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uwa ej
04/17/21 9:49:56 AM
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A potentially fatal blood-clotting disease is 30 times more common among people who have received the Covid-19 vaccines produced by Moderna and Pfizer than those given the troubled AstraZeneca jab, researchers have found.

https://www.rt.com/news/521313-pvt-bloodclot-mrna-covid-vaccines/
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Fony
04/17/21 9:50:32 AM
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Good thing I'm on blood thinners. Getting my second Moderna shot on Tuesday.

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MachineJaipur
04/17/21 9:51:29 AM
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We're never going to get full vaccination are we

People going to be too piss damn scared of super small chances of bad outcomes
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BlueTigerLion
04/17/21 9:51:55 AM
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Yikes. So this means none of the vaccines are safe.

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Tyranthraxus
04/17/21 9:53:27 AM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
Yikes. So this means none of the vaccines are safe.
There's no vaccine that's 100% safe and never has been but that's irrelevant because your odds of surviving with the vaccine are greater than surviving without it.

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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
04/17/21 9:54:56 AM
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By contrast, some 44.9 cases of PVT per million people were seen among those who had been injected with the mRNA vaccines made by Moderna and Pfizer, the Oxford research, published on Thursday, said.
As someone fully vaccinated from the Moderna product, my care level is at about the same as the prevalence of these blood clots. Zero percent.

Getting sick and tired of all this sensationalism. Anything you put into your body is going to have an adverse effect - the issue is how likely you are to experience it.

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AldousIsDead
04/17/21 9:55:17 AM
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Stay the fuck away from people, Wash your damn hands, wear your damn mask, get your damn shot.

Gtfo with this shit trying to muddy the water.

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Error1355
04/17/21 9:56:38 AM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
Yikes. So this means none of the vaccines are safe.
The vaccines are multitudes more safe than catching Covid.

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Dakimakura
04/17/21 9:56:41 AM
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Hmm perhaps I'll wait.

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COVxy
04/17/21 10:05:29 AM
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Still sounds like the rate is lower than it is in the general population. People freaking out about noise.

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AvantgardeAClue
04/17/21 10:06:37 AM
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AldousIsDead posted...
Stay the fuck away from people, Wash your damn hands, wear your damn mask, get your damn shot.

Gtfo with this shit trying to muddy the water.

This is satire right

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AldousIsDead
04/17/21 10:08:43 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
This is satire right
No. I'm not sure how you figured it was, but I've got a few guesses.

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Error1355
04/17/21 10:14:27 AM
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COVxy posted...
Still sounds like the rate is lower than it is in the general population. People freaking out about noise.
It's so fucking stupid, right?

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MachineJaipur
04/17/21 10:22:16 AM
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Error1355 posted...
It's so fucking stupid, right?
I mean how else are news outlets going to make money and get you to click?
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megamanfreakXD
04/17/21 10:24:27 AM
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IM doc here.

you are more likely to get blood clots when getting covid than getting any if the 3 main vaccinations.

I suggest you get it if you dont want to live on a ventilator forever.

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CADE FOSTER
04/17/21 10:43:10 AM
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Rt ehhh russian propaganda
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AdrianBeterson
04/17/21 10:48:47 AM
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Meanwhile, you are 10X MORE likely to develop PVT if you get COVID. Awfully convenient for you to leave this out, tc.

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DeadlyNinjaBees
04/17/21 10:51:07 AM
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It's still more statistcally likely you'd get hit by lightning than these clots.
Let it be.

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YoungMan
04/17/21 10:52:25 AM
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Can anyone explain how polio/flu/hep etc. diseases took FOREVER to produce vaccines for but they literally made like 3 or 4 for covid in like a year?

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TendoDRM
04/17/21 10:56:40 AM
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Literally rt

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Gobstoppers12
04/17/21 10:56:53 AM
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YoungMan posted...
Can anyone explain how polio/flu/hep etc. diseases took FOREVER to produce vaccines for but they literally made like 3 or 4 for covid in like a year?
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that it's a virus that violently disrupted the modern way of life and it's affecting every country on the planet. More funding, more collaboration, more knowledge about how to create vaccines in general...

It's not that hard to understand.

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CableZL
04/17/21 10:58:53 AM
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YoungMan posted...
Can anyone explain how polio/flu/hep etc. diseases took FOREVER to produce vaccines for but they literally made like 3 or 4 for covid in like a year?

MRNA technology has been in development for decades. It's essentially like building a template and then modifying it a bit to attack a specific virus.

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YoungMan
04/17/21 10:59:59 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that it's a virus that violently disrupted the modern way of life and it's affecting every country on the planet. More funding, more collaboration, more knowledge about how to create vaccines in general...

It's not that hard to understand.
So those diseases I mentioned didn't disrupt life in countries across the world?

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Tyranthraxus
04/17/21 11:00:15 AM
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YoungMan posted...
Can anyone explain how polio/flu/hep etc. diseases took FOREVER to produce vaccines for but they literally made like 3 or 4 for covid in like a year?

Yes. mRNA based vaccine research started 30 years ago. mRNA vaccines had been in the works for Novel Coronavirus 1 (SARS) for 8 years. Turns out Novel Coronavirus 1 was similar enough to Novel Coronavirus 2 (COVID 19) that most of the work already done was applicable.

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markconigliaro
04/17/21 11:01:07 AM
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YoungMan posted...
Can anyone explain how polio/flu/hep etc. diseases took FOREVER to produce vaccines for but they literally made like 3 or 4 for covid in like a year?

mRNA has been studied for 20-30 years now. The nice thing about mRNA is its basically plug and play. It has a base template, so you just grab a protein out of covid, put it in the vaccine, and your done.

Plus what Gobstopper said, it's much easier to get funding and approvals since this is kind of a big deal.

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Error1355
04/17/21 11:01:33 AM
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YoungMan posted...
Can anyone explain how polio/flu/hep etc. diseases took FOREVER to produce vaccines for but they literally made like 3 or 4 for covid in like a year?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine

The use of RNA vaccines goes back to the 1990s.

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Gobstoppers12
04/17/21 11:06:10 AM
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YoungMan posted...
So those diseases I mentioned didn't disrupt life in countries across the world?
You're intentionally missing the point, so this discussion is over. I'm not gonna waste my time.

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_BIueMonk
04/17/21 11:08:33 AM
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Why are you guys responding to him. Look at his other topics. He's a troll

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BudDupree48
04/17/21 11:11:00 AM
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The CDC can shut the fuck up now. Maybe they shouldn't have instructed us to vaccinated if they are gonna keep throwing all this shit out there. They were wrong from the start. Hard to trust them for anything or our people in charge

And they continue being wrong

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MrFingers07
04/17/21 11:11:00 AM
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Idk much about vaccines but iirc past vaccines took forever to make because there were barely any people participating in the trials, with people not participating it took alot longer for scientists to gather data. And it took even longer if the virus wasn't all that contagious. For Covid 19 vaccines, there was a lot of interest from people to join their trials and the virus is extremely contagious so it made it super easy for scientists to gather data.

Also like I said, idk much about vaccines but I read that stuff like HIV is extremely volatile, like it changes alot quicker than Covid19 or something like that. Makes it hard for people to even develop one for hiv. But I could be wrong on that one, hopefully someone with more knowledge can educate us on this tbh

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Gobstoppers12
04/17/21 11:13:58 AM
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BudDupree48 posted...
The CDC can shut the fuck up now. Maybe they shouldn't have instructed us to vaccinated
Please maintain silence.

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crazygamer21
04/17/21 11:14:21 AM
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imagine buying an old account on a dying video game message board just to shitpost russian propaganda

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marthsheretoo
04/17/21 11:14:37 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
You're intentionally missing the point, so this discussion is over. I'm not gonna waste my time.

Damn, when Gobby shuts you down for trolling, you know you trolled too hard.

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Dark_SilverX
04/17/21 11:14:57 AM
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Fauci said it fine so get dat jab.

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BudDupree48
04/17/21 11:16:07 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Please maintain silence.

And I did get vaccinated just so you know. I've felt different ever since. Moderna

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YoungMan
04/17/21 11:18:27 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
You're intentionally missing the point, so this discussion is over. I'm not gonna waste my time.
And you're intentionally a troll lmao

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ThyCorndog
04/17/21 11:20:41 AM
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AdrianBeterson posted...


Meanwhile, you are 10X MORE likely to develop PVT if you get COVID. Awfully convenient for you to leave this out, tc.
by the looks of it, the flu increases your chance of blood clots more than the covid19 vaccine does as well

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spikethedevil
04/17/21 11:22:32 AM
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Error1355 posted...
It's so fucking stupid, right?

You could close this anti vax scare mongaring topic @Error1355

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Patty_Fleur
04/17/21 11:24:26 AM
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I had a life threatening blood clot in 2019 and have been on eliquis ever since.

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Mr_Rian
04/17/21 11:25:15 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
You could close this anti vax scare mongaring topic @Error1355
And maybe ask the admin to ban Russia Today?

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Hadenough
04/17/21 11:25:41 AM
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My parents just got this needle and Im so worried because on one hand we cant trust the health system or government, and on the other there is so much fucking misinformation out there that it is exhausting trying to wade through the bullshit
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spikethedevil
04/17/21 11:26:28 AM
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Hadenough posted...
My parents just got this needle and Im so worried because on one hand we cant trust the health system or government, and on the other there is so much fucking misinformation out there that it is exhausting trying to wade through the bullshit

Add this topic to the BS.


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BudDupree48
04/17/21 11:26:41 AM
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Hadenough posted...
My parents just got this needle and Im so worried because on one hand we cant trust the health system or government, and on the other there is so much fucking misinformation out there that it is exhausting trying to wade through the bullshit

Pretty much. Noone to trust anymore

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davyheinz
04/17/21 11:40:29 AM
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Just got the second for Moderna and I feel like a winner.

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MachineJaipur
04/17/21 11:40:36 AM
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BudDupree48 posted...
Pretty much. Noone to trust anymore
Government has a vested interest in keeping the population happy and downplaying things

Media has a vested interest in blowing up every story out of proportion because it gets them clicks and views.

You have to be able to sort the bs
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kingdrake2
04/17/21 11:51:46 AM
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ThyCorndog posted...
by the looks of it, the flu increases your chance of blood clots more than the covid19 vaccine does as well


right. 2x isn't as bad as 10x.

hate when the government stops a good thing. just unleash the floodgates so everyone can get vaccinated with all vaccine available in the US.
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Link165
04/17/21 12:21:34 PM
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YoungMan posted...
Can anyone explain how polio/flu/hep etc. diseases took FOREVER to produce vaccines for but they literally made like 3 or 4 for covid in like a year?

Can anyone explain how it took us 100s of years as a species to figure out how to build an airplane but it took us literally 12 years to go from putting someone in space to walking on the moon?

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UnholyMudcrab
04/17/21 12:26:07 PM
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Amy Chao
04/17/21 12:29:44 PM
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I just got this recently. Gulp :(
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spikethedevil
04/17/21 12:54:17 PM
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Amy Chao posted...
I just got this recently. Gulp :(

Youll be fine, dont fall for the anti vax fear mongering.

@Error1355 or any other mod why is this topic still open?

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