Current Events > Should I report co-workers that lie about being vaccinated?

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Teh_Dr_Phil posted...

Or stop being an anti-vax derp and her vaccinated. Shocking idea, I know.

Nah, I think Karen is perfectly acceptable to use in this case

anyone lie yet or still getting mad over nothing?

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She's not wearing her mask on her face today

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darkprince45 posted...

Its a hard struggle. Youd be doing the right thing. But youd also be a snitch.

answer this. Can you live with yourself being a snitch

I don't like seeing this from a cop.

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with this topic TC has just proven that hes been a troll the entire duration of his account lol

you have no way of knowing anyones status, dude. Lol

anyway nobody likes snitches. lol

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Dark_SilverX posted...

your coworkers should report you instead

Why is it so hard for your type to be able to follow rules?

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pure_temper posted...

with this topic TC has just proven that hes been a troll the entire duration of his account lol

you have no way of knowing anyones status, dude. Lol

anyway nobody likes snitches. lol

three lols

too many lols

also you're regressing, careful

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I probably wouldn't, but if you want to do it then fuck 'em.

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pure_temper posted...

with this topic TC has just proven that hes been a troll the entire duration of his account lol

you have no way of knowing anyones status, dude. Lol

anyway nobody likes snitches. lol

I literally know her status though. Unless she was lying up to last week when she said "I'm not getting vaccinated for at least a few years", and got her vaccines near a black hole, there is no way she is currently vaccinated.

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hockeybub89 posted...

She's not wearing her mask on her face today

If she is in violation of company policies you should talk to the boss and mention it. Be polite and measured, not vitriolic. This doesn't make your coworker a fucking monster or something, but this does make them violating the company's policy during work hours.

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joe40001 posted...

This doesn't make your coworker a fucking monster

It makes them a fucking terrible person who is willing to risk the lives of others for a small amount of convenience.

Guide posted...

Why is it so hard for your type to be able to follow rules?

Their type? Whats that mean?

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Their type? Whats that mean?

I think you know.

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skermac posted...

Not your business stay out of it

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no you should not be a little tattle tail

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It's medical history, so that may run into some hr issues. I'd check to make sure that you wouldn't get fired for sharing it.

Otherwise, go for it imo

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AlphaCuck posted...

no you should not be a little tattle tail

based on the tag i have for you you're not in any place to attempt a moral high ground lmao

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Eevee-Trainer posted...

based on the tag i have for you you're not in any place to attempt a moral high ground lmao

cringe

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Jiek_Fafn posted...

It's medical history, so that may run into some hr issues. I'd check to make sure that you wouldn't get fired for sharing it.

Otherwise, go for it imo

It's not sharing medical history to inform the boss that a person who is not wearing a mask has been telling people they aren't getting vaccinated.

You know how we have these reserves of vaccine, right? The plan now is to deal with the pandemic cluster by cluster. The local health authority will define cluster by some minimum number of positive cases within a time frame and an area.

Health Department defines a state of emergency and come in full military paraphernalia (or not) and vaccinates everybody and quarantines everybody. Tell this co-worker that everyone will know who is responsible for his getting quarantined.

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Ain't shit you can do, TC.

So you report someone. What can your place of business do? Ask to see their immunization record?

HIPPA laws baby

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Perascamin posted...

Ain't shit you can do, TC.

So you report someone. What can your place of business do? Ask to see their immunization record?

HIPPA laws baby

You shouldn't talk about HIPPA when you don't understand anything about it.

yes because that lie has a chance to hurt others

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TC is the kid at school who everyone hated because he would tattletale on everyone

fohstick posted...

TC is the kid at school who everyone hated because he would tattletale on everyone

In all fairness, TC has not tattled on anyone.

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CobraGT posted...

You know how we have these reserves of vaccine, right? The plan now is to deal with the pandemic cluster by cluster. The local health authority will define cluster by some minimum number of positive cases within a time frame and an area.

Health Department defines a state of emergency and come in full military paraphernalia (or not) and vaccinates everybody and quarantines everybody. Tell this co-worker that everyone will know who is responsible for his getting quarantined.

Source?

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archedsoul posted...

Source?

State constitutions give these emergency powers to health departments. This is a traditional part of government everywhere.

My source is history of pandemics in this country. For instance measles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Philippines_measles_outbreak

Martial Law has been declared for less. Surely a nation that can call martial law for a steel workers strike can call martial law for a deadly disease.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/guide-declarations-martial-law-united-states

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Also https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5452688/

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CobraGT posted...

State constitutions give these emergency powers to health departments. This is a traditional part of government everywhere.

My source is history of pandemics in this country. For instance measles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Philippines_measles_outbreak

Martial Law has been declared for less. Surely a nation that can call martial law for a steel workers strike can call martial law for a deadly disease.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/guide-declarations-martial-law-united-states

You stated that people will be quarantined and vaccinated forcefully by the military if things don't get better. There is zero proof of that, so I'm not sure why you would use that to scare someone into taking the vaccine.

NY already tried to force vaccinations through a bill in December, and it was shot down. Mandatory measles vaccinations in school are also not the same thing as the military coming in and forcefully vaccinating you.

Just because they have the power doesn't mean it's happening with Covid, especially now. So telling someone that is lying.

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Company should not be telling people what to do, anyway. Anyone who w nts a vaccine can get a vaccine.

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It's weird that even when I'm like "if they are in violation of the company's policy it's appropriate to notify the boss" a few people still get mad at me because I advocate not hating the person.

Like even if they are in agreement with me about the appropriate action they are critical of me for not wanting to do it with hate a vitriol in my heart.

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The legislature does not have this authority. The Surgeon General is part of the military and has a fancy uniform. They all do. Have fancy uniforms and fancy powers.



Did you think he is cosplaying?

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CobraGT posted...

The legislature does not have this authority. The Surgeon General is part of the military and has a fancy uniform. They all do. Have fancy uniforms and fancy powers.

Why did you ignore the rest of my post? Pointing this out changes nothing I said.

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Tenlaar posted...

A person reporting genuinely dangerous behavior is not a problematic employee.

The problematic employee is the liar, the dramatic one is the snitch.

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guesswho33 posted...

Company should not be telling people what to do, anyway. Anyone who w nts a vaccine can get a vaccine.

Do you think companies don't tell people what to do every day? Would you be cool with a slacker breaking other rules at your work?

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hockeybub89 posted...

Do you think companies don't tell people what to do every day? Would you be cool with a slacker breaking other rules at your work?

eh it should really be illegal for a company to try to force health decisions. there are privacy laws.

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guesswho33 posted...

eh it should really be illegal for a company to try to force health decisions. there are privacy laws.

So colleges are "violating HIPAA" by requiring physicals and up-to-date vaccines? Do companies violate HIPAA by requiring employees to not smoke? The world would be deadly chaos if we actually made it illegal for anyone to be aware of anyone's health.

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hockeybub89 posted...

So colleges are "violating HIPAA" by requiring physicals and up-to-date vaccines? Do companies violate HIPAA by requiring employees to not smoke? The world would be deadly chaos if we actually made it illegal for anyone to be aware of anyone's health.

What colleges have you gone to that required a vaccine?

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Perascamin posted...

What colleges have you gone to that required a vaccine?

I had to get a physical and show them that I had vaccines like MMR. This was 15 years ago.

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Perascamin posted...

What colleges have you gone to that required a vaccine?

I had to get a meningitis vaccine before I went to college

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guesswho33 posted...

Company should not be telling people what to do, anyway. Anyone who w nts a vaccine can get a vaccine.

companies are required, by law, to provide a safe working environment for all employees.

and yes, companies literally tell employees what to do. that's, like, the definition of a job.

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hockeybub89 posted...

Do you think companies don't tell people what to do every day? Would you be cool with a slacker breaking other rules at your work?

companies should not tell people what to do in their free time only when on the clock, dont intrude on personal lives

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Yeah do it, at least its the least you could do so you can feel youre at least doing something by doing the least you could do

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Giant_Aspirin posted...

companies are required, by law, to provide a safe working environment for all employees.

and yes, companies literally tell employees what to do. that's, like, the definition of a job.

nah. they can't circumvent privacy laws.

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hockeybub89 posted...

I had to get a physical and show them that I had vaccines like MMR. This was 15 years ago.

I started school last year during peak shut down and I didn't have to submit any medical records or get a physical.

I'm not anti-vaxx and I've gotten my covid shots, but like literally a place of business(like a work place) can't force someone to get the covid shot or demand proof of it from the employees because if HIPPA.

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skermac posted...

companies should not tell people what to do in their free time only when on the clock, dont intrude on personal lives

Is there a vaccine that only exists within the body when someone is at work? I'm totally cool with people not being vaccinated while inside their house, but they need to turn it on at work.

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If it's policy yeah.

My company has an anonymous hotline to report something in good faith so seek that out if you can.

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Perascamin posted...

I started school last year during peak shut down and I didn't have to submit any medical records or get a physical.

I'm not anti-vaxx and I've gotten my covid shots, but like literally a place of business(like a work place) can't force someone to get the covid shot or demand proof of it from the employees because if HIPPA.

That is literally not true. Stop misusing HIPAA. You can't even spell it.

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So what other policy or law is it that prevents your place of business from accessing your private information without consent?

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Perascamin posted...

So what other policy or law is it that prevents your place of business from accessing your private information without consent?

There's a big difference between "accessing your info without your consent" and "requiring you to provide your info to them as a requirement of employment".


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Perascamin posted...

So what other policy or law is it that prevents your place of business from accessing your private information without consent?

No one is forcing you to provide that information. Parents are free to take their kids out of school and not let them participate in activities if they don't want to provide vaccine records and get yearly physicals.

Are airports violating HIPAA? Asking questions does not violate HIPAA. "They didn't consent to be asked if they consent" is such a stretch.

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