Current Events > Do people actually truly believe 1/6 was the darkest day in US History

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Or is that just an exaggeration? I would hope with all of the atrocities that have occurred within this country by people in this country, people really dont actually think that day is the worst

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No it isn't the darkest day in American history. But it is a pretty dark day in American History.

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Possibly the darkest day since 9/11

But 1/6 is insignificant compared to the Civil War and everything it entailed

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probably not worse than the start of secession, but the fact that it was instigated by the sitting president probably makes it a lot closer than it should be.

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The Popo posted...

Possibly the darkest day since 9/11

This
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Everyone exaggerates everything. By no measure was 1/6 the darkest day in US history. It was bad and stupid and we should all oppose it, but lets not get out of hand.

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You see in America they don't teach you actual history in school, so people have no reference for these things

the first time a sitting US president encouraged people to storm the US Capitol in an attempt to overturn a democratic election has substantially more gravity than stupid and bad

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It's the darkest day since the civil war for sure. Don't think anything except another civil war is gonna top the first one.

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Bananana posted...

the first time a sitting US president encouraged people to storm the US Capitol in an attempt to overturn a democratic election has substantially more gravity than stupid and bad

I think Id be more inclined to use stronger words if it had been more well organized and actually threatened to be successful. Dropping nuclear weapons on Japan was darker and had more gravity by any serious measure.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

It's the darkest day since the civil war for sure

9/11? Pearl harbor? JFK assassination? Cuban missile crisis?

It's not a bright day

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DeroIin posted...

Or is that just an exaggeration? I would hope with all of the atrocities that have occurred within this country by people in this country, people really dont actually think that day is the worst

Exaggeration by whom? What is your source that anybody has made this claim?

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Njolk posted...

9/11? Pearl harbor? JFK assassination? Cuban missile crisis?

9/11, pearl harbor, and JFK were all bad but didn't nearly kill the democracy of the country.

Cuban missile crisis was manufactured outrage. Behind the scenes it was resolved calmly and secretly with mundane diplomacy and was never a crisis at all.

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Njolk posted...

9/11? Pearl harbor? JFK assassination? Cuban missile crisis?

way worse than an outside power attacking us, absolutely. the presidential assassinations (& attempts) are up there, though, sure.

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Its up there. People shouldnt be taking it lightly. A large group of traitors stormed our capital, waving a traitorous flag and attempted to overthrow our government and kill politicians so they could essentially make Donald Trump king, which goes against everything the founding fathers would have wanted.

it wasnt a small light event that just came and went. It should not be treated lightly.

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It's the day a communist stole the country from patriots. /dumb crap MAGAs believe.

It has the potential to be the 'beginning of the end' moment in terms of the United States failing as a nation. The next 5-10 years will determine whether or not we can actually correct that course.

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Not being the darkest day does not mean it wasn't a dark day. A president had people commit a terrorist attack against the state capitol because he couldn't accept his defeat. He wanted people to die, that's why he delayed help when the people under attack asked for it.

And he IS responsible for it. He wasn't moved to a secure location, as a president would during these scenarios. Almost as if he knew he wasn't in danger....

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January 21, 2010 is the darkest day in US History.

There was a shooting in San Jose that killed 10 people a couple of weeks ago. That's pretty dark. Hell, there's been so many shootings in the US in the last year alone.

Even in terms of domestic terrorism it's probably not even top 10.

Remember things like the Oklahoma City bombing where women and children were killed.


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Well yes, other domestic terrorism attacks were dark and worse in terms of death count, but if were talking merely threats to the US as a nation, and the potential for the country to fall, this event beats all that. It lit the fuse on something still active. Republicans refuse to acknowledge it or do anything about it. The traitors werent shut down and stopped. They were just placed behind the curtain for later.

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The darkest day in modern times is probably that las vegas shooting in 2017 that killed 58 people.

Edit: Injured 700 as well. Damn

For some reason, we still haven't thrown a bunch of Congresspeople in jail yet over 1/6.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

9/11, pearl harbor, and JFK were all bad but didn't nearly kill the democracy of the country.

if you think a bunch of unarmed ignorant red neck wannabe morons almost killed democracy I think youre really reaching out there man. I quote unarmed because for people who had intentions of overthrowing democracy they sure came light handed and thankfully so.

and as soon as someone got rightfully popped, that insurrection ended real fast. The LARPERS tucked their tail between their legs and scurried off.

and to answer the question - not the darkest, most certainly the most embarrassing.


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hockeybub89 posted...

For some reason, we still haven't thrown a bunch of Congresspeople in jail yet over 1/6.

Or the person who literally incited a crowd and told them to go to the capitol.

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chrono625 posted...

if you think a bunch of unarmed ignorant red neck wannabe morons almost killed democracy I think youre really reaching out there man. I quote unarmed because for people who had intentions of overthrowing democracy they sure came light handed and thankfully so.

and as soon as someone got rightfully popped, that insurrection ended real fast. The LARPERS tucked their tail between their legs and scurried off.

and to answer the question - not the darkest, most certainly the most embarrassing.

They are all terrorists and should be imprisoned for a minimum of 5-10 years. Every congressperson that spoke support for them or egged it on should also be arrested and permanently banned from politics.

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9/11 or Pearl Harbor tbqh...

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The Popo posted...

Possibly the darkest day since 9/11

But 1/6 is insignificant compared to the Civil War and everything it entailed

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The people downplaying 9/11 ITT must not have been alive back then or had memory from back then.

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chrono625 posted...

if you think a bunch of unarmed ignorant red neck wannabe morons almost killed democracy I think youre really reaching out there man. I quote unarmed because for people who had intentions of overthrowing democracy they sure came light handed and thankfully so.

and as soon as someone got rightfully popped, that insurrection ended real fast. The LARPERS tucked their tail between their legs and scurried off.

and to answer the question - not the darkest, most certainly the most embarrassing.

Those rednecks came closer to killing our democracy than Lee Harvey Oswald did.

It's hard to fully grasp just how bad shit could have gotten and even how bad the shit that did happen was. For hundreds of years the term limits of the president have normalized a peaceful transition of power. We see that eroding in places like Russia and China now who both just passed methods to remain in power for life. Things always get worse after that, not better.

Even during the civil war the South threw a fit but Buchanan made no attempt to prevent Lincoln from assuming the office. 1/6 is the first time in history when this suddenly came under question. We had just taken it for granted before.

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AloneIBreak posted...

Everyone exaggerates everything. By no measure was 1/6 the darkest day in US history. It was bad and stupid and we should all oppose it, but lets not get out of hand.

This. It was a failure that was bound to fail, and as a liberal, I'm glad it happened because it made the Far Right look even more like a bunch of complete loonies.

garan posted...

This. It was a failure that was bound to fail, and as a liberal, I'm glad it happened because it made the Far Right look even more like a bunch of complete loonies.

It has given them power since no one is punishing those who pushed for it and who are still pushing for it.

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The Popo posted...

Possibly the darkest day since 9/11

But 1/6 is insignificant compared to the Civil War and everything it entailed

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Hm I'd say that in modern history (2010s-) I'd go as far as to say Sandy Hook was a darker day due to its intense tragedy. That being said it was a very, very dark day that cannot be ignored or downplayed.

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chrono625 posted...

and to answer the question - not the darkest, most certainly the most embarrassing.

/end topic

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The implications and potential outcomes are some of the darkest, but it was a gaggle of buffoons who actually went for the most part. If it had been a guided effort to actually kidnap or kill the politicians, it could have been horrific.

Njolk posted...

9/11? Pearl harbor? JFK assassination? Cuban missile crisis?

Uh oh. Here we go....

None of the events you mentioned were planned, organized and directed by a sitting U.S. president.

Jesus, we need to increase school funding in this country.

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Damn_Underscore posted...

The people downplaying 9/11 ITT must not have been alive back then or had memory from back then.

Lol this. On 1/6, I still worked a full day, business as usual. It may have hurt my productivity a bit, but no more than E3 usually does. On 9/11, we had no idea if there were more attacks coming or not. It was scary.

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When I think of all the other dark days this country has had I mostly just wonder why anyone has even the slightest amount of severance for this country at all. Just so much filth runs through this nation. Just screw it who cares.

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brestugo posted...

Uh oh. Here we go....

None of the events you mentioned were planned, organized and directed by a sitting U.S. president.

Jesus, we need to increase school funding in this country.

Fair point but the belief that 9/11 is a lot worse than 1/6 isn't a weird or strange opinion to have, and certainly no rational person could chalk that opinion up to lack of education.

We watched 3,000 people die on live TV, but at least the president didn't plan it.


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It was definitely up there but I cant put it as a darker cloud over sandy hook. That tragedy still breaks my heart to this day.

EndOfDiscOne posted...

Lol this. On 1/6, I still worked a full day, business as usual. It may have hurt my productivity a bit, but no more than E3 usually does. On 9/11, we had no idea if there were more attacks coming or not. It was scary.

and I didnt even touch on this - 9/11 killed over 3k people that day and possibly thousands more due to the after math of the attacks. Grief, depression and sickness took many lives well after that day.

9/11 is definitely a top 5 dark moment in US history and if anyone thinks 1/6 was worse, they werent alive to see or feel the effects it had on the country.

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Phantom36 posted...

Fair point but the belief that 9/11 is a lot worse than 1/6 isn't a weird or strange opinion to have, and certainly no rational person could chalk that opinion up to lack of education.

We watched 3,000 people die on live TV, but at least the president didn't plan it.

Some of the people who did 1/6 probably believe a President planned 9/11.

ButteryMales posted...

Some of the people who did 1/6 probably believe a President planned 9/11.

I had that exact thought enter my head as soon as I posted that. >.>

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chrono625 posted...

and I didnt even touch on this - 9/11 killed over 3k people that day and possibly thousands more due to the after math of the attacks. Grief, depression and sickness took many lives well after that day.

9/11 is definitely a top 5 dark moment in US history and if anyone thinks 1/6 was worse, they werent alive to see or feel the effects it had on the country.

Americans didn't plan 9/11. And I was alive then. Watched Navy jets scramble from Cape Cod NAS to fly air cover for NYC and beyond. There are foreigners all over who wish to materially harm the U.S. Not a new thing.

1/6 (2021 so I don't get sealioned) was the first time I saw a president do it. That's a new thing.

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OP is the type of person who would probably say people suffering from depression or other ailments don't have it so bad because other people are suffering in the slums of India or whatever.

"It wasn't the darkest day in US history, it isn't that bad."

It doesn't have to be the absolute worst thing ever to be pretty fucked up and something we should consider rectifying.

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