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HHH is the game 06/10/21 3:49:18 PM #101:	Lokison posted... Just understand that a transwoman and a ciswoman are literally the same thing: woman, This really bothers me because everybody treats this as a fact, when it's....not. It's an...opinion. It relies on how you interpret gender. Personally I have no problem treating a trans person as the gender they would like to be treated as. To say that they are literally the same thing.....and just expecting everybody to agree with that....I just cant agree with. To me, boys and girls...mean nothing so I don't understand transgender. When I grew up we rejected gender roles, and that was the progressive stance. Girls could love sports and cars. Boys could like pink and dolls and dresses, if they wanted. They shouldn't be constrained. To me, boys are males, girls are females, and at that point they don't have to fit into the box society has set for them. Things like trans and non-binary confuse me because it seems to be saying boys are manly, and girls need to be feminine, and if you don't suit that, you're actually something else. An extremely feminine boy, to me is just that, a feminine male, and it shouldn't matter how they are. I guess there is some merit in changing that. Perhaps instead we say that if you like cars and sports and stuff you are a boy, no matter what your genitalia, and if you like dolls and dresses, you are a girl. So you choose your role in society and purposely choose by the gender roles. That's....ok I guess. In some ways maybe thats easier for people? Since they don't have to worry about expectations. But this is your opinion on gender, and not the world we currently live in, and not everybody agrees with that. So I have no problem treating a trans woman with respect, but in terms of objective arguments, I don't agree that a trans woman is 'literally' a woman, because I dont feel like gender means anything, and to me its just...were you born with a penis? Ok youre a man, no matter how you act or feel, because being a man doesn't mean anything to me besides that you have a penis. --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver <cite>HHH is the game posted [p:954853963] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>Lokison posted... </cite> <quote>Just understand that a transwoman and a ciswoman are literally the same thing: woman,</quote> This really bothers me because everybody treats this as a fact, when it's....not. It's an...opinion. It relies on how you interpret gender. Personally I have no problem treating a trans person as the gender they would like to be treated as. To say that they are literally the same thing.....and just expecting everybody to agree with that....I just cant agree with. To me, boys and girls...mean nothing so I don't understand transgender. When I grew up we rejected gender roles, and that was the progressive stance. Girls could love sports and cars. Boys could like pink and dolls and dresses, if they wanted. They shouldn't be constrained. To me, boys are males, girls are females, and at that point they don't have to fit into the box society has set for them. Things like trans and non-binary confuse me because it seems to be saying boys are manly, and girls need to be feminine, and if you don't suit that, you're actually something else. An extremely feminine boy, to me is just that, a feminine male, and it shouldn't matter how they are. I guess there is some merit in changing that. Perhaps instead we say that if you like cars and sports and stuff you are a boy, no matter what your genitalia, and if you like dolls and dresses, you are a girl. So you choose your role in society and purposely choose by the gender roles. That's....ok I guess. In some ways maybe thats easier for people? Since they don't have to worry about expectations. But this is your opinion on gender, and not the world we currently live in, and not everybody agrees with that. So I have no problem treating a trans woman with respect, but in terms of objective arguments, I don't agree that a trans woman is 'literally' a woman, because I dont feel like gender means anything, and to me its just...were you born with a penis? Ok youre a man, no matter how you act or feel, because being a man doesn't mean anything to me besides that you have a penis. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 06/10/21 3:51:32 PM #102:	Conflict posted... No, it's not a violation You don't get to just magically determine you were violated when you made literally no effort to communicate what you want and what you don't want. Sorry, but that's not how any of this works. If you don't want to see a dick in bed, then man up and say so So it's all on one person? Its not on the person who flat out lied? That's bullshit and you know it. Both people need to be Honest. If they can't do that, then maybe they need to reevaluate themselves, and gain a little maturity first. --- 2DS FC tempest 1478 9807 1205 <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:954854059] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>No, it's not a violation You don't get to just magically determine you were violated when you made literally no effort to communicate what you want and what you don't want. Sorry, but that's not how any of this works. If you don't want to see a dick in bed, then man up and say so</quote>So it's all on one person? Its not on the person who flat out lied? That's bullshit and you know it. Both people need to be Honest. If they can't do that, then maybe they need to reevaluate themselves, and gain a little maturity first. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
2SweetforTurtle 06/10/21 3:51:51 PM #103:	Conflict posted... "It's rape because I don't think transgender women are actually women" 101 Try again bub. Ive already defended trans women. Meanwhile you sit there espousing shit straight out of a rape apology handbook. --- Slow and steady wins the race <cite>2SweetforTurtle posted [p:954854074] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>"It's rape because I don't think transgender women are actually women" 101</quote> Try again bub. Ive already defended trans women. Meanwhile you sit there espousing shit straight out of a rape apology handbook. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 06/10/21 3:51:53 PM #104:	Is it rape if a woman is only a 3/10, but because I didn't have my contacts in I thought she was a 9/10? <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:954854077] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>Is it rape if a woman is only a 3/10, but because I didn't have my contacts in I thought she was a 9/10? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HHH is the game 06/10/21 3:51:54 PM #105:	Conflict posted... No, it's not a violation You don't get to just magically determine you were violated when you made literally no effort to communicate what you want and what you don't want. Sorry, but that's not how any of this works. If you don't want to see a dick in bed, then man up and say so I consider myself on the left, overall, and much more so than right, but I hate the hypocrisy of people on the far left. This is NOT the way the general message is about sexual consent from the left, which talks about making sure that the other partner is comfortable with your advances, not just making as many as you can until they stop you --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver <cite>HHH is the game posted [p:954854079] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>No, it's not a violation You don't get to just magically determine you were violated when you made literally no effort to communicate what you want and what you don't want. Sorry, but that's not how any of this works. If you don't want to see a dick in bed, then man up and say so</quote> I consider myself on the left, overall, and much more so than right, but I hate the hypocrisy of people on the far left. This is NOT the way the general message is about sexual consent from the left, which talks about making sure that the other partner is comfortable with your advances, not just making as many as you can until they stop you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 06/10/21 3:52:44 PM #106:	So this is not the first time liberals have bullied me because I don't want to have sex with trans women, even though I am very liberal myself. This is why a lot of people think we are such assholes. I mean conservatives are assholes too, but in a different way. We can do better. Also, how many people who bully me about this are sexually active 100% straight men? Because I question if you even understand where I am coming from. --- Currently playing: Monster Hunter Rise <cite>bsp77 posted [p:954854118] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>So this is not the first time liberals have bullied me because I don't want to have sex with trans women, even though I am very liberal myself. This is why a lot of people think we are such assholes. I mean conservatives are assholes too, but in a different way. We can do better. Also, how many people who bully me about this are sexually active 100% straight men? Because I question if you even understand where I am coming from. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HHH is the game 06/10/21 3:52:46 PM #107:	Conflict posted... "It's rape because I don't think transgender women are actually women" 101 Again, it has nothing to do with what we think. It has to do with what the other person thinks. --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver <cite>HHH is the game posted [p:954854121] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>"It's rape because I don't think transgender women are actually women" 101</quote> Again, it has nothing to do with what we think. It has to do with what the other person thinks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 06/10/21 3:54:02 PM #109:	HHH is the game posted... So I have no problem treating a trans woman with respect, but in terms of objective arguments, I don't agree that a trans woman is 'literally' a woman, because I dont feel like gender means anything, and to me its just...were you born with a penis? Ok youre a man, no matter how you act or feel, because being a man doesn't mean anything to me besides that you have a penis. So a cis male who was castrated is no longer a man? --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:954854185] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>HHH is the game posted... </cite> <quote>So I have no problem treating a trans woman with respect, but in terms of objective arguments, I don't agree that a trans woman is 'literally' a woman, because I dont feel like gender means anything, and to me its just...were you born with a penis? Ok youre a man, no matter how you act or feel, because being a man doesn't mean anything to me besides that you have a penis.</quote> So a cis male who was castrated is no longer a man? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 06/10/21 3:54:11 PM #110:	This really bothers me because everybody treats this as a fact, when it's....not. It's an...opinion. It relies on how you interpret gender. Origin story matters to some people. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:954854195] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote><quote>This really bothers me because everybody treats this as a fact, when it's....not. It's an...opinion. It relies on how you interpret gender.</quote> Origin story matters to some people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 06/10/21 3:54:37 PM #111:	Damn, CE is out in full force today. Then again, pride month and black history month always seem to draw out posters suddenly concerned with hypotheticals about the applicable minorities for the month. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:954854217] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>Damn, CE is out in full force today. Then again, pride month and black history month always seem to draw out posters suddenly concerned with hypotheticals about the applicable minorities for the month. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChrisTaka 06/10/21 3:55:38 PM #113:	If you don't mention something that isn't brought up I don't consider that deceiving. --- If Corona is so bad why not just make it illegal? thinking emoji <cite>ChrisTaka posted [p:954854263] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>If you don't mention something that isn't brought up I don't consider that deceiving. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 06/10/21 3:55:50 PM #114:	Umbreon posted... So a cis male who was castrated is no longer a man? ooh, got 'em trans bigots btfo'd by FACTS AND LOGIC --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:954854272] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite> <quote>So a cis male who was castrated is no longer a man?</quote> ooh, got 'em trans bigots btfo'd by FACTS AND LOGIC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HHH is the game 06/10/21 3:56:30 PM #115:	Umbreon posted... So a cis male who was castrated is no longer a man? Was born with, then. To me I just don't see the purpose of gender being separate from sex. I consider them just....the same thing, because I don't believe in society enforcing gender roles, or the idea that being a male means anything about what your role in society has to be.To me things like non-binary and other progressive things actually feel REGRESSIVE, because I thought we were trying to weaken the power gender roles had, and this seems to be actually strengthening them. But again, I could be wrong in all of this, that's fine, I acknowledge that, but it's irrelevant to this topic --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver <cite>HHH is the game posted [p:954854306] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite> <quote>So a cis male who was castrated is no longer a man?</quote> Was born with, then. To me I just don't see the purpose of gender being separate from sex. I consider them just....the same thing, because I don't believe in society enforcing gender roles, or the idea that being a male means anything about what your role in society has to be.To me things like non-binary and other progressive things actually feel REGRESSIVE, because I thought we were trying to weaken the power gender roles had, and this seems to be actually strengthening them. But again, I could be wrong in all of this, that's fine, I acknowledge that, but it's irrelevant to this topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 06/10/21 3:57:09 PM #116:	bsp77 posted... So this is not the first time liberals have bullied me because I don't want to have sex with trans women, even though I am very liberal myself. ...I don't see any bullying? People are disagreeing with you, but that isn't 'bullying'. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:954854328] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite> <quote>So this is not the first time liberals have bullied me because I don't want to have sex with trans women, even though I am very liberal myself.</quote> ...I don't see any bullying? People are disagreeing with you, but that isn't 'bullying'. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 06/10/21 3:58:01 PM #117:	It is deception not rape. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:954854364] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>It is deception not rape. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 06/10/21 3:59:21 PM #118:	Umbreon posted... ...I don't see any bullying? People are disagreeing with you, but that isn't 'bullying'. Depends on the conversation. Maybe I shouldn't have brought it up this time, as no one has blatantly called me transphobic this time, but I have been called that before simply because I don't want a penis involved when I have sex. Well, other than mine lol --- Currently playing: Monster Hunter Rise <cite>bsp77 posted [p:954854425] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite> <quote>...I don't see any bullying? People are disagreeing with you, but that isn't 'bullying'.</quote>Depends on the conversation. Maybe I shouldn't have brought it up this time, as no one has blatantly called me transphobic this time, but I have been called that before simply because I don't want a penis involved when I have sex. Well, other than mine lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 06/10/21 4:00:17 PM #119:	HHH is the game posted... Was born with, then. To me I just don't see the purpose of gender being separate from sex. I consider them just....the same thing, Then what do you call people born with both? Also sex and gender are separate things. I also don't care for gender roles(Especially since some of them are toxic as fuck), but that doesn't change the fact that people feel a certain way. I feel like I'm a man, albeit one that doesn't fit the mold of "typical manly man". --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:954854466] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>HHH is the game posted... </cite> <quote>Was born with, then. To me I just don't see the purpose of gender being separate from sex. I consider them just....the same thing,</quote> Then what do you call people born with both? Also sex and gender are separate things. I also don't care for gender roles(Especially since some of them are toxic as fuck), but that doesn't change the fact that people feel a certain way. I feel like I'm a man, albeit one that doesn't fit the mold of "typical manly man". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RenescoStCewl 06/10/21 4:00:41 PM #120:	DJquackquack posted... So if a man dressed like a woman in order to sleep with a lesbian, and then flips on the lights midway through sex, pulls off his wig and says gotcha, he didnt just rape her? She pushes him off her and screams, and what he did is just totally okay? @NoxObscuras According to people in that other topic, no this isn't rape, it's just kind of rude. --- sTrOM ThuRmONd!!! <cite>RenescoStCewl posted [p:954854480] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>DJquackquack posted... </cite> <quote>So if a man dressed like a woman in order to sleep with a lesbian, and then flips on the lights midway through sex, pulls off his wig and says gotcha, he didnt just rape her? She pushes him off her and screams, and what he did is just totally okay? @NoxObscuras</quote>According to people in that other topic, no this isn't rape, it's just kind of rude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 06/10/21 4:01:33 PM #121:	@bsp77 Just say you only date, and have sex with cis women then, that you do not want sexual contact with someone who is not a cis woman. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:954854514] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>@bsp77 Just say you only date, and have sex with cis women then, that you do not want sexual contact with someone who is not a cis woman. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 06/10/21 4:01:47 PM #122:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... It is deception not rape. same thing. a woman may consent to sex but is she is deceived into giving consent, then its classed as rape. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:954854527] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite> <quote>It is deception not rape.</quote> same thing. a woman may consent to sex but is she is deceived into giving consent, then its classed as rape. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 06/10/21 4:01:58 PM #123:	I've already explained myself on that. If someone isn't into people in the LGBT spectrum, the person who is in that spectrum needs to be honest and look elsewhere. And if they can't respect that, and lie to their partner, then they deserve to get broken up with, once the cat's outta the bag. --- 2DS FC tempest 1478 9807 1205 <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:954854535] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>I've already explained myself on that. If someone isn't into people in the LGBT spectrum, the person who is in that spectrum needs to be honest and look elsewhere. And if they can't respect that, and lie to their partner, then they deserve to get broken up with, once the cat's outta the bag. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 06/10/21 4:03:04 PM #124:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... @bsp77 Just say you only date, and have sex with cis women then, that you do not want sexual contact with someone who is not a cis woman. https://missionmag.org/super-straight-sexuality-tiktok-transphobia/ BEING SUPER STRAIGHT IS SUPER TRANSPHOBIC Trans social media users are responding to the new sexuality in educational ways. By Emma Kahmann. Social media has spawned many trends over this past year, including aspirational manifestation culture and playful jokes centered on starter packs. But this last week a new trend emerged which is rooted in transphobia: the so-called super-straight sexuality. The derogatory idea started as a joke, but certain cisgender users began to seriously use the label as a sexual orientation that identifies a cisgender individual who wont date a trans person. TikTok users have since claimed this sexuality, which was designed specifically to troll LGBTQ+ folks, by both invalidating the gender of a trans person and mocking the LGBTQ+ community. TikTok creator Kyle Royce first originated the term as a joke, claiming that he cant be called transphobic for refusing to date a trans woman because his sexuality means hed rather date what he deems a real girl. In the viral video where he first shared the idea, he claimed that his sexuality should be respected, as he is part of the LGBTQ+ community. Royces video reached 2 million likes before TikTok took it down and banned his account. A representative of Tik-Tok later told the U.K. LGBTQ+ site PinkNews that the community guidelines make clear that we do not tolerate hate speech or hateful ideologies. Trans activists have responded to the hateful trend by using it as a tool for education. Eden the Doll, a YouTuber and TikToker, responded to Royces transphobic content with a series of TikTok videos, describing in length how no trans women are forcing men to be attracted to them. These claims not only show how insecure men are, Eden says, their entire sexuality was formed around a trans woman, and a community that has done nothing to them. Outside of TikTok, trans content creator Sam Collins also addressed the orientation on his YouTube channel. Super straight was formed around a persons preferences, Collins states, disqualifying it as a true sexual orientation, which is not a choice. LGBTQ+ people, and other marginalized groups, fight for a voice and visibility every single day. The super-straight is simply an attempt by those who hold transphobic views to make themselves the victim by adapting the language of LGBTQ+ individuals. But trans people have taken this mockery as a chance to point out the highly problematic issues with the new sexuality, and create a dialogue for educating people about what it means to be trans and a part of the LGBTQ+ community. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:954854573] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite> <quote>@bsp77 Just say you only date, and have sex with cis women then, that you do not want sexual contact with someone who is not a cis woman.</quote> https://missionmag.org/super-straight-sexuality-tiktok-transphobia/ <quote>BEING SUPER STRAIGHT IS SUPER TRANSPHOBIC Trans social media users are responding to the new sexuality in educational ways. By Emma Kahmann. Social media has spawned many trends over this past year, including aspirational manifestation culture and playful jokes centered on starter packs. But this last week a new trend emerged which is rooted in transphobia: the so-called super-straight sexuality. The derogatory idea started as a joke, but certain cisgender users began to seriously use the label as a sexual orientation that identifies a cisgender individual who wont date a trans person. TikTok users have since claimed this sexuality, which was designed specifically to troll LGBTQ+ folks, by both invalidating the gender of a trans person and mocking the LGBTQ+ community. TikTok creator Kyle Royce first originated the term as a joke, claiming that he cant be called transphobic for refusing to date a trans woman because his sexuality means hed rather date what he deems a real girl. In the viral video where he first shared the idea, he claimed that his sexuality should be respected, as he is part of the LGBTQ+ community. Royces video reached 2 million likes before TikTok took it down and banned his account. A representative of Tik-Tok later told the U.K. LGBTQ+ site PinkNews that the community guidelines make clear that we do not tolerate hate speech or hateful ideologies. Trans activists have responded to the hateful trend by using it as a tool for education. Eden the Doll, a YouTuber and TikToker, responded to Royces transphobic content with a series of TikTok videos, describing in length how no trans women are forcing men to be attracted to them. These claims not only show how insecure men are, Eden says, their entire sexuality was formed around a trans woman, and a community that has done nothing to them. Outside of TikTok, trans content creator Sam Collins also addressed the orientation on his YouTube channel. Super straight was formed around a persons preferences, Collins states, disqualifying it as a true sexual orientation, which is not a choice. LGBTQ+ people, and other marginalized groups, fight for a voice and visibility every single day. The super-straight is simply an attempt by those who hold transphobic views to make themselves the victim by adapting the language of LGBTQ+ individuals. But trans people have taken this mockery as a chance to point out the highly problematic issues with the new sexuality, and create a dialogue for educating people about what it means to be trans and a part of the LGBTQ+ community.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 06/10/21 4:03:05 PM #125:	Deception is NOT rape, rape is being forced against your will. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:954854574] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>Deception is NOT rape, rape is being forced against your will. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 06/10/21 4:03:37 PM #126:	DJquackquack posted... the person in question has a penis and doesnt tell you. You find out after the fact Stop here. How. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:954854590] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>DJquackquack posted... </cite> <quote>the person in question has a penis and doesnt tell you. You find out after the fact</quote>Stop here. How. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 06/10/21 4:03:55 PM #127:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... @bsp77 Just say you only date, and have sex with cis women then, that you do not want sexual contact with someone who is not a cis woman. I mean, sure. But some then call me transphobic and a bigot. --- Currently playing: Monster Hunter Rise <cite>bsp77 posted [p:954854599] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite> <quote>@bsp77 Just say you only date, and have sex with cis women then, that you do not want sexual contact with someone who is not a cis woman.</quote>I mean, sure. But some then call me transphobic and a bigot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY 06/10/21 4:05:26 PM #130:	@bsp77 That is when you ask them if a lesbian or a gay is a bigot, the answer is NO they are not and neither is anyone who does not want sex with a trans person. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:954854680] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>@bsp77 That is when you ask them if a lesbian or a gay is a bigot, the answer is NO they are not and neither is anyone who does not want sex with a trans person. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 06/10/21 4:05:32 PM #131:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... Deception is NOT rape, rape is being forced against your will. Its still not cool to do. --- 2DS FC tempest 1478 9807 1205 <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:954854685] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite> <quote>Deception is NOT rape, rape is being forced against your will.</quote>Its still not cool to do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 06/10/21 4:07:32 PM #132:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... @bsp77 That is when you ask them if a lesbian or a gay is a bigot, the answer is NO they are not and neither is anyone who does not want sex with a trans person. I have retaliated with whether a gay man is transphobic for not wanting to have sex with a FTM without a penis. That usually shuts them up. --- Currently playing: Monster Hunter Rise <cite>bsp77 posted [p:954854765] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite> <quote>@bsp77 That is when you ask them if a lesbian or a gay is a bigot, the answer is NO they are not and neither is anyone who does not want sex with a trans person.</quote>I have retaliated with whether a gay man is transphobic for not wanting to have sex with a FTM without a penis. That usually shuts them up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The-Apostle 06/10/21 4:07:35 PM #133:	I would say it is. However, I wouldn't say killing the person over it is justified. --- http://goo.gl/mnO36O #GoPackGo Not changing sig until NHL players are allowed to play in the Olympics. Started 2/22/2018 <cite>The-Apostle posted [p:954854768] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>I would say it is. However, I wouldn't say killing the person over it is justified. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 06/10/21 4:08:26 PM #134:	No one is saying deception is ok, it is wrong but it is not the same, and yes I have heard of rape by deception but that does not fit for this situation. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:954854803] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>No one is saying deception is ok, it is wrong but it is not the same, and yes I have heard of rape by deception but that does not fit for this situation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 06/10/21 4:09:50 PM #135:	Kyle1022 posted... Which is fine, but then why hide it when hooking up with someone? They're not. TC is concocting a scenario that no trans person with a functioning brain stem would ever want to find themselves in. Trans people know they've been murdered for less. bsp77 posted... So this is not the first time liberals have bullied me because I don't want to have sex with trans women Who would admit to this. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:954854867] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>Kyle1022 posted... </cite> <quote>Which is fine, but then why hide it when hooking up with someone?</quote>They're not. TC is concocting a scenario that no trans person with a functioning brain stem would ever want to find themselves in. Trans people know they've been murdered for less. bsp77 posted... </cite> <quote>So this is not the first time liberals have bullied me because I don't want to have sex with trans women</quote>Who would admit to this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HHH is the game 06/10/21 4:09:53 PM #136:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... No one is saying deception is ok, it is wrong but it is not the same, and yes I have heard of rape by deception but that does not fit for this situation. The problem is people ARE saying its ok. No problem with saying its deception not rape, but do have a problem with people saying its not deception and not wrong --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver <cite>HHH is the game posted [p:954854872] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite> <quote>No one is saying deception is ok, it is wrong but it is not the same, and yes I have heard of rape by deception but that does not fit for this situation.</quote> The problem is people ARE saying its ok. No problem with saying its deception not rape, but do have a problem with people saying its not deception and not wrong </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 06/10/21 4:11:17 PM #137:	CyricZ posted... Who would admit to this. Admit to what? Not clear --- Currently playing: Monster Hunter Rise <cite>bsp77 posted [p:954854918] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote> Who would admit to this.</quote>Admit to what? Not clear </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 06/10/21 4:11:26 PM #138:	bsp77 posted... I have retaliated with whether a gay man is transphobic for not wanting to have sex with a FTM without a penis. That usually shuts them up. This is also a good way to end that shit, this bullshit reminds me of the people trying to convert people a while back with the how do you know if you never tried it garbage. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:954854927] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite> <quote>I have retaliated with whether a gay man is transphobic for not wanting to have sex with a FTM without a penis. That usually shuts them up.</quote>This is also a good way to end that shit, this bullshit reminds me of the people trying to convert people a while back with the how do you know if you never tried it garbage. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 06/10/21 4:12:26 PM #140:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... That is when you ask them if a lesbian or a gay is a bigot, the answer is NO they are not and neither is anyone who does not want sex with a trans person. The thing is... "Trans" doesn't imply male or female. There are trans men, and trans women. So again, what's the difference between a cis woman and a trans woman who is 100% transitioned(aka no penis)? Assuming you're just after sex. "Their body is different!" How? And don't give me "bone structure" you know damn well no one even considers that when it comes to fucking. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:954854971] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite> <quote>That is when you ask them if a lesbian or a gay is a bigot, the answer is NO they are not and neither is anyone who does not want sex with a trans person.</quote> The thing is... "Trans" doesn't imply male or female. There are trans men, and trans women. So again, what's the difference between a cis woman and a trans woman who is 100% transitioned(aka no penis)? Assuming you're just after sex. "Their body is different!" How? And don't give me "bone structure" you know damn well no one even considers that when it comes to fucking. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ekie 06/10/21 4:13:08 PM #141:	CyricZ posted... breathe in heavy sigh Under what circumstances is sex with a trans person nonconsensual? When you don't know that they're trans. Sexual trickery is a crime under many different circumstances including this one --- ALL HAIL LORD DUNCAN! https://imgur.com/vsYREtU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZc3uq56JKU <cite>ekie posted [p:954855002] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>breathe in heavy sigh Under what circumstances is sex with a trans person nonconsensual?</quote> When you don't know that they're trans. Sexual trickery is a crime under many different circumstances including this one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heavy_D_Forever 06/10/21 4:13:35 PM #142:	I don't use any dating apps, but if I matched with someone who had "female" on their bio and during the date I found out that person has a penis then I'd be pretty pissed off about it. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES <cite>Heavy_D_Forever posted [p:954855015] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>I don't use any dating apps, but if I matched with someone who had "female" on their bio and during the date I found out that person has a penis then I'd be pretty pissed off about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ekie 06/10/21 4:13:47 PM #143:	_Rinku_ posted... No. I'm an atheist. Is it rape if I don't disclose that before sex? How about the fact that I eat meat? What if I'm wearing contacts and you can't tell? Ooh, or God forbid that I don't mention that I dye my hair beforehand. Such a horrible post --- ALL HAIL LORD DUNCAN! https://imgur.com/vsYREtU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZc3uq56JKU <cite>ekie posted [p:954855025] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>_Rinku_ posted... </cite> <quote>No. I'm an atheist. Is it rape if I don't disclose that before sex? How about the fact that I eat meat? What if I'm wearing contacts and you can't tell? Ooh, or God forbid that I don't mention that I dye my hair beforehand.</quote> Such a horrible post </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 06/10/21 4:13:48 PM #144:	@Umbreon Some people want to have their biological child, a trans woman can not do that. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:954855026] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>@Umbreon Some people want to have their biological child, a trans woman can not do that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 06/10/21 4:13:59 PM #145:	Umbreon posted... The thing is... "Trans" doesn't imply male or female. There are trans men, and trans women. So again, what's the difference between a cis woman and a trans woman who is 100% transitioned(aka no penis)? Assuming you're just after sex. "Their body is different!" How? And don't give me "bone structure" you know damn well no one even considers that when it comes to fucking. I made it clear before that I am okay with this scenario. Fully transitioned and juat sex. --- Currently playing: Monster Hunter Rise <cite>bsp77 posted [p:954855034] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite> <quote>The thing is... "Trans" doesn't imply male or female. There are trans men, and trans women. So again, what's the difference between a cis woman and a trans woman who is 100% transitioned(aka no penis)? Assuming you're just after sex. "Their body is different!" How? And don't give me "bone structure" you know damn well no one even considers that when it comes to fucking.</quote>I made it clear before that I am okay with this scenario. Fully transitioned and juat sex. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 06/10/21 4:15:01 PM #146:	RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... @Umbreon Some people want to have their biological child, a trans woman can not do that. Neither can some cis women. Is a woman who is is infertile "raping" you if you have sex with her and she doesn't bring it up? --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:954855074] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... </cite> <quote>@Umbreon Some people want to have their biological child, a trans woman can not do that.</quote> Neither can some cis women. Is a woman who is is infertile "raping" you if you have sex with her and she doesn't bring it up? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 06/10/21 4:15:36 PM #147:	ekie posted... When you don't know that they're trans. Sexual trickery is a crime under many different circumstances including this one Please point to the law that codifies trans people specifically. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:954855098] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>ekie posted... </cite> <quote>When you don't know that they're trans. Sexual trickery is a crime under many different circumstances including this one</quote>Please point to the law that codifies trans people specifically. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 06/10/21 4:15:38 PM #148:	HHH is the game posted... The problem is people ARE saying its ok. No problem with saying its deception not rape, but do have a problem with people saying its not deception and not wrong Literally everyone has stuff they wouldn't tell someone on their first encounter. Skeletons, dirty laundry, secrets, complexity. It's not deception to not mention that. Should a bi person have to tell every person they fuck that they are bi? (They should not). Should you be required to tell a girl you're into furry porn, or eating ass, or whatever the hell before you fuck them? It's not only impractical, it's stupid and it shows how far trans panic has spread throughout society. --- Marvel presents Marvel Marvel's The Marvels <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:954855101] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>HHH is the game posted... </cite> <quote>The problem is people ARE saying its ok. No problem with saying its deception not rape, but do have a problem with people saying its not deception and not wrong</quote> Literally everyone has stuff they wouldn't tell someone on their first encounter. Skeletons, dirty laundry, secrets, complexity. It's not deception to not mention that. Should a bi person have to tell every person they fuck that they are bi? (They should not). Should you be required to tell a girl you're into furry porn, or eating ass, or whatever the hell before you fuck them? It's not only impractical, it's stupid and it shows how far trans panic has spread throughout society. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 06/10/21 4:16:03 PM #149:	bsp77 posted... I made it clear before that I am okay with this scenario. Fully transitioned and juat sex. Then that's perfectly fine. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:954855114] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite> <quote>I made it clear before that I am okay with this scenario. Fully transitioned and juat sex.</quote> Then that's perfectly fine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skermac 06/10/21 4:16:07 PM #150:	Its not rape if both consent I dont think being trans or anything else is a factor , but it is deceptive, rape is sex that isnt consensual as far as I know --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:954855123] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>Its not rape if both consent I dont think being trans or anything else is a factor , but it is deceptive, rape is sex that isnt consensual as far as I know </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 06/10/21 4:16:15 PM #151:	I am not opening that can of worms, I have given my answers and that is the end of it as far as I am concerned. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:954855130] in Is it rape... [t:79505350]...</cite> <quote>I am not opening that can of worms, I have given my answers and that is the end of it as far as I am concerned. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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