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Doe
05/04/21 7:50:13 PM
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What was his stance on abortion?

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
05/04/21 7:52:30 PM
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Those are handled at solar system levels or even planetary.
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MedeaLysistrata
05/04/21 7:53:32 PM
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Wow, a provincialist sci fi novel, you truly are inspiring

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David1988
05/04/21 7:54:02 PM
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Lets just say he wasn't a fiscal conservative.

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DarthAragorn
05/04/21 7:56:12 PM
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Idk, I'm waiting til this Star Wars conversion mod for Stellaris is updated for the latest patch to find out
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BreezyExcursion
05/04/21 7:56:35 PM
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planets rights

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Xavier_On_High
05/04/21 7:56:56 PM
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monkmith
05/04/21 7:58:16 PM
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pay your taxes or you're gonna see a new moon appear in your sky?

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ArchNemo
05/04/21 7:59:38 PM
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His fiscal policy was build a Death Star.

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ScazarMeltex
05/04/21 8:00:51 PM
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Similar to that of a neocon really. Spend all your money on massive military projects that don't work well.

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Blue_Inigo
05/04/21 8:01:01 PM
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He leaned far right on a lot of things

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UnfairRepresent
05/04/21 8:06:30 PM
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We kinda get a glimpse of it in Fallen Order

High taxes to fund huge military projects and Stormtroopers/military robots everywhere

Citizens working double time just for the money to not die due to mass inflation/taxation.

Infastructure falling apart because everything is being pooled into the Empire's military

His fiscal policy is basically the Zennith of the military industrial complex.

The Death Star probably cost the GDP of like 18 entire Solar Systems to create

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Murphiroth
05/04/21 8:10:45 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Similar to that of a neocon really. Spend all your money on massive military projects that don't work well.

Han Solo had a great quote about this in Legends content when an Imperial tells him the Empire would have handled the current extragalactic invasion better than the New Republic.

"That's not what the Empire would have done, Commander. What the Empire would have done was build a super-colossal Yuuzhan Vong-killing battle machine. They would have called it the Nova Colossus or the Galaxy Destructor or the Nostril of Palpatine or something equally grandiose. They would have spent billions of credits, employed thousands of contractors and subcontractors, and equipped it with the latest in death-dealing technology. And you know what would have happened? It wouldn't have worked. They'd forget to bolt down a metal plate over an access hatch leading to the main reactors, or some other mistake, and a hotshot enemy pilot would drop a bomb down there and blow the whole thing up. Now that's what the Empire would have done."
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ArchNemo
05/04/21 8:27:02 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Han Solo had a great quote about this in Legends content when an Imperial tells him the Empire would have handled the current extragalactic invasion better than the New Republic.

"That's not what the Empire would have done, Commander. What the Empire would have done was build a super-colossal Yuuzhan Vong-killing battle machine. They would have called it the Nova Colossus or the Galaxy Destructor or the Nostril of Palpatine or something equally grandiose. They would have spent billions of credits, employed thousands of contractors and subcontractors, and equipped it with the latest in death-dealing technology. And you know what would have happened? It wouldn't have worked. They'd forget to bolt down a metal plate over an access hatch leading to the main reactors, or some other mistake, and a hotshot enemy pilot would drop a bomb down there and blow the whole thing up. Now that's what the Empire would have done."


I hate that people act like the reactor hole thing was some huge, comically fatal flaw in the design rather than something that only one of the most powerful force users ever was able to barely hit by relying on the force, a feat which nobody could have expected considering until that point every other Jedi was thought to be dead and anyone force sensitive would have nobody to train them.


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sLaCkEr408___RJ
05/04/21 8:29:58 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
the reactor hole thing was some huge, comically fatal flaw in the design
It was an exhaust port leading directly to the critical weakness. Someone without the force could have hit It with a lucky shot. This makes a huge design flaw but Rogue One revealed it to be intentional to sabotage the weapon.
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ArchNemo
05/04/21 8:36:42 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
It was an exhaust port leading directly to the critical weakness. Someone without the force could have hit It with a lucky shot. This makes a huge design flaw but Rogue One revealed it to be intentional to sabotage the weapon.

It was a flaw but people make it out to be a much bigger deal than it was, to the point where it's become a running joke when in reality it was a desperation ploy that wouldn't have worked if it wasn't for the fact that one of the strongest force users ever happened to be on the mission.

A pinpoint accurate shot after flying through fighters, turrets, and all sorts of other defenses isn't exactly something the comedic flaw its made out to be.

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Darmik
05/04/21 8:41:02 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
It was a flaw but people make it out to be a much bigger deal than it was, to the point where it's become a running joke when in reality it was a desperation ploy that wouldn't have worked if it wasn't for the fact that one of the strongest force users ever happened to be on the mission.

Couldn't any Jedi have potentially made that shot if they believed in the Force and could be a pilot? Or is Star Wars now a thing where you are literally useless if you aren't related to someone from the OT.

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Maeiv
05/04/21 8:41:53 PM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
Abortions for all.

Boo!!

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ArchNemo
05/04/21 8:43:44 PM
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Darmik posted...
Couldn't any Jedi have potentially made that shot if they believed in the Force? Or is Star Wars now a thing where you are literally useless if you aren't related to someone from the OT.

Yeah but there weren't supposed to be any Jedi or anyone force sensitive outside of the Empires knowledge. Even if there were, there wouldn't have been anyone to help them tap into it.

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Mistere Man
05/04/21 8:47:46 PM
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He literally sent a guy to abort young Jedi that is his policy on abortion. They also built a weapon to blow up planets full of very late term infants. So not only is he ok with it, and late term abortions, he even handles them in bulk on a planetary scale.

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Xavier_On_High
05/04/21 9:40:57 PM
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Maeiv posted...
Boo!!

Alright. No abortions for anybody!

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PikachuMaxwell
05/04/21 9:45:19 PM
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His government is authoritarian in nature, that much I know.

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lilORANG
05/04/21 9:45:38 PM
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Palpatine created millions of jobs with the Death Star construction.
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ForsakenHermit
05/04/21 9:46:25 PM
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Fascist.

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Unsugarized_Foo
05/04/21 9:47:26 PM
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Fair share or die

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pogo_rabid
05/04/21 9:54:48 PM
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If the palpatine was evil, why did the core prosper under his rule?

Since when was it a crime to be a sith? Or to defend one's self from traitorous Jedi? Is it wrong to destroy a harbor of the enemy, a planet destroyed yes but for the good of the galaxy. Destroying Alderaan was excessive, but Governor Tarkin was responsible for that, not Palpatine.

Further consider that there are 50 million populated worlds in Star Wars (had to google that). So if the population of the galaxy were that of earth - Alderan would account for 160 people (rounding up). 2019 - probably the most peaceful year in human history saw over 100k war deaths. If the empire prevented even a tiny fraction of war within the galaxy it easily outweighs the destruction of one planet.

Do you remember the peace and prosperity of the old republic? Of course you don't! It was chaos, endless civil war and a nightmarish bureaucracy. Who brought peace? Who brought prosperity? It was the Empire! Who reformed the senate and decentralized power? It was the Emperor!

He wasnt evil. But what he wanted wasnt in line with what some wanted so they rebelled. The empire was bringing order and prosperity to the galaxy but the rebel terrorists preferred the freedom that came with the chaos instead. And because the movies are all from the perspective of the Jedi or the rebels it makes the empire as a whole seem evil. Its all about perspective and spin.

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Joel95
05/04/21 10:00:21 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
If the palpatine was evil, why did the core prosper under his rule?

Since when was it a crime to be a sith? Or to defend one's self from traitorous Jedi? Is it wrong to destroy a harbor of the enemy, a planet destroyed yes but for the good of the galaxy. Destroying Alderaan was excessive, but Governor Tarkin was responsible for that, not Palpatine.

Further consider that there are 50 million populated worlds in Star Wars (had to google that). So if the population of the galaxy were that of earth - Alderan would account for 160 people (rounding up). 2019 - probably the most peaceful year in human history saw over 100k war deaths. If the empire prevented even a tiny fraction of war within the galaxy it easily outweighs the destruction of one planet.

Do you remember the peace and prosperity of the old republic? Of course you don't! It was chaos, endless civil war and a nightmarish bureaucracy. Who brought peace? Who brought prosperity? It was the Empire! Who reformed the senate and decentralized power? It was the Emperor!

He wasnt evil. But what he wanted wasnt in line with what some wanted so they rebelled. The empire was bringing order and prosperity to the galaxy but the rebel terrorists preferred the freedom that came with the chaos instead. And because the movies are all from the perspective of the Jedi or the rebels it makes the empire as a whole seem evil. Its all about perspective and spin.
From my point of view, the jedi are evil!
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monkmith
05/04/21 10:04:12 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
If the palpatine was evil, why did the core prosper under his rule?

Since when was it a crime to be a sith? Or to defend one's self from traitorous Jedi? Is it wrong to destroy a harbor of the enemy, a planet destroyed yes but for the good of the galaxy. Destroying Alderaan was excessive, but Governor Tarkin was responsible for that, not Palpatine.

Further consider that there are 50 million populated worlds in Star Wars (had to google that). So if the population of the galaxy were that of earth - Alderan would account for 160 people (rounding up). 2019 - probably the most peaceful year in human history saw over 100k war deaths. If the empire prevented even a tiny fraction of war within the galaxy it easily outweighs the destruction of one planet.

Do you remember the peace and prosperity of the old republic? Of course you don't! It was chaos, endless civil war and a nightmarish bureaucracy. Who brought peace? Who brought prosperity? It was the Empire! Who reformed the senate and decentralized power? It was the Emperor!

He wasnt evil. But what he wanted wasnt in line with what some wanted so they rebelled. The empire was bringing order and prosperity to the galaxy but the rebel terrorists preferred the freedom that came with the chaos instead. And because the movies are all from the perspective of the Jedi or the rebels it makes the empire as a whole seem evil. Its all about perspective and spin.
so the guy at the top controlling everything also has no control and cant be held responsible for his minions randomly slaughtering civilians/magic choking his employees/blowing up planets?

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pegusus123456
05/04/21 10:04:42 PM
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Isn't there a character in Legends that basically ran the administration side of things? I remember some quote from her talking about how Palpatine was evil for the lulz while she was the one who had to channel that fear in productive ways.

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pogo_rabid
05/04/21 10:07:36 PM
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monkmith posted...
so the guy at the top controlling everything also has no control and cant be held responsible for his minions randomly slaughtering civilians/magic choking his employees/blowing up planets?
I mean, that's how it works IRL unless they gave the order directly. Hell, even if they do, they're not held responsible.

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FortuneCookie
05/04/21 10:12:04 PM
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George Lucas modeled the Emperor after Richard Nixon in the first trilogy and George W. Bush in the prequel trilogy. I think it's safe to say that his stance is in keeping with the GOP's.
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lightwarrior78
05/04/21 10:20:23 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
It was an exhaust port leading directly to the critical weakness. Someone without the force could have hit It with a lucky shot. This makes a huge design flaw but Rogue One revealed it to be intentional to sabotage the weapon.
The thing is it's a hard shot to make, and you have to know it's there. The design of the thing is to house the superlaser such that any force attacking it is just attacking a big outer shell hoping to hit something vital. If you don't know it's there, realize you're trying to find a 2 meter hole on something the google calculator says has 80 million square meters to try and hit.

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monkmith
05/04/21 10:33:23 PM
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lightwarrior78 posted...
The thing is it's a hard shot to make, and you have to know it's there. The design of the thing is to house the superlaser such that any force attacking it is just attacking a big outer shell hoping to hit something vital. If you don't know it's there, realize you're trying to find a 2 meter hole on something the google calculator says has 80 million square meters to try and hit.
the designs for the station have been around for decades. the fact no one noticed the issue and fixed it, or the figured no one would ever get the designs, shows supreme levels of incompetence.

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Questionmarktarius
05/04/21 10:37:28 PM
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monkmith posted...
the designs for the station have been around for decades. the fact no one noticed the issue and fixed it, or the figured no one would ever get the designs, shows supreme levels of incompetence.
"Hey, why does this shaft go directly to the reactor? Is that right?"
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UnfairRepresent
05/05/21 3:52:47 AM
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monkmith posted...
the designs for the station have been around for decades. the fact no one noticed the issue and fixed it, or the figured no one would ever get the designs, shows supreme levels of incompetence.
https://youtu.be/agcRwGDKulw

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AlisLandale
05/05/21 3:57:28 AM
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What would have saved the death star is a few 90 degree angles in the exhaust shaft. lazy ass engineers


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UnfairRepresent
05/05/21 4:11:48 AM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
Alright. No abortions for anybody!
Boohoo!

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Xavier_On_High
05/05/21 8:52:33 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Boohoo!

Okay. Abortions for some. Unlimited power for others!

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Jagr_68
05/05/21 8:54:30 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
We kinda get a glimpse of it in Fallen Order

High taxes to fund huge military projects and Stormtroopers/military robots everywhere

Citizens working double time just for the money to not die due to mass inflation/taxation.

Infastructure falling apart because everything is being pooled into the Empire's military

His fiscal policy is basically the Zennith of the military industrial complex.

The Death Star probably cost the GDP of like 18 entire Solar Systems to create

So in other words, Ronald Reagan.

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wackyteen
05/05/21 8:58:16 AM
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AlisLandale posted...
What would have saved the death star is a few 90 degree angles in the exhaust shaft.

or maybe just a few grates

lazy ass engineers
Pretty sure it wasn't a direct shot that followed a long tube to the core, it just set a chain reaction of explosions that culminated in the core going kaput

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RchHomieQuanChi
05/05/21 9:01:00 AM
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Wasn't the Imperial Army notoriously cheap? Lol

Like that's why the Stormtroopers kinda suck compared to the Clones

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UnfairRepresent
05/05/21 12:00:24 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Wasn't the Imperial Army notoriously cheap? Lol

Like that's why the Stormtroopers kinda suck compared to the Clones
They suck compared to clones because the clones were Jango Fett while the troopers are fat Bob and racist Bill from the bar

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
05/05/21 1:10:21 PM
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wackyteen posted...
Pretty sure it wasn't a direct shot that followed a long tube to the core, it just set a chain reaction of explosions that culminated in the core going kaput
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/05/21 1:15:35 PM
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His plan was build the death star so he was big into people paying their taxes.

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wackyteen
05/05/21 2:05:55 PM
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sLaCkEr408___RJ posted...
https://youtu.be/TOgtj00Rp8s?t=63
Yeah, but the graphic is just simplistic and made on a rebel budget

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RchHomieQuanChi
05/05/21 2:07:27 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
They suck compared to clones because the clones were Jango Fett while the troopers are fat Bob and racist Bill from the bar

I've also heard that the Clones had better weapons and armor than the Stormtroopers as well.

I believe the Stormtrooper armor was more cheaply made because a) most tax money went to fund the Death Star and b) Stormtroopers weren't really meant to see the kind of combat that Clones were, since they were used more as law enforcement and less as soldiers.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/05/21 2:26:35 PM
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Yup, most of the real money went to the death stars, the storm trooper gear and weapons were cheap garbage even compared to the clones AOTC beginner gear.

Storm troopers were expendable as hell, even the clones were phased out for regular people because it was cheaper to recruit then grow clones.

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Gurifisu
05/05/21 2:30:47 PM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
Abortions for all.
And if they're force sensitive, you can even abort them after birth. How considerate of him.

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