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Darmik
04/18/21 9:34:47 PM
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This Brute Force game for Xbox;


Has a tie-in novel.
https://www.amazon.com/Brute-Force-Dean-Wesley-Smith/dp/0345458508

I wonder how many people have read it in the last 20 years. This was when tie-in novels weren't that common so clearly Microsoft thought it would be a long lasting franchise. The Brute Force name is now used for a series of military romance novels.

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Vicious_Dios
04/18/21 9:39:33 PM
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Freedom Fighters

Ended it with an ambiguous ending and thr sequel kept getting delayed to ultimately scrapped.

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boshafty
04/18/21 9:40:42 PM
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Anthem.

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Shotgunnova
04/18/21 9:40:47 PM
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ApherosyLove
04/18/21 9:41:19 PM
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When I first got an Xbox, Halo was $20.
Halo with Brute Force attached was $15.

And I read The Fall of Reach before I bought it.

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Solar_Crimson
04/18/21 9:41:32 PM
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'Nuff said.

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Dark_SilverX
04/18/21 9:41:48 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo
04/18/21 9:41:50 PM
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Beyond Good and Evil

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Darmik
04/18/21 9:42:10 PM
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Shotgunnova posted...

Lol marketing back then was so edgey.

At least they didn't try to take on Mario.

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Darmik
04/18/21 9:43:52 PM
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boshafty posted...
Anthem.

Originally, Anthem was a project reported under the codename "Dylan", with BioWare stating they were aiming to create "the Bob Dylan of video games one that would be referenced for years to come".

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boshafty
04/18/21 9:44:02 PM
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Solar_Crimson
04/18/21 9:44:18 PM
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Darmik posted...
Lol marketing back then was so edgey.

At least they didn't try to take on Mario.
I think it helped that all of those games had fallen into their "dork ages" at that time. Mario was still doing pretty good.

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MC_BatCommander
04/18/21 9:47:26 PM
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Universal's "dark universe"

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PatrickMahomes
04/18/21 9:48:03 PM
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Balan Underworld

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boshafty
04/18/21 9:48:36 PM
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Avatar for now.

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Darmik
04/18/21 9:50:16 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
I think it helped that all of those games had fallen into their "dork ages" at that time. Mario was still doing pretty good.

We did have a Naughty Dog exec saying this sort of stuff back then

https://web.archive.org/web/20070205015040/http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=89534

We've moved the entire atmosphere of the game to a higher age group. Gamers like me are still playing. I'm 33 and what I want now is very different from what I wanted ten years ago. Ten years ago you didn't have the choice to play Grand Theft Auto. You played Mario because Mario was what's available.

Well, Pandora's box has opened and younger kids want to play what older kids are playing and older kids are playing Grand Theft Auto.

This isn't about saving a princess; it's about revenge, betrayal. You might think that doesn't sound original, but think of Mario going out for revenge, or Sonic. It's not a character action thing to do.

Rubin: It definitely redoubled my belief that you have to push the genre forward, because when I put that game in and expected Miyamoto greatness, and the characters came out saying: "Bloop! Bloop! Bloop!" I was like, that is 1997. I don't need that in 2003.

Give me a character with a voice and a personality, and more of a cinematic experience. Don't give me Mario from 15 years ago. They just haven't moved on; that's not their focus. I think its very hard for Miyamoto to both run Nintendo - which he does to a certain extent - and get into the game design.

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uwnim
04/18/21 9:50:24 PM
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ApherosyLove posted...
When I first got an Xbox, Halo was $20.
Halo with Brute Force attached was $15.

And I read The Fall of Reach before I bought it.
So like was the game so bad, people would pay to not have it?

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EffectAndCause
04/18/21 9:51:53 PM
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Killzone, even after 4 attempts.
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Doom_Art
04/18/21 9:52:59 PM
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Advent Rising

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Darmik
04/18/21 9:53:13 PM
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I don't think Brute Force was that bad. It just didn't measure up to Halo.

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Dark_SilverX
04/18/21 9:55:31 PM
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AlisLandale
04/18/21 9:55:36 PM
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Too Human, lol.

MC_BatCommander posted...
Universal's "dark universe"

My favorite part about this was that Dracula Untold was supposed to be the start of this. But it flopped so they backpedaled, said it didnt count, then put out the Mummy remake which was even shittier.

(but she was cute tho)

Dark_SilverX posted...

was this supposed to be a franchise? Its a licensed game based on a movie based on an old comic strip. Little Nemo is actually really cool if youre interested in old comic strips. iirc its creator pioneered limited animation.

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Dark_SilverX
04/18/21 9:56:23 PM
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Darmik
04/18/21 9:56:56 PM
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The Dark Universe was just sad. The best thing that came from it is a WayForward game. Van Helsing was also a similar story.

I'm guessing Jupiter Ascending and Mortal Engines were also supposed to be franchises lol

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Njolk
04/18/21 10:05:22 PM
#25:


Yooka Laylee was horribly done imo
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Zikten
04/18/21 10:07:35 PM
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AlisLandale posted...

My favorite part about this was that Dracula Untold was supposed to be the start of this. But it flopped so they backpedaled, said it didnt count, then put out the Mummy remake which was even shittier.

I think the recent Invisible Man was a third attempt to start the universe
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boshafty
04/18/21 10:08:15 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Advent Rising
Man I miss that game.

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boshafty
04/18/21 10:08:48 PM
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Dino Crisis?

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Beyond01
04/18/21 10:09:46 PM
#29:


Primal Rage, lol.

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Maeiv
04/18/21 10:10:34 PM
#30:


Bubsy

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yunalenne10
04/18/21 10:10:46 PM
#31:


Is Yokai Watch doing well?

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Darmik
04/18/21 10:12:01 PM
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yunalenne10 posted...
Is Yokai Watch doing well?

I don't think it is anymore. That's one that launched quite successfully but cratered so hard.

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Zikten
04/18/21 10:12:46 PM
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yunalenne10 posted...
Is Yokai Watch doing well?

I think it is more popular in Japan then outside it. Considering the gimmick of thr monsters is Japanese folklore, I can see why it really only caught on in its home country
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bigtiggie23
04/18/21 10:16:46 PM
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Agents of Mayhem
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FortuneCookie
04/18/21 10:17:12 PM
#35:


Diddy Kong Racing

This one wasn't a financial failure. The sequel was delayed until Microsoft purchased Rare and made a proper sequel impossible.
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Darmik
04/18/21 10:30:00 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Diddy Kong Racing

This one wasn't a financial failure. The sequel was delayed until Microsoft purchased Rare and made a proper sequel impossible.

You can basically list everything from Rare since the Microsoft purchase. They didn't even manage to keep Banjo or Perfect Dark going.

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LostForest
04/18/21 10:36:07 PM
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As much as I love it, ARMS might be an upcoming case.

They had a graphic novel lined up which got scratched, and it's been 4 years since the original with no signs of a sequel.
I'm hopeful that Min Min being in Smash is a sign that they want to keep it going, but I wouldn't hold my breath :\

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Darmik
04/18/21 10:39:04 PM
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In a different type of example I played through Watch Dogs 2 a year ago. In that game you hack into the Ubisoft office and steal footage for an unreleased game. It was an obvious meta attempt to drum up hype for a new IP from Ubisoft. But I didn't recognise the game at all and the game was a few years old.

Turns out the game got cancelled so now there's just a teaser for a game that never happened.

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LordFarquad1312
04/18/21 10:40:54 PM
#39:


Anything Cliffy B has touched in the past 10 years.

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Darmik
04/18/21 10:43:56 PM
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LostForest posted...
As much as I love it, ARMS might be an upcoming case.

They had a graphic novel lined up which got scratched, and it's been 4 years since the original with no signs of a sequel.
I'm hopeful that Min Min being in Smash is a sign that they want to keep it going, but I wouldn't hold my breath :\

Yeah Arms can go either way.

Nintendo used to make sequels to games like it but I'm not sure if they're still like that these days.

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Scorsese2002
04/18/21 10:44:19 PM
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boshafty posted...



Still one of the best FPS
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ledbowman
04/18/21 10:47:22 PM
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Srk700
04/18/21 11:11:08 PM
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Playstation All Stars or whatever that platform fighter that was supposed to rival Smash Bros. was called.
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Oderus Urungus
04/18/21 11:15:26 PM
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Shotgunnova posted...

I dunno about Ty. It has 4 numbered titles plus a HD remake.
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Middle hope
04/18/21 11:17:32 PM
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Jiek_Fafn
04/18/21 11:18:05 PM
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Kingdom of Amalur
Instead the company that made it imploded

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Shotgunnova
04/18/21 11:46:28 PM
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Oderus Urungus posted...
I dunno about Ty. It has 4 numbered titles plus a HD remake.
Huh, you're right. I guess it goes in the Bubsy pile of also-rans.

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Alteres
04/18/21 11:49:33 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
...but, but... this was good.

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JumpstyIe
04/18/21 11:51:52 PM
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brute force was so good <3

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DrizztLink
04/18/21 11:53:29 PM
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Srk700 posted...
Playstation All Stars or whatever that platform fighter that was supposed to rival Smash Bros. was called.
You could only get a ring out with your big Limit Break attack, if I recall. Stupid idea.

Jiek_Fafn posted...
Kingdom of Amalur
Instead the company that made it imploded
The remake is coming, it's still real to me damn it

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