Poll of the Day > CDC updates recommendations. Fully vaccinated people don't need a mask outdoors

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As long as they arent in a big crowd of people



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Okay, but I'm going to keep wearing a mask while outdoors around people anyway.

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funkyfritter posted...

Okay, but I'm going to keep wearing a mask while outdoors around people anyway.

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funkyfritter posted...

Okay, but I'm going to keep wearing a mask while outdoors around people anyway.

your funeral

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problem with this is a bunch of antivax people are going to go around maskless claiming they're vaccinated

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Oh. That's cool... I like it...
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grimhilde00 posted...

problem with this is a bunch of antivax people are going to go around maskless claiming they're vaccinated

yeah Im not sure if anything can really be done about that unfortunately

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I will still have to wear one at work, and may or may not choose to wear one depending on how busy the day might be, for some time.

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grimhilde00 posted...

problem with this is a bunch of antivax people are going to go around maskless claiming they're vaccinated

Eventually well get to the point where the only people catching COVID are the people who refuse to get vaccinated.

I got the first shot, cant wait to get the second one so I can feel safe

grimhilde00 posted...

problem with this is a bunch of antivax people are going to go around maskless claiming they're vaccinated

Was going to point this out. Short of requiring people who've been vaccinated to wear some sort of identifying bracelet or something that can be seen at a glance (as opposed to things like "vaccine passports" on phones that need to be actively checked), you really won't have a way of distinguishing between people not wearing masks because they're vaccinated versus people not wearing masks because they're assholes.



MICHALECOLE posted...

Eventually well get to the point where the only people catching COVID are the people who refuse to get vaccinated.

The problem there is twofold. First, depending on where people live, they may WANT to get vaccinated, but still can't schedule their way into an appointment because supplies are still limited and there are other people ahead of them in line. So it could still be months before we get to a point of "everyone who wants it has already gotten it".

But second, the people who don't vaccinate effectively become incubators for the disease, giving it a much greater chance to eventually mutate into something that bypasses existing immunities, meaning we get to go through the exact same thing all over again in the very near future.
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Tucker Carlson has bullied the CDC into removing mask mandates, what a hero

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I'm hoping I can stop masking up outdoors at work soon

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grimhilde00 posted...

problem with this is a bunch of antivax people are going to go around maskless claiming they're vaccinated

Fortunately, so long as they're outdoors and not in tight crowds, that's generally not going to be tremendously risky (and, for that matter, most anti-maskers already refuse to wear masks outdoors). The only activities they're actually greenlighting vaccinated people to go maskless for are small outdoor gatherings and eating outdoors at restaurants with friends. Everything else (including everything indoors, which is where mask enforcement is relevant), they either continue to recommend masks, or never recommended them in the first place.

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Masks have always been intended for when the 1.5 meters cannot be guaranteed, as in indoors. Sure, some people wear masks outside, but most just maintain their distance outside.

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Mead posted...

yeah Im not sure if anything can really be done about that unfortunately

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adjl posted...

Fortunately, so long as they're outdoors and not in tight crowds, that's generally not going to be tremendously risky (and, for that matter, most anti-maskers already refuse to wear masks outdoors).

this is true

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Nichtcrawler X posted...

Masks have always been intended for when the 1.5 meters cannot be guaranteed, as in indoors. Sure, some people wear masks outside, but most just maintain their distance outside.

Regions with particularly high case numbers have also been recommending outdoor masking as an added precaution. That's generally one of the first restrictions to go when case numbers start looking better, but when the danger is higher, every layer of protection helps.

blu posted...

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That still won't stop people from making counterfeit ones to lie about being vaccinated, which is a major problem with any idea for vaccine verification.

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funkyfritter posted...

Okay, but I'm going to keep wearing a mask while outdoors around people anyway.

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Entity13 posted...

I will still have to wear one at work, and may or may not choose to wear one depending on how busy the day might be, for some time.

From what i dont seem to understand is that when someone is fully vacinated, why wear the mask at all if you are?

TaKun782 posted...

From what i dont seem to understand is that when someone is fully vacinated, why wear the mask at all if you are?

Being vaccinated doesnt mean you are immune, and once masks are no longer a social expectation indoors, everyone is gonna stop wearing them, vaccinated or not

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Mead posted...

Being vaccinated doesnt mean you are immune, and once masks are no longer a social expectation indoors, everyone is gonna stop wearing them, vaccinated or not

I see...with that being said, im a bit skeptical on the vaccine itself after hearing from people close to me ending up with blood clots.

TaKun782 posted...

I see...with that being said, im a bit skeptical on the vaccine itself after hearing from people close to me ending up with blood clots.

blood clots are serious but I would encourage you to keep looking into official information regarding the vaccines and their safety, because the risk is far lower than complications that can arise from covid

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TaKun782 posted...

I see...with that being said, im a bit skeptical on the vaccine itself after hearing from people close to me ending up with blood clots.

You're about 1000 times more likely to get a blood clot every time you fly in a plane than from the AZ vaccine. It's a risk that's worth considering, but in practice you're very unlikely to encounter the effect and it's going to be far riskier to remain unvaccinated.

TaKun782 posted...

From what i dont seem to understand is that when someone is fully vacinated, why wear the mask at all if you are?

In truth, masks aren't really needed at that point. They help to stamp out the remaining risk of infection (vaccines are never 100% effective) and limit your ability to act as an asymptomatic carrier (it's pretty well established that being vaccinated reduces your risk of transmitting the virus, but it's not completely certain just how significant that reduction is), but the vaccine is doing all of the heavy lifting there and the mask is mostly just an extra precaution.

In practice, however, there's really no practical way to enforce "masks are required unless you're vaccinated." People will happily lie about being vaccinated to avoid having to wear a mask, and even if they don't, those responsible for enforcing the mandate are generally going to be less inclined to confront maskless individuals if there's a plausible excuse for not wearing the mask than if there isn't. Masks continue to be required not because they make a huge difference to vaccinated individuals' safety, but because relaxing those requirements would inevitably lead to increased transmission.

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