Poll of the Day > Montana Man who had GAY SEX at 18 with a 16 y/o is OFF the SEX OFFENDER list!!!

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Full Throttle
05/16/21 6:24:04 PM
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Do you think it should be illegal for an 18 y/o to have consensual sex with 16 y/o's?



45 y/o Randall Menges was 18 years old in 1993 in Idaho when he was convicted of "crimes against nature", in other words for having GAY SEX, with then 16 y/o's despite police stating it was CONSENSUAL as he spent 7 YEARS in the big house AND was put on the SEX OFFENDER list for decades...until now when he is finally having it expunged from his record..but Montana is now APPEALING that ruling!!

He was convicted of a crime in the state where today is legal gay sex and a federal judge in Montana approved to have it removed from his record but the Montana state attorney general is appealing it claiming it weakens the state's sex offender registry law and opens up to additional challenges from out of state lawyers

The legal age of consent was 16 in the state as Randall was 18 when he had sex with the boys but because having gay sex was a crime against nature, he was found guilty and spent 7 years in prison along with registering as a sex offender for life

US District Judge, Dana Christensen said the state of Montana has no valid reason to require him to remain on the sex offender registry and cited a 2003 US Supreme Court ruling that laws criminalizing consensual sodomy or oral sex were unconstitutional

It said "None of the governmental interests in maintaining a sexual offender registry are served by Menges inclusion. Engagement in intimate sexual contact with a person of the same sex, without more, cannot be said to render someone a threat to public safety"

Menges said after the ruling "I guess i'm just grateful, honestly, that the judge actually listened and was fair because for the last few years of my life, i don't feel like anything's been fair"

The order is to have him removed from the registry before or on May 21 and expunge any records indicating he was ever subject to registration and alert all agencies that may have provided in

Elizabeth Ehret, his lawyer tweeted on the win who said Gay Montanans can't be forced to register as sex offenders for consensual gay sex...and while they've won now, they still have a fight on their hands as the state will appeal the verdict to protect the state's sex offender laws from lawyers who are "more interested in politics than the safety of Montana children"

He moved to Montana in 2018 hoping to start a new life but a 2005 state law says anyone on a register in another state must register as a sex offender if they move to Montana..

Matt Strugar, a lawyer challenged a similar law in Mississippi said there are likely hundreds of people like Menges who are being forced to register as sex offenders which is a violation of their right to due process and equal protection under the 14th amendment

He said "I'm outraged that in 2021 that we have what is essentially a registry of gay sex. If someone's not a molester or rapist, they shouldn't be subjected to what i ahve. If we can change the law, at least it'll have been worth it"

Do you think it should be illegal for an 18 y/o to have consensual sex with a 16 y/o?

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Mead
05/16/21 6:35:08 PM
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I still think the half your age plus seven rule appropriate for almost all ages

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Zeus
05/16/21 6:55:08 PM
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tbh, 18 to 16 should be covered under Romeo & Juliet laws (or, I guess, in this case it'd be Romeo & Mercutio laws). Plus if somebody has been on an offender list for over 20 years without re-offending, they should have the chance to be taken off it anyway.

AOC in general is a giant fucking mess, both the consent laws and the idiot congresswoman.


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xjayguyx
05/16/21 7:22:52 PM
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18 year old and a 16 year old can legally have sex where I live.
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Mead
05/16/21 7:33:18 PM
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xjayguyx posted...
18 year old and a 16 year old can legally have sex where I live.

like in your house?

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BlackScythe0
05/16/21 7:49:43 PM
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Zeus posted...
tbh, 18 to 16 should be covered under Romeo & Juliet laws (or, I guess, in this case it'd be Romeo & Mercutio laws). Plus if somebody has been on an offender list for over 20 years without re-offending, they should have the chance to be taken off it anyway.

AOC in general is a giant fucking mess, both the consent laws and the idiot congresswoman.

Seems like he was targeted for being gay than the whole consent thing.
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Monopoman
05/16/21 7:51:28 PM
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I have heard of some states where they have like a 2 or 3 year rule to prevent throwing 18 year old's in jail for screwing say a 17 year old or something.

My GF from high school way back turned 18 before I did by a few months, without that rule technically my parents could press charges for that.
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LinkPizza
05/16/21 8:03:34 PM
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I guess it was about him being gay as in most places, 18 and 16 is fine...
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VeeVees
05/16/21 8:06:08 PM
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Pretty sure he's just targeted for being gay.

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Monopoman
05/16/21 9:06:16 PM
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Well since it was Montana that makes sense, though I will say if parents really want to go out of their way to press charges it can happen in other cases depending on state law.

I could see an overprotective father flipping out if he catches his 16 year old daughter fucking an 18 year old guy.
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Zareth
05/16/21 9:41:17 PM
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VeeVees posted...
Pretty sure he's just targeted for being gay.
They called it a "crime against nature" so yeah he was

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