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_stingers_
07/16/21 10:40:20 AM
#353:


Fair enough, but intelligence services, ie.Lechter was still fresh on my mind

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Leonhart4
07/16/21 10:41:56 AM
#354:


Yeah, I guess you could argue Wazy is a spy or something because he also makes it clear he's not from Crossbell.

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_stingers_
07/17/21 10:18:43 AM
#355:


Oh man, the boss at floor 5 of the old schoolhouse kicked my ass. I had to go grind everyone 2 levels and still just barely won. It was some like big ice dragon thing that can freeze people constantly

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xp1337
07/17/21 10:24:09 AM
#356:


yeah CS1 has some potentially annoying bosses around that part of the game if you aren't blocking their status effects.

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_stingers_
07/18/21 12:09:47 AM
#357:


yeah I had another rough one in laura's home town castle against a spooky skeleton, that one took me a few tries but it wasn't as bad as that ice dragon.

i'm up to the cold open part 2. I am glad shit is getting real / meeting up with crossbell now :) but I know I still have a ways to go before I see everything that I saw in azure

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xp1337
07/18/21 12:24:08 PM
#358:


That's the one I had in mind specifically lol. Wasn't sure if you would have wanted any tips like "You might want Sleep/Nightmare protection soon" so I opted on the safe side and didn't get that specific.

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_stingers_
07/18/21 1:58:18 PM
#359:


Floor 6 of the schoolhouse was then pathetically easy. The real hard fight was the 1-on-1 with Angelica. I had to retry like 10 times before she didn't just one shot me with her s craft

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_stingers_
07/18/21 3:26:00 PM
#360:


I really hate how they unequip all of your other party members when you start a field study. I already have everyone's equipment where I want it, it's just annoying having to go reequip everyone later

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MZero
07/19/21 1:17:30 AM
#361:


I just realized you can disable support crafts you don't want them to use. Somehow never noticed that before

Just got Randy back and I'm at the point where I don't want to leave anyone on the bench. Tough choices have to be made

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MZero
07/19/21 5:54:16 AM
#362:


Noel redemption arc was pretty good

That fight against Zack at Mishelem right before the mansion was such a pain. I had to spam those items that increase your burst meter to beat it

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_stingers_
07/19/21 7:14:03 AM
#363:


O-hohoho incoming

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MZero
07/19/21 9:28:56 AM
#364:



:|

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_stingers_
07/19/21 9:32:31 AM
#365:


I don't see Elie on your team, that's your problem

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MZero
07/19/21 9:45:26 AM
#366:


Elie isn't even available for this battle!

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_stingers_
07/19/21 9:47:13 AM
#367:


That might explain it

Where in the story was this one? I don't remember that fight to be honest. Generally you just want to spam your strongest map wide spell with Tio and pray against those multi enemy fights

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MZero
07/19/21 9:50:27 AM
#368:


_stingers_ posted...
That might explain it

Where in the story was this one? I don't remember that fight to be honest. Generally you just want to spam your strongest map wide spell with Tio and pray against those multi enemy fights

This is when you first enter the mansion on Mishelem, so you probably get Elie right after this

It starts with just two of them but he keeps summoning more/resummoning if they die

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_stingers_
07/19/21 10:11:03 AM
#369:


Oh yeah now I remember. Yeah that one was actually tough. You want to just focus the main boss down and spam stealth if you can

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MZero
07/19/21 10:19:12 AM
#370:


Victory!

I equipped Randy and Rixia with the arts canceling quartz and gave Wazy enough Water to get the all-enemies water attack which I used whenever he got 2 mobs out. Then I just had the other 3 bait them while Wazy took them out and attacked the boss when I could. It just gets out of control when he gets 5 or 6 of those things out there lmao

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_stingers_
07/19/21 7:15:27 PM
#371:


Holy shit I've never laughed at a game harder in my life then when Rean is talking to Crow in Alisa's house about the costumes and Crow had written "show dem titties" in his notes

That was so fucking unexpected. Anyone who ever complained about the crossbell fan translations being too memey has absolutely no leg to stand on after what I just saw

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NFUN
07/19/21 7:25:30 PM
#372:


https://sonicmega.tumblr.com/post/150519010861/there-are-many-lines-of-dialogue-rean-didnt-get

somebody in CS3 literally says "normie" so like, the shark was jumped years ago

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MZero
07/20/21 3:23:07 AM
#373:


Wow I thought for sure you were supposed to lose this Campanella fight

The fact that he can turn me into a pepper or whatever when I have a Grail Locket equipped is bogus tbh

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_stingers_
07/20/21 6:24:48 AM
#374:


His name is Campanella the fool, what do you expect

Also thank you so much NFUN for letting me hear Rean say Show dem titties

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_stingers_
07/20/21 6:26:06 AM
#375:


Also I love that his scraft is the imitation salt pale. I hope cold steel ends up getting into what that thing is all about

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MZero
07/20/21 8:29:18 AM
#376:


It doesn't make sense. If I use an item or spell that cures "all status effects" it cures the pepper effect but Grail Locket stops "all status effects" but doesn't work? I demand consistency!

Anyway it took me about 3 or 4 tries to beat him. It wasn't as hard as I originally thought, but it was a pretty annoying fight

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_stingers_
07/20/21 9:05:20 AM
#377:


Truly an egregious oversight from Falcom

I think they just wanted to show off their cool pepper sprite and couldn't have grail locket getting in the way

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MZero
07/20/21 9:46:37 AM
#378:


shadow clones with 140k HP awesome

edit: oh thank god I don't have to kill them

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_stingers_
07/20/21 9:59:57 AM
#379:


Oh you're almost coming up on the third "unwinnable" fight of the game. Don't be a quitter this time I believe in you

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MZero
07/20/21 10:24:13 AM
#380:


Oh I'm almost certainly going to be a quitter sorry xD

I'm gonna beat them all on New Game+ for trophy cleanup so I'm not very motivated to do it now!

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_stingers_
07/20/21 10:36:15 AM
#381:


That's some dedication at least, I never find myself willing to replay long story RPGs like this. Maybe years and years from now

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MZero
07/20/21 11:02:16 AM
#382:


_stingers_ posted...
That's some dedication at least, I never find myself willing to replay long story RPGs like this. Maybe years and years from now

New Game+ with stats, equipment, quartz, etc. carried over + turbo + fast forward through dialogue makes it go by really fast!

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Leonhart4
07/20/21 11:11:04 AM
#383:


I don't ever fast forward through dialogue or skip cutscenes. If I'm playing a story focused game, I want to take in the story. There isn't an RPG in the world where I love the gameplay enough to play it just for that.

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_stingers_
07/20/21 11:35:12 AM
#384:


Yeah that's my mentality too. That's why I'd only replay after a few years, so the experience can be fresh again

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MZero
07/20/21 12:12:01 PM
#385:


Leonhart4 posted...
I don't ever fast forward through dialogue or skip cutscenes. If I'm playing a story focused game, I want to take in the story. There isn't an RPG in the world where I love the gameplay enough to play it just for that.

I mean yeah but if I just took in the story yesterday I don't need to read it again yet!

It's mostly just to get the trophies, and also Zero and Azure have missions that are New Game+ only and near the end of the game. Of course, I don't skip through anything I didn't see in the first playthrough, and I will rewatch some cutscenes if I forgot what happened or if it was a particularly great scene

_stingers_ posted...
Yeah that's my mentality too. That's why I'd only replay after a few years, so the experience can be fresh again

yeah I don't skip if it's been a long time between playthroughs

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Leonhart4
07/20/21 12:14:44 PM
#386:


I have replayed story driven games immediately after beating them and still watched everything. It's fun to catch the foreshadowing I missed the first time.

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MZero
07/20/21 12:28:15 PM
#387:


Leonhart4 posted...
I have replayed story driven games immediately after beating them and still watched everything. It's fun to catch the foreshadowing I missed the first time.

If I didn't have a massive backlog and had infinite time I would do this more often. I think I did it the first time I beat FFX

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Mac Arrowny
07/20/21 12:29:35 PM
#388:


Leonhart4 posted...
I have replayed story driven games immediately after beating them and still watched everything. It's fun to catch the foreshadowing I missed the first time.

Are you saying you don't skip content when replaying stuff like Steins;Gate for the other routes?
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Leonhart4
07/20/21 12:32:25 PM
#389:


Mac Arrowny posted...
Are you saying you don't skip content when replaying stuff like Steins;Gate for the other routes?

I mean that's not replaying the game. I'll skip ahead to the next route in a single playthrough just because there's no other way to do it (I do save frequently and have multiple save files if I think I'm near a divergence point though so I can go right to it). If I were to replay the whole game, I'd read everything.

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MZero
07/20/21 12:39:58 PM
#390:


_stingers_ posted...
Oh you're almost coming up on the third "unwinnable" fight of the game. Don't be a quitter this time I believe in you

I did about 500 damage and got one-shotted by her S-Craft... which apparently isn't good enough. Or this isn't the unwinnable fight I assumed you were talking about

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Leonhart4
07/20/21 12:41:52 PM
#391:


MZero posted...
I did about 500 damage and got one-shotted by her S-Craft... which apparently isn't good enough. Or this isn't the unwinnable fight I assumed you were talking about

You have to do a certain amount of damage first before you're "allowed" to lose. You'll know when it is.

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NFUN
07/20/21 12:47:13 PM
#392:


ao no kiseki is Predict When the Boss Will S-Craft: The Game

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_stingers_
07/20/21 1:03:37 PM
#393:


Is it damage? I thought it was a timer thing. I don't know because I reset after that point a lot trying to actually win the fight anyway

But yeah if you've been having this much trouble with all the superbosses until now you probably need a better strategy. Try to max out Lloyd's evasion and lock her in a corner with Lloyds craft that drags her towards him, and then you'll need to get your casters with as much magic damage as you physically can and just start blasting

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Leonhart4
07/20/21 1:06:03 PM
#394:


NFUN posted...
ao no kiseki is Predict When the Boss Will S-Craft: The Game

It's why you've always got to have Tio in your party with her S-Craft at the ready

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NFUN
07/20/21 1:10:04 PM
#395:


_stingers_ posted...
Is it damage? I thought it was a timer thing. I don't know because I reset after that point a lot trying to actually win the fight anyway

But yeah if you've been having this much trouble with all the superbosses until now you probably need a better strategy. Try to max out Lloyd's evasion and lock her in a corner with Lloyds craft that drags her towards him, and then you'll need to get your casters with as much magic damage as you physically can and just start blasting
It's damage

He's on Nightmare

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Leonhart4
07/20/21 1:11:12 PM
#396:


It's damage on Normal too. You have to break her mask before the fight can end.

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_stingers_
07/20/21 1:16:34 PM
#397:


I played Azure on hard. I'm sure it's stupid on nightmare, but the general strategies you use should still be the same. I gave up on nightmare after sky1 when I was naive about the series...probably reset hundreds of times through the early game alone but it got easier the further I got, but I had already decided to never subject myself to that in a trails game again.

Though I am playing cold steel on Nightmare again since I heard the difficulty was drastically reduced. I have had a few hard fights but definitely nothing as bad as trails 1 nightmare...not even close

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MZero
07/20/21 1:22:55 PM
#398:


Holy S-Craft spam Batman

I got her unmasked form close to half HP before she started zeroing in on Wazy (my Earth Wall user) and then she hit an S-Craft before I could get him revived and walled up... oh well good enough!

_stingers_ posted...
But yeah if you've been having this much trouble with all the superbosses until now you probably need a better strategy. Try to max out Lloyd's evasion and lock her in a corner with Lloyds craft that drags her towards him, and then you'll need to get your casters with as much magic damage as you physically can and just start blasting

I'm not really trying to beat them. I mean, I'm not losing on purpose but I'm not spending any time coming up with a strategy. If I don't get it on the first attempt oh well

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_stingers_
07/20/21 6:35:36 PM
#399:


Fair enough. I don't get why you'd play on Nightmare if you don't feel like trying to tackle that challenge though, but that's just me. All or nothing!

In other news, the song that plays when you're infiltrating the mine when the terrorists are there at the end of chapter 6 in CS is an absolute bop. It's the first song I've actually thought was really good in this game. Most of the tracks have been pretty whatever

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NFUN
07/20/21 6:39:28 PM
#400:


To Become the Foundation of the World

Roer, Through the Canyon Road, and Skies of a Strange Land (and others you have heard yet) are better, but you're right that the Cold Steel series has a weaker soundtrack in general

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Leonhart4
07/20/21 7:14:27 PM
#401:


Cold Steel OST is great. It's just different from Sky and Crossbell.

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Then00bAvenger
07/20/21 7:16:33 PM
#402:


CS1 is overall a well-balanced and good OST. It just doesn't have as many standouts that really jump out. Though arguably if you look at the average quality of every track it's one of the best in the CS series.

It's just missing a Blue Destination/Spiral of Erebos/To the Future

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