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AndyKnow
04/19/21 6:49:47 PM
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https://tinyurl.com/yxwxn2sa

PHOENIX (3TV/CBS 5) -- Governor Doug Ducey announced Monday morning that he has issued an executive order that will ban vaccine passports in Arizona.

The executive order would prevent state and local governments from requiring Arizonans to provide their COVID-19 vaccination status either to enter an area or receive something.

"The residents of our state should not be required by the government to share their private medical information. While we strongly recommend all Arizonans get the COVID-19 vaccine, its not mandated in our state and it never will be," Ducey said in a tweet and in a press release....


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https://tinyurl.com/fbbxwtts

PHOENIX (3TV/CBS 5) Gov. Doug Ducey announced on Monday afternoon that he is rescinding orders that direct schools in Arizona to require face masks due to COVID-19.

The announcement was made in alignment with the latest guidance from the CDC. The guidance allows school districts to decide if masks should be allowed on campus...

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Duncanwii
04/19/21 6:51:49 PM
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If Biden makes them mandatory he wont get any say in the matter.
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Swagger_Dagger
04/19/21 6:53:50 PM
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Good. Im 2/2 vaccinated but mandatory vaccine spaces are stupid

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Dark_SilverX
04/19/21 6:54:39 PM
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good fuck that authoritarian bull shit

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Irony
04/19/21 6:55:11 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
If Biden makes them mandatory he wont get any say in the matter.
Yes he will because it's arguably a state right. He can and should however cut federal aid for states that don't comply.

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Smackems
04/19/21 6:55:29 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
good fuck that authoritarian bull shit


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brestugo
04/19/21 6:55:36 PM
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Other than the Grand Canyon, there's not much reason to go there anyway.

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electricbugs2
04/19/21 6:55:59 PM
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Good. Another reason for me to move to Arizona ASAP.

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Jabodie
04/19/21 6:56:42 PM
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Imo it's best to just stay locked down/social distanced anyway. I feel like these things would be easy to forge.

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unclekoolaid73
04/19/21 6:57:03 PM
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In coming flu shot passports.

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electricbugs2
04/19/21 6:57:41 PM
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brestugo posted...
Other than the Grand Canyon, there's not much reason to go there anyway.
What a horrendous take.

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brestugo
04/19/21 7:04:47 PM
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Millions of vaccinated people will vote with their wallet. Ticketmaster and others are working on reliable vaccine passports. Myself and millions of others will do everything to avoid willfully unmasked and unvaccinated people. Companies will follow the money.

The State Department is already working on plans to include it on the microchip for your regular passport.

Over 180 million Americans and rising are getting the vaccine. They're for the most part going to want to be able to prove it easily.

Your wireless company collects more information about you than a vaccine passport would.

I am sure myself and millions of others will seek to avoid places that can't prove they're not hosting a superspreader event. Business will follow.

An Israeli friend told me "everyone" there has an app (IIRC created by a government contractor) that serves as a vaccine passport. She also laughed how even the simplest, most commonsense measures get politicized by the right here.

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brestugo
04/19/21 7:05:29 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
What a horrendous take.
Been there 10 times. Work, relatives and otherwise.

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AndyKnow
04/19/21 7:05:48 PM
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fuming
04/19/21 7:05:53 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
good fuck that authoritarian bull shit

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brestugo
04/19/21 7:06:52 PM
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unclekoolaid73 posted...
In coming flu shot passports.
Can be put on the same microchip or app. But COVID isn't "just the flu". You know this, right?

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electricbugs2
04/19/21 7:07:10 PM
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brestugo posted...
Been there 10 times. Work, relatives and otherwise.
Okay. Still an awful take.

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Guide
04/19/21 7:07:49 PM
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As long as they don't spread shit to my state, fine. Kill your own.

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brestugo
04/19/21 7:09:22 PM
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AndyKnow posted...
Who gives a fuck about what Israelis think tho?
Other countries are doing it too. I just happened to find out about it from an Israeli. Only Brazil is doing worse than the U.S. We only started getting better than them since January. Before we had 4% of the world's population and nearly 25% of all cases.

We gotta find out what works and do it. We gave idiots a chance to handle COVID.

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creativerealms
04/19/21 7:12:34 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
good fuck that authoritarian bull shit
You realize they already exist. You just never cared before.

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fuming
04/19/21 7:14:39 PM
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creativerealms posted...
You realize they already exist. You just never cared before.

Occam's razor: the simplest explanation is that they have a principled stance against such authoritarian measures and we're either unaware or already against what already exists. You are being an insane conspiracy theorist if you think anything other than this simple explanation.
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Doom_Art
04/19/21 7:18:14 PM
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unclekoolaid73 posted...
In coming flu shot passports.
you joke but this would be great

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brestugo
04/19/21 7:18:17 PM
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metallica846 posted...
I dont want Unvax near me.
Who does? Business is going to cater to the vaccinated and you just can't take people at their word. You are going to have to be able to prove it.

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TheRealDill2000
04/19/21 7:18:21 PM
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Swagger_Dagger posted...
Good. Im 2/2 vaccinated but mandatory vaccine spaces are stupid

Agreed. I'm also vaccined, but I don't like the idea of separating people over a personal choice.
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Hop103
04/19/21 7:20:12 PM
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Good, vaccine passports are tyranny but you should still get vaccinated for the sake of your health.
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brestugo
04/19/21 7:22:04 PM
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TheRealDill2000 posted...
Agreed. I'm also vaccined, but I don't like the idea of separating people over a personal choice.
It's a pandemic, not a personal choice.

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Doom_Art
04/19/21 7:22:04 PM
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brestugo posted...
Who does? Business is going to cater to the vaccinated and you just can't take people at their word. You are going to have to be able to prove it.
I don't want filthy, sickly unvax losers coming up near me while I'm shopping.

Glad businesses are gonna be going ahead with this stuff anyway.

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meralonne
04/19/21 7:25:39 PM
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"Authoritarian": protects the general populace from a potentially lethal virus
"Not authoritarian": GodEmperor Trump

Got it.

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creativerealms
04/19/21 7:26:00 PM
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fuming posted...


Occam's razor: the simplest explanation is that they have a principled stance against such authoritarian measures and we're either unaware or already against what already exists. You are being an insane conspiracy theorist if you think anything other than this simple explanation.
Needing to prove you were vacinated for types of travel like international were already a thing. This isn't some consperacy. Those sorts of things already existed just not at this scale. And people do take things for granted. That's all I was saying. These are things you can figure out by looking into. No one is hiding the truth.

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Doom_Art
04/19/21 7:26:33 PM
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meralonne posted...
"Authoritarian": protects the general populace from a potentially lethal virus
"Not authoritarian": GodEmperor Trump

Got it.
same people who tried overthrowing the government when they lost an election are whining about authoritarianism now lol

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brestugo
04/19/21 7:30:36 PM
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fuming posted...


Occam's razor: the simplest explanation is that they have a principled stance against such authoritarian measures and we're either unaware or already against what already exists. You are being an insane conspiracy theorist if you think anything other than this simple explanation.
Or, people are so caught up in conspiracies, misunderstanding of pathogens and a lack of understanding of human nature (i.e. people lie) that they are willfully avoiding the vaccine and masks, and now a vaccine passport et. al. Have you seen the arguments against the vaccine and the vaccine passport? Check out Facebook for starters.

They don't hold water.

William of Occam would say these people aren't principled opponents of authoritarianism (do we know where they all were January 6th btw?). They just don't know what they're talking about. That is the simplest answer.

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brestugo
04/19/21 7:35:01 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
I don't want filthy, sickly unvax losers coming up near me while I'm shopping.

Glad businesses are gonna be going ahead with this stuff anyway.
I fucking cringe every time I hear a cough these days.

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the_rowan
04/19/21 7:44:58 PM
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He kind of has a point that the government requiring it for public spaces is questionable, as excluding people from government buildings based on this comes at the detriment of free speech. If you are vaccinated, being around unvaccinated people poses minimal risk to you anyway.

The actual reason he gave, that sharing this one detail of your medical history is so invasive that it justifies increased risk to public health, is absolute pants-on-head absurdity.

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Swagger_Dagger
04/19/21 7:53:55 PM
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Vaccinated here. Say NO to mandatory vax institutions. Your vaccine is supposed to be 96% effective. If you want 100% effective, stay inside. Also, do not force people to expose their medical records.

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Prismsblade
04/19/21 8:00:59 PM
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If covid becomes a yearly shot I dont see this lasting long term even, if it is implemented more in the coming months.

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Bio1590
04/19/21 8:01:56 PM
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Lonestar2000
04/19/21 9:45:13 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
SMAL why are you still pretending you moved to Arizona
He'll have to get back to you when he makes a new account.

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DarthAragorn
04/19/21 9:48:45 PM
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Fuck off garbage antivaxers

Can't wait for businesses to start requiring vaccinations

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Dark_SilverX
04/19/21 9:51:53 PM
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Glad the Arizona Governor isn't a swamp creature.

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Rathinor
04/19/21 9:53:17 PM
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Looks like AndyKnow is going to be banned as well
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Tyranthraxus
04/19/21 9:56:10 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
If Biden makes them mandatory he wont get any say in the matter.

A federal vaccination id program would take years to roll out and be completely useless for COVID

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brestugo
04/19/21 9:56:38 PM
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The prevailing interest is a healthy populace. The first line of the Constitution empowers the government to promote the general welfare - which includes a healthy populace.

The willfully unvaccinated cannot and should not dictate public health policy.

Arizona and Florida can ban vaccine passports all they want but the marketplace (businesses and the vaccinated) has already decided which way they're going. Just look at what Ticketmaster is working on.

And it ain't Florida and Arizona's way.

Also, it's funny how the "muh liburteez" small government types want to pass a bullshit law whenever reality is biting them in the ass.

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BudDupree48
04/19/21 9:59:18 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
If Biden makes them mandatory he wont get any say in the matter.

LOL

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Dark_SilverX
04/19/21 10:00:08 PM
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BudDupree48 posted...
LOL
yeah dat was a cute post

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creativerealms
04/19/21 10:24:57 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
Glad the Arizona Governor isn't a swamp creature.
Sure seems like one to me. Seems like he wants to cause needless harm. That sounds like aomething a swamp creature would do.

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Dark_SilverX
04/19/21 10:26:14 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Sure seems like one to me. Seems like he wants to cause needless harm. That sounds like aomething a swamp creature would do.
sounds like he fighting for liberty and freedom

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brestugo
04/19/21 10:45:06 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
sounds like he fighting for liberty and freedom
You guys had your shot and fucked up miserably. We became the #1 COVID nation in the world.

Go back to the MAGA board. Grown folks are working.

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HODL
04/22/21 12:18:37 AM
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Crazy.
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