Current Events > Chick-fil-A under fire as profits are being used to push anti-trans state laws

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kelemvor posted...

Meanwhile, most people turn a blind eye to the corporations exploiting Chinese labor and propping up authoritarian dictators to fatten up their bottom line like Apple and Google.

Didnt know people couldnt be outraged about one thing at a time.
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Remember when Whoopi Goldberg was supposed to boycott them but she couldn't not eat a chicken sandwich?

creativerealms posted...

They are also making it harder to transition. Now no one believes that surgery should be done to a minor, that should wait for adulthood but puberty blockers and hormone theropy that is safe and reversable for a vast majority of people (its risk of severe side effects is no worse then the normal meds many kids take) and should not be made unavailable to people who may want to transition yet some states also try to ban that. Countries have banned that.

Yeah that definitely isn't ok and has a much farther reaching effect than sports and bathrooms. Fair point.


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kelemvor posted...

Meanwhile, most people turn a blind eye to the corporations exploiting Chinese labor and propping up authoritarian dictators to fatten up their bottom line like Apple and Google.

Ok, so why do you do these things then? Do you have moral superiority by accepting it all? Such a weird argument every time people bring it up.

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They do be making some good chicken tho.

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Man I love Chick Fil A. Might need to get some for lunch today.

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jdb78 posted...

Remember when Whoopi Goldberg was supposed to boycott them but she couldn't not eat a chicken sandwich?

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Thats what I thought. Sit down.

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Flauros posted...

I wish they would open more locations. There are like 5 in my state total and the lines are always redonk.

I like their CFA sauce. Its like a really dank honey mustard

Wal-Mart sells a knockoff "chicken dipping sauce" that tastes exactly like cfa sauce.

Also I started eating there after they promised to stop, but now it's just boycott forever.


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Conflict posted...

There's a reason nobody acknowledged your stupid ass appeal-to-bigger-problems fallacious post, don't actually delude yourself into thinking you won a debate or something.

Rofl

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Conflict posted...

This is one dumbass post lmao. Not that that's particularly unusual for you

There's a reason nobody acknowledged your stupid ass appeal-to-bigger-problems fallacious post, don't actually delude yourself into thinking you won a debate or something.

Calling someone's posts stupid isn't exactly a debate tactic you know. It's just you acting in bad faith.

Now go cry some tears because Chick Fil A gave some money to a group fighting a mostly lost cause

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So are all these people reminding us of bigger problems boycotting all major corporations and actively protesting whatever country they live in?

Or are they telling us they are ok with all the evil in the world while chastising others for not doing enough?

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hockeybub89 posted...

So are all these people reminding us of bigger problems boycotting all major corporations and actively protesting whatever country they live in?

Or are they telling us they are ok with all the evil in the world while chastising others for not doing enough?

I cant speak for others, but to this predictable response, the obviously reply is no, Im not out protesting, but thats beside the point because Im not the one acting all haughty towards others because of what fast food I eat. My only point is the progressives act all moral, but they really have no serious basis on which to do so. If I were a better person, Id attend more protests, but Im not. The difference is that I shut the fuck up about it and dont fancy myself better than my less progressive peers.

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The owner is a POS.

Fortunately, there are other chicken places.

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Whoa, it's as if they lied.

I'll continue not buying from them, regardless of what they say or do.

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Conflict posted...

I mean it's kinda sad that you need someone to explain to you why being dismissive of discrimination because "the company provides benefits to their employees when most fast food restaurants don't" is monumentally stupid.

That is nowhere near the point being made. I'm saying you need to keep more than one thing in mind when praising or condemning a company. Believe it or not, but damn near every single company has major moral failings. Chick Fil A is one company that treats their employees ethically.

Or do you think McDonalds is an amazing company because they treat their workers like garbage and pay lobbyists to keep the minimum wage low, but they did change their logo to the rainbow colors for the month of June so let's all give them a pass lol

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TommyG663513 posted...

That is nowhere near the point being made. I'm saying you need to keep more than one thing in mind when praising or condemning a company. Believe it or not, but damn near every single company has major moral failings. Chick Fil A is one company that treats their employees ethically.

Or do you think McDonalds is an amazing company because they treat their workers like garbage and pay lobbyists to keep the minimum wage low, but they did change their logo to the rainbow colors for the month of June so let's all give them a pass lol

Sounds like both McDonald's and Chick-fil-A are failures

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hockeybub89 posted...

So are all these people reminding us of bigger problems boycotting all major corporations and actively protesting whatever country they live in?

Or are they telling us they are ok with all the evil in the world while chastising others for not doing enough?

@hockeybub89

Can you inform me of what companies actually behave ethically in all manners? Can you also explain what data we have to show that boycotts actually work?

Because from where I'm standing damn near no companies behave all that ethically and boycotts show little effectiveness.

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AloneIBreak posted...

I cant speak for others, but to this predictable response, the obviously reply is no, Im not out protesting, but thats beside the point because Im not the one acting all haughty towards others because of what fast food I eat. My only point is the progressives act all moral, but they really have no serious basis on which to do so. If I were a better person, Id attend more protests, but Im not. The difference is that I shut the fuck up about it and dont fancy myself better than my less progressive peers.

"I'm morally superior because at least I consistently have no morals."

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hockeybub89 posted...

Sounds like both McDonald's and Chick-fil-A are failures

Can you name a company that is a success?

I'm not against saying that all companies are garbage, but that requires you easing off of Chick Fil A slightly by saying "well they all suck, I guess I can't eat food from anywhere. Better go shop at target, Walmart..... Oh wait....."

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hockeybub89 posted...

"I'm morally superior because at least I consistently have no morals."

That is a dramatic oversimplification

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TommyG663513 posted...

@hockeybub89

Can you inform me of what companies actually behave ethically in all manners? Can you also explain what data we have to show that boycotts actually work?

Because from where I'm standing damn near no companies behave all that ethically and boycotts show little effectiveness.

Then we need to try something else. So tired of the big brain "The world is terrible and no one can do anything about it, so accept it" nihilist takes. Picking no causes is not more admirable than picking a few causes that aren't literally the most important in the world.

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TommyG663513 posted...

Can you name a company that is a success?

I'm not against saying that all companies are garbage, but that requires you easing off of Chick Fil A slightly by saying "well they all suck, I guess I can't eat food from anywhere. Better go shop at target, Walmart..... Oh wait....."

I ate at CFA earlier this week. I don't think boycotts work, but I respect people's moral choices to do so. I don't get some smug satisfaction from pointing out that they are posting that they have stopped going to Chick-fil-A or Starbucks from a smartphone made of parts built in China.

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I feel sorry for the liberal conspiracy theorists ( yes conspiracy theorists, there is no proof of this) that have to drive by crowded ass Chick-fil-a's on their way to work every day and see them rake in 10s of thousands of dollars daily.

Lol jk who am I kidding they don't have jobs. Though come September when the extra 300 runs out they'll be taking my order.

Say it with me, "my pleasure".

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yemmy posted...

I feel sorry for the liberal conspiracy theorists ( yes conspiracy theorists, there is no proof of this) that have to drive by crowded ass Chick-fil-a's on their way to work every day and see them rake in 10s of thousands of dollars daily.

Lol jk who am I kidding they don't have jobs. Though come September when the extra 300 runs out they'll be taking my order.

Say it with me, "my pleasure".

But I heard liberals have taken over the world? Now they're all broke and unemployed?

Weird to hear of what the people in charge of CFA support and going "haha I bet that triggers 'the liberals'"

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hockeybub89 posted...

"I'm morally superior because at least I consistently have no morals."

Youre not morally superior does not imply that I am. Please work on your logic when you get a chance.

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Topic's not great

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hockeybub89 posted...

But I heard liberals have taken over the world? Now they're all broke and unemployed?

Just the conspiracy theorists following the "dark money". I firmly believe there are normal liberals out there.

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AloneIBreak posted...

Youre not morally superior does not imply that I am. Please work on your logic when you get a chance.

Then shut the fuck up. No one likes devil's advocates and enlightened centrists.

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hockeybub89 posted...

Then shut the fuck up. No one likes devil's advocates and enlightened centrists.

Lol his argument has been reduced to telling me to shut up and that nobody likes me. Game over.

Also, Im not a centrist. Fail more.

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yemmy posted...

I feel sorry for the liberal conspiracy theorists ( yes conspiracy theorists, there is no proof of this) that have to drive by crowded ass Chick-fil-a's on their way to work every day and see them rake in 10s of thousands of dollars daily.

Lol jk who am I kidding they don't have jobs. Though come September when the extra 300 runs out they'll be taking my order.

Say it with me, "my pleasure".

I don't think it's possible for me to cringe any harder at this post. You're probably in your mid 30s still going through some edgy teenager phase

Conflict posted...

Again, you're deflecting

This conversation isn't about McDonald's. When there's a topic about how poorly McDonald's treats their customers, then you can rant about that all you want. You just want to deflect because you personally don't give a shit about discrimination against transgender people.

No I absolutely do care about discrimination against Transgenders. If you think I don't at all then you haven't actually paid attention to anything I've said in this topic at all.

The point is that ultimately no companies are acting ethically on the whole and why should I be so particularly upset with Chick Fil A and give a bunch of other companies a pass because they fly the rainbow colors?

Which is more difficult for a company to do? Pay their workers well or fly rainbow colors?

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Badmotorfinger posted...

I don't think it's possible for me to cringe any harder at this post. You're probably in your mid 30s still going through some edgy teenager phase

i thought it was funny

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hockeybub89 posted...

I ate at CFA earlier this week. I don't think boycotts work, but I respect people's moral choices to do so. I don't get some smug satisfaction from pointing out that they are posting that they have stopped going to Chick-fil-A or Starbucks from a smartphone made of parts built in China.

Ok so it actually sounds like you get my point then.

Is there a company out there that behaves ethically on all fronts? It seems really difficult to come by. Again, I am posting this on my cell phone paid for by slave labor in China. Then I'm going to search for ethical companies on my same slave labor from China phone.

The reality is that avoiding companies that behave unethically is like walking through a minefield. You're better off just consuming products that you personally enjoy than anything else.

I mean, damn even by virtue of living in America you're kind of benefitting off of unethical behavior from this countries past. There really is no avoiding it.

A good comparison would be like personal responsibility for environmentalism. Yeah you should try and do your part, but the problem is way beyond any one individual and their choices to the point that it means very little on its own.


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Conflict posted...

Bro you're still deflecting lmao

Nobody is telling you to give other companies a pass. You're consistently dismissing this issue because "they treat their employees well". Just admit you don't give a shit and we can just end the discussion there.

You're just playing the straw man game.

You on a smart phone right now? Just admit you don't care about Chinese kids.

You eat factory farmed food? Just admit that you don't care about the environment.

The point is that ultimately no company behaves ethically.

Yeah what Chick Fil A donates their money to is garbage focus on the family type stuff. It is terrible. Doesn't change the fact that zooming in on them and ignoring everything else is cherry picking morality.

What other companies do you support?

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If a restaurant makes food that tastes good I will continue buying their product.

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Conflict posted...

None of these make any sense. Now you're just going into "you participate in society" fallacy territory.

You don't care because you're repeatedly dismissing the issue and stating that it's not worth discussing because Chik Fil A provides their employees with benefits. That's what I'm basing that statement on.

You understand now?

You keep fighting that straw man battle. Good luck with that.

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Ive ate at chick-fil-a twice and both times it was average af.

wheres all the crazy love for this place come from? Its the same with In-and-out. Foods super average and both places have long ass wait times.


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Conflict posted...

Probably shouldn't take UnfairRepresent classes on how to misuse a term wildly.

Wouldn't UR be exactly who you should take those classes from?

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What do I win for caring about all of the unethical things done by companies and nations mentioned in this topic?

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TommyG663513 posted...

You keep fighting that straw man battle. Good luck with that.

Could you please learn how to argue

please

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"There's no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism" is not meant as license to consume without care.

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Intro2Logic posted...

"There's no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism" is not meant as license to consume without care.

No it means you work on dismantling capitalism, because picking and choosing what businesses you deem ethical just isn't going to work.

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