Poll of the Day > Why do people say that Bill Maher is an idiot?

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thedeerzord
05/27/21 12:45:08 PM
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He's pretty spot on about a lot of things, and he explains everything with and through common sense.

Its also the reason why I like him, he has common sense.


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papercup
05/27/21 12:48:04 PM
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Because he's an idiot that buys into pseudoscience and woo?

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DirtBasedSoap
05/27/21 12:50:32 PM
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papercup posted...
Because he's an idiot


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thedeerzord
05/27/21 12:52:15 PM
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papercup posted...
Because he's an idiot that buys into pseudoscience and woo?
Could you explain this?

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Metalsonic66
05/27/21 12:56:35 PM
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I like Maher sometimes but I generally prefer Oliver.

Maher is like Hannity in some ways

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JigsawTDC
05/27/21 1:04:07 PM
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How anyone could watch Bill Maher and NOT come to the conclusion that he's an idiot is baffling to me.
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Yellow
05/27/21 1:06:57 PM
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Not much except maybe he's kind of dated for a Democrat. Blue no matter who kind of guy.

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ReturnOfFa
05/27/21 1:07:46 PM
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https://youtu.be/1tzT-E3GWmc

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ReturnOfFa
05/27/21 1:09:31 PM
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thedeerzord posted...
Could you explain this?
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bill_Maher

A lot of leftists aren't into people who largely act out of self-interest, but profess ideals positioning themselves as trying to help the common man.

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ReturnOfFa
05/27/21 1:12:27 PM
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He's not 'the worst', but he's a snarky useless rich guy who can't decide between being a political commentator and a comedian. Does some stupid scaremongering about vaccines and other pharmaceuticals, even though the pharmaceutical industry does deserve the ire of the public - just more focused and specific. Fighting for lower cost access to necessary medications (epi-pens, insulin) is way smarter than blanket-scare statements about Big Pharma, although of course that kind of puffy fluffy nonsense will rack of views. I don't find his point of view all that unique or stimulating, he strikes me as a classic liberal, and not very progressive, something I desire. If you're going to be a contrarian, please at least go full comedian instead of trying to act smart.

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thedeerzord
05/27/21 1:20:53 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
He's not 'the worst', but he's a snarky useless rich guy who can't decide between being a political commentator and a comedian. Does some stupid scaremongering about vaccines and other pharmaceuticals, even though the pharmaceutical industry does deserve the ire of the public - just more focused and specific. Fighting for lower cost access to necessary medications (epi-pens, insulin) is way smarter than blanket-scare statements about Big Pharma, although of course that kind of puffy fluffy nonsense will rack of views. I don't find his point of view all that unique or stimulating, he strikes me as a classic liberal, and not very progressive, something I desire. If you're going to be a contrarian, please at least go full comedian instead of trying to act smart.
But he is right about a lot of things, especially with his "Cryptomania" and "Losing to China" New Rules.

You cannot deny this at all.

Sure he's wrong on some things. Who isn't?


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ReturnOfFa
05/27/21 1:26:34 PM
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thedeerzord posted...
But he is right about a lot of things, especially with his "Cryptomania" and "Losing to China" New Rules.

You cannot deny this at all.

Sure he's wrong on some things. Who isn't?
So? I agree with him on lots of things, like gay rights, gun control etc. The important part of political discussion is parsing the details. If we're not allowed to disagree on details, we just blindly follow some leader's blanket policies, good and bad?

I'm partway through the Cryptomania video and I'm probably with him, and the Losing to China one....I don't like the framing. OK points, but framing anything between the USA and China as a competition of winning vs. losing is very pointless in my eyes.

I like discussing things and I indicated why I don't like Bill Maher. Do you agree with those assessments at all? I know you said "but", but what do you think of what I said? I do my best to admit when I'm wrong on details in discussions, but I rarely encounter that from people I'm trying to discuss things with. They seem to prefer towing the line of some celebrity or politician and endorsing all of their ideas blindly.

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ReturnOfFa
05/27/21 1:28:53 PM
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Like, Bill Maher's entire career was built on arguing about the details. I'd gladly go into it with him on vaccines...although I'd want my sister with me as backup LOL (she's an ER nurse and very articulate).

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thedeerzord
05/27/21 1:36:08 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
Losing to China one....I don't like the framing.
The framing is that Americans are a silly people, and because of this. The 21st century will be China's century, not America's or anyone elses.


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ReturnOfFa
05/27/21 1:39:24 PM
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thedeerzord posted...
The framing is that Americans are a silly people, and because of this. The 21st century will be China's century, not America's or anyone elses.
Right, and that's extremely basic commentary that scares plebeians and enriches Bill.

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ParanoidObsessive
05/27/21 1:41:11 PM
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thedeerzord posted...
He's pretty spot on about a lot of things

He's really not.



thedeerzord posted...
Its also the reason why I like him, he has common sense.

This says more about you than it does him.



ReturnOfFa posted...
A lot of leftists aren't into people who largely act out of self-interest, but profess ideals positioning themselves as trying to help the common man.

Which is funny, because that describes about 90% of the Left.
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ReturnOfFa
05/27/21 1:42:57 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
He's really not.

This says more about you than it does him.

Which is funny, because that describes about 90% of the Left.
Oh, absolutely.

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Firewood18
05/27/21 1:44:48 PM
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Maher isnt too bad. He tries to play to both sides which is hard to pull off.
His writers are atrocious though. They recently blatantly ripped off a Doug Stanhope bit for one of Bills monologues.

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streamofthesky
05/27/21 2:10:46 PM
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He's overall pretty moderate in his views, and correct for the most part, with a few glaring exceptions like the anti-vax shit (and even that list is overblown, like... even if genetically modified food is no big deal, WTF is the problem w/ putting that on the label?).
But horseshoe theory is real, and he pisses off the most rabid extremists on both the far left and far right, so the amount of hate he gets online gets magnified a lot.
It's unfortunate, but the amount of unhinged illogical bashing from both sides basically just confirms he's overall pretty reasonable.
Also, being smug/snarky is part of his act (whether it's his actual real life personality or just act, he obviously is playing it up as his "character"), so that just makes any position he has that you disagree with feel more grating.
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Metalsonic66
05/27/21 2:10:51 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Which is funny, because that describes about 90% of the Left.
And about 97% of the right

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IronBornCorps
05/27/21 2:15:24 PM
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I didn't know he had a take on the crypto market. I might look into that, I could use a laugh. Watching out of touch figures trying to explain things they don't understand is usually amusing.
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thedeerzord
05/27/21 2:18:52 PM
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IronBornCorps posted...
I didn't know he had a take on the crypto market. I might look into that, I could use a laugh. Watching out of touch figures trying to explain things they don't understand is usually amusing.
Let me know when you watch it...

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agesboy
05/27/21 2:20:32 PM
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he whines about cancel culture constantly, and he's an antivaxxer

he regularly seeks out and invites people with shitty viewpoints to come onto his show, like sharon osbourne right after she got fired from the view

his views on pseudoscience puts him the same camp as dr oz and oprah

streamofthesky posted...
It's unfortunate, but the amount of unhinged illogical bashing from both sides basically just confirms he's overall pretty reasonable.
"people don't like him so obviously it means he's correct" is one of the most lunatic hot takes you can have

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thedeerzord
05/27/21 2:23:26 PM
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agesboy posted...
he whines about cancel culture constantly
For good reason...

agesboy posted...
and he's an antivaxxer
Source?


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streamofthesky
05/27/21 2:24:35 PM
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agesboy posted...
"crazy people don't like him so obviously it means he's correct"
Fixed.
When the vast majority of the dog-piling is from warmongering neocons, woke twitter, the religious right, etc... that's a pretty good sign to anyone not in those camps.
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Archgoat
05/27/21 2:28:30 PM
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I agree, I tend to agree with him most of the time. I think some of his vaccine views (even prior to the current one) are off base and sometimes wish he would call out the right on their hypocrisy about cancel culture a bit more. Most of the time I think he spot on, sometimes he is kind of old man view about things as well. I don't have to agree with everything he says.
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agesboy
05/27/21 2:39:48 PM
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thedeerzord posted...
For good reason...
everyone who whines about cancel culture just really wants to say racist and bigoted shit and continue to get away with it like they have been due to america being tolerant of racism and bigotry

remember that time a few years ago when bill maher straight out fucking said the n word on live television? his audience doesn't hold him to any kind of standard so he got away with it. cancel culture literally doesn't exist, it's just that people aren't obligated to support you if you are a terrible person

maher's crowd is a bunch of terrible people themselves so of course nothing of consequence happened to him. most people who say terrible things are trying to appeal to everyone and don't realize this, though

thedeerzord posted...
Source?
are you literally unaware that he's against vaccinating children because of unsupported fears of vaccinations causing autism? that is practically a textbook definition of being an antivaxxer

are you actually ignorant to the point where you need a source handfed to you

because he is very loud about this

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ReturnOfFa
05/27/21 2:47:13 PM
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Complaining about cancel culture is a bogeyman.

https://youtu.be/cUz68EdLb0c

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ReturnOfFa
05/27/21 2:48:01 PM
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agesboy posted...
everyone who whines about cancel culture just really wants to say racist and bigoted shit and continue to get away with it like they have been due to america being tolerant of racism and bigotry

remember that time a few years ago when bill maher straight out fucking said the n word on live television? his audience doesn't hold him to any kind of standard so he got away with it. cancel culture literally doesn't exist, it's just that people aren't obligated to support you if you are a terrible person

maher's crowd is a bunch of terrible people themselves so of course nothing of consequence happened to him. most people who say terrible things are trying to appeal to everyone and don't realize this, though

are you literally unaware that he's against vaccinating children because of unsupported fears of vaccinations causing autism? that is practically a textbook definition of being an antivaxxer

are you actually ignorant to the point where you need a source handfed to you

because he is very loud about this
I love Bill Maher but I not enough to type in his name + two more words!

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IronBornCorps
05/27/21 3:12:21 PM
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thedeerzord posted...
Let me know when you watch it...

I started to watch it, didn't get through all of it, it was exactly as expected. A boomer take with all the usual talking points. It's not real, DOGE is a joke so they are all a joke.

I personally liked "I've had it explained it to me, and I still don't understand it, and you don't either!". Like ok...

His take on PoW mining wasn't wrong, it pretty much is a bunch of computers playing pick a number.

I know I can be a bit of an evangelist with it at times, but it's really just another tool. He is totally incorrect that various projects don't provide assets or services. It isn't something that is going to magically fix all the financial issues we have. In fact financial services is but one use case.

Without hype or frills, Blockchain technology is an alternative to centralized servers and cloud platforms like AWS and Azure. It has yet to reach true viability as a competitor due to scaling issues, but solutions to those issues are on the horizon (with bugs and delays I'm sure).

I think it's always funny how people say the digital asset isn't "real" though. Like is an email not real too? or that digital game you bought? How much of your money is "real" when so many people just get direct deposit and use a card anyway?
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
05/28/21 4:38:48 PM
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agesboy posted...
remember that time a few years ago when bill maher straight out fucking said the n word on live television?
As a black man I didnt care.

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SaltyAndSweet
05/28/21 5:15:35 PM
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Probably because Bill Maher is an idiot

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thedeerzord
05/28/21 9:57:36 PM
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SaltyAndSweet posted...
Probably because Bill Maher is an idiot
Everyone has the capacity to be an idiot.

He might be an idtiot, but then again so is everyone.

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SaltyAndSweet
05/28/21 9:58:16 PM
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thedeerzord posted...
Everyone has the capacity to be an idiot.

Especially Bill Maher!

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thedeerzord
05/28/21 9:59:10 PM
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SaltyAndSweet posted...
Especially Bill Maher!
Ok?

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SaltyAndSweet
05/28/21 10:01:37 PM
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thedeerzord posted...
Ok?

Ok!

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thedeerzord
05/28/21 10:08:34 PM
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SaltyAndSweet posted...
Ok!
Oh wait.

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streamofthesky
05/28/21 10:13:21 PM
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SaltyAndSweet posted...
Probably because Bill Maher is an idiot
I'm seeing a whole lot of Salty, not a shred of Sweet
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Lokarin
05/28/21 11:41:48 PM
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Most recently because Bill Maher is being an anti-vaxxer

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OhhhJa
05/29/21 12:03:08 AM
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Bill Maher looks like Beetlejuice when he morphed into the serpent in the movie
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SaltyAndSweet
05/29/21 12:08:02 AM
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thedeerzord posted...
Oh wait.

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dont act like you arent jealous of the RAREST BIRTHDAY

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streamofthesky
05/29/21 12:22:22 AM
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SaltyAndSweet posted...
I gave your mom a whole load of salty
It's ok, maybe someday you'll be able to do it w/o crying.

So, you're Mead?
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SaltyAndSweet
05/29/21 12:47:54 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
maybe someday you'll be able to do it w/o crying.

I wouldnt bet on it

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ReturnOfFa
05/29/21 1:04:07 AM
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Run of the Mill Baher!

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