Current Events > Psilocybin as good at reducing symptoms of depression as conventional treatment

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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56745139.amp

Seems like a "no shit" moment.
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im really impressed at how quickly psychedelics are gaining mainstream acceptance

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i wonder if it treats schizophrenia

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Yeah, it's like receiving 6 months of therapy within a few hours. In a just universe it would be explored as a more viable alternative to popping pills daily for years on end.

They are being used more and more for cluster headaches too. Fingers crossed because the mushrooms seem to actually help the headaches.

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Giant_Aspirin posted...

im really impressed at how quickly psychedelics are gaining mainstream acceptance

Well all the hippies are old and have real jobs now, so of course they accept them.

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...

They are being used more and more for cluster headaches too. Fingers crossed because the mushrooms seem to actually help the headaches.

I still got clusters even after doing mushrooms. My doctor gave me CC blockers because I knew what times of the year my attacks would start so I could use them as preventative and I never got them again. Been since around 2016 that I had my last cluster
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WaterLink posted...

I still got clusters even after doing mushrooms. My doctor gave me CC blockers because I knew what times of the year my attacks would start so I could use them as preventative and I never got them again. Been since around 2016 that I had my last cluster

Ah crap. That sucks. They put me on Verapimil or however it's spelled on my last cycle. I was cycle free for probably 7 years. The cycle stopped after a couple months so I stopped the drug. I probably should still be taking it daily but I'm wondering if I'm growing out of the clusters.

Not to turn this topic into a cluster headache topic or anything, sorry TC.

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All good. I know people that microdose for cluster headaches and they said it does wonders. same with anxiety. Shrooms, lsd and ket have a ton of medicinal purposes.
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Most if not all mass shooters were on traditional antidepressants, which alter your brain chemistry. Yet society never questions these pills.

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Giant_Aspirin posted...

im really impressed at how quickly psychedelics are gaining mainstream acceptance

I'm afraid my brain is already too fucked up and doing hallucinogens would terrify me

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Orlando_Jordan posted...

Most if not all mass shooters were on traditional antidepressants, which alter your brain chemistry. Yet society never questions these pills.

Oh yes, blame the pills, don't look at the people taking them.

Moron.

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Anyway, I'd be down to try microdosing but I don't think I'd do well with a full-blown hallucinogenic dose.

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Orlando_Jordan posted...

Most if not all mass shooters were on traditional antidepressants, which alter your brain chemistry. Yet society never questions these pills.

Given just how many people are on anti depressants and how many of them aren't shitty human beings who go and murder others, the cause seems likely to be with the individual.

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I've never done any psychedelics, they kinda scare me but I don't know enough about it. Even people I talked to who advocate for them make it sound like sometimes they can alter you in a bad way. Not like in the exaggerated "permanently tripping" sense but I guess having a weird mood/outlook.

Is that bullshit? Maybe I'm misinterpreting things? People taking too much, or using laced stuff? I would be totally on board with this kind of stuff if it is regulated to keep us safe, unless it turns out there are just inherent risks with it that can't be controlled.

Didn't Anderson Cooper do shrooms on 60 Minutes lol

Funkydog posted...

Given just how many people are on anti depressants and how many of them aren't shitty human beings who go and murder others, the cause seems likely to be with the individual.

Given just how many people get concussions and aren't shitty human being who go and murder others, the cause seems likely to be with the individual.

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59 trial participants, underpowered study, yeah this doesn't mean shit

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Reactionary prohibition of drugs has probably done a lot of damage to our society, and making it difficult-to-impossible to study possible medical applications of stuff like psilocybin is definitely part of that.
And I sincerely doubt any of them are as potentially harmful as opiates anyway.

ElatedVenusaur posted...

Reactionary prohibition of drugs has probably done a lot of damage to our society

probably prevented a lot of it too

Kaiganeer posted...

probably prevented a lot of it too

I sincerely doubt that that damage would even come close to the damage that which mass incarceration has caused.

im three weeks into prozac. Not sure I really feel different. Maybe less socially anxious at least. They week 4-6 is when full benefits can be observed

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