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GeneralSecura92 05/12/21 7:36:00 PM #101: |
ZevLoveDOOM posted...
i dont get it: instead of fighting over a piece of land, why cant they just share it?Because the Arabs won't tolerate any Jews in their midst. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delirious_Beard 05/12/21 9:43:26 PM #102: |
bombing civilians ain't ever it
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ScazarMeltex 05/12/21 9:44:31 PM #103: |
GeneralSecura92 posted...
Because the Arabs won't tolerate any Jews in their midst.I'm gonna need a citation for that one pal. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kelemvor 05/12/21 9:52:11 PM #104: |
s0nicfan posted...
This old chart is propaganda with no basis in reality. You didn't get the memo? Facts don't matter these days, anything is justified to generate emotion and anger. What I don't understand is how reasonable, rational, educated liberals are throwing up pictures and stories from Al-Jazeera to whip up a frenzy without any consideration it's just like Trumpers using Fox News to try to prove some conservative talking point. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 05/12/21 10:00:04 PM #105: |
Sackgurl posted...
folks saying both sides are equally in the wrong should consider that one side is an internationally condemned terrorist organization and the other is a national governmentHave you seen some national governments? They can be the worst terrorists. I think it's disingenuous to describe this as "terrorists vs legitimate government" given the thousands of innocent civilians being harmed by this conflict. Both sides don't need to be equally wrong for neither side to be right. America certainly shouldn't be throwing its hat in the ring and half of our country shouldn't be treating Israel like the 51st American state. I don't know how Israel support became patriotism. An actual American patriot probably wouldn't tell Americans to eat shit and die while throwing millions of dollars at a country halfway around the world. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 05/13/21 3:10:03 AM #106: |
COVxy posted...
Seems weird, given the history, to frame this as if Palestine has never been the aggressor.Yeah but I suppose it's not weird to frame it as if Israel hasn't spent the last 70 years doing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, aided by the US. *shrugs* --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeneralSecura92 05/13/21 4:08:38 AM #107: |
scar the 1 posted...
Yeah but I suppose it's not weird to frame it as if Israel hasn't spent the last 70 years doing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, aided by the US."Ethnic cleansing" yet the Palestinian population keeps growing year after year. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeneralSecura92 05/13/21 4:18:01 AM #108: |
ScazarMeltex posted...
I'm gonna need a citation for that one pal.Reports exist of Jewish communities remaining in other territories in the low single digits that are on the verge of disappearing, particularly in the Muslim world, as their reaction to the birth of Israel in 1948 was the persecution of Jews in nearly all Muslim lands; these are often of historical interest as they represent the remnant of much larger Jewish populations. For example, Egypt had a Jewish community of 80,000 in the early 20th century that numbered fewer than 40 as of 2014, mainly because of the forced expulsion movements to Israel and other countries at that time. Afghanistan may have only one Jew left, Zablon Simintov, despite a 2,000 year history of Jewish presence. In Syria, another ancient Jewish community saw mass exodus at the end of the 20th century and numbered fewer than 20 in the midst of the Syrian Civil War. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 05/13/21 4:37:42 AM #109: |
GeneralSecura92 posted...
"Ethnic cleansing" yet the Palestinian population keeps growing year after year.The two aren't mutually exclusive. Forcibly moving an ethnic group from their home region is also ethnic cleansing. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 4:42:42 AM #110: |
iPhone_7 posted...
But the retaliation is disproportionate. If they shoot 1 missile then just shoot 1 missile back. Theyre not fighting fair. *waits for iphone_7 to realize that Hamas shot 1000 missiles* --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 4:43:23 AM #111: |
scar the 1 posted...
The two aren't mutually exclusive. Forcibly moving an ethnic group from their home region is also ethnic cleansing. Hamas leaders talk about killing all of the Jews Yet the Jews are the ones 'ethnic cleansing' Even though that same ethnic group lives in Israel too and is fine --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 4:45:02 AM #112: |
butthole666 posted...
Israel is on stolen land. I don't know. This conflict is very confusing to me. Israel has no place to go. Jews have been being murdered throughout history. So many people want to wipe them off the map. And they only have one little country. Meanwhile there is so much Arab land. It doesn't seem fair for Israel and the Jews to have NOWHERE to go because for years they've been kicked around That being said, it isn't fair to Palestinians either. So this whole conflict is confusing. --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 05/13/21 4:49:41 AM #113: |
HHH is the game posted...
Yet the Jews are the ones 'ethnic cleansing'Very cleverly calling Israel "the Jews" to be same to mas dismiss criticism of Israel as antisemitism. Yes, Israel are the ones doing the ethnic cleansing. Supported by the US. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 4:50:19 AM #114: |
Antifar posted...
If you recognize the failings of "all lives matter" in the context of the US, you should know why "both sides" isn't an adequate response here Except if black people were going out and killing random white people, all lives matter would have been a proper response --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 4:51:52 AM #115: |
scar the 1 posted...
Very cleverly calling Israel "the Jews" to be same to mas dismiss criticism of Israel as antisemitism. Yes, Israel are the ones doing the ethnic cleansing. Supported by the US. I have to think the people saying Israel is doing ethnic cleansing and genocide is anti-semitism talking. Because Hamas are literally the people talking about killing all the Jews. If the Jews wanted to do ethnic cleansing they would have done much worse. Or the people that say Israel strikes back x10, not realizing that Hamas has sent 1000 rockets --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 4:52:55 AM #116: |
Smashingpmkns posted...
Israel usually hands out leaflets shortly before an attack and that's how we get so many civilian videos like this. I wonder if Hamas is handing out leaflets to warn people to evacuate. Or are they just trying to kill as many people as they can? --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 05/13/21 4:52:57 AM #117: |
HHH is the game posted...
I have to think the people saying Israel is doing ethnic cleansing and genocide is anti-semitism talking. Because Hamas are literally the people talking about killing all the Jews. If the Jews wanted to do ethnic cleansing they would have done much worse.Who has power over whom? Why are you equating criticism of Israel with support of Hamas? --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 4:58:37 AM #118: |
kelemvor posted...
What I don't understand is how reasonable, rational, educated liberals are throwing up pictures and stories from Al-Jazeera to whip up a frenzy without any consideration it's just like Trumpers using Fox News to try to prove some conservative talking point. It's been so disappointing to me to see becoming AGGRESSIVELY anti-israel and pro-palestine being the cool liberal thing to do. People that I want to respect (as somebody on the left myself, though not as far left as reddit) are coming out so strongly and I just think it's...wrong. I don't think Israel is innocent but there's so much context being glossed over to call Israel evil. Including what the Jewish people have gone through to lead to this point. Why don't they have any land to begin with? What was Israel before that graphic which as was already pointed out, had a lot of context removed? --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpoiltTrouser 05/13/21 4:59:44 AM #119: |
only natural to defend your home from european colonisers when you're being kept in a zoo and kept on the brink whilst your territory is continually whittled away.
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 5:00:35 AM #120: |
scar the 1 posted...
Who has power over whom? Why are you equating criticism of Israel with support of Hamas? But that's the thing. If Hamas had power over Israel, you'd see MUCH more 'ethnic cleansing' And while I agree you should be able to criticize Israel, a lot of people are acting (aggressively) like this is a clear-cut good vs evil issue, with Israel on the 'evil' side --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 05/13/21 5:01:32 AM #121: |
HHH is the game posted...
*waits for iphone_7 to realize that Hamas shot 1000 missiles*1 Israeli missile for every 1 Hamas missile. Its only fair. Israel needs to stop with its disproportionate use of force as retaliation. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 5:02:00 AM #122: |
SpoiltTrouser posted...
only natural to defend your home from european colonisers when you're being kept in a zoo and kept on the brink whilst your territory is continually whittled away. True, but Israel also spent years being murdered and expelled and they have only one tiny corner of the world, and know very well that everybody around them wants them dead. I dont know..... --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 5:02:25 AM #123: |
iPhone_7 posted...
1 Israeli missile for every 1 Hamas missile. Its only fair. Israel needs to stop with its disproportionate use of force as retaliation. So your'e saying you want Israel to send 1000 missiles...? Im very confused --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 05/13/21 5:05:41 AM #124: |
HHH is the game posted...
But that's the thing. If Hamas had power over Israel, you'd see MUCH more 'ethnic cleansing'Israel is on the evil side. That doesn't mean that Hamas is good. Israel are doing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, and no amount of "but Hamas would also do that is they could" makes it more acceptable. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 05/13/21 5:27:27 AM #125: |
HHH is the game posted...
So your'e saying you want Israel to send 1000 missiles...? Im very confusedPeople criticize Israel for their disproportionate retaliation. So maybe Israel should try not overdoing it. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 5:29:08 AM #126: |
scar the 1 posted...
Israel is on the evil side. That doesn't mean that Hamas is good. Israel are doing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, and no amount of "but Hamas would also do that is they could" makes it more acceptable. Well let's put it this way. Israel is on the evil side. But Hamas is even more evil than Israel. So to condemn israel and not acknowledge that they're the lesser of two evils, is just...strange. this is the most mild ethnic cleansing of all time. It's not acceptable its true, but some people's rhetoric, especially sadly, on the left, is way out of line --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 05/13/21 5:38:36 AM #127: |
HHH is the game posted...
Well let's put it this way. Israel is on the evil side. But Hamas is even more evil than Israel. So to condemn israel and not acknowledge that they're the lesser of two evils, is just...strange. this is the most mild ethnic cleansing of all time. It's not acceptable its true, but some people's rhetoric, especially sadly, on the left, is way out of linehttps://twitter.com/workerism/status/1392565942400520194 --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 05/13/21 5:40:13 AM #128: |
"the most mild ethnic cleansing of all time" is a very deranged statement that I think warrants no further discussion here
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Sphyx 05/13/21 7:32:54 AM #130: |
So now we expect the broken guy being kicked in the ribs to be the better man, even as we defend the kicker's right to keep kicking.
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RedJackson 05/13/21 8:11:01 AM #131: |
HHH is the game posted...
But that's the thing. If Hamas had power over Israel, you'd see MUCH more 'ethnic cleansing' Its their stupid ass American mindset trying not to get caught as a centrist on the internet in any way Like they HAVE to pick a side or their brains just wont function properly at the prospect of understanding issues not our own --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ButteryMales 05/13/21 8:19:18 AM #132: |
Israel and Hamas are evil. That doesn't make it okay for Israel to attack holy sites for excuses to genocide Palestinians.
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ssjevot 05/13/21 8:21:23 AM #133: |
Is anyone in this topic actually defending Hamas or claiming they are good though? I see people saying that is happening, and yes I know you can find people on *insert social media site* saying that, but in this topic I haven't seen that. It's more of a straw man.
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Balrog0 05/13/21 8:26:19 AM #134: |
s0nicfan posted...
. It also defined the borders of iraq, syria, turkey, and transjordan. So if anybody is going to question the legitimacy of those borders they might want to ask themselves why of all those countries created only one of them is illegitimate That's not a great list of countries that you look at and think, yeah, that's a nation state that's functional and has a real national identity --- Trying to dunk since July 2020 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pick4six 05/13/21 8:30:02 AM #135: |
This is evil, they are committing genocide against Palenstine. Guess what? America gave them all those bombs...
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 10:33:28 AM #136: |
They are not committing genocide, but if they are, then Hamas is also committing attempted genocide
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 10:34:29 AM #137: |
scar the 1 posted...
"the most mild ethnic cleansing of all time" is a very deranged statement that I think warrants no further discussion here My point is that to call this an ethnic cleansing is ridiculously extreme --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 05/13/21 10:35:35 AM #138: |
HHH is the game posted...
My point is that to call this an ethnic cleansing is ridiculously extremeWould you call what the US did to the Natives an ethnic cleansing? --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 05/13/21 10:39:39 AM #139: |
https://twitter.com/Vinncent/status/1392840372737486851
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Heyitsan_alt 05/13/21 10:58:12 AM #140: |
scar the 1 posted...
https://twitter.com/Vinncent/status/1392840372737486851 It's not even comparable in the age of social media with how much coverage events such as these get. We live in era of instantaneous widespread communication. Comparing a population that was both ignorant and voiceless to the modern Israel/Palestine conflict is insane. Public opinion was so much easier to mold in that era because there were so many fewer voices that carried immensely more authority. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 1:21:35 PM #141: |
from Wikipedia:
"From 1993 to 2003, 303 Palestinian suicide bombers attacked Israel. More than 80% of all suicide bombings occurred after the year 2000. Between 2000 and 2006, 521 suicide bombing plots were thwarted by the Israeli Defense Forces and 540 Israelis were killed by suicide bombings." --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 1:22:46 PM #142: |
We killed MILLIONS of native americans. Thousands of palestinians have died, but thousands of israelis have died too. The power dynamic is not equal at all but unlike Americans, Israelis ARE using restraint. If they wanted to wipe them out they could, but they don't want to because it's not comparable a situation.
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GeneralSecura92 05/13/21 1:57:36 PM #143: |
Israel has the capacity for genocide but not the desire.
The Palestinians have the desire for genocide but not the capacity. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SothaSil 05/13/21 1:59:22 PM #144: |
GeneralSecura92 posted...
Israel has the capacity for genocide but not the desire.Whose alt --- Rebel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darklink1017 05/13/21 2:00:12 PM #146: |
remember how the burmese treated the rohingya? same shit here.
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HHH is the game 05/13/21 5:51:58 PM #147: |
GeneralSecura92 posted...
Israel has the capacity for genocide but not the desire. Exactly. (Or Hamas at least, though they're the government in Gaza. Not the Palestinian people in general.) --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gmanthebest 05/14/21 11:25:33 AM #148: |
GeneralSecura92 posted...
Israel has the capacity for genocide but not the desire.Hamas, but yeah, pretty much. --- What do I feel when I shoot an enemy? Recoil. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 05/14/21 11:27:12 AM #149: |
https://twitter.com/catcontentonly/status/1393047412663521280
Since when are soldiers counted among civilians? --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 05/14/21 11:54:45 AM #150: |
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