Poll of the Day > 19 y/o DAD Shoots Dead Man AFTER he Walks Away..but he claims STAND YOUR GROUND

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19 y/o Trigger Happy Freak, Justin Ray Boersma is facing FIRST DEGREE MURDER charges after a confrontation at a STARBUCKS when 31 y/o Samuel Joseph Rosseti confronted the teen for CUTTING in front of him at a drive thru and then got out of his car and pounded on his window and ripped his door handle off before walking off...that's when the teen took out his gun and SHOT him from behind 3 times and killed him.

It happened in Lake Worth Beach, Florida at noon when Justin cut in front of a truck with his Nissan Versa at a drive thru according to witnesses.

Samuel then got out of his black chevy silverado and walked up to his car and started banging on his car window and ripped off the handle of the door before walking back

Boersma said he was in the car with his infant child and girlfriend as the gf was screaming "We have a baby in the car"

Boersma then armed himself with a gun and got out and SHOT him 3 times at Rosseti's back and then DRIVING AWAY.

He told detecives he was worried for his family's safety and STOOD HIS GROUND.

But after Justin drove away when he shot Rosseti dead, he hit another car along the way and later said he fled so he could call his LAWYER before surrending.

The arrest report Boersma did not see Rosseti with a weapon as deputies and a citizen tried to administer CPR on him and he was transported to St. Mary's Medical Centre but they could not revive him.

Neighboring businesses had surveillance cameras but footage has not been released as police were able to track him from his license plate where they found a handgun found in a plastic bag under the child's car seat

The man driving the car, who was not Justin, pleaded ignorance about the handgun and said it didn't belong to him but the caliber matched the shell casings at the scene.

In total 5 people were in the Sentra including Boersma, his gf and their child. .

A criminal defense attorney, Patrick McKamey believes Boersma may have a case under Florida's notorious stand your ground law who said "I think this is a case actually built for Stand your Ground. It looks like a GREAT cse and i've love to represent him. The defense can reasonably argue, it's unreasonable to think that if he's not in fear for his life or the life of those in the vehicle, why would somebody with an infant in the car go out and start shooting"

Roseti leaves behind a family of his own including a FOSTER SON.

Do you think this kid is Guilty?

Justin - Shooter

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Samuel - Deceased

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https://i.imgur.com/stbVovn.jpg

Where it happened -

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Violence isn't a problem solving tool.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Violence isn't a problem solving tool.

Are you talking about the guy that shot the dude or the dude that got violent 1st?

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Muscles posted...

Are you talking about the guy that shot the dude or the dude that got violent 1st?

Both.

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Instead of cheating at a childrens card game they cheated death. Now their all in the shadow realm.

i think if someone molest your kid or something and tries running they should be shot without you getting in trouble imo

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Knew it was gonna be Florida before even opening the topic...

Also, the fact this murderous LOSER is a dad at 19 just made me recall my shop teacher's epic rant in HS, wherein he complained that he, an early-20's productive member of society, gainfully employed, with no criminal record at all, had to pay outrageous amounts for auto insurance, while as some teenage drug addict and criminal pays less than him b/c he knocked some girl up in HS and was thus a "father" and in a lower insurance premium bracket.
Maybe the way I typed that it sounds bad, but it was pretty entertaining and informative for us about how messed up the world is.

mrduckbear posted...

...according to witnesses.

Oops! He didn't kill all the witnesses, so he could set the narrative exclusively? He might actually go to jail! Rookie SYG mistake right there.

While the teen was definitely assaulted, unless he had reason to believe the guy was going back for a weapon a SYG defense is flimsy at best considering the guy had already walked away. The only thing he did right was turn himself in.

Granted, the way Ducky wrote the story, it's not entirely clear what was going on so... it's possible there was more to it.

streamofthesky posted...

Knew it was gonna be Florida before even opening the topic...

Knew you were going to start with a stupid remark.


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Yes, shooting zombies is self defense even if they're walking away

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Well, Justin was assaulted and his life was at danger and the life of his family. The old guy easily couldve gone to get in his monster truck and crush them with that level of rage or be getting a weapon after he failed to get into the car he was attempting to break into. He definitively shouldnt have escalated to guns and isnt justified in doing so, but you dont know if youre safe here and the road rager had it coming if he thinks pounding on a attempting to break and enter into a car with enough force to pull off the handle is a decent response to waiting an extra 2 minutes to get Starbucks.

But if just driving off was an option then Justin definitely shouldve taken it and that should be taken into consideration. They both suck.

blu posted...

The old guy

A 31 y/o is an "old guy" now? Oo

blu posted...

But if just driving off was an option then Justin definitely shouldve taken it

He was supposedly a passenger. And while SYG has a No Duty to Retreat component (so an ability to escape doesn't necessarily count against the claimant), the confrontation was seemingly over unless the guy talked about going for a weapon so it's hard to justify shooting him in the back then and there.

Conversely, had the shooting happened while he was trying to break into the car, that seems like it would have been a relatively justifiable use of SYG as a legal defense.

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Shooting the dead is not murder and no liberal is gonna change my mind about that

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I'm going to say way to see he video. But it might be a tough case for the SYG law. BUT he also didn't know if the crazy freak that just RIPPED OFF A DOOR HANDLE was going back to his truck to get some other sort of weapon. And he did have a child and others in the car he was fearful of protecting too. So this could really go either way honestly with it being in FL I'll say 55/45 with him getting found not guilty. Also if they overcharge (like they did with George Zimmerman and Casey Anthony) then he might be not guilty. If they go for a lesser charge like manslaughter then I be they could win it easier.

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Decoy77 posted...

And he did have a child and others in the car he was fearful of protecting too. So this could really go either way honestly with it being in FL I'll say 55/45 with him getting found not guilty.

He was so concerned about the safety of the child in his car that he drove like a reckless moron before the confrontation, then even more recklessly once it was safe, in order to flee the crime scene (or, even if you believe him, to call a lawyer, that's not a physical safety issue especially for the child), hitting cars along the way creating impacts that could've harmed the child.
He didn't exhibit any concern for the child, just himself.

Also if they overcharge (like they did with George Zimmerman and Casey Anthony) then he might be not guilty. If they go for a lesser charge like manslaughter then I be they could win it easier.

Those weren't "overcharges" and at most you could say maybe 2nd degree murder instead of 1st degree. The fact they're already going w/ 1st degree probably means they're confident they can back it up in court, though. No fucking way is this less than some degree of murder.

Wow it sounds like everybody involved was a total piece of shit.

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not a good look for Nissan Versa door handles

Yeah if the Hulk ripped the door handle off my car to get at my kids I might be a bit on edge

I'm gonna wait for more info than a duckbear topic can provide

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acesxhigh posted...

not a good look for Nissan Versa door handles

XD

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If he reacted that badly to losing a couple minutes of his life his death probably isnt the worst thing for the world and i can definitely understand fear as a result especially with your family involved but its still not a good enough reason to have shot him in the back especially when its your group that instigated the issue.

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It wasnt a cop that shot him so people are all for it

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Shooting a guy dead isn't good for his child so this twit clearly doesn't care about that. Throw away the key.

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streamofthesky posted...

He was so concerned about the safety of the child in his car that he drove like a reckless moron before the confrontation, then even more recklessly once it was safe, in order to flee the crime scene (or, even if you believe him, to call a lawyer, that's not a physical safety issue especially for the child), hitting cars along the way creating impacts that could've harmed the child.
He didn't exhibit any concern for the child, just himself.

He didn't drive like a reckless moron because he wasn't driving at all, according to a later portion of Ducky's story:

mrduckbear posted...

The man driving the car, who was not Justin, pleaded ignorance about the handgun and said it didn't belong to him but the caliber matched the shell casings at the scene.

mrduckbear posted...

In total 5 people were in the Sentra including Boersma, his gf and their child. .

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Zeus posted...

He didn't drive like a reckless moron because he wasn't driving at all, according to a later portion of Ducky's story:

The way Duckbear framed it makes it unclear. Earlier in the post he said:

mrduckbear posted... It happened in Lake Worth Beach, Florida at noon when Justin cut in front of a truck with his Nissan Versa at a drive thru according to witnesses.

Boersma said he was in the car with his infant child and girlfriend as the gf was screaming "We have a baby in the car"

Boersma then armed himself with a gun and got out and SHOT him 3 times at Rosseti's back and then DRIVING AWAY.

But after Justin drove away when he shot Rosseti dead, he hit another car along the way and later said he fled so he could call his LAWYER before surrending.

I interpreted it as at the time of the shooting, it was only the murderer, his GF, and their kid in the car. Later on when the car was tracked down for the arrest, the other dude was driving it.
Hard to tell from Ducky's post if the driver was the same in each instance or not. Seemed like the friend wasn't there for the crime and thus not the driver.