politically because they "hate the all this wokeness" that much

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CyricZ posted...

"Just be nice" is being deliberately clueless about the results of the Obama administration.

We tried it, kay? Didn't work, and in fact, made things worse.

No more Mr. Nice Left. The wolves are literally at the door.

Then stop fucking hitting the wolves with sticks.

You know what else we had under the Obama administration? A plan for a viral outbreak. And we were making progress on healthcare. And people were overall happier and less afraid of their fellow American.

That really doesn't sound bad compared to the past 5 years.

Nothing of this hate you are advocating for helps anything.

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joe40001 posted...

Common sense sounds insane to you?

I know you were deep in your hivemind bubble, but seriously the idea of acknowledging your fellow American who voted republican is human is beyond your comprehension?

You mean the group who tried to have me labeled a terrorist for supporting a civil rights group and an anarchist for living in Portland?


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Ardbert posted...

Yea, and it's good to tell them when they're falling short of that. :v The problem is that these people (the ones that aren't malicious) have cognitive dissonance and don't realize how they're actually impacting the groups they care about. They think that it's a net positive somehow. Getting out the pitchforks and throwing them into the lake of fire over it isn't helping anyone and it makes us look crazy and reactionary.

Just how many decades and laws passed restricting our rights do we need to tolerate before we stop trying something that isn't working?

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@#246: Holy Reading Comprehension, Batman!

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BeantownHero posted...

nothing common sense in appeasing racists and those who conveniently arent, yet justify supporting them politically because they "hate the all this wokeness" that much

What percent of republican voters do you think are truly racist. Like think "PoC are less than human" kind of racist?

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People threatening to show up to his house because of who he voted for?

All of this because of who he voted for?

what the fuck is going on in this country, somebody needs to pull the plug on the internet

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