Current Events > Bioshock quote in yearbook called racist.

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skermac
05/15/21 2:38:10 PM
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If i had my year book already at home no one would be collecting it without a court order

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Star_FAQs
05/15/21 2:39:31 PM
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sounds more Pro-Choice than anything
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pikachupwnage
05/15/21 2:42:22 PM
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cjs28 posted...
This quote is my favorite



This is my 2nd favorite >_>


I feel like there is a good chance he will be elected as a Republican congressmen in a decade or three.

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Star_FAQs
05/15/21 2:43:51 PM
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pikachupwnage posted...
I feel like there is a good chance he will be elected as a Republican congressmen in a decade or three.

I was gonna say that sounds like the Republican motto
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Unknown5uspect
05/15/21 2:50:27 PM
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action52 posted...
If Andrew Ryan existed in our society he would almost certainly be a white supremacist who loves fascism.
I mean he's pretty fucking authoritarian in the game.

"Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? No! It belongs to me."

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ThePrinceFish
05/15/21 2:57:22 PM
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Unknown5uspect posted...
I mean he's pretty fucking authoritarian in the game.

"Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? No! It belongs to me."
He ends up pretty authoritarian once his libertarian ideals are shown to get btfo by humans who take advantage of freedoms.

Hey just like real life

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What_
05/15/21 2:58:09 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Not everyone is gonna know it's from Bioshock TC

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iPhone_7
05/15/21 2:59:23 PM
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A better Bioshock quote & one from Andrew Ryan would be:

We all make choices, but in the end, our choices make us.

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R1masher
05/15/21 2:59:23 PM
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Im pretty sure everyone knows this is from bioshock

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2SweetforTurtle
05/15/21 3:08:26 PM
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Didnt Kanye get a bunch of blowback for saying this exact shit on TMZ a few years ago?

The quote is stupid as hell and knowing its from a videogame does not change the fact that in America its taboo to imply slaves had a choice.

bbbbbbut slavery doesnt inherently mean black people

Stupid defense. Thats like being in London and yelling im gonna kill the Queen tonight and then getting mad when you get arrested, and argue that the Queen you were referring to is Queen Cersei from Game of Thrones.

Words have specific contexts depending one where you say them, and you cant get angry at people for reacting in a way that theyre programmed to. Its the difference between getting cheers in an Evangelical church for saying that gay people belong in hell, and the confrontation youll receive for doing the same in a gay bar.

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MajesticFerret
05/15/21 3:30:23 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
And what part of it is racist if you don't know it's a Bioshock quote?

It makes it seem like slavery is a choice.

"A man chooses and a slave obeys" heavily implies if you allowed yourself to be enslaved you are not a true man.

In the context of Bioshock it's a great quote from a great game, but in general context, it comes off pretty condescending to anyone who has ancestors that "allowed" themselves to be enslaved, as it implies they "were not men."

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MajesticFerret
05/15/21 3:31:58 PM
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pikachupwnage posted...
I feel like there is a good chance he will be elected as a Republican congressmen in a decade or three.

Too asian, not white enough lol

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BoyOfBattle
05/15/21 3:33:31 PM
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one of the rare cases where i actually side with the online outrage brigade. easy to see how that could upset people.

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I4NRulez
05/15/21 3:35:59 PM
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2SweetforTurtle posted...
Didnt Kanye get a bunch of blowback for saying this exact s*** on TMZ a few years ago?

No, he essentially said slavery was black people's fault because we chose to be slaves for so long. Ignoring the fact that there were slave rebellions all the time.

Also, i never understood the people that identify with villains that arent redeemed in some way. Like the edgelords that try to identify with the Joker.

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Veggeta X
05/15/21 3:40:31 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Not everyone is gonna know it's from Bioshock TC
So explain the context and everything will be resolved?

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SothaSil
05/15/21 4:22:45 PM
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Big oof^

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CyricZ
05/15/21 4:23:45 PM
#70:


Veggeta X posted...
So explain the context and everything will be resolved?
Not really a lot of space in a Senior Quote for the full context.


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Grischnak
05/15/21 4:30:31 PM
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Sounds like an edgy quote a nerdy kid would use to sound cool. I don't see the big deal. Certainly no reason to freak over it. But whatever.
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ultimate reaver
05/15/21 4:30:56 PM
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completely removed from context it sounds pretty sketchy

the context being an idiot libertarian built a utopia that immediately fell down around his ears so he's not exactly something to aspire to be and his words are not something you should take with a lot of weight

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Chad-Henne
05/15/21 4:32:16 PM
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Makeveli_lives
05/15/21 4:35:34 PM
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coh posted...
so stupid. Any race of people can be a slave,
There was no industry of white slavery in this country, shut the fuck up. Goddamn people try to steal our culture, art, style, etc. all the damn time and now your trying to say we can't even have slavery now? The fuck is this shit?

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Makeveli_lives
05/15/21 4:45:43 PM
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super_clout posted...
Africans shouldn't have sold their own to the white man period.
They were prisoners of war, no different to the vikings or native americans or samurai or barbarians or any other historical tribe. Back then people got slaughtered if they lost the war, who the fuck was trying to keep prisoners back then with no modern tech to make it easy to store food and supplies for them? And this was back when it wasn't uncommon to lose a sizeable part of an army in a few weeks from starvation, bad weather, illness, etc. So the choice was simple, you were chosen to die or to be a servant. The few that weren't killed were only kept alive if they weren't big enough, strong enough or rebllious enough to be an immediate threat to their captors. So why villianize black people for doing what every other race did regardless of how fucked up it was, like we more then all the rest are inherently more responsible for the way whites treated us back in the day because we were no different then them?

And white people made it worse by turning it into an industry. Now all of a sudden we weren't just losers of a battle, we were now inventory to be stocked up and sold when the white man came back. And the white man taught them how to more effectively and safely round us up so that we were more likely to survive the trip back. Both are horrible but one is just uncivilized, the other is a literal crime against humanity. They are not the same, don't treat them as such.

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CyricZ
05/15/21 4:46:11 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
He ends up pretty authoritarian once his libertarian ideals are shown to get btfo by humans who take advantage of freedoms.

Hey just like real life
More accurately, he ends up authoritarian once another person comes along that provides better than he can.

Andrew Ryan was all about the objectivist ideal, as long as he was the person at the top. Granted Fontaine cheated to get there, but if Ryan truly valued his objectivism, he'd respect the hustle.

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Jiek_Fafn
05/15/21 4:46:12 PM
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pikachupwnage posted...
I feel like there is a good chance he will be elected as a Republican congressmen in a decade or three.
That quote is strange because it's attributed to multiple people. Both Gore Vidal and Ghengis Khan get credit for it. Both of which were pretty much polar opposite on their life views. There are also several other folks that have a good case for being the origin of it. They all had drastically different political views.

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hockeybub89
05/15/21 4:49:03 PM
#78:


Imagine playing Bioshock and thinking Andrew Ryan makes good points.

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I4NRulez
05/15/21 4:49:41 PM
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super_clout posted...
Africans shouldn't have sold their own to the white man period.

Oh shit, YOU JUST OPENED MY EYES SO MUCH! I'm sorry white America 600 years of slavery, segregation, jim crow, gentrification, police shootings, gerrymandering, assassinations of our leaders were entirely Black Americans' fault because there was some slavery in Africa hundreds of years ago.

And its not like the white demand for slaves in africa created a fucking industry of slave trading that African Americans today have no sense of culture connected to their homeland.

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MirageOfRuins
05/15/21 4:50:16 PM
#80:


Rip freedom of speech
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RustyFerret
05/15/21 4:50:55 PM
#81:


coh posted...
Ayn Rand was literally anti fascist lol

what the f*** is this
Yeah, Ayn Rand being a fascist is news to me considering she spoke out against it quite a lot and considered it a form of collectivism, which she was against all forms of.

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IShall_Run_Amok
05/15/21 4:53:42 PM
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It doesn't really matter how much Ayn Rand disliked fascism, when her beliefs are inherently fascist.

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Chad-Henne
05/15/21 4:57:16 PM
#83:


i hate car crashes, however i do like driving really fast with my eyes closed

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RustyFerret
05/15/21 5:08:18 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
It doesn't really matter how much Ayn Rand disliked fascism, when her beliefs are inherently fascist.
That makes no sense.
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nesplayer
05/15/21 5:12:54 PM
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In my yearbook they always put whom the quote was from. I guess the 90s were a different time.

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hockeybub89
05/15/21 5:21:37 PM
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RustyFerret posted...
That makes no sense.
He's kinda onto something. Andrew Ryan is based directly on Ayn Rand and his society devolved into an authoritarian hellhole. It's not exactly fascism, but it's in the ballpark.

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RustyFerret
05/15/21 5:38:51 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
He's kinda onto something. Andrew Ryan is based directly on Ayn Rand and his society devolved into an authoritarian hellhole. It's not exactly fascism, but it's in the ballpark.
It also devolved into communist hellhole in the second game.

Andrew Ryan is a hypocrite who actually abandons his ideology and becomes an authoritarian to fight Fontaine.

The flaws with Ryan's views are you can't have a hyper individualistic and objectivist form of capitalism where everyone only cares about themselves and expect society to function
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IShall_Run_Amok
05/15/21 5:47:35 PM
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RustyFerret posted...
That makes no sense.
I understood it right away.

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jackgunney
05/15/21 5:53:05 PM
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Racist. Everyone knows that the only slaves in all of history were black. /s

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CyricZ
05/15/21 6:02:03 PM
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RustyFerret posted...
It also devolved into communist hellhole in the second game.
Sophia Lamb preached collectivism. Close but no cigar.

Also Rapture had long since crumbled into an ADAM-fueled anarchy that her attempts were just casting pearls before swine.

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RustyFerret
05/15/21 6:02:41 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
I understood it right away.
Is this like when the right calls everything socialist they don't like?
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ImmatureContent
05/15/21 6:06:32 PM
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Objectivism is definitely not fascism. Two things can both be bad without being the same thing.

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IShall_Run_Amok
05/15/21 6:08:45 PM
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RustyFerret posted...
Is this like when the right calls everything socialist they don't like?
No, its just me being smarter than you, apparently.

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CyricZ
05/15/21 6:10:25 PM
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Yeah I'm not on the "objectivism = fascism" train. Perhaps objectivism could open doors to fascism, but so can communism. They're not concurrent.

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GiftedACIII
05/15/21 6:13:04 PM
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action52
05/15/21 6:14:55 PM
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No one is saying that objectivism and fascism are the same thing.

But Andrew Ryan definitely has tendencies toward both. As do a lot of people on the far right.

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Grischnak
05/15/21 6:16:10 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Remember that time when Ken Levine defended Gina Carano
https://twitter.com/levine/status/1360027731250061319?s=19
https://twitter.com/BerylB33/status/1360047494877634564?s=19

Why did you post the opinion of some random nobody? Who gives a shit what that loser thinks about Levine's tweet? Is that you? Or do you simp for her?
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GiftedACIII
05/15/21 6:18:58 PM
#99:


Grischnak posted...
Why did you post the opinion of some random nobody? Who gives a shit what that loser thinks about Levine's tweet? Is that you? Or do you simp for her?


It was included in the topic about it. It's also a pretty good example of how ridiculous Infinite was.
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DeadBankerDream
05/15/21 6:24:02 PM
#100:


Unless the kid is some sort of supervillain trying to sneak a reference to racism under the table, then the quote is not racist.

It's probably not something that should be in a one-sentence yearbook blurp divorced from its context, though.

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Grischnak
05/15/21 6:30:36 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...
It was included in the topic about it. It's also a pretty good example of how ridiculous Infinite was.

No, it's a pretty good example of what fucking morons people on Twitter are. A Jewish guy posts a Tweet saying some lady shouldn't get fired for Tweeting a shitty Holocaust analogy? Obviously he's a racist. Obviously. What a boundless cesspool of idiocy Twitter is.
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Beveren_Rabbit
05/15/21 6:31:54 PM
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highschool kids are playing Bioshock? That series hasn't been relevant in 30 years.
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