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AvantgardeAClue
06/10/21 8:30:27 PM
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Apparently the Yuffie DLC confirms that Zach is indeed alive somehow

Leave it to SE to ruin Clouds ENTIRE character in FFVII

Still excited to play it to see how it all plays out actually

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Shotgunnova
06/10/21 8:52:50 PM
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lmao

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TheDurinator
06/10/21 8:57:22 PM
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All I wanted was a 1:1 remake of FF7 with beautiful PS4-era visuals, was that really too much to ask for?
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skermac
06/10/21 8:57:28 PM
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I never played the original but I love the remake, you guys have to remember its a remake not a remaster a remake can be made into anything they want it to be if you dont want to see any changes replay the original

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AvantgardeAClue
06/10/21 8:57:47 PM
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Oh yeah, apparently hes still trying to find Aerith like in Crisis Core

BOY this will be interesting

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David1988
06/10/21 8:59:11 PM
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Oh well, not like anyone asked for a remake to come out broken up into 5 parts in 10+ years but here we are

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DarthAragorn
06/10/21 8:59:16 PM
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TheDurinator posted...
All I wanted was a 1:1 remake of FF7 with beautiful PS4-era visuals, was that really too much to ask for?
Square Enix hasn't made a good non Dragon Quest game since the PS2 so yeah

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CARRRNE_ASADA
06/10/21 9:00:17 PM
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Youll always have the original.

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Shotgunnova
06/10/21 9:04:49 PM
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TheDurinator posted...
All I wanted was a 1:1 remake of FF7 with beautiful PS4-era visuals, was that really too much to ask for?
Rumpelsqueenixskin can only turn gold into straw.

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Jabodie
06/10/21 9:06:31 PM
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Aw yeah. My "Zack is alive" fan fiction can finally come alive

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WashYourHands
06/10/21 9:08:34 PM
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When the time ghosts showed up all bets were off

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Darmik
06/10/21 9:10:06 PM
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So it's pretty safe to say FFVII is now basically its own franchise with no definitive end anymore right?

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DeadlyNinjaBees
06/10/21 9:11:35 PM
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FFVII is the game that ate itself and then pooped more of itself out.

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VerisimiIitude
06/10/21 9:14:15 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Square Enix hasn't made a good non Dragon Quest game since the PS2 so yeah
I dunno people seem to really like FFXIV

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EmbraceOfDeath
06/10/21 9:19:54 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Square Enix hasn't made a good non Dragon Quest game since the PS2 so yeah
Lmao what even is this opinion?

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eston
06/10/21 9:20:44 PM
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It already established that it's not going to follow the original, but tbqh all I wanted was a 1:1 remake too. Same game but with modern production quality. Square is good at making things pretty. They could have done that.

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Lairen
06/10/21 9:23:55 PM
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And then squall will show up like "........." and then kefka will be like "I hate hate hate hate submarines!"

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Garlands_Soul
06/10/21 9:25:44 PM
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This company has some of the worst writing in video games. I'm not surprised they ruined this too. The original isn't a masterpiece but I don't find myself saying "oh fuck you" as the plot progresses. The remake is great for that

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bnui_ransder
06/10/21 9:27:03 PM
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Fuck i can't believe a remake isn't a remaster

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mehmeh1
06/10/21 9:27:40 PM
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Isn't the "Zack is alive" stuff like an AU to VIIR's story?

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_Rinku_
06/10/21 9:28:03 PM
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eston posted...
It already established that it's not going to follow the original, but tbqh all I wanted was a 1:1 remake too. Same game but with modern production quality. Square is good at making things pretty. They could have done that.
They are making a side game kinda like that. It's going to be on mobile and broken up into chapters released as they're finished.
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Lairen
06/10/21 9:28:27 PM
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Barret: "Just come home and see your daughter."
Dyne: "Well alright! Cheers!"

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_MorningStar
06/10/21 9:28:51 PM
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Yes. Now I don't have to go to the remake board to devours salty salty tears.

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Lairen
06/10/21 9:32:11 PM
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Nanaki: "Heres a gold needle!"
Seto: "Thanks!"

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DespondentDeity
06/10/21 9:32:50 PM
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Shotgunnova posted...
Rumpelsqueenixskin can only turn gold into straw.

lmao nice

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skermac
06/10/21 9:36:39 PM
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TheDurinator posted...
All I wanted was a 1:1 remake of FF7 with beautiful PS4-era visuals, was that really too much to ask for?

you have to take what they make, remember a remake is never identical to the original game and doesnt need to be, thats why its called a remake

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ChrisTaka
06/10/21 9:44:13 PM
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Vincent : "Let me sleep"

Cloud: "Okay"

Vincent: Proceeds to sleep through the rest of the story.

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BakonBitz
06/10/21 9:50:11 PM
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I'll have to see what the ending actually is, but I was assuming "Zack is alive" was an alternate reality. Is that not actually the case and the past retroactively got changed?

If that's the case, so much for the developers saying they weren't going to majorly change the story. That's kind of a big change right there.

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DarthAragorn
06/10/21 9:51:34 PM
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skermac posted...
you have to take what they make, remember a remake is never identical to the original game and doesnt need to be, thats why its called a remake
There's a difference between a remake and a reimagining

This is a reimagining, in the sense that only the faintest similarities to the original remain

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masterpug53
06/10/21 9:58:50 PM
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One of the only lines I remember from Gremlins 2 was a loudspeaker advertisement for a Casablanca remake: 'Now in color and with a happier ending!'

Remember a time when such a statement was considered satire?

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Wetterdew
06/10/21 10:01:21 PM
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Garlands_Soul posted...
This company has some of the worst writing in video games.
agreed, and that's saying something, given how low the bar is for writing in video games.

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AvantgardeAClue
06/10/21 10:37:19 PM
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Lairen posted...
Barret: "Just come home and see your daughter."
Dyne: "Well alright! Cheers!"

Lmao, basically

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AvantgardeAClue
06/10/21 10:39:03 PM
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skermac posted...
you have to take what they make, remember a remake is never identical to the original game and doesnt need to be, thats why its called a remake

You're thinking of a reboot

FFIV on the DS for instance was a proper remake, same game but better graphics and QOL improvements

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ROOTFayth
06/11/21 4:45:11 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
There's a difference between a remake and a reimagining

This is a reimagining, in the sense that only the faintest similarities to the original remain
just finished intergrade, it's more similar than different, we have no idea yet what the Zack thing is all about
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Tyranthraxus
06/11/21 4:48:13 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
just finished intergrade, it's more similar than different, we have no idea yet what the Zack thing is all about
Zack went to find Aerith but she already left with Cloud. While following their trails, he finds Biggs and Jessie among the rubble and takes them to Aerith's house.

Just my guess.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
06/11/21 4:49:20 PM
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Anyone who played the original Remake knows they are doing their own thing. It is basically like... an alternate reality story.

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ROOTFayth
06/11/21 4:51:05 PM
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I mean there are going to be differences but ultimately I think it's still going to be very similar
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Tyranthraxus
06/11/21 4:51:22 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Anyone who played the original Remake knows they are doing their own thing. It is basically like... an alternate reality story.
It's not really an AU it's more like they're just retconning shit but they're providing in universe explanations for the retcons.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
06/11/21 4:52:30 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
just finished intergrade, it's more similar than different, we have no idea yet what the Zack thing is all about

Yeah I am sure there is something going on with Zack, no way they will just retcon such a huge part of Clouds story

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Questionmarktarius
06/11/21 4:56:07 PM
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TheDurinator posted...
All I wanted was a 1:1 remake of FF7 with beautiful PS4-era visuals, was that really too much to ask for?
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CyricZ
06/11/21 4:56:10 PM
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"All I wanted was the same thing as before only the same."

Anyway I don't know why we're having this argument now after FF7R has been out for over a year. Did TC hold out some odd hope that maybe it was going to be the exact same story after all we saw?

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Tyranthraxus
06/11/21 4:57:01 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Yeah I am sure there is something going on with Zack, no way they will just retcon such a huge part of Clouds story

They did. In the "7 seconds" at the end, Cloud saved Zack & others. So it's retconned but Cloud also deliberately did it.

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ROOTFayth
06/11/21 4:59:12 PM
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yea I don't think I wanted an exact 1:1 remake, I wanted more content, more development on the convoluted story that is FF7, think I'm happy with where they're going, just hope it's going to make sense and not be more complicated than it already is and hopefully it's all released in a reasonable timeframe

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AngelsNAirwav3s
06/11/21 5:01:09 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
They did. In the "7 seconds" at the end, Cloud saved Zack & others. So it's retconned but Cloud also deliberately did it.

Cloud and Zack cant both have the Buster Sword though

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CyricZ
06/11/21 5:05:41 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Cloud and Zack cant both have the Buster Sword though
There also "can't be two Sephiroths".

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El Mexicano Texano
06/11/21 5:07:11 PM
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CyricZ posted...
"All I wanted was the same thing as before only the same."

Anyway I don't know why we're having this argument now after FF7R has been out for over a year. Did TC hold out some odd hope that maybe it was going to be the exact same story after all we saw?

Crash Trilogy remake came out perfect and it was made with a smaller budget and it was $40 as well, with a smaller group of people compared to Square and FF7


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MixedRaceBaby
06/11/21 5:08:23 PM
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Did people not play the game? Or read anything SE said about the game? It's clearly not a remake. It's part of the compendium of ff7 or whatever it's called. Obviously there are multiverse shenanigans going on.

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Rharyx211
06/11/21 5:12:23 PM
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TheDurinator posted...
All I wanted was a 1:1 remake of FF7 with beautiful PS4-era visuals, was that really too much to ask for?

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CyricZ
06/11/21 5:15:36 PM
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El Mexicano Texano posted...
Crash Trilogy remake came out perfect and it was made with a smaller budget and it was $40 as well, with a smaller group of people compared to Square and FF7
It's also 20% of the amount of narrative material, and that's being generous.

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Tyranthraxus
06/11/21 5:18:38 PM
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CyricZ posted...
It's also 20% of the amount of narrative material, and that's being generous.
It's a silent protagonist in a game about smashing boxes and eating fruit.

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